When I used to be on another digital group (I think it may have been one 
of the TAPR lists?), Maiko was able to get certain hardware/firmware to 
work with his development of JNOS2.

Although JNOS is very theoretical to me, I wonder if it could it be set 
up with the mode of your choice (within limits) that will work well with 
sound cards?

Considering the tremendous effort that has gone into some of these 
technologies, and the little use they seem to have gotten, it suggests 
to me that they do not meet the needs of a target user. Developing for 
proprietary hardware/firmware does not seem like the direction to take, 
but developing for sound card applications does seem like the most 
practical way to create something that may reach critical mass with 
enough users.

I have believed for some time that we need a framework that would allow 
"bolting on" of different sound card modes for low cost and accurate 
data transfer between stations and even into the internet on an ad hoc 
basis so that you can set it up whenever you have the need and wherever 
an internet connection might be available for public service/emergency 
traffic.

By itself, the old MIL-STD-188-141A protocol is a fairly old technology 
(1970's), and would not normally be something that we would 
intentionally use anymore. The FAE modified form has proven itself to me 
and several of us who have been experimenting with it, since it is more 
robust and yet reasonably fast with the slower baud rate and narrower 
bandwidth of FAE400.

Are any developers looking at the Winmor specifications and its approach 
to not only error free data transfer, but having adaptive modes that can 
work under varying conditions?

73,

Rick, KV9U


Jose A. Amador wrote:
> I almost always used JNOS with KISS interfaces, it is a natural way of 
> using it. TNC's under MSDOS, and also thru pipes under Linux with 
> net2kiss (I would have to go back to the manual to remember a few 
> details). It could be interfaced with the BPQ switch, so FBB, JNOS, the 
> BPQ switch could share the same KISS TNC.
>
> I was not succesful to interface JNOS to MultiPSK using TCPIP, and have 
> not tried yet using the KISS interface, but I see that others have had 
> quite a bit of success with it.
>
> Could that be extended to ALE? Right now I don't really know, but looks 
> interesting to find out.
>
> I am not up to date with all that Maiko has added to JNOS 2.0
>
> 73,
>
> Jose, CO2JA
>
> ---
>
> John Bradley wrote:
>   
>> So how would we go about using FBB or JNOS? JNOS has appeal since it can
>> gateway to the internet, a desirable feature
>> for emergency comms
>>
>> John
>> VE5MU
>>
>>
>> I believe that the simplest is not reinventing the wheel, and using MultiPSK
>> as a modem, using traditional BBS programs as the mail application.
>> Does anyone find this to be wrong?
>>
>> The store and forward part could mean a *LOT* of work to be done, or
>> actually, re-done...
>>
>> For traditional ham mail, I find FBB is very good. And for e-mail, JNOS.
>>
>> Would it be possible to extend the KISS mode interface to other modes and
>> not only packet? I don't know right now, but sounds tempting.
>>
>> I feel that a lot of the old packet legacy programs have a lot to offer if
>> the classic TNC is replaced for a better modem.
>>
>> Maybe it would be interesting to identify other interfacing software, i.e.,
>> KISS-WA8DED, 6PACK-KISS, etc
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jose, CO2JA
>>     

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