Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex key collectible on eBay

[Tom Morehouse via Elecraft]

I have one I will part with for half that —$200.

73,

Tom 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex key collectible on eBay

[Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS]

Just FYI for those who is interesting in...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elecraft-Hex-Key-Bencher-Excellent/14392297?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3De4f540e5991e4b39aca5d74393f99590%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D14392297%26itm%3D14392297%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DBENCHER&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A267fb719-7b7b-11eb-91e7-8ad8eef560a6%7Cparentrq%3Af3f1bd631770ab8cd7b19662fffcd382%7Ciid%3A1

(bit overpriced)

Ahoj,



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS]

Yes, of course as Gus said the Bencher BY-1 is far different - single pivot,
spring tensioning, no adjustment. (Set spring tensioning, no adjustments to
make other than desired contact spacing)
It is completely different system compare to Hex key. It is not possible to
mix up them...

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Augie "Gus" Hansen]

Other than having two paddles for iambic keying, these keys are quite 
different. The BY-1 is fragile and finicky; the Hex key is solid and 
easily adjusted. I've had both and much prefer the Hex key. However, 
both have been replaced by a Scheunemann M-Dirigent (was Schurr Profi).


    http://www.morsex.com/scheun/

73,
Gus Hansen
KB0YH

    BY-1: http://www.vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/p199.html

    Hex Key: http://www.vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/p250.html


On 1/10/2018 12:23 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I had a HexKey from Elecraft for quite awhile.  It was basically the 
Bencher BY-1 paddle mechanism on a hexagonal base that was somewhat 
heavier [and more stable] than the BY-1 base.  Dave, W8FGU, made me a 
cover.


A deficiency in both the BY-1 and HexKey was the contact adjustment 
screws.  The threads are fairly coarse and adjustment was very touchy 
and not readily repeatable.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Fred Jensen]

I had a HexKey from Elecraft for quite awhile.  It was basically the 
Bencher BY-1 paddle mechanism on a hexagonal base that was somewhat 
heavier [and more stable] than the BY-1 base.  Dave, W8FGU, made me a cover.


A deficiency in both the BY-1 and HexKey was the contact adjustment 
screws.  The threads are fairly coarse and adjustment was very touchy 
and not readily repeatable.


Old injuries and resultant arthritis in my hands was making the HexKey 
hard to use and I now use an N3ZN single-lever which has really helped.  
Additionally, the adjustment screws are 52 TPI and very easy to get 
right.  The ZN-SL is also on a much heavier base and never moves.  Dave 
made a cover for it too.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 1/10/2018 3:18 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote:

Hi all,

just small note...

The Hex key is NOT the Mercury copy.

Bencher is making their own Mercury, N2DAN keys under license and their Hex
key is another product with a bit different concept.
  
The Hex key is simplified paddle. It is high standard paddle but not

comparable with the Mercury, N2DAN.
The fine wide range and proper adjustment of the Mercury N2DAN is completely
"different story" compare to Hex key.

http://www.vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/p206.html
http://www.vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/p250.html

2c...

Best 73 - Petr, OK1RP



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Hexagonal base. The shape of the base confuses mistakes so most do not make
it to the paddles thereby improving sending. It's certainly worth the >$300
to trap errors, isn't it? 

73, Ron AC7AC

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A paddle keyer named  "HEX" ???

I thought you were asking about an Allen wrench.
C


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS]

Hi all,

just small note...

The Hex key is NOT the Mercury copy. 

Bencher is making their own Mercury, N2DAN keys under license and their Hex
key is another product with a bit different concept.
 
The Hex key is simplified paddle. It is high standard paddle but not
comparable with the Mercury, N2DAN.
The fine wide range and proper adjustment of the Mercury N2DAN is completely
"different story" compare to Hex key.

http://www.vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/p206.html
http://www.vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/p250.html

2c...

Best 73 - Petr, OK1RP



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I think this is what one looks like.


