Merle, I've got my problems too, but I must admit all-in-all I'm pretty healthy. Nothing I could really complain about.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  bill..66..woh...we are both same generation,,baby boomers... yea right..you > get bladder problems and see how you feel!..merle >  > Merle, > > I am also 66! > > I'm about to give you some of my definitions of terms and they're pretty > 'tough-love' definitions so be warned... > > Pain is NOT suffering. Pain is pain. Suffering is feeling sorry for > yourself (your self) because perhaps you're in pain and that does not meet up > with your expectations and disappoints you. > > You do not have to suffer. > > The best example I know of this is a 3-legged dog. I'm sure you've seen many > of them. They aren't suffering because (I presume) they don't have a strong > 'mental model' of 'self'. They don't feel sorry for themselves. They don't > compare themselves to other dogs. They just make do with what they've got. > I've seen dogs with only 2 legs and they don't act any differently than those > with 4. You could be a little condescending and say 'they don't know any > better' - when actually you should be just saying 'they don't know' - and > good for them. > > Contrast that with a human who has lost a leg. Many such humans will suffer. > They'll wonder 'why me'? 'What did I do to deserve this?' And be envious > of full-bodied humans who can do more and have more than they. Why? Because > they DO have a strong 'mental model' of 'self' and have expectations of what > life SHOULD be like, and do compare themselves with others. Their life is > not like others (the majority) and this disappoints them so they suffer. > > Zazen can help... > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > àrubbish bill..i am suffering as i type..bladder/ urinary tract > > infection..chronic now..anti/bi's not working..ultrasound 2 morrow..great > > discomfort and some pain... get real bill...give me a break..my spirit is > > young and free but the body at 66 tells another story..and like it or lump > > it bill..i am attached to this frame..called body..and it's in PAIN...merle > > à> > Merle, > > > > IMO... > > > > Life without attachments is very simplistic. It's the ultimate in > > simplicity. It's Just THIS! It's all the attachments you accumulate that > > make life complex and generate suffering. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > Ãâàbill..life is not that simplistic... merle > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > Merle, > > > > > > I mean your post talked about how you suffer here and suffer there. To > > > me that indicates you're very good at suffering. > > > > > > If you think you're not good at it, or if you want to stop suffering then > > > just stop by drop all attachments. That's Buddhism 101. > > > > > > One way to do that is zazen. There are lots of other ways. > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàwhat do you mean quit?....merle > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > It sounds like you're very good at it to me. If you're not good at it, > > > > why don't you quit? > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâài dunno about you folk out there but i am no good > > > > > at suffering... firstly my own and secondly witnessing > > > > > others...human, animal or vegetable...ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > suffering is no way to live > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > Merle > > > > > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
