The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 387 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: dumb question for E38 Re: dumb question for E38 Re: dumb question for E38 Re: 5HP30 Torque Converter Re: <E36> Schrick Aluminum Intake Treehouse Unrestrictor - Was: Schrick Aluminum Intake Re: wheel bolt chart Re: dumb question for E38 Re: Battery question for E38
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 00:44:00 -0600 From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Andy Messer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: dumb question for E38 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Twin batts on V12 started in 99 I think...Mine is single. HUGE, but single. Paul A. Garnier Houston, TX 281-827-0725 www.fastnetworking.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Messer Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 You didn't say, but from your post I assume you have a V8, not V12 (which requires two batteries and I assume different rating). I've had great luck with an Interstate MTP-93. It has 850CCA, which is 50 shy of the factory 900 IIRC. I've had it in my 740 for over a year, no problems. It is the correct length, so no adapters needed. There should be no shortage of Interstate battery retailers in your area. My town (fairly small) has at least 4 I can think of off the top of my head. If they don't have one, they should be able to get one within a day or two. Andy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Jenkins Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:41 PM To: 'Martin Bullen' Cc: 'BMW Digest' Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 AutoZone says they don't carry one nor did Sears, Interstate, or BatteryPlus online inquiries find one. Making voice calls now.other sources recommended? ________________________________________ From: Martin Bullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: BMW Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 The stock size battery (group 93?) is often not readily available anywhere other than the dealer. However, others report good luck and much reduced cost by installing a Group 49 battery, which should fit using an original built-in but alternative hold-down mounting point. See www.e38.org for more information. Martin Bullen '95 M3 '97 Z3 2.8 '01 740i Sport On Feb 3, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Alex Cagann wrote: Batteries are cheap. You don't need to go to a shop to get one. Take your battery out, go to your local parts store (Autozone, Advanced Auto, O'Reilly...whatever). Get a new battery and put it in yourself. Price for your battery should be between $40 and $80. Bring your old battery with you...you get about $10 for it, and you don't' have to worry about getting rid of it. Alex Thanks, I peeled back the stickers but no plugs visible. Gonna try and pry off what 'could' be cover plates but if no luck, guess I am off to the shop although even then, I'd rather duck the mech. fees & part markup and order/install myself if possible. Thanks again! Rich Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:33:04 -0600 From: "Rich Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'BMW Digest'" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: dumb question for E38 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks to everyone again. I placed an order at Firestone for the Interstate MTP-93. Will be here tomorrow! Appreciate the help! -----Original Message----- From: Paul Garnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:44 AM To: 'Andy Messer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: RE: [UUC] dumb question for E38 Twin batts on V12 started in 99 I think...Mine is single. HUGE, but single. Paul A. Garnier Houston, TX 281-827-0725 www.fastnetworking.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Messer Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 You didn't say, but from your post I assume you have a V8, not V12 (which requires two batteries and I assume different rating). I've had great luck with an Interstate MTP-93. It has 850CCA, which is 50 shy of the factory 900 IIRC. I've had it in my 740 for over a year, no problems. It is the correct length, so no adapters needed. There should be no shortage of Interstate battery retailers in your area. My town (fairly small) has at least 4 I can think of off the top of my head. If they don't have one, they should be able to get one within a day or two. Andy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Jenkins Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:41 PM To: 'Martin Bullen' Cc: 'BMW Digest' Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 AutoZone says they don't carry one nor did Sears, Interstate, or BatteryPlus online inquiries find one. Making voice calls now.other sources recommended? ________________________________________ From: Martin Bullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: BMW Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 The stock size battery (group 93?) is often not readily available anywhere other than the dealer. However, others report good luck and much reduced cost by installing a Group 49 battery, which should fit using an original built-in but alternative hold-down mounting point. See www.e38.org for more information. Martin Bullen '95 M3 '97 Z3 2.8 '01 740i Sport On Feb 3, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Alex Cagann wrote: Batteries are cheap. You don't need to go to a shop to get one. Take your battery out, go to your local parts store (Autozone, Advanced Auto, O'Reilly...whatever). Get a new battery and put it in yourself. Price for your battery should be between $40 and $80. Bring your old battery with you...you get about $10 for it, and you don't' have to worry about getting rid of it. Alex Thanks, I peeled back the stickers but no plugs visible. Gonna try and pry off what 'could' be cover plates but if no luck, guess I am off to the shop although even then, I'd rather duck the mech. fees & part markup and order/install myself if possible. Thanks again! Rich Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:35:37 -0600 From: "Rich Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'BMW Digest'" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: dumb question for E38 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks to everyone again. After several more dead-end calls, I was finally able to place an order at Firestone for the Interstate MTP-93 at $99.99. Will be here tomorrow! Appreciate the help! Will report if any issues. Regards; Rich -----Original Message----- From: Paul Garnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:44 AM To: 'Andy Messer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: RE: [UUC] dumb question for E38 Twin batts on V12 started in 99 I think...Mine is single. HUGE, but single. Paul A. Garnier Houston, TX 281-827-0725 www.fastnetworking.