Joe,

That's what every Zen teacher in the history of Zen has said - and you think 
it's backwards!

Edgar



On May 1, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Joe wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> Bass-ackwards.
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> > 
> > That's what I keep saying too, but full enlightenment only comes after a 
> > lot of intellectual understanding. It is not the understanding that is 
> > enlightenment but that gets you to the point you can have the experience...
> 
> 

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