Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

[David Cole]

Isn't that the same Peter M that wrote the Dopplergram program?  If so,
he is one smart cookie...  He is in my Dopplergram group on Yahoo, and
the depth of knowledge he demonstrates almost daily is amazing...
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On Sat, 2015-11-28 at 03:08 -0700, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote:

> There was also an excellent article about it in Radcom by P. Martinez
> (G3PLX), "Long Delayed Echoes, A Study of Magnetospheric Duct Echoes
> 1997-2007," Radcom, Oct 2007, pp. 60-63 (not on the web to my knowledge).
> 
> I have an analysis of several such medium delayed echoes or
> magnetospherically delayed echoes (MDE), including that of G3PLX, here:
> http://la3za.blogspot.no/2010/03/magnetospherically-ducted-echo.html 
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

[Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)]

An 80m or 160m signal echo after about 1/7 second may seem like a
round-the-world echo. But it is more likely that it is a ducted signal in
the magnetosphere. The actual delay varies with geomagnetic latitude, and
the further south one is the closer the delay time is to 1/7 second.  

Such signals can be trapped in occasionally occurring, tubular
magnetospheric ducts, which stretch from the northern to the southern
hemispheres along the Earth's magnetic-field lines. 

I wrote about it in QST in 2009 -
http://folk.uio.no/sverre/papers/2009_MagnetoDucting-QST-LA3ZA.pdf.

There was also an excellent article about it in Radcom by P. Martinez
(G3PLX), "Long Delayed Echoes, A Study of Magnetospheric Duct Echoes
1997-2007," Radcom, Oct 2007, pp. 60-63 (not on the web to my knowledge).

I have an analysis of several such medium delayed echoes or
magnetospherically delayed echoes (MDE), including that of G3PLX, here:
http://la3za.blogspot.no/2010/03/magnetospherically-ducted-echo.html 

The echo time can be predicted from latitude, so if I get more data, I can
run my program to estimate the delay time for a given place at a certain
time (geomagnetic latitude rel to geographic latitude varies with time).








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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

[Stephen Prior]

Yes, he's also the originator of the amateur form of AMTOR and PSK31.

73 Stephen

On 28 November 2015 at 14:13, David Cole  wrote:

> Isn't that the same Peter M that wrote the Dopplergram program?  If so,
> he is one smart cookie...  He is in my Dopplergram group on Yahoo, and
> the depth of knowledge he demonstrates almost daily is amazing...
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
>
> For MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> For Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> For MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
> On Sat, 2015-11-28 at 03:08 -0700, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote:
>
> > There was also an excellent article about it in Radcom by P. Martinez
> > (G3PLX), "Long Delayed Echoes, A Study of Magnetospheric Duct Echoes
> > 1997-2007," Radcom, Oct 2007, pp. 60-63 (not on the web to my knowledge).
> >
> > I have an analysis of several such medium delayed echoes or
> > magnetospherically delayed echoes (MDE), including that of G3PLX, here:
> > http://la3za.blogspot.no/2010/03/magnetospherically-ducted-echo.html
> >
>
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[Elecraft] K3S macro to select FrontPanel (mic) or LineIn (codec)?

[Larry Gauthier (K8UT)]

For phone contesting, I would like to select the LineIn codec, transmit a
wav file, then revert to FrontPanel mic input. I have the K3S successfully
transmitting the wav audio via its codec input, but not the source switching
back-and-forth. The programmer's reference lists a command that enables both
LineIn + FrontPanel simultaneously - which is unacceptable.

The programmer's reference describes the use of MP and MQ Menu Selections
(i.e. MN053) and then refer to using " UP / DN to alter the settings." I do
not know how to combine those macros for source switching. Is there a way to
make this work?

Thanks in advance for any advice,

-larry (K8UT) 


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[Elecraft] KX3 WSPR Question

[James Bennett]

Hi folks - I recently set up my KX3 to use as a WSPR transmit and receive 
system and have a question on calibrating the radio. For my CW work it was fine 
as is, but with WSPR it should be as close as possible. The WSPR software 
includes a small suite of programs to help make offsets in WSPR for the dial 
frequency of the KX3, making the actual receive and transmit frequencies 
extremely accurate - within a few hertz.