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Messer Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 You didn't say, but from your post I assume you have a V8, not V12 (which requires two batteries and I assume different rating). I've had great luck with an Interstate MTP-93. It has 850CCA, which is 50 shy of the factory 900 IIRC. I've had it in my 740 for over a year, no problems. It is the correct length, so no adapters needed. There should be no shortage of Interstate battery retailers in your area. My town (fairly small) has at least 4 I can think of off the top of my head. If they don't have one, they should be able to get one within a day or two. Andy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Jenkins Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:41 PM To: 'Martin Bullen' Cc: 'BMW Digest' Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 AutoZone says they don't carry one nor did Sears, Interstate, or BatteryPlus online inquiries find one. Making voice calls now.other sources recommended? ________________________________________ From: Martin Bullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: BMW Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 The stock size battery (group 93?) is often not readily available anywhere other than the dealer. However, others report good luck and much reduced cost by installing a Group 49 battery, which should fit using an original built-in but alternative hold-down mounting point. See www.e38.org for more information. Martin Bullen '95 M3 '97 Z3 2.8 '01 740i Sport On Feb 3, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Alex Cagann wrote: Batteries are cheap. You don't need to go to a shop to get one. Take your battery out, go to your local parts store (Autozone, Advanced Auto, O'Reilly...whatever). Get a new battery and put it in yourself. Price for your battery should be between $40 and $80. Bring your old battery with you...you get about $10 for it, and you don't' have to worry about getting rid of it. Alex Thanks, I peeled back the stickers but no plugs visible. Gonna try and pry off what 'could' be cover plates but if no luck, guess I am off to the shop although even then, I'd rather duck the mech. fees & part markup and order/install myself if possible. Thanks again! Rich Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 01:49:54 -0600 From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'BMW Digest'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: 5HP30 Torque Converter Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PHENOMENAL! Thanks, Chris that was great! I just finished reinstalling the trans, whew what a job. I think the engine R&R on the e36 was easier! I wasn't able to stage the parts as the torque converter is different just as you mentioned. I wonder if BMW doesn't change the part number on the transmission just due to the fact that it uses a different torque converter. The job itself was not a walk in the park, the dealer forgot to order me a pair of the white o-rings to seal the solenoid connector so I had to find a substitute in the shop and "convince" it to go into the hole (grrr). The old (original) ones split immediately when I tried to remove them and were already disintegrating in situ. You guys with 80+K miles on your transmissions take heed and be afraid, BE VERY AFRAID. Realoem.com list for the transmission is $5200 and the torque converter is $2100. The reality is more down to earth with an indie shop probably going to tag you around $3k+ for a soft kit and torque converter rebuild. It's still a good tag that will revalue the car in your budget, for better or worse. This is not a job to do on the floor, this is probably not even a DIY, unless you have access to a GOOD shop and a PROFESSIONAL mechanics toolbox. Even then, the torque converter is a dedicated transmission/machine shop job that is easy enough to mess up. (Like they did mine, (grrr x2). I got a screaming deal on the 71141, so I went with that. You were right about all the part numbers, sticker colors, et al. Obviously, you've "been there and done that" several times! =]. I am humbled by the research you've done on the oils. You have confirmed most of what I have suspected since I started researching the 5HP30. When I first researched the specs on Mobil1 ATF 15 years ago, I couldn't think of a transmission or hydraulic system that it wouldn't be appropriate for. I still haven't found a transmission that hasn't been improved by installing it. That said I went with the OEM oil because a very good friend donated his labor to R&R this monster and I did not want to risk wasting his time by guessing at the appropriate oil. I went OE with everything this time, but the guy who rebuilt the torque converter let everyone down. The fellow at the shop that rebuilt the torque converter said the it referenced back to other high end luxury cars using the 5HP30 such as an Aston Martin DB9 and a Bentley Arnage (probably to justify his $100 premium over a standard 740 torque converter rebuild). Then, when questioned, proceeds to explain to me that the only difference between my torque converter and that of a 740 using the 5HP30, is that of a higher stall speed for the 740, created by using a different set of turbine vanes which are readily available and/or modified. Well, now the trans is back in the car, shifts better than ever, the check engine light is still on, (I need to get on the scanner Monday), and now it's got a mild knocking coming from the bell-housing that is not affecting performance nor getting any quieter. I'm going to take it back to the torque converter rebuilder to get his take on it. I am not looking forward to the R&R on this beast again. Primarily due to the amount of heavy lifting, and the cost of the fluid. If it comes down again, it's going to be another full flush due to my wanting to replace that substituted o-ring on the solenoid connector and the torque converter getting re-rebuilt. (grr x3) I'm going to stick with the 71141 out of respect for Luis's time. Personally, I wouldn't mind some redline D4, but I have had a spot of bad luck with Redline (MTL, admittedly) in a Mitsubishi transaxle ('92 Galant VR4), which are notoriously fussy (Which I cured with some GM Synchromesh (Man, that stuff is thin!) As far as the flamers, screw 'em. Everyone's a critic. Either contribute or shut-up, I say. I lurk more than most, so I feel very fortunate to have you all as a resource. THANKS big time! Paul A. Garnier Houston, TX 281-827-0725 www.fastnetworking.