Edgar, My mental model is in my discriminating, dualistic mind. Your mental model is in my discriminating, dualistic mind.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > Yes, it is clear that Bill! is just an opinion, a mental model... > > But in whose mind? > > Edgar > > > > On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:14 AM, billsmart wrote: > > > Kris, > > > > 'My opinion' is my default 'mental model', or I guess I could call it > > 'Bill!'s mental model'. It is the default model I use to communicate with > > others. Is it a better (closer to Reality) 'mental model' than others? I > > couldn't claim that, but I can say it's the most comfortable for me. > > > > I posted many posts ago about having and using different 'tools in my tool > > bag'. Another way to say this is that I believe I can communicate using > > different 'mental models' - like the scientific 'mental model' with Edgar, > > and the Christian 'mental model' with Merle, and the Buddhist 'mental > > model' which those on the site who prefer that. > > > > I know I'm just simulating the other 'mental models', like a MAC OS > > simulating a WIN OS to be able to run WIN-specific applications, but I > > think that's better than trying to force everyone to communicate using my > > default 'mental model' all the time. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote: > > > > > > On 9/11/2012 9:23 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > > Pain is real. Suffering (in the way the term is used in Buddhism) is > > > > not real. It's a 'mental model' (aka 'illusion') which is the result > > > > of attachments which are in turn dependent upon the creation of the > > > > dualistic concept of 'self'. > > > > > > > > That's IMO anyway... > > > > > > Is the opinion 'real'? > > > > > > If so, then 'suffering' as a 'mental mode' is real in the same way. If > > > not, there's no suffering and no opinions of it. > > > > > > Either way, these appear. Only the form of expression differs. > > > Real/unreal is just more thinking. No problem. Really. ;) > > > > > > KG > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