I'm trying to locate someone with a KX3 who has used those FMT programs for 
their WSPR operation. The measurements I've gotten look suspicious to me. I've 
posted a question on the WSJT Yahoo group and even emailed Joe Taylor K1JT 
about it, but so far I've gotten nada. Anyone...?

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

[David Cole]

I had no idea he was the originator of AMTOR, and PSK31 as well.  That
answers why he know so much...  

He is in the group for support of Dopplergram, and is very active
there... 
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On Sat, 2015-11-28 at 15:04 +, Stephen Prior wrote:
> Yes, he's also the originator of the amateur form of AMTOR and PSK31.
> 
> 73 Stephen
> 
> On 28 November 2015 at 14:13, David Cole  wrote:
> 
> > Isn't that the same Peter M that wrote the Dopplergram program?  If so,
> > he is one smart cookie...  He is in my Dopplergram group on Yahoo, and
> > the depth of knowledge he demonstrates almost daily is amazing...
> > --
> > Thanks and 73's,
> > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> > www.nk7z.net
> >
> > For MixW support see;
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> > For Dopplergram information see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> > For MM-SSTV see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2015-11-28 at 03:08 -0700, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote:
> >
> > > There was also an excellent article about it in Radcom by P. Martinez
> > > (G3PLX), "Long Delayed Echoes, A Study of Magnetospheric Duct Echoes
> > > 1997-2007," Radcom, Oct 2007, pp. 60-63 (not on the web to my knowledge).
> > >
> > > I have an analysis of several such medium delayed echoes or
> > > magnetospherically delayed echoes (MDE), including that of G3PLX, here:
> > > http://la3za.blogspot.no/2010/03/magnetospherically-ducted-echo.html
> > >
> >
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[Elecraft] 2meter off Frequency

[Richard Thorpe]

I have a K3 with the 2 meter board it has the K144VX ref lock board and the 
radio has the K3EXREF installed also installed are the KSYN3A boards.  With all 
these boards working the 2meter frequency is of by 5 kc.  The only way I can 
bring it back on frequency is by manually adjusting the frequency.  Any ideas 
as to what is causing this anomaly?  Thank you.

Richard K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] 2meter off Frequency

[Kevin Stover]

You've got the external reference board...what's the external reference 
your using?
Is the external reference board configured correctly in the K3? Same for 
the ref lock?

Is the mode FM or SSB/CW?


On 11/28/2015 10:36 AM, Richard Thorpe wrote:

I have a K3 with the 2 meter board it has the K144VX ref lock board and the 
radio has the K3EXREF installed also installed are the KSYN3A boards.  With all 
these boards working the 2meter frequency is of by 5 kc.  The only way I can 
bring it back on frequency is by manually adjusting the frequency.  Any ideas 
as to what is causing this anomaly?  Thank you.

Richard K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

[mcduffie]

> Yes, he's also the originator of the amateur form of AMTOR and PSK31.

Yes.  Peter was the father of AMTOR, one of the most fun modes there ever was,
in my opinion.  Too bad it died off, especially when today's rigs would handle
it so well.  The throughput rate was just right to keep you humpin' on the
typing and carry on rag chews lasting as long as you didn't run out of material
to chew on.  ;)  By the way, the AMT-1 was his design, if I remember correctly,
and built by AEA, who also built the big PK-232.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

"Amtor" existed long before it was a legal mode on
Amateur radio as "SiTOR", (Simplex Teleprinting
over Radio" ) on commercial maritime circuits. To
my knowledge, there is no basic difference between
Sitor and Amtor.  Only the name is different.

I remember when working for Microlog Corp back in
the 70's, when we were developing the SiTor
terminal programs,  we'd  (illegally to be sure)
fire up the TR-7 on the marine 12 MHz band and
call marine coastal stations to check out our
operating program, asking for radio reports etc.
We knew most of the ops, so nobody cared too much.
Especially if the network was quiet for a while
before we called.  Curiously, the TR-7 IS fast
enough to successfully operate Mode A Amtor.  

Since there was a several month lead time for ads
in QST, I remember getting the inside scoop that
the FCC was about to OK the use of both Mode A
(hand-shake) and mode B (Forward Error Correction)
Sitor, or Amtor if you please on the HAM bands.
The ad was scheduled to come out in the issue of
QST, the same month the FCC OK came out.  This was
the "Now, you can chirp back." Ad and boy was I
sweating bullets that the OK would in fact come
out in time.   Luckily for me, it did so I avoided
a huge "egg-in-the-face" situation.