73
Bob, K4TAX




On 1/9/2018 1:14 PM, IK4EWX wrote:

Scott, the hex key is a  copy of a N2DAN on an hex base, produced by Bencher
after they bought the right of N2DAN paddle.
Sure it is a great key.
Vibroplex/Bencher now sell il for 324 $, I think this is adeguate value for
this first class iambic paddle.
I own a great N2DAN paddle, so I think to know the quality of your paddle.
Ian IK4EWX



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[IK4EWX]

Scott, the hex key is a  copy of a N2DAN on an hex base, produced by Bencher
after they bought the right of N2DAN paddle.
Sure it is a great key.
Vibroplex/Bencher now sell il for 324 $, I think this is adeguate value for
this first class iambic paddle.
I own a great N2DAN paddle, so I think to know the quality of your paddle.
Ian IK4EWX



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Mark Goldberg]

Select "Completed listings" on the left of the ebay page and you can see
what past items sold (or did not sell) for. Two recently sold for about
$200. That is the real value I would use as a reference.

Ebay has transitioned to a lot of "Buy It Now" and "Best Offer" items
instead of auctions. Many are "new" knockoffs. I have found that the "Best
Offer" items can go for 20% or more below the asking price. The completed
listings won't tell what the selling price of those items were,
unfortunately. Ebay also has quite high fees when you include Ebay and
Paypal fees, but you do get some protections not found in private sales.

73,

Mark
W7MLG


On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:24 AM, K2bew  wrote:

> There is a big difference between what someone asks and what someone is
> willing to pay.
> There are overpriced things on eBay posted all the time by people trying to
> flip them just to make money.
> I shake my head many times over the prices I sometimes see things listed
> for.
> If your going that route just list it as an auction starting relatively low
> and let the market set the price.
> 73
> Tom
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:41 Chuck Milam, N9KY  wrote:
>
> > There's one listed on eBay right now for $399.95.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Charlie T]

A paddle keyer named  "HEX" ???

I thought you were asking about an Allen wrench.
C


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I paid $200 for mine new a few guests ago. Passed it to another CW op when I
purchased a real N2DAN Mercury paddle. 

I liked the Hex a lot.  Very stable and solid feel. 


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> On Jan 8, 2018, at 2:55 PM, "j...@kk9a.com" <j...@kk9a.com> wrote:
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> $1?
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> 
> Scott Manthe wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got 
> one in great shape that I'm considering selling.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott N9AA
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[K2bew]

There is a big difference between what someone asks and what someone is
willing to pay.
There are overpriced things on eBay posted all the time by people trying to
flip them just to make money.
I shake my head many times over the prices I sometimes see things listed
for.
If your going that route just list it as an auction starting relatively low
and let the market set the price.
73
Tom

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:41 Chuck Milam, N9KY  wrote:

> There's one listed on eBay right now for $399.95.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Chuck Milam, N9KY]

There's one listed on eBay right now for $399.95.

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On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Nr4c  wrote:

> I paid $200 for mine new a few guests ago. Passed it to another CW op when
> I purchased a real N2DAN Mercury paddle.
>
> I liked the Hex a lot.  Very stable and solid feel.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Jan 8, 2018, at 2:55 PM, "j...@kk9a.com"  wrote:
> >
> > $1?
> >
> > John KK9A
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott Manthe wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one
> > in great shape that I'm considering selling.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott N9AA
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Nr4c]

I paid $200 for mine new a few guests ago. Passed it to another CW op when I 
purchased a real N2DAN Mercury paddle. 

I liked the Hex a lot.  Very stable and solid feel. 


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> On Jan 8, 2018, at 2:55 PM, "j...@kk9a.com"  wrote:
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> $1?
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> 
> Scott Manthe wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one
> in great shape that I'm considering selling.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott N9AA
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Scott Manthe]

No worries, John! I should have been a little more specific. We see the 
world through our own eyes, which is the source of much confusion.


73,
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On 1/8/18 7:16 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

Sorry, I was not aware that you were referring to an Elecraft CW paddle. I
was not aware that they made these. To me a hex key is the same as an Allen
wrench which is inside an Elecraft envelope with every transceiver and
k-pod.

John KK9A



john wrote:
$1?

