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  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: BMW CCA Raffle
  Re: BMW CCA Raffle
  Re: BMW CCA Raffle
  Re: BMW CCA Raffle
  BMW CCA Raffle
  Torquemeister tool
  Re: <misc> make sure the car is level
  Re: <misc> make sure the car is level
  Altitude effects on cold starting: Should I lower my fuel pressure?
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:45:15 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yes.  This is what merging at the lane closure would prevent since there is
no lane to run.  Preventing the bad behavior outweighs the benefits of some
other perhaps better theory that permits or even encourages the bad
behavior.
Gary Derian

>
> But, IME, the people that "run the gauntlet" to merge at the last second
cause more problems
> pissing people off and result in more stop-and-go then the people who tend
to merge safely and
> cleanly at their first good opportunity and everyone keeps moving at a
reasonable speed.  Clearly,
> YMMV based on merge technique...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rich
>


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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:13:53 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Personally at neck down points or merge lanes I try to do the zipper effect
and let in at least one car. I've tried to teach my kids the same. It just
seems to be most efficient when I can do it while me and the other driver
can continue in motion. What ruins it are those a-holes that then race to
the back bumper of the driver for whom I creating the space. Many times
there is sufficient room behind me but they've just got to get one more car
ahead. Dunderheads.

-Kevin



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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:05:39 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 10:13:53AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Many times there is sufficient room behind me but they've just got to
> get one more car ahead. Dunderheads.

 Amen!  Preach it!  Someone else suggested revoking licenses for
stopping at the end of the on ramp.  This "one more car ahead at any
cost" behaviour should qualify as well.  I like passing people almost as
much as y'all, but when the road is clearly full, RELAX!
 When I'm the last car in a line heading for an exit with a quarter mile 
of empty space behind me, and some chowderhead comes zooming up beside 
and jams himself into the space in front of me, I fume.

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:11:15 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Jul 8, 2004, at 11:05 AM, John Bolhuis wrote:
>  When I'm the last car in a line heading for an exit with a quarter 
> mile
> of empty space behind me, and some chowderhead comes zooming up beside
> and jams himself into the space in front of me, I fume.

Really?  I move over.

- Mark, big-ass truck


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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:53:27 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BMW CCA Raffle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 07:13 AM 7/8/04, Kevin Kelly talked about:

>Have the winners of the BMW CCA raffle been announced?
>
>If anyone has the list of names post it to the list.

Funny how this comes up every year, and the answer is always the same: The 
list of winners will be made available once all the winners are notified. 
So if you haven't been notified, then you didn't win.

Jim Bassett - unemployed, no money for raffle tickets


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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:13:19 -0700
From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BMW CCA Raffle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>At 07:13 AM 7/8/04, Kevin Kelly talked about:
>
>>Have the winners of the BMW CCA raffle been announced?
>>
>>If anyone has the list of names post it to the list.
>
>Funny how this comes up every year, and the answer is always the 
>same: The list of winners will be made available once all the 
>winners are notified. So if you haven't been notified, then you 
>didn't win.

I don't think anyone will be called until the folks from National get 
back to Greenville. If someone in attendance knew someone personally 
don't you think they would make some attempt to contact the winner? 
So I guess no one won on th elist won yet.

I already mentioned that Wilt Turner won the first car raffled off.

...steven
Sunny Pasadena

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:00:07 -0700
From: Ping Gordo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BMW CCA Raffle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Yup! Bill did win one and last night someone from Texas won and another  
one from somewhere in the midwest or something like that won too. But I  
didn't write down the name 'coz it wasn't mine! I sulked all night  
long. Oh well. ;-) Next year maybe. Oh wait, there's still two more  
tonight and five more Friday at the banquet. But I'm home now, so I  
can't tell you who anymore. But you Texans, somebody out there won a  
new M3.