It was quite a challenge back then to find radios
that would switch (from full power transmit to
full sensitivity receive) fast enough to run mode
A.  This was not break-in CW because almost all
the programs used AFSK with the rigs in SSB mode.
Seems like a century ago..

73, Charlie k3ICH

-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of Stephen Prior
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Elecraft 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

Yes, he's also the originator of the amateur form
of AMTOR and PSK31.

73 Stephen



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[Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[David Glasser]

HELP NEEDED IN ORLANDO FLORIDA!!
Hi everyone
I am trying to ready myself for a K3S that I hope to have delivered in the not 
too distant future. Hooray!!
The problem I face is that I really am a rookie and I need help, by way of 
discussion and some "in shack" visual time as well.
Is there anyone who lives in Orlando that is running a K3S who would be willing 
to give up some precious time to assist me in this crucial set up period?
I can be contacted on:

glasse...@outlook.com

I would appreciate your generosity



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Re: [Elecraft] 2meter off Frequency

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I ran into this, and what I found is the connection to the reference K144VX 
board was not good.(The center pin out on that connector had pushed out)



  From: Richard Thorpe 
 To: Elecraft List  
 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:36 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] 2meter off Frequency
   
I have a K3 with the 2 meter board it has the K144VX ref lock board and the 
radio has the K3EXREF installed also installed are the KSYN3A boards.  With all 
these boards working the 2meter frequency is of by 5 kc.  The only way I can 
bring it back on frequency is by manually adjusting the frequency.  Any ideas 
as to what is causing this anomaly?  Thank you.

Richard K6CG
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[Elecraft] FS: KSYN3A synthesizer upgrade kit

[zabarnick .]

I'll take it Jim.

Steve
N9SZ
zabarnick at gmail dot com
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Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[Mel Farrer via Elecraft]

Believe me, the K3S and the K3 factory assembled are eye candy and User 
friendly.  Enjoy the initial experience at your own pace.  IT IS wonderful.
Mel, K6KBE

  From: Bob N3MNT 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS 
   
The K3S is usable out of the box.  The best way to use it is to connect it
per the manual then use it.  Over time you will find things you wish to
tweak.  Look them up in the manual and learn them as needed.  All the
Elecraft radios are ready to use out of the box. Everyone sets their
slightly differently ( filters, gains, macros etc) .  Use it and make it
yours as you gain experience.



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[Elecraft] FS: KSYN3A synthesizer upgrade kit

[Jim Lowman]

I have one of the KSYN3A synthesizer kits for sale.
It is excess to my needs, as I bought a K3S.
New in the box; non-smoking household.

Shipped for $175.

73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] Long Path Echoes

[Amateur Radio Operator N5GE]

On Fri, 27 Nov 2015 20:55:20 + (UTC), you wrote:

>Jim,
> I have had the same results into the Ukraine and Europe in the mornings 
> before sunrise here at my Amador county QTH with my 160 Meter double extended 
> Zepps that have a 80 meter lobe right at them.  The path did not last long 
> and was very selective on stations worked, area wise.
>Mel, K6KBE
>

I hear the long path echo's occasionally here In Arlington, TX.  The
first time I heard one was when I had a good shack and antennae out in
the boonies near Little Axe, OK.

And, yes the TR7 / R7 combination was able to hear them in the rural
area. 

ARS N5GE

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Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[Bob N3MNT]

The K3S is usable out of the box.  The best way to use it is to connect it
per the manual then use it.  Over time you will find things you wish to
tweak.  Look them up in the manual and learn them as needed.  All the
Elecraft radios are ready to use out of the box. Everyone sets their
slightly differently ( filters, gains, macros etc) .  Use it and make it
yours as you gain experience.



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Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[Fred Jensen]

OK David ... assuming you are not disabled in some way [for the record, 
I am], assembling a K3(S) is not hard and it will work just fine for you 
"right out of the box."  The factory defaults work great, I used them 
for several years before digging into the menus.


I recommend you separate the screws, nuts, and lock washers into 
separate bins by size, a muffin tin or egg carton works well, just don't 
put ESD sensitive components into Styrofoam.  Go slow [this is not a 
sprint], ban the vacuum from your shack until done, and defer working on 
it after a beer or a glass of wine. :-)  Just follow the build 
instructions exactly, and no fooling, check them off.