John KK9A



Scott Manthe wrote:

Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one
in great shape that I'm considering selling.

Thanks,

Scott N9AA



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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[john]

Sorry, I was not aware that you were referring to an Elecraft CW paddle. I
was not aware that they made these. To me a hex key is the same as an Allen
wrench which is inside an Elecraft envelope with every transceiver and
k-pod.

John KK9A



john wrote: 
$1?

John KK9A



Scott Manthe wrote:

Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one
in great shape that I'm considering selling.

Thanks,

Scott N9AA

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Merv Schweigert via Elecraft]

If it was binary it would be worth a lot more,  and work with the Elecraft
gear,  but being Hex it does not have much use these days.
Id be afraid of it casting a spell on my radio,  not going to put a Hex 
on mine.


Merv K9FD/KH6

$1?

John KK9A



Scott Manthe wrote:

Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one
in great shape that I'm considering selling.

Thanks,

Scott N9AA


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Charlie T]

Mine must be REAY valuable since the Elecraft logo is incorrectly
stamped upside down!
True collectors, stop salivating, it's NOT for sale.

(Shade of the "Inverted Jenny" USPS stamp..)

Chas


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>Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got 
>one in great shape that I'm considering selling.
>
>Thanks,
>Scott N9AA

Have you contacted the Elecraft Hex Key Collectors' Association (EHKCA)
website, or joined their e-mail list on QTH.net?

Frankly, run-of-the-mill garden-variety Elecraft hex keys seldom bring more
than a C-note, even when accompanied with the original Elecraft sales
receipts, owner's manuals, and authenticating certificates.  It's common
knowledge in the Elecraft hex key collector community that only low
serial-numbered hex keys with the winged Elecraft emblem bring top dollar or
trade.  If you are the lucky owner of one of those extremely-rare and
highly-desired beauties, announce details on the list I noted above or on
the "Classifieds" page of the EHKCA website.  You may be able to arrange
even trade for a new K3s/KPA1500/P3 combo!

Good luck!

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Mike Morrow]

>Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one 
>in great shape that I'm considering selling.
>
>Thanks,
>Scott N9AA

Have you contacted the Elecraft Hex Key Collectors' Association (EHKCA) 
website, or joined their e-mail list on QTH.net?

Frankly, run-of-the-mill garden-variety Elecraft hex keys seldom bring more 
than a C-note, even when accompanied with the original Elecraft sales receipts, 
owner's manuals, and authenticating certificates.  It's common knowledge in the 
Elecraft hex key collector community that only low serial-numbered hex keys 
with the winged Elecraft emblem bring top dollar or trade.  If you are the 
lucky owner of one of those extremely-rare and highly-desired beauties, 
announce details on the list I noted above or on the "Classifieds" page of the 
EHKCA website.  You may be able to arrange even trade for a new K3s/KPA1500/P3 
combo!

Good luck!

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[j...@kk9a.com]

$1?

John KK9A



Scott Manthe wrote:

Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one
in great shape that I'm considering selling.

Thanks,

Scott N9AA


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Charlie T]

39¢ ???
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Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one in
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Thanks,

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key worth?

[Scott Manthe]

Does anyone know what an Elecraft labeled Hex Key is worth? I've got one 
in great shape that I'm considering selling.


Thanks,

Scott N9AA

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[w7aqk]

Hi All,

I'm a bit late responding, but I haven't seen quite the answer I would have 
given.  So, here's my suggestion.


The "no skid" shelf liner stuff is good, but I've found a particular type 
that seems to work best.  It's actually the cheaper type.  At places like 
Walmart you will find several versions of this stuff.  The more expensive 
versions (although none of them are all that expensive) usually has a very 
simple pattern with small, rounded "bubbles" on top.  This liner won't move, 
but the top surface is too slick, and things on top may move around. 
Instead, go for the "cheap" stuff, which is thinner, and has an even tighter 
(and somewhat irregular) pattern.  I don't know how else to describe it, and 
that doesn't give you much to go on, but I almost always see it available at 
Walmart, and it is the lower priced option.  If I remember to I will check 
the stock number the next time I'm in Walmart.  It's also the same type and 
pattern I saw supplied quite often in small squares with some of the paddles 
that used to be offered as kits.  Anyway, this stuff won't typically slide 
around on whatever surface you put it on, and more importantly, things on 
top of it don't tend to slide around  much either.  I buy this stuff and cut 
it to shape for my dashboard to hold all sorts of things, including cell 
phones, etc.


