Thanks Vivek.
"like Sophocles" could end up meaning that Sophocles indeed sold coke and chips. Besides being anachronistic, it would add a new twist to the idea of a Greek tragedy.
Comparing a a group with something singular is clumsy per se i guess but i cannot help it. Show me a way out. The poem below (thanks to ur very welcome suggestions) is redone. Comments??
Commercial Speech
>
>Billboard poets
>with their words for sale
>like a Sophocles
>selling chips and coke;
>
>A successful poem
>is one that can sell
>We now have Art
>for Ad's sake as well!
>
>The title of our poem
>is just a label
>on an expensive
>pair of shoes.
>
> Ron (07-11-1995)
Vivek Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Billboard poets
>with their words for sale
>like a Sophocles
>selling chips and coke;
>
>A successful poem
>is one that can sell
>We now have Art
>for Ad's sake as well!
>
>The title of our poem
>is just a label
>on an expensive
>pair of shoes.
>
> Ron (07-11-1995)
Vivek Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I like this poem, it swings. I would make it "like Sophocles" to
better match up the plurality of poets and the singularity of
Sophocles. Shouldn't it be "Ads" (line 3, stanza 2) and "for Ads'
sake as well"?
"with commerce in their words" is a bit awkward, perhaps the thought
should be articulated a little more clearly. Are you saying that the
commerce is embedded in the very words themselves? That's cynical;
aren't the words embedded in the commerce?
Publishing is only about helping things come into view. The real
validation of a poem is only if people are moved enough to pass it on
to others or, further, to try and memorize it for themselves. The
lasting virtue of poetry today is that it doesn't make money. Being
at the margins of capitalism gives it a freedom that other forms don't
necessarily have.
V.
> Commercial Speech
>
> Billboard poets
> with commerce in their words
> A Sophocles
> selling chips and coke;
>
> A successful poem
> is one that can sell
> We now have Ad
> for Ad's sake well!
>
> The title of our poem
> is just a label
> on an expensive
> pair of shoes.
>
> Ron (07-11-1995)
>
> ymursawsib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Publishing is also about interaction; humans being social animals
> need to share their thoughts, experiences etc. with each other.
>
> Poetry can be immensely profitable, but that poetry is not
> necessarily high brow. I am talking about the greeting card market.
> Who do you think writes all those mushy/funny/ gyani/provocative
> rhymed and sometimes unrhymed verses? These people are the
> copywriters of the poetry world, they don't get by-lines but they
> get paid.
>
>
> Here is a birthday poem by me. I wrote it on the birth of a friend's
> baby boy, got a print out, pasted it on a card and gave it to her. I
> didn't earn money, just my friend's appreciation, which meant a lot
> to me. :-)Rumjhum
>
> ON THE COMING OF A BABY
>
>
> In a vast celestial kitchen
> Beyond our grasp and far away
> The Maker pondered over his staff
> While in his hand lay, a bit of clay
>
> Stardust of dreams, the bluebird's song
> A cherub's sweet dimpled laugh
> A pinch of mischief, wisdom's nectar
> And more, He stirred in with his staff
>
> Then gently He set the mould
> With infinite care He poured
> And softly blew in the breath
> Of life. Meanwhile love's fire roaredÂ…
>
> Down below in a mother's heart
> A father's and a sister's too
> The Maker he saw it all and smiled
> For they were your own, He knew!
>
> Yes you __(baby's name)________, you!! Made in the image
> Of that butter thieving bundle of joy!
> Marvelous indeed are the ways of The Maker who
> Brought forth from the weft of a dream, you dear boy!
>
>
>
>
>
> > Publishing, as a concept, is not just about eliminating
> anonymity from ur creativity but has a substantial commercial
> content too. And i daresay poetry as a commercial venture is not the
> best of profit making industry. Devoid of profit - publishing loses
> its meaning. Therefore, poetry is essentially a non-commercial
> creative venture - a bit like theatre or documentary film making -
> or perhaps like free porn sites all of us search for (just joking!).
> >
> > All poets end up writing at least one birthday poem. Are any of
> us sharing it here in this group. Again the best of birthday poems
> has been penned by Dylan Thomas and it was Temp's poem and reference
> to the October weather which reminded me of this great oeuvre as it
> had a bit of that tone. Our AB Vajpayee is another for Birthday
> poems.
> >
> > Ron
> >
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