Kris,

I laugh a lot. Can't remember the last time i cried tho. I've experienced the 
odd tear now and again, but a full blown cry...? Honestly can't remember.

Mike



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 From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, 3 September 2012, 1:21
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
 

  
Perhaps. Perhaps not. Think what you will. You have no other choice, nor do I. 
Any understaning of this, "tacit" or otherwise, a delusion. No problem, as long 
as you and I can still laugh and cry.

KG

On 9/2/2012 5:35 PM, mike brown wrote:

  
>Kris,
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>Don't we come here with the tacit understanding that any words used here 
>cannot capture the ineffable? I think you know exactly what I mean, you 
>rascal. 
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>Mike
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>________________________________
> From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 20:11
>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
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>Self appears/is born. No-self doesn't appear/is unborn. Realize these are but 
>aspects of mind, no difference.
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>KG
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>On 9/2/2012 12:05 PM, mike brown wrote:
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>>Kris,
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>>Very good! You must have given that a lot of thought ; )
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>>>Self can be found nowhere else
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>>Of course. Self/Buddha Nature/Awareness is unborn (and therefore never dies) 
>>and so is ever present regardless of what we are thinking/doing. But 
>>suffering arises when we think there is an independent 'I' having those 
>>thoughts. That we have this Realisation is the difference. How this 
>>Realisation manifests is unimportant. For some it will be sudden for others 
>>gradual. But you're correct that Self alwaysis. 
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>>Mke
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>>________________________________
>> From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected] 
>>Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 15:42
>>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
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>>On 9/2/2012 7:05 AM, mike brown wrote:
>>> But if you do find
                                          yourself thinking, just come
                                          back gently to the breath.
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>>A tri-ku for you:
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>>With each rise and fall
>>The breath is grasped and
                                          released
>>Each, a birth and death
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>>Immersed in thinking
>>Self can be found nowhere else
>>Always lost in thought
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>>Mind, a stream of thought
>>Following, or flowing by
>>The way, like water
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