That said, a paddle without much mass can be problematic no matter what you 
place it on--unless you actually fasten it down somehow.  That's one (of 
many) reasons I really like the Begali paddles, and other offerings as well 
such as the ones from Tony, N3ZN.  These paddles have a lot of mass, and 
that, to me, is critical.  To send properly with a paddle, it must be very 
stationary.  Rubber feet rarely do the job.  The surface contact just isn't 
sufficient.


Something I've thought about, but never tried, is using some of these small 
"super" magnets.  You could glue 4 of these down on your dashboard in the 
appropriate spots, and if necessary, add a small, thin steel plate to the 
bottom of your paddle.


Dave W7AQK 


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Don Wilhelm]

Ed,

Sorry, but yes that should have been Tony, N3ZN.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/16/2015 12:51 PM, Ed wrote:

Don,   didn't you mean, N3ZN?

Ed   K7AAT


-Original Message-

That worked well for me until I bought a paddle from K3ZN which has more
than enough weight on the base to keep it solid.

Don W3FPR




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[George K5KG via Elecraft]

Those rubbery little mats that keep a cell phone from slipping off a 
car's dashboard will keep a keyer paddle from walking around the desk.  
Never tried it with a keyer paddle on a dashboard, however!


73, George, K5KG

On 10/16/2015 12:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Adding to the plywood idea, for a really solid "no movement" key, 
drill holes in the plywood that match the feet on the paddles - so the 
paddle feet fit into the holes.
The real key to the solution is to extend the plywood out to the front 
of the paddles so that your hand rests on the plywood.  The paddles 
and your hand will always be in alignment, no matter where the plywood 
and paddle combination is placed on the desk.  Your hand secures the 
plywood and the plywood holds the paddle in place.


That worked well for me until I bought a paddle from K3ZN which has 
more than enough weight on the base to keep it solid.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/16/2015 11:25 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

I found my key moved around a bit much for me but had difficulty finding
something to make it sticky. I finally removed the feet and replaced 
them

with some 5 ply plywood used for model aircraft. You can find it at the
hobby stores and hardware stores. It is 1/4" thick. That provides a 
surface

to which the next layer adheres nicely.




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Ed via Elecraft]

Don,   didn't you mean, N3ZN?

Ed   K7AAT


-Original Message-

That worked well for me until I bought a paddle from K3ZN which has more
than enough weight on the base to keep it solid.

Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Bob McGraw - K4TAX]

A good point, often the feet on a paddle are hard rubber which offers 
little traction to the desk top.  As rubber ages it tends to harden as 
well.   Those with softer rubber feet and keeping those clean to prevent 
dirt and wax buildup are much more prone to stay put.


If you clean your your desk top with a furniture polish, the wax in the 
polish will eventually adhere to the feet and make them less effective 
in holding power.  I use 91% Isopropyl alcohol {found at the local 
pharmacy}  and a soft cloth to clean rubber parts.  All the black that 
rubs off is dead rubber.


If your key or paddle happens to have hard or rigid "plastic" 
feet. replace them with something elsenot plastic. Also 
I find may of the new silicone stick-on pads used to protect table tops 
get slick after a period of time.  Just like vehicle tires, softer 
rubber gets better traction.


73
Bob, K4TAX
 


On 10/16/2015 9:23 AM, dw wrote:

And it sits on soft rubber feet where many paddles today have small
plastic tabs glued on which are prone to slipping around.



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

FWIW,I use Lok-Tite Fun-Tak mounting putty from Home Depot.  Ir holds 
very well, but when peeled off my wood desk, it comes off cleanly and 
can be repositioned and reused.


