Edgar, I only sit for 20 mins at a time. I don't know where the 22 mins came from. If I typed that then it was a typo.
I take a 5-min break in between sessions when I sit multiple sessions. Sometimes I only sit 1 session but usually 2, and sometimes 3. I intend to sit daily but usually only manage it 3-5 days a week. Sometimes I substitute bowing or chanting for a 20-min session. I don't know how many hours I sit a week on average. I'd estimate 4 x 40 = 160 mins or about 2-1/2 hours a week. Why is this important to you? It's not to me. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > Previously you told us you sat only 3 times a week for 2 sessions of 22 > minutes apiece which totals less than 3 hours a week... > > Edgar > > > > On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > Joe, Edgar and Everyone, > > > > I sit (zazen) almost every day. I actually intend to sit every day but some > > days that schedule is interrupted. When I sit it is usually in the morning > > shortly after I wake and take a shower but BEFORE breakfast or any > > stimulants like a cup of tea. When I sit I sit for 20 minutes and then get > > up and walk around about 5 minutes to stretch my legs. I like to repeat > > this two more times for a total of 3 sessions of sitting. Sometimes I > > substitute bowing or chanting for sitting or for one of the sessions. > > Sometimes I only sit 1 or 2 sessions, and sometimes like I said not at all. > > > > What are your practices vis-a-vis zazen or some other form of meditation? > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > Edgar, > > > > > > When I sit, I sit in the world of forms. Granted, I stay with my method > > > of meditation. Except when I don't. And then I come back to it. This is > > > Practice, and keeping and putting-in-a-foundation. It's not to be > > > neglected, and neither has it ever been deprecated by the Old Masters, > > > nor even our quite young, recent, master teachers. > > > > > > To my mind, Zazen is the indispensable 1/13th part of Zen practice. > > > > > > We all know too how little Bill! needs to sit, because he revealed it > > > here. Howdy!, and kudos, Bill!(!). > > > > > > So, Edgar: Start a point, please, because ...so far you have none. > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > PS If you were ever really one of their students, you'd have done more > > > than *hear* about sitting from those traditional Zen masters you don't > > > name. And you would definitely have heard about it, and not "almost > > > never". Neither Dogen nor Hongzi mentioned it? Well, it's in their > > > writings: As contemporaries, they were both 13th Century C.E. figures; > > > their vocalizations have faded. > > > > > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Joe and Bill, > > > > > > > > It is true that sitting is almost never mentioned in the words of the > > > > traditional Zen masters. Enlightenment Zen experience is almost always > > > > the result of actions IN THE WORLD OF FORMS and consists of seeing the > > > > true nature of the world of forms. > > > > > > > > You two are totally outside of and go against Zen tradition by the > > > > exclusive emphasis you put on sitting.... > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
