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From: "David Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: W and the apocalypts



> You riff about Russia was both pompous and ridiculous.
>  I have as many contacts as you do, including more in
> the intelligence community, which seethes at W by the
> way.

Wow, that's impressive.  I know Gautam was a young program director
(perhaps even the youngest ever) at the JFK school of government, and that
his program was Russian ecconomic development (Gautam can correct the exact
title if he wants). So, his job required almost constant contact with
people responsible for Russian ecconomic development?

Is there any way you can share, in a general way, your contacts in Russia
and how you arranged obtained  them?  Are a lot of folks in Russia Uplift
fans?  Are all of your books translated into Russian?

Dan M.

Dan M.

> With their border disputes settled, the Russ-Chinese
> have declared urgent interest in making their barder
> as profitable/peaceful as the US Canadian.  Arms are a
> small part of their burgeoning partnership, in which
> both provide what the other lacks.
>
> Again, Eurasia will not need military parity in order
> to be able to undermine our unipolar leadership in
> 21st century matters.  All they need do is DECIDE they
> don't like unipolarity for it to END.
>
> And it has ended.  Thanks to the blithering neocons.
>
>
> > >
> >
> > Well, his fellow officers didn't feel that way, and
> > they were his comrades in arms too.  Also, "EVERY
> > SINGLE ONE OF WHICH"
>
> This is an outright lie.
>
>  (incidentally, do you think
> > shouting makes you look _more_ rational?)
>
> The caps= shouting convention is utter nonsense.  If
> you want to follow it, I am sorry for the shrill tone
> that you have interpreted and which I did not utter at
> this end.
>
>
>
> > Dr. Brin, by your standard Clinton also planned the
> > invasion of Belize.  Invasion plans for pretty much
> > every country on earth are regularly planned in the
> > bowels of the Pentagon under every President.
> > That's
> > sort of what it's for.
>
>
> Absurd.  SCORES  (ooops *scores*) of special forces
> teams were flying in and out of Uzbekistan and
> Norhtern Alliance territory for a year before W said
> go.  That's a huge investment of time and energy...
>
> ... and if YOU (shouting intended) had bothered more
> than skimming my own postings, you would have
> addressed the actual meaning about BC planned
> Afghanistan, instead of posting an absurd distraction.
>
> I am now ending this.  My life does not need shrill
> shouting matches and name-calling with Gautam and
> John.  While they are smart guys, the chances of
> wither side budging the other are nill.  I respect
> them more than they probably think I do, but I no not
> have dittos and spare lifespan.
>
> I'll talk to conservatives who seriously want to
> ponder my arguments while re-evealuation.  I will NOT
> exchange any further brickbats with Gautam and John.
>
> Questions, maybe.  No more of these futility
> exchanges, though.
>
> I wish you all well and pray daily for Western
> Civilization.
>
>
> With cordial regards,
>
> David Brin
> www.davidbrin.com
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