73, Pete N4ZR
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For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 10/16/2015 10:23 AM, dw wrote:

I agree with the others on the moving paddle syndrome. :-]
Over the years, I've had a number of units with a 3 or 4 lbs base.
On the light extreme, I had a Schurr warbler that would slide off the
bench if you breathed on it!

The heavy ones are less prone to move around, but sometimes it happens.
I have a Begali Graciella Jr that I might be willing to part with.
It takes some serious adrenaline to make that baby move.

I set my paddles up to the closes contact distance as possible without
false keying.
For some strange reason, paddle contact noise really irritates me.
Was using a touch paddle on a 4 pound steel block for a while.
If you get the chance, check out the Kent paddle.
The plastic paddles on that unit are heavier than most...gives one a
really nice tactile sense.
And it sits on soft rubber feet where many paddles today have small
plastic tabs glued on which are prone to slipping around.
I'm using the Begali Simplex Basic with the cover over it these days
sitting on a non-skid pad.

May the Force be withyour finger tips!! :-D
N1BBR


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Jim Miller]

I found my key moved around a bit much for me but had difficulty finding
something to make it sticky. I finally removed the feet and replaced them
with some 5 ply plywood used for model aircraft. You can find it at the
hobby stores and hardware stores. It is 1/4" thick. That provides a surface
to which the next layer adheres nicely.

I then applied a thin layer of ordinary GE RTV silicone to the bottom of
those plywood feet with a credit card as a squeegee and sat the key on a
sheet of wax paper to make sure it sat flat. After letting it sit like that
for several hours I turned the key upside down and removed the wax paper to
make sure the whole surface had a chance to cure.

The result is my key is now nicely "sticky" and good for my use. I'm a
squeezer not a slapper.

YMMV

jim ab3cv

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR 
wrote:

> FWIW,I use Lok-Tite Fun-Tak mounting putty from Home Depot.  Ir holds very
> well, but when peeled off my wood desk, it comes off cleanly and can be
> repositioned and reused.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Download the new N1MM Logger+ at
> . Check
> out the Reverse Beacon Network at
> , now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 10/16/2015 10:23 AM, dw wrote:
>
>> I agree with the others on the moving paddle syndrome. :-]
>> Over the years, I've had a number of units with a 3 or 4 lbs base.
>> On the light extreme, I had a Schurr warbler that would slide off the
>> bench if you breathed on it!
>>
>> The heavy ones are less prone to move around, but sometimes it happens.
>> I have a Begali Graciella Jr that I might be willing to part with.
>> It takes some serious adrenaline to make that baby move.
>>
>> I set my paddles up to the closes contact distance as possible without
>> false keying.
>> For some strange reason, paddle contact noise really irritates me.
>> Was using a touch paddle on a 4 pound steel block for a while.
>> If you get the chance, check out the Kent paddle.
>> The plastic paddles on that unit are heavier than most...gives one a
>> really nice tactile sense.
>> And it sits on soft rubber feet where many paddles today have small
>> plastic tabs glued on which are prone to slipping around.
>> I'm using the Begali Simplex Basic with the cover over it these days
>> sitting on a non-skid pad.
>>
>> May the Force be withyour finger tips!! :-D
>> N1BBR
>>
>
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[dw]

I agree with the others on the moving paddle syndrome. :-]
Over the years, I've had a number of units with a 3 or 4 lbs base.
On the light extreme, I had a Schurr warbler that would slide off the
bench if you breathed on it!

The heavy ones are less prone to move around, but sometimes it happens.
I have a Begali Graciella Jr that I might be willing to part with.
It takes some serious adrenaline to make that baby move.

I set my paddles up to the closes contact distance as possible without
false keying.
For some strange reason, paddle contact noise really irritates me.
Was using a touch paddle on a 4 pound steel block for a while.
If you get the chance, check out the Kent paddle.
The plastic paddles on that unit are heavier than most...gives one a
really nice tactile sense.
And it sits on soft rubber feet where many paddles today have small
plastic tabs glued on which are prone to slipping around.
I'm using the Begali Simplex Basic with the cover over it these days
sitting on a non-skid pad.