If your concerns are about shack wiring and usage after build, consult 
this group, be as specific as you can [I recommend one question at a 
time, it seems to lower the hijack rate of your need].  If you've got 
locals, go there first.  Feel free to ask me why I know this.


You're K3(s) will work just great out-of-the-box.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016
- www.cqp.org




-Original Message- From: David Glasser
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:26 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS 

HELP NEEDED IN ORLANDO FLORIDA!!
Hi everyone
I am trying to ready myself for a K3S that I hope to have delivered in
the not too distant future. Hooray!!
The problem I face is that I really am a rookie and I need help, by way
of discussion and some "in shack" visual time as well.
Is there anyone who lives in Orlando that is running a K3S who would be
willing to give up some precious time to assist me in this crucial set
up period?
I can be contacted on:

glasse...@outlook.com

I would appreciate your generosity


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Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[Kevin Stover]

David,

Are you new to Ham Radio or just the K3(s)?
First rule in Ham Radio and specifically the Elecraft products. There 
are no shortcuts.
If you're buying the kit or assembled version first step always is to 
read the manuals, both assembly and operators.

They're free for the downloading from the Elecraft site.

I would also add Fred Cady's books on the K3 to the required reading list.

If after reading all you can from these good sources on the K3 you still 
feel the need for help then this mailing list is available.


If this is your first Ham Radio ever you need to spend some time with 
the ARRL Operating Manual before ever getting on the air. The K3 is 
possibly the most configurable radio ever built. You will be doing 
yourself and it a disservice by jumping before looking.


On 11/28/2015 5:26 PM, David Glasser wrote:

HELP NEEDED IN ORLANDO FLORIDA!!
Hi everyone
I am trying to ready myself for a K3S that I hope to have delivered in the not 
too distant future. Hooray!!
The problem I face is that I really am a rookie and I need help, by way of discussion and 
some "in shack" visual time as well.
Is there anyone who lives in Orlando that is running a K3S who would be willing 
to give up some precious time to assist me in this crucial set up period?
I can be contacted on:

glasse...@outlook.com

I would appreciate your generosity




--
R. Kevin Stover
AC0H
ARRL
FISTS #11993
SKCC #215
NAQCC #3441


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Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[Jim Brown]

The problem I face is that I really am a rookie and I need help, by 
way of discussion and some "in shack" visual time as well. 


Your new rig will come out of the box ready to TX, but you will need to 
hook up a paddle, mic, computer, and antenna.


Like any complex piece of gear, the first move is ALWAYS to STUDY THE 
MANUAL.  It will tell you how to hook stuff up to the radio, how the 
controls work, how the meters work, etc. This is vital stuff, so take 
your time with it. You can even get a running start by downloading the 
manual from the Elecraft website and studying it while you wait for UPS. :)


Yes, there are menus and options, but they mostly are for things you add 
to the radio, or different ways you want the radio to work. Leave this 
stuff for later.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K2 s/n 7637 Completed Today

[Dauer, Edward]

Completed the K2 (with KAF2 and KNB2) just today.  All of the bench tests, 
alignments, and calibrations seem to have gone per plan; but because the 
antenna farm is 100 miles from my Denver home it will be a while before I can 
try it on the air - maybe if the weather in Denver warms up I can break out the 
Buddipole here in town.  So far, No. 7637 has successfully warmed up a small 
dummy load.

Because Spectrogram is Windows-only and I am Mac only, I did the alignments 
another way - an oscilloscope reading the AF output voltage and a KX3 working 
into a dummy load as the signal generator.  (The n-gen wide band signal 
generator just drove the scope nuts.)   Maybe not strictly kosher but, hey, 
we're hams.

The KPA-100 and the external ATU are next.

Most important, I want to publicly recognize the outstanding assistance and 
great patience of Gary Surrency at Elecraft Support, Richard Trebbien at Parts 
and - most  of all - Don Wilhelm who gave me more of his time than I had any 
reason to expect.  And to Dave Brown (K8AX), who has been building at about the 
same pace and who helped identify both problems and solutions we shared.   
They've been part of the experience, which has been top notch.

