Edgar, No again. I'm getting worried now. Are you lulling me to sleep so you can sneak up and hit me with a shoe?
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill, > > I agree. Do you disagree with my agreement? > > Edgar > > > > On May 2, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > Merle, > > > > Joe is correct here, but just to clarify a little... > > > > 'Suffering' is not physical pain. 'Suffering' caused by physical pain would > > be feeling sorry for yourself because you can't do something you want to do > > because your knees hurt. 'Suffering' as used in Buddhism is very much akin > > to 'disappointment' and carries with it an aura of attachment. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > Yet, this is what the Buddha discovered, and what the Buddha taught. > > > > > > I think it's true that pain is guaranteed in life. It starts at birth. > > > But Agony is optional. The difference is stark, and very, very real. > > > > > > I don't blame you, questioning what the Buddha taught. The only way to > > > convince yourself of the truth of it is to practice. I bet you never > > > thought you'd ever be able to stay on a bicycle the first time you tried > > > to ride one! And I bet you got the hang of it, and can make it go down > > > the road pretty straight. > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > my understanding is suffering cannot be eliminated..how the hell can > > > > that come about..the very nature of life is suffering... > > > > point to me who does not what does not..be it animal mineral or > > > > vegetable.. > > > > the notion of happy happy is absurd.. > > > > we can come to terms with suffering > > > > we can embrace and realise that compassion and eternal universal love > > > > can lift us from suffering and soar us high above the treetops to the > > > > heavens above just as the eagle flies we too can fly.. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