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher P. Koch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:09 PM To: BMW Digest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 5HP30 Torque Converter Dear Paul, The 740iL only used the 5HP30 automatic through 01/1997 production and the part number for that torque converter is 24-40-1-422-699. The 750iL used the 5HP30 with torque converter p/n 24-40-1-422-017. So they are indeed different. Your automatic probably has a green serial number label which means that it uses full synthetic ESSO LT 71141 ATF (black label transmissions use semi-synthetic Shell LA 2634 which is a blend+ of mineral and synthetic ATF). The problem with both of these fluids is that they are frightfully expensive, between $12 and $22 per liter! Shell purchased Pennzoil and Quaker State on 10/01/2002. One of the results of that purchase is Shell upgraded Pennzoil's and Quaker State's "Multi-Vehicle ATF" to be direct substitutes of Shell LA 2634. Both of these fluids are semi-synthetic blends just like Shell LA 2634 and I understand they cost somewhere around $4 a quart. Shell also made it compatible with Esso LT 71141 which means that it is not directly substitutable because it isn't a full-synthetic, however, as long as you change the fluid more often (30K intervals), it will work just fine. See: http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/quakerstateatf.pdf Valvoline's Mercon V ATF is also substitutable for both Shell LA 2634 and Esso LT 71141. Like Shell's "Multi-Vehicle ATF" above, it is a semi-synthetic blend. See http://www.taligentx.com/passat/maintenance/atfchange/Valvoline-MERCON-V-Let ter.pdf Redline states that their D4 ATF is substitutable for both Shell LA 2634 and Esso LT 71141. Redline is a full synthetic ATF like AMSOIL's Universal Synthetic ATF and Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF (neither of the later two companies will officially state their products are LT 71141 substitutes). Whichever fluid you finally decide to use, I recommend fluid and filter changes every 30K miles and not to exceed 60K miles. I use a thin bead of silicone RTF on both sides of the pan gasket (read more at http://www.bmwseven.com/e38trans.html). I am doing a job right now wherein I am using Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF in a black label 1994 740iL 5HP30 automatic with 80K chassis miles. This is strictly experimental and doesn't mean that I endorse this swap. By the way, Paul, I have been flamed many times over the past 12 years for my level of "gentility" that I maintain in my e-Mail because I actually use salutations and insist on location. Sometimes my grammar is nearly correct. I think that the end result of all this is we have a first rate Digest full of good questions and thoughtful answers. I hope that our answers save you lots of time and money and that eventually you become a regular contributor based on your experiences. Yours, Chris Koch Buffalo, New York http://www.Willz.us ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: e38 750iL torque converter From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:00:27 -0600 Hello! <-(new to list!) I recently purchased a 97 750iL, having come from a string of 3 series, a few of them M's, I am surprised and delighted at the similarities AND differences between these model lines. VIVE le Difference Of course with a 10 year old 750 coupled with 150k miles, I am chasing a few technical issues, and I have a question for the gruppe. Attempting to extinguish the CE light thrown by code 111 (lock-up clutch - too much slip), I am rebuilding the torque converter, resealing the transmission and a full fluid flush with OE filter KIT. I would like to stage the parts so I can R&R the trans in one session. So Finally the question. Is the 750iL torque converter from the 5HP30 the SAME as the torque converter from the 740IL that uses the same transmission? Thanks all!, Great list, btw.no flaming, posturing, or kill stories! LOL Paul A. Garnier Houston, TX 281-827-0725 www.fastnetworking.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:56:48 -0800 From: bbarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jon Siccardi - Treehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: <E36> Schrick Aluminum Intake Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An inviting package. For those of use with opened up intake tracts already, how much for the TB alone, or converting a stock one on exchange? Barry Jon Siccardi - Treehouse wrote: > Here's an option we put together that is a little more affordable. > http://www.treehouseracing.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=5&category_id=2&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=31 > > > or http://www.tiny.cc/LIrZH > if the first link is too long. > This kit redefines the term "big bore" throttle body > Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:14:11 -0600 From: "Jon Siccardi - Treehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Treehouse Unrestrictor - Was: Schrick Aluminum Intake Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well.. as you can imagine, it's not as simple as that, it comes with brackets, adapters, connectors, hoses, a special throttle cable and mount, etc etc... The Silicone hose is only a small part of the "magic" here, and would not influence the price significantly to remove it from the kit. (this is funny considering competitors sell a silicone tube only claiming big results) Call me at the shop on Monday and we can work out a kit for you. Thanks, Jon Treehouse Unrestrictor Intake System - http://www.tiny.cc/LIrZH ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #053 #052- Retired TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "bbarry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jon Siccardi - Treehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> Schrick Aluminum Intake > An inviting package. > > For those of use with opened up intake tracts already, how much for the TB > alone, or converting a stock one on exchange? > Barry > > Jon Siccardi - Treehouse wrote: >> Here's an option we put together that is a little more affordable. >> http://www.treehouseracing.