May the Force be withyour finger tips!! :-D
N1BBR
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[KENT TRIMBLE]

Forced by college dormitory rules against nails in walls, a trip to a 
bookstore more than 50 years ago resulted in the absolute best material 
to keep paddles and keys from sliding on any surface.  Sold originally 
as white silly-putty-type stuff and called "Hold-it," today it goes by a 
variety of names and colors but the product is the same.  It is used to 
stick pictures and other items on walls without leaving marks.  You tear 
off a small hunk, stretch and knead it until the molecules are broken 
and the material is warm, soft, and pliable, and then put a small amount 
on the bottom of each foot or pad.  Even the heaviest fist cannot move a 
paddle thus endowed.  When you want to reposition the paddle, merely 
pick it up and place it where you want.  When it picks up enough dirt 
and lint over time, merely knead and stretch it again, and reapply.  
Makes no difference whether the feet are hard rubber, soft rubber, or 
plastic.  I still have about half what I bought at that bookstore in 
1963, and gave a hunk to a new CW operator just last month.  It is 
easily removed if you eventually sell the paddle.  I use it every 
Saturday morning in the basement of a local restaurant to anchor my 
paddle and Logikey K-5 on the urethane-surfaced dining tables while 
teaching two CW classes, not to mention Field Day, Special Events, merit 
badge courses, and general operating at home.  Great stuff that will 
outlive all of us.


73,

Kent  K9ZTV



On 10/16/2015 10:12 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
A good point, often the feet on a paddle are hard rubber which offers 
little traction to the desk top.  As rubber ages it tends to harden as 
well.   Those with softer rubber feet and keeping those clean to 
prevent dirt and wax buildup are much more prone to stay put.


If you clean your your desk top with a furniture polish, the wax in 
the polish will eventually adhere to the feet and make them less 
effective in holding power.  I use 91% Isopropyl alcohol {found at the 
local pharmacy}  and a soft cloth to clean rubber parts.  All the 
black that rubs off is dead rubber.


If your key or paddle happens to have hard or rigid "plastic" 
feet. replace them with something elsenot plastic. 
Also I find may of the new silicone stick-on pads used to protect 
table tops get slick after a period of time.  Just like vehicle tires, 
softer rubber gets better traction.


73
Bob, K4TAX




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Walter Underwood]

I don’t do CW, butI know that occupational therapists use Dycem non-slip 
material. It comes in thin sheets and thick mats. That stuff is really great.

http://www.rehabmart.com/category/Non-Slip_Plastic.htm 

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps=dycem+non-slip
 


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K6WRU
CM87wj
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> On Oct 16, 2015, at 7:23 AM, dw  wrote:
> 
> I agree with the others on the moving paddle syndrome. :-]
> Over the years, I've had a number of units with a 3 or 4 lbs base.
> On the light extreme, I had a Schurr warbler that would slide off the
> bench if you breathed on it!
> 
> The heavy ones are less prone to move around, but sometimes it happens.
> I have a Begali Graciella Jr that I might be willing to part with.
> It takes some serious adrenaline to make that baby move.
> 
> I set my paddles up to the closes contact distance as possible without
> false keying.
> For some strange reason, paddle contact noise really irritates me.
> Was using a touch paddle on a 4 pound steel block for a while.
> If you get the chance, check out the Kent paddle.
> The plastic paddles on that unit are heavier than most...gives one a
> really nice tactile sense.
> And it sits on soft rubber feet where many paddles today have small
> plastic tabs glued on which are prone to slipping around.
> I'm using the Begali Simplex Basic with the cover over it these days
> sitting on a non-skid pad.
> 
> May the Force be withyour finger tips!! :-D
> N1BBR
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Don Wilhelm]

Adding to the plywood idea, for a really solid "no movement" key, drill 
holes in the plywood that match the feet on the paddles - so the paddle 
feet fit into the holes.
The real key to the solution is to extend the plywood out to the front 
of the paddles so that your hand rests on the plywood.  The paddles and 
your hand will always be in alignment, no matter where the plywood and 
paddle combination is placed on the desk.  Your hand secures the plywood 
and the plywood holds the paddle in place.


