I don't think many zen newbies come here seeking basic advice. Generally people 
with some thing to say about Zen practice are the only ones to post. 

So even we all we with cups full of tea fall silent, there is just silence. 
There are no monks outside in the snow. 

I guess most people start zen in a more personal context than a big listserv, 
which seems correct. I read some books, arranged for an intro meeting at the 
local Zendo and then sat alone until I could be still for 25 minutes then I 
went to the Zendo and with the sangha. 

Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
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On Oct 27, 2012, at 9:51, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> I like to say the Equinox is "when"; and, the Solstice is "when".
> 
> Zen is not when.
> 
> There is no "24/7" in the Dharma, nor in the Great Way, the Tao.
> 
> Neither is there love, or hate.
> 
> (with Maezumi Roshi, I'd say there is Appreciation).
> 
> I'd appreciate it if you co-moderators would be a lot more moderate.
> 
> Toward each other, I mean.  Our subject would be better served.  The dust-ups 
> just "up" the post-count, and must really clutter the in-boxes of those who 
> get email from the Group.  Think of all the newcomers who can't jump in with 
> practice-questions or chatting because they perceive that a couple of 
> co-dependent slashers at a time (it could be anyone) are constantly on each 
> others' case, even if some of the fuss is tongue-in-cheek and playful.
> 
> The playground ought to be big enough to tacitly welcome free participation 
> from all comers, without a noisy distraction at all hours from the central 
> ring under the bigtop.
> 
> Well, so, some concern for folks joining us; and fond hopes.
> 
> --Joe 
> 
> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>> 
>> You haven't done it when you are writing this post. You may do it while 
>> sitting, but you can't do it 24/7.
>> 
>> Zen is 24/7, not just when sitting..
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
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