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=5&category_id=2&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=31 >> or http://www.tiny.cc/LIrZH >> if the first link is too long. >> This kit redefines the term "big bore" throttle body >> Jon > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:37:19 -0500 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'neil'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'BMW Digest'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'BMW-Mini-Cooper'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'UUC Digest'" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: wheel bolt chart Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you. Looks interesting. Matt Bader 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of neil Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:22 AM To: BMW Digest; BMW-Mini-Cooper; UUC Digest Subject: [UUC] wheel bolt chart One of my friends sent this to me, and I thought I'd pass it along. It has some very useful info for those looking to swap, change or upgrade their wheels. I haven't checked any of the facts or figures for accuracy, so use at your own risk. http://www.willysoffroadsupply.com/Wheel_Spacer_Chart.html?sid=6ccf0a8a25d09 ee6a4c59a9de1717b28 Neil -- Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS -------------------- www.getcoffeecup.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 08:58:26 -0600 From: "Rich Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Martin Bullen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'BMW Digest'" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Paul Garnier'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: dumb question for E38 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah, I can't find anybody stocking one specifically for a 740i but will try looking as suggested by group size and will also look for the Interstate MTP-93. Previously had good luck getting OEM items at good prices from www.alloembmwparts.com but even they didn't have a listing but did show a number to call. I'll check that on Monday. Thanks to all for the great advice!! Enjoy the Super Bowl! I don't really have a rooting interest but think Manning is underrated and could have a Marino type career if he doesn't close this year! Best! Rich -----Original Message----- From: Martin Bullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 Rich, Sorry, I don't. I've not had to buy one...yet. The PO was well-and- truly ripped off at the dealer a couple of years ago for a new BMW battery. Full price, plus installation time. I guess they didn't think they had competition, due to the unusual stock size. You could try Advance Auto and PeP Boys as well. Ask by group size, not by application. If you ask for a battery for a 740i you'll get dumb looks and referrals to the dealer. HTH, Martin On Feb 3, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Rich Jenkins wrote: > AutoZone says they don't carry one nor did Sears, Interstate, or > BatteryPlus > online inquiries find one. Making voice calls now.other sources > recommended? > > ________________________________________ > From: Martin Bullen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: BMW Digest > Subject: Re: [UUC] dumb question for E38 > > The stock size battery (group 93?) is often not readily available > anywhere > other than the dealer. However, others report good luck and much > reduced > cost by installing a Group 49 battery, which should fit using an > original > built-in but alternative hold-down mounting point. > > See www.e38.org for more information. > > Martin Bullen > '95 M3 > '97 Z3 2.8 > '01 740i Sport > > On Feb 3, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Alex Cagann wrote: > > > Batteries are cheap. You don't need to go to a shop to get one. > Take your > battery out, go to your local parts store (Autozone, Advanced Auto, > O'Reilly...whatever). Get a new battery and put it in yourself. > Price for > your battery should be between $40 and $80. Bring your old battery > with > you...you get about $10 for it, and you don't' have to worry about > getting > rid of it. > > Alex > > Thanks, I peeled back the stickers but no plugs visible. > Gonna try and pry off what 'could' be cover plates but if no > luck, guess I am off to the shop although even then, I'd > rather duck the mech. fees & part markup and order/install > myself if possible. > > Thanks again! > Rich > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 10:25:01 -0500 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'BMW Digest'" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Battery question for E38 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That battery is fairly common. Used in latest gen Porsche Carerras among others. I picked one up from the local Interstate Distributor. As someone said, bring the old one to the battery company and they'll match the battery there (right terminal placement, correct height, etc.) Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Jenkins" > Yeah, I can't find anybody stocking one specifically for a 740i but will > try > looking as suggested by group size and will also look for the Interstate > MTP-93. Previously had good luck getting OEM items at good prices from > www.alloembmwparts.com but even they didn't have a listing but did show a > number to call. I'll check that on Monday. > > Thanks to all for the great advice!! > Best! > Rich ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(9 messages) **********
