Follow-up: Just to be sure, I uninstalled all previous and coexisting versions
of FrameMaker, and completely reinstalled FM 2019 64-bit. Same behavior.
I find it interesting that under the Apps section in task manager, if you
expand FrameMaker, it's running something called "Legacy32.exe (32 bit)" which
confirms my suspicion that 64-bit Frame really isn't... at least not entirely.
V15.0.8.979 which is a newer update than what I originally listed below, but no
change in performance.
Also, when I have zero pods open and rapidly use the keyboard to move up and
down through lines of text, there is no spike in CPU usage, but if I open even
one pod such as character designer or paragraph designer and do the same, it
instantly spikes CPU core 1 to 100% and bogs down until I stop moving the
curser. It is literally polling and updating all open pods on every single
keystroke.
-Dan
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From: Harding, Dan
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Subject: RE: [Framers] Processing time
Art,
I can't tell if your reply is intended tongue in cheek or not. A core i9 with
64GB of Ram is lightweight? According to CPU & RAM meters, the system isn't
even using 27% of RAM when under load running Frame, and of the 20 CPU cores,
Frame only utilizes one of them which it pegs to 100%; Frame apparently is not
a multithreaded application... so the vast majority of system resources Frame
isn't capable of utilizing. It's ancient technology under the hood.
If there is a way to force Frame to utilize more CPU cores to boost
performance, I'm all ears. I've not been able to find a solution.
All files are local, not on the network.
To be clear, this is 64-bit Frame I'm running, not 32-bit. 2019 version
(15.0.3.603) as I will not shift to the subscription model.
Thanks,
-Dan
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Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 4:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Processing time
Your machine is kind of light weight for intensive publishing. I'd definitely
try to boost the RAM.
Also, you don't say if the files are all local or on a LAN/server somewhere,
which will create another bottleneck if they have to be opened locally, which
probably involves some virus checking.
May be worth downloading a new version build to see if the 64 bit version gives
you any speed.
Art Campbell
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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:42 AM Harding, Dan <dhard...@illinois.edu> wrote:
> Actually, 32-bit or 64-bit, regardless of machine specs, FrameMaker is
> a performance dog. It's horrible... and I say that as someone who
> loves the software itself... but its resource utilization is GawdAwful(tm).
>
> Not just during rendering phases, but Frame polls all opened
> pods/dialogs with every keypress, so the more pods you have open
> whilst editing, the more paragraph and character styles that are
> defined for the document, the more fonts that are installed on the
> system, the slower it is to navigate a document with the keyboard.
> Even with an i9 cpu and 64GB RAM and no other foreground applications
> running in Win10, I cannot operate with all of the pods open that I
> typically would want to reference. I have to keep multiple streamlined
> workspaces defined tailored to specific tasks, as the interface becomes
> unusable if I try to have everything open.
>
> Compared to InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Frame feels at least an
> order of magnitude slower. It's like running under water.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers
> <framers-bounces+dharding=illinois....@lists.frameusers.com>
> On Behalf Of Pulkit Nagpal
> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 12:28 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Processing time
>
> FrameMaker 2017 was on 32 bit architecture and FrameMaker 2019 &
> FrameMaker 2020 is based on 64bit architecture which by default
> improves performance of Application .
>
> if you have 64 bit OS, I suggest you to upgrade to latest version or
> try out the latest version on t 30 days trial, Make sure you have
> backup of older version files
>
> Thanks
> Pulkit Nagpal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers
> <framers-bounces+punagpal=adobe....@lists.frameusers.com>
> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:53 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Processing time
>
> Use the Task Manager's Performance tab to see what the bottleneck is.
> Is CPU, memory, or disk at or close to 100%?
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 8:46 AM Sparky Anderson
> <dbailey4...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Whenever I publish to HTML or save to PDF, FrameMaker takes longer
> > than I'd like. Waiting on Frame to finish processing is slowing
> > down my productivity (and trying my patience).
> >
> > What's the best way to tackle this issue? More RAM? A faster CPU?
> > Something else?
> >
> > I'm running FM 2017 on the following:
> >
> > 64-bit Windows 10 Pro version 20H2
> > Intel i5-7500 CPU @ 3.40 GHz
> > 16 GB
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