Bill,

Au contraire. I'm trying to wake you out of your slumber!

Edgar



On May 2, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> No again. I'm getting worried now. Are you lulling me to sleep so you can 
> sneak up and hit me with a shoe?
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > 
> > I agree. Do you disagree with my agreement?
> > 
> > Edgar
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On May 2, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > 
> > > Merle,
> > > 
> > > Joe is correct here, but just to clarify a little...
> > > 
> > > 'Suffering' is not physical pain. 'Suffering' caused by physical pain 
> > > would be feeling sorry for yourself because you can't do something you 
> > > want to do because your knees hurt. 'Suffering' as used in Buddhism is 
> > > very much akin to 'disappointment' and carries with it an aura of 
> > > attachment.
> > > 
> > > ...Bill!
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Merle,
> > > > 
> > > > Yet, this is what the Buddha discovered, and what the Buddha taught.
> > > > 
> > > > I think it's true that pain is guaranteed in life. It starts at birth. 
> > > > But Agony is optional. The difference is stark, and very, very real.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't blame you, questioning what the Buddha taught. The only way to 
> > > > convince yourself of the truth of it is to practice. I bet you never 
> > > > thought you'd ever be able to stay on a bicycle the first time you 
> > > > tried to ride one! And I bet you got the hang of it, and can make it go 
> > > > down the road pretty straight.
> > > > 
> > > > --Joe
> > > > 
> > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > my understanding is suffering cannot be eliminated..how the hell can 
> > > > > that come about..the very nature of life is suffering... 
> > > > > point to me who does not what does not..be it animal mineral or 
> > > > > vegetable..
> > > > > the notion of happy happy is absurd..
> > > > > we can come to terms with suffering
> > > > > we can embrace and realise that compassion and eternal universal love 
> > > > > can lift us from suffering and soar us high above the treetops to the 
> > > > > heavens above just as the eagle flies we too can fly..
> > > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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