When I get No. 7637 on the air, give a call if you hear it.

Ted, KN1CBR  (K3-line, KX3-line, and now K2)

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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

[Fred Jensen]

That is my recollection as well.  SITOR is very much alive and well, 
AMTOR, maybe not so much, amateurs tend to move on, sometimes but not 
always ahead of the pack. :-)


NAVTEX is also alive and well, 518 Kcs, I think.

Modes I remember but are more or less moribund:  AMTOR, HF AX.25 pa, AM.

Modes I don't know anything about:  Olivia, anything with more than 3 
tones, and everything that starts with "JT."


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016
- www.cqp.org

On 11/28/2015 12:29 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

"Amtor" existed long before it was a legal mode on
Amateur radio as "SiTOR", (Simplex Teleprinting
over Radio" ) on commercial maritime circuits. To
my knowledge, there is no basic difference between
Sitor and Amtor.  Only the name is different.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 to Computer

[Stephen Shearer]

I take the answers you got one step further.  Yes, I use the control COM 
port for PTT.  Yes, you need to change the mike functions (buttons/PTT). 
 I also use an "extra" USB sound card for the radio audio I/O so that 
the system sounds still can come from the computer.  Some digital mode 
software "talks" to you.  JT65 alerts for one.  The extra sound card 
also keeps the computer boot sounds from transmitting to all...


steve WB3LGC

On 28-Oct-15 4:58 PM, Forest Shick wrote:

What is the easiest way to connect the KX3 to a computer for RTTY, PSK31 &
SSTV. I have purchased the cable set. I connect the KX3 - Phones connector
to the computer audio in and I can receive RTTY & SSTV. If I connect the
computer audio out to the KX3 MIC, the radio goes into transmit. I would
guess this is because the connector on the cable is incorrect for the MIC
connector - too few contacts.



So how do you connect the audio for transmitting?

Thank You

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 s/n 7637 Completed Today

[Kenneth Christiansen]

Hi Dauer and the group

I built my K2 in 2000 and used it until I donated it to a local high school in 
2013. I used Spectrogram and Windows in the early years but changed to FLDIGI 
and used the FFT option for the spectrum display in the later years and still 
use it today with my K3s and KX3 if I want to check the filters. I understand 
FLDIGI works with the Apple operating system as well as Linux so you should be 
able to use it on whatever computer you have. I alined my K2 many times with it 
and felt it did just as well as Spectrogram. The reason I quit using 
Spectrogram is I always upgraded my operating system and there was a while that 
Spectrogram would not run on my computer.

I hope this information helps you.

good luck and 73

Ken   W0CZw0cz at i29 dot net

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
> 
> Completed the K2 (with KAF2 and KNB2) just today.  All of the bench tests, 
> alignments, and calibrations seem to have gone per plan; but because the 
> antenna farm is 100 miles from my Denver home it will be a while before I can 
> try it on the air - maybe if the weather in Denver warms up I can break out 
> the Buddipole here in town.  So far, No. 7637 has successfully warmed up a 
> small dummy load.
> 
> Because Spectrogram is Windows-only and I am Mac only, I did the alignments 
> another way - an oscilloscope reading the AF output voltage and a KX3 working 
> into a dummy load as the signal generator.  (The n-gen wide band signal 
> generator just drove the scope nuts.)   Maybe not strictly kosher but, hey, 
> we're hams.
> 
> The KPA-100 and the external ATU are next.
> 
> Most important, I want to publicly recognize the outstanding assistance and 
> great patience of Gary Surrency at Elecraft Support, Richard Trebbien at 
> Parts and - most  of all - Don Wilhelm who gave me more of his time than I 
> had any reason to expect.  And to Dave Brown (K8AX), who has been building at 
> about the same pace and who helped identify both problems and solutions we 
> shared.   They've been part of the experience, which has been top notch.
> 
> When I get No. 7637 on the air, give a call if you hear it.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR  (K3-line, KX3-line, and now K2)
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Long Path Echoes

[Wes (N7WS)]

For a real long path, long delayed echo consider this story I've told before:

Back in the early eighties I was still active on real (non-digital) 2-meter EME. 
One morning before heading to work I was pointed toward the setting moon looking 
for JA or UA0.  As I tuned around I heard a CQ.  As I listened for the call, I 
heard another CQ on a slightly different frequency.  "Wow" I said to myself, 
"this is amazing."  As I continued to listen, I identified W5UN on one 
frequency.  I had worked Dave several times, even on SSB, so I passed on him and 
tuned to the other guy.  He was also W5UN!  I was hearing Dave off the back of 
the antenna on tropo (950 miles) on one frequency and off the moon with some 
Doppler and a 2.5 second time delay on another frequency.


