Kris,

Don't we come here with the tacit understanding that any words used here cannot 
capture the ineffable? I think you know exactly what I mean, you rascal. 


Mike






________________________________
 From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 20:11
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
 

  
Self appears/is born. No-self doesn't appear/is unborn. Realize these are but 
aspects of mind, no difference.

KG


On 9/2/2012 12:05 PM, mike brown wrote:

  
>Kris,
>
>
>Very good! You must have given that a lot of thought ; )
>
>
>>Self can be found nowhere else
>
>
>Of course. Self/Buddha Nature/Awareness is unborn (and therefore never dies) 
>and so is ever present regardless of what we are thinking/doing. But suffering 
>arises when we think there is an independent 'I' having those thoughts. That 
>we have this Realisation is the difference. How this Realisation manifests is 
>unimportant. For some it will be sudden for others gradual. But you're correct 
>that Self alwaysis. 
>
>
>Mke
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 15:42
>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
> 
>
>  
>On 9/2/2012 7:05 AM, mike brown wrote:
>> But if you do find yourself thinking,
                          just come back gently to the breath.
>
>A tri-ku for you:
>
>With each rise and fall
>The breath is grasped and released
>Each, a birth and death
>
>Immersed in thinking
>Self can be found nowhere else
>Always lost in thought
>
>Mind, a stream of thought
>Following, or flowing by
>The way, like water
>
>
>

 

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