Pingger

On Thursday, July 8, 2004, at 11:13 AM, Steven Schlossman wrote:

>> At 07:13 AM 7/8/04, Kevin Kelly talked about:
>>
>>> Have the winners of the BMW CCA raffle been announced?
>>>
>>> If anyone has the list of names post it to the list.
>>
>> Funny how this comes up every year, and the answer is always the  
>> same: The list of winners will be made available once all the winners  
>> are notified. So if you haven't been notified, then you didn't win.
>
> I don't think anyone will be called until the folks from National get  
> back to Greenville. If someone in attendance knew someone personally  
> don't you think they would make some attempt to contact the winner? So  
> I guess no one won on th elist won yet.
>
> I already mentioned that Wilt Turner won the first car raffled off.
>
> ...steven
> Sunny Pasadena
> Search the  
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________ 
> ___
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW  
> CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>


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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:22:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BMW CCA Raffle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Never mind the darn raffle!  How was the drifting demonstration?  Anyone
try their hand at drifting?  Did anyone get a ride in the McLaren F1 GT
car around the track?  Just to be able to hear the S70/2 in that car fly
around the oval portion of California Speedway even if you didn't get a
ride in it ... 

--Andre
(some 100 miles north of Oktoberfest, but blocked by work)


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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:23:08 -0500
From: "Harmon Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "bmwuucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BMW CCA Raffle
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From attending 22 Oktoberfests (but not this year) and 
13 years on the Club Board, here is how it works:

Best guess is that 10 +/- cars will be given away this week.
Usually one or two per night starting Tuesday or Wednesday,
but holding back four to six for the awards banquet Friday
night.  If you're in attendance at Oktoberfest you hear who 
has won one, but it is not made public right away.

As soon as she returns to Greenville, Wynne Smith will start
to contact the winners by phone/email/whatever.  Not until 
all winners have been contacted will the list of winners be
posted on the Club's website. Then everyone will know.

Harmon Fischer
BMW CCA # 1806
Jefferson, LA


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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:47:05 -0500
From: "tom dotzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Torquemeister tool
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Anybody have any experience with the torquemeister tool?  See:
http://www.racecarsupply.com/html/torqu_meister.html
Tom Dotzler


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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:55:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <misc> make sure the car is level
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I know I am late on this thread but I know a trick that may interest a lot of you 
automatic users.

Jack your car up and put it on stands, securely and level, at least the night before 
you drain the tranny.  Do not start the car after it is up in the air until you empty 
and refil it properly.

What this does is allows a larger portion of the fluid in the toque converter to leak 
back into the pan for draining, thus less dirty fluid left in the tranny when you are 
done.

it works.

David in Richmond, VA

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jul 6, 2004 1:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC]  <misc> make sure the car is level

On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 08:19:40PM -0500, Jenny Morgan wrote:
> The tranny pan would be an excellent choice to determine level.
> 
> Jenny Morgan
> Milwaukee, WI

Thank you Jenny!  I found it to be a quart and a half low.  Nice to know 
it works fine over a wide range of fill volumes...


> On Jul 5, 2004, at 8:12 PM, John Bolhuis wrote:
> 
> > surface on which to park, where would you position the level to try to
> > get a good reading?  It looked like the lower level of the transmission

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 
Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]


__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:12:22 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <misc> make sure the car is level
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 01:55:24PM -0400, Maverick wrote:
> I know I am late on this thread but I know a trick that may interest a
> lot of you automatic users.
> 
> Jack your car up and put it on stands, securely and level, at least
> the night before you drain the tranny.  Do not start the car after it
> is up in the air until you empty and refil it properly.
> 
> What this does is allows a larger portion of the fluid in the toque
> converter to leak back into the pan for draining, thus less dirty
> fluid left in the tranny when you are done.
> 
> it works.

 After doing the filter & pan refill, I pulled the lines off the tranny
cooler up front and pushed new fluid in the return line while watching
the output for fresh fluid.  You get even more old stuff out that way!
(I also blew the few ounces of old oil out of the cooler with an air 
hose)

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:06:21 -0700
From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Altitude effects on cold starting: Should I lower my fuel pressure?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What effects will 6000 feet altitude have on my OBDII 97 //M3?  First 
warm restart yesterday the motor cranked abnormally long before firing.  
First cold start this morning fired sluggishly, clearly too rich with a 
low idle speed.
I'm currently running 4 bar fuel pressure to feed 24# injectors and an 
oversize hfm tube.  That runs fine at sea level.
     But the cold starting awkwardness here at Lake Tahoe has me concerned.
The ECU is already at its limits how lean it can make things with my 
setup in cruising and starting modes.  I get a CE on cruise control 
because at minimum injector pulse that's still richer than the ECU 
wants.  WOT is *np*.
    I don't want to get stuck with the car not starting in the morning, 
but I don't want to risk an overlean situation, so what effects would 
lowering the fuel pressure have on the starting modes in the ECU?
Tia,
Barry


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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:20:58 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There was a comedian (Gallagher, Carlin,???) that suggested that we
"good drivers" should be equipped with paint ball guns. Then when we saw
someone doing something stupid we blast their car with the paint gun. When
the cops see a car with 3 paint gun blasts they pull them over and give them
a ticket for being stupid.   That flaw in the scheme is that the idiots would
find a way to get paint ball guns and blast US with them.