Wes  N7WS

On 11/27/2015 1:38 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On Thu,11/26/2015 7:54 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:
That would be from me… Amazingly, this was on 80 meters, and was heard all 
over the bay area up into central CA. At times the “echo” was louder than the 
direct signal!
There are at least two recordings from that event. Very strange, and 
extremely interesting. While it was ongoing, both 40 and 80 were open across NA.


Those of us with very good antennas for 80 and 40M, and especially those with 
directional RX (either a beam or Beverage) are well aware of long path 
openings at certain times of the day. Last winter, while CQing on 80M, I made 
a half dozen Qs to Ukraine split between two mornings. Post contest analysis 
showed them to all to be within about 200 miles of each other, and along the 
grey line. At other times, I've made long path openings to EU in the morning.


While operating from Chicago with dipoles for 20-10, there were periods of an 
hour or two during DX contests when I was hearing EU stations equally strong 
via short and long paths, to the extent that they were completely uncopyable.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[Robin Moseley]

I will fly out if it is an expensed trip :)

Robin G1MHU

-Original Message- 
From: David Glasser

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:26 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS 

HELP NEEDED IN ORLANDO FLORIDA!!
Hi everyone
I am trying to ready myself for a K3S that I hope to have delivered in the 
not too distant future. Hooray!!
The problem I face is that I really am a rookie and I need help, by way of 
discussion and some "in shack" visual time as well.
Is there anyone who lives in Orlando that is running a K3S who would be 
willing to give up some precious time to assist me in this crucial set up 
period?

I can be contacted on:

glasse...@outlook.com

I would appreciate your generosity



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Re: [Elecraft] LDEs (Long-Delayed Echos)

[Phil Kane]

On 11/28/2015 4:44 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> That is my recollection as well.  SITOR is very much alive and well,

> NAVTEX is also alive and well, 518 Kcs, I think.

SITOR is the mode of choice for USCG bulletins on HF  and their NAVTEX
equivalent on 518 kHz.  The "official" name for SITOR is NBDP (Narrow
Band Direct Printing).  San Francisco Marine Radio (Station KSM)
transmits press and weather on Saturday afternoons using both RTTY and
SITOR  My PK-232 decodes SITOR when used in AMTOR  mode when I can get a
decent signal on their 8 MHz or 12 MHz frequencies.  I've given up on
NAVTEX (poor antenna).

Unfortunately the USCG 8416.5 MHz transmissions  fall in the "gap" in K3
coverage.  I'm still looking to replace my 35+ year old Kenwood R-5000
Communications Receiver with a more modern one - but no luck so far.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Hi David: I'm clear across the country in Oregon. But check out the Orlando
Amateur Radio Club:

http://www.oarc.org/

With over 300 members, I'd be surprised if several didn't have a K3 or K3S. 

73, Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David
Glasser
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 3:26 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS 

HELP NEEDED IN ORLANDO FLORIDA!!
Hi everyone
I am trying to ready myself for a K3S that I hope to have delivered in the
not too distant future. Hooray!!
The problem I face is that I really am a rookie and I need help, by way of
discussion and some "in shack" visual time as well.
Is there anyone who lives in Orlando that is running a K3S who would be
willing to give up some precious time to assist me in this crucial set up
period?
I can be contacted on:

glasse...@outlook.com

I would appreciate your generosity



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Re: [Elecraft] Final attempt at SOS !!!!

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

On 11/28/2015 7:54 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
Your new rig will come out of the box ready to TX, but you will need 
to hook up a paddle, mic, computer, and antenna. 

Depends on what you want to do.

Personally, don't need a paddle or a microphone.

73 -- Lynn
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Re: [Elecraft] FS: KSYN3A synthesizer upgrade kit - SOLD!

[Jim Lowman]

Thanks for the overwhelming response, everyone.
The synthesizer upgrade has been spoken for, pending payment.

73 de Jim - AD6CW


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