Merle,
Sorry, but that's the God-awful truth.  Buddhism is all about the relief
of suffering.
Here is what Wikipedia has to say about Buddhism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism>

Buddhism is a religion <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion> 
indigenous to the Indian subcontinent
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent>  that encompasses a
variety of traditions, beliefs and practices largely based on teachings
attributed to Siddhartha Gautama
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha> , who is commonly known as
the Buddha, meaning "the awakened one". The Buddha lived and taught in
the eastern part of the Indian subcontinent
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent>  sometime between the
6th and 4th centuries BCE.[1]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism#cite_note-1>  He is recognized by
Buddhists as an awakened <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi>  or
enlightened teacher who shared his insights to help sentient beings
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentient_beings_(Buddhism)>  end their
suffering (dukkha <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukkha> ) through the
elimination of ignorance (avidyā
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avidy%C4%81_(Buddhism)> ) by way of
understanding and the seeing of dependent origination
(pratītyasamutpāda
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prat%C4%ABtyasamutp%C4%81da> ) and the
elimination of craving (taṇhā
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%E1%B9%87h%C4%81> ), and thus the
attainment of the cessation of all suffering, known as the sublime state
of nirvāņa <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana> .[2]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism#cite_note-2>
I've highlighted the parts to which I want to draw your attention that
pertain to the question at hand.
And before someone jumps all over me on this I want to point out that
this is BUDDHISM, not zen.
...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester  wrote:
>
>
>
> Â  rubbish..you can dissolve into the now..
>
> life is suffering..nothing to do with attachments..
>
> like to see you bill when you have a physical aliment..
>
> sure you can whisk it away for a moment or two..try mental
suffering...that cannot be dissolvedÂ
>
> the promise of buddhism is release from suffering..
>
> right..maybe
>
> yes it is a way of viewing suffering however you cannot escape it..
>
> rather you accept it
>
> so how come buddhist monks are the first to set fire to themselves
when they see injustices done?
>
> Â that would be mega suffering and don't tell me they don't suffer
as the flames engulf them
>
> have you ever truly suffered bill?.. or seen loved ones suffering?
>
> Â as you eat your stir fried chicken do you not realise the
suffering that was impose on this creature that you might live and live
to suffer?
>
> acceptance is the key word in my books
>
> Â acceptance, Â compassion and universal love
>
> Â if that is not buddhism then well i'll be blown over by a stick
>
> Â merle
>
>
> Â
> Merle,
>
> Suffering can be entirely eliminated and William is right that this is
the promise of Buddhism.
>
> This is Buddhism 101:
>
> - Life is suffering
> - Suffering is caused by attachments
> - Attachments are caused by/enabled by identification with your self
> - The self is illusory
>
> So, like a big house of cards when you dissolve the illusion of self
you take away the anchor for attachments causing them to fall away which
eliminates suffering.
>
> And how do you come to recognize the self as illusory?  My suggestion
is you do zazen (zen meditation) staring with counting your breaths. 
When you stop your intellect from producing illusions (and most
especially the illusion of self) you experience Buddha Nature.
>
> And then Voila!  Just This!
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester merlewiitpom@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > my understanding is suffering cannot be eliminated..how the hell can
that come about..the very nature of life is suffering...ÂÂ
> > point to me who does not what does not..be it animal mineral or
vegetable..
> > the notion of happy happy is absurd..
> > we can come to terms with suffering
> >  we can embrace and realise that compassion and eternal
universal love can lift us from suffering and soar us high above the
treetops to the heavens above just as the eagle flies we too can fly..
> >
> > merle
> >
> >  some strawberries are sour i have noted in my many years of
eating strawberries...this i refer to as the "chop suey" of life...sweet
and sour...
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > And yet you are the one who started this conversation.  It
has been my understanding that the primary message of Buddhism
was addressing suffering.  What it is and how to stop it. The
Buddha was not searching or teaching ways to survive crises but to end
suffering.  I can agree that survivability might be enhanced by
being fully in the moment but I see no certainty of it. In my readings
of Zen the moment of Death is often addressed with an awareness and
often a smile. The strawberry is so sweet. suey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Joe desert_woodworker@
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 4:27:50 PM
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Someone Else's Opinion on What is Real and What
is Not...
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > Hi, William,
> >
> > The crisis is and was the one you raised earlier, about killing some
beast or other. Thought and pondering at that scene would be
inexcusable, while acting in accord with need, informed by your intimacy
and full presence and awareness of conditions, would give you an opening
to hunt another day.
> >
> > Coming back to practice, practice enables habits to drop, so we can
be present fully. You can still use what you've learned, but you won't
be bound by it. That is all.
> >
> > And that is the point. I won't engage in useless historicizing, not
in a Zen discussion forum, anyway. If we're not already clear about how
practice works, then the next step is clear: practice. There may be
pointers on it here at the Forum. A real teacher face to face is the
best teacher though, many here would agree.
> >
> > --Joe
> >
> > > Email  wrote:
> > >
> > > You've modified your original position from a statement of our
genetic
> >  inheritance to surviving a crisis. That quite a bit different.
However from your current position are you saying that the people who
died from the bombings in Boston were "burdened and unable to act
spontaneously" while those who survived were "acting spontaneously and
were unburdened"? Or is there some other type if crisis?
> > > If two people, one who was unburdened and acting spontaneously and
had never encountered a tiger in the wild and the other who hunted
tigers daily, were to suddenly be faced with one, who would survive this
crisis?
> >
>

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