Hi Cindy First, on charging a ¨fee¨. Tax Deductable? As my farmer brother-in-law says ¨deductable against what?
Second, given networking in the web 2.0 world with U-Tube, Twitter, Linkedin, Wiki´s and so many other social networks, what do we get for a fee that this list and other tagged, networked, distributed and . . . systems don´t give for free. Fees are the equivalent of the Great Wall that walls information out and not in. It creates filters that are normally made by those on the net who choose how to access and limit access to the one non-leveragable commodity, TIME. And that is the individual´s responsibility. thoughts? tom tom abeles > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:18:12 +0000 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net > Subject: Re: [DDN] The future of DDN > > Wiki is a good idea ... but I still think mailing list is a lot more VISIBLE. > I have clean forgotten about THE Future of DDN until this mail. > > Yes. I agree DDN should look into methods of payment. > > Perhaps some thoughts on the following two items? > 1) there should be perhaps free memberships for students for example. > > 2) As some of us at DDN have mentioned again and again during the debate on > $100 for a One-child-per-laptop etc. etc. ... perhaps we might want to look > at what is $100 to some in certain part of the world? > > Cindy > > ============= > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- On Sat, 11/10/08, Claude Almansi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Claude Almansi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [DDN] The future of DDN > To: "The Digital Divide Network discussion group" > <digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net> > Date: Saturday, 11 October, 2008, 11:43 AM > > Hi All, > > I am answering on the mailing-list (with Bcc to Adam Clare and Taran > Rampersad) rather than on the wiki because today I have a problem with > logging in at the wiki (1). > > About: > > "...To make the site easier to manage we propose the removal of the > communities functionality and discussion boards of DDN and replacing > the categorization system with tagging. > DDN's strength lies in the active mailing list and TIG realizes that > the mailing list isn't perfect. In an ideal setup the mailing list > will also be accessed online and have greater stability. > Online communities encourage discussions between users in more than > one place, right now that discussion happens on the mailing list for > DDN and less so on the website. To encourage more discussions we would > like to implement commenting on most DDN content. ..." > (in <http://wiki.digitaldivide.net/index.php?title=The_future_of_DDN>) > > - Removal ot the communities and discussion boards: I agree; at first, > each community had its own discussion board, but this stopped (around > 2005?), which meant that there could be no diaogue within the > communities. Anyway, even with that first set-up, there was little > dialogue in community discussion boards and in discussion boards in > general. > > - Mailing list: the archive is actually accessible online, but I'm not > sure it's really necessary to be able to post to it from the web. > However, until August 2006, the mailing-list archive had an RSS feed > through which the last messages were automatically shown bottom right > of the site in the "Featured RSS feeds" (2). That was a useful > feature: would it be possible to have it again? For instance by using > a yahoo or a google discussion list that have RSS feeds? > > - Making content taggable and discussable: great idea but in this > case, would it not be simpler and cheaper to move rather than revamp? > I'm thinking of Ning.com, where Steve Hargadon set up > <http://www.classroom20.com>. And then he convinced the Ning > administrators to make a special, ad-less, free offer for educators > and provide a network for them, http://education.ning.com/ . One > problem might be back-ups, though. > > > Re Taran Rampersad's addition to > <http://wiki.digitaldivide.net/index.php?title=The_future_of_DDN> : > "The Membership level is certainly worthwhile and is one that shows > promise, since DDN membership probably would be tax deductible, though > that needs to be clarified. While that is sufficient given enough > buy-in from the community, I'd also suggest continued monetization of > content through Google Ads (such as those found on email list > archives) and Amazon advertising. Further comments for funding would > probably require a prerequisite of what TIG has already tried to do > such that we can avoid repeating things" > I agree. Moreover, how could the payments be made? Some members may > not have a credit card. > > Best > > Claude Almansi > > > (1) Yesterday evening I was automatically logged in at the > http://wiki.digitaldivide.net wiki, presumably because I was logged in > at the www.digitaldivide.net main site, and even able to add some > things on the resource page of the wiki. Today I am logged in at the > main site, but not at the wiki. > The URL of the log-in link at the top right of the wiki pages is > <http://www.digitaldivide.net/includes/error.php?pushpath=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.digitaldivide.net%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DThe_future_of_DDN> > which a) is on the main site where I am already logged in; b) has a > message that says: "Error, you must login to access this page. "; c) > nevertheless also has login ID and password boxes, but they don't > work. > If I try to edit a page, say by opening > http://wiki.digitaldivide.net/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit, > the page says "Login required to edit", with a link to the "Log > in / > create account" > <http://wiki.digitaldivide.net/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin> > page, which a) doesn't have a create account option; b) refuses my > main site login data > > (2) The last recorded instance (Aug. 4, 2006) of the set-up with > "Featured RSS feed" at the Internet Archive is > <http://web.archive.org/web/20060804125420/http://digitaldivide.net/>). > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi DDN members! > > > > (...) > > > > We've outlined what exactly we'd like to do and how we plan on > doing on > > the DDN wiki. Please take a look at our plan and let us know your > > thoughts. > > > > Here's the link: > > http://wiki.digitaldivide.net/index.php?title=The_future_of_DDN > > > > Please remember that it is a wiki and we'd like to see your ideas > added to > > the wiki as well. > > > > (...) > > > _______________________________________________ > DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list > DIGITALDIVIDE@digitaldivide.net > http://digitaldivide.net/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide > To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. > _______________________________________________ > DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list > DIGITALDIVIDE@digitaldivide.net > http://digitaldivide.net/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide > To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE > in the body of the message. _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? 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