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black

At 12:43 PM 07/08/2004 -0400, Robinson, Lee wrote:
>OK, the problem is that in this kind of case merging isn't the only issue.
>All the brain dead morons who have to stare at the guy changing a flat on
>the other side of the freeway, or try to do accident reconstruction from
>their driver's seat, or figure out when the road work is to be done,
>whatever.
>
>My original post was about construction zones, as they usually have signs
>"Right Lane Closed 1 Mi. ahead."  I saw many cases when the idiot I was
>talking about trying to block the free lane was doing it with a mile of open
>road ahead.
>
>If there are 2 lanes in one direction & they have ALWAYS narrowed down, or
>the construction has been there a while, there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for a
>bottleneck.  Non-constants like accidents are a different story.
>
>Now, the big problem causing the bottleneck is that 99% of idiots don't look
>any farther ahead than their hood embleme & use the brake to merge rather
>than the gas.  I've driven in so many places, and a constant is that most
>people feel like driving is some menial activity you do while doing
>something else.  Yes, I drive all the way to the front of a pile-up before
>merging.  Yes, it benefits me greatly.  However, I plan my opening a long
>time before I actually change lanes & can't remember the last time I impeded
>the flow of traffic by driving all the way past a mess to the exit ramp, end
>of lane, construction, etc.  If I do that, I don't see what all the fuss is
>about.....just because you didn't take a chance & get to the front of the
>line why are you mad at me?  I can see if I drove up to the front, stopped,
>pushed my way in/ran somebody off the road, etc.
>
>Fact of the matter is that this phenomenon of having one lane backed up for
>miles sometimes with other lanes wide open is the result of a whole lot of
>bad driving skills, not all related to merging.  If everyone drove & merged
>properly driving normally up to the point where the merge is to occur, would
>be the best.  I've always thought that the people who drive down an
>acceleration ramp & stop at the end should have their liscences revoked
>until they passed a real driving test (& maybe an IQ test).  The people who
>stop on the interstate to let them in should never be allowed to sit in the
>front seat of an automobile again.  Unfortuantely, this has become basically
>accepted behavoir.......
>
>I feel sorry for the lane-blocking self-cops, as the car I'm in doesn't have
>"RENTAL CAR--WITH DAMAGE WAIVER" painted on it.....  ;)
>
>Lee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Dorffer
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 23:33
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: Gary Derian
> > Subject: Re: [UUC] S$$$ happens
> >
> >
> > I must be missing something then.  Sure, the length of the
> > backup may be
> > shorter (say 1,000 cars backed up in two lanes from the merge point
> > backwards, 500 per lane compared to 1,000 cars in one line as
> > the extreme
> > example), but I don't see how it would shorten (or lengthen
> > the transit
> > time) if the slowest speed at the merge point/bottle neck is,
> > say, 5 mph.
> > It will still take the same amount of time for the 1,000 cars to pass
> > through that point.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > >
> > > When all the road is used, the length of the backup is
> > shorter.  This will
> > > shorten the transit time.
> > > Gary Derian
> > >
> > > >
> > > > But right there is the issue, the speed of the open lanes
> > at the slowest
> > > point is the problem.
> > > > It doesn't matter if you merge at the point of closure or if
> > > you all line
> > > up orderly at the first
> > > > opportunity to form in the open lanes, the slowest speed
> > through the
> > > closed section is always the
> > > > limiting factor.  Merging at the point of closure is no faster
> > > overall for
> > > the mass than merging
> > > > immediately if the flow is only X through the closed lanes.
> > > >
> > > > People merging at the last minute only benefit themselves
> > at the expense
> > > of everyone else.
> >
> > Search the
> > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > ____________
> > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of
> > the BMW CCA.
> >
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> >
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Dennis Wynne wrote:
> Someone had a web page about driving a constant speed rather than stopping
> and starting - I tried to Google it up, but didn't find it (yet). 

You might be thinking of this website:

http://www.amasci.com/amateur/traffic/traffic1.html

--Andre



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