That worked well for me until I bought a paddle from K3ZN which has more 
than enough weight on the base to keep it solid.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/16/2015 11:25 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

I found my key moved around a bit much for me but had difficulty finding
something to make it sticky. I finally removed the feet and replaced them
with some 5 ply plywood used for model aircraft. You can find it at the
hobby stores and hardware stores. It is 1/4" thick. That provides a surface
to which the next layer adheres nicely.




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Marc Veeneman]

While it's not as heavy as its older brother, the Mercury, the key is even more 
stable when it lies on a thin silicone sheet.  

If a silicone sheet, often used as gasket material, is not available, try 
snipping short lengths of silicone tape and placing one under each Hex Key 
foot.  

It works for me and the thinner sheets, 1 mm, allow the least side to side 
movement.

I hope this helps you, or your buyer.
-- 
Marc  W8SDG




> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:30 PM, KC6CNN  wrote:
> 
> I have a Special Edition Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 057. 
> This key is too light for my heavy hands. 
> I am offering it for sale or trade and wanted to give the Elecraft List
> first shot at it. 
> So Make a offer* OFF LIST* of either the amount you would pay or key you
> would want to trade.
> Thank you
> Gerald - KC6CNN
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> KC6CNN - Gerald
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Rick Tavan N6XI]

I bought some stuff called something like gooey, sticky pads, probably the
silicone material you're referring to. It is nearly impossible to move a
paddle sitting on these pads, even if you want to!

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Marc Veeneman  wrote:

> While it's not as heavy as its older brother, the Mercury, the key is even
> more stable when it lies on a thin silicone sheet.
>
> If a silicone sheet, often used as gasket material, is not available, try
> snipping short lengths of silicone tape and placing one under each Hex Key
> foot.
>
> It works for me and the thinner sheets, 1 mm, allow the least side to side
> movement.
>
> I hope this helps you, or your buyer.
> --
> Marc  W8SDG
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:30 PM, KC6CNN  wrote:
> >
> > I have a Special Edition Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 057.
> > This key is too light for my heavy hands.
> > I am offering it for sale or trade and wanted to give the Elecraft List
> > first shot at it.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[KC6CNN]

That's why I love my K8ra P5 big dog. 7 lbs. Solid brass key with rosewood
handles.
I was hoping to sell the Elecraft key. I have my P5 paddle and a Begali
Blade Straight key.

73's Gerald KC6CNN
On Oct 15, 2015 9:59 PM, "ac5p [via Elecraft]" <
ml-node+s365791n760914...@n2.nabble.com> wrote:

> Hard to imagine the big ugly(IMO) hex key being "too light" to stay in
> place?  It must be due to poor surface contact with the bottom of the foot
> pads.  The suggested methods should work well as should small squares of
> double faced mounting tape under the pads.
> Mike  AC5P
>
>
>  On Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
>
>
>  That's the stuff!  If is isn't gooey and sticky, yet does not leave
> residue, it's probably not silicone.
>
> Some pieces are sold as dashboard holders for GPS devices or cell phones,
> but they often have embossing or raised edges or some other impediment to
> full-on paddle holding power.  And some are just rubber or neoprene.  You
> want the real thing.
>
> It's also the stuff Elecraft are considering for KX3 feet, instead of
> neoprene.
> --
> Marc  W8SDG
>
>
> > On Oct 15, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Rick Tavan N6XI <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> >
> > I bought some stuff called something like gooey, sticky pads, probably
> the silicone material you're referring to. It is nearly impossible to move
> a paddle sitting on these pads, even if you want to!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > /Rick N6XI
> >
> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Marc Veeneman <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> >> While it's not as heavy as its older brother, the Mercury, the key is
> even more stable when it lies on a thin silicone sheet.
> >>
> >> If a silicone sheet, often used as gasket material, is not available,
> try snipping short lengths of silicone tape and placing one under each Hex
> Key foot.
> >>
> >> It works for me and the thinner sheets, 1 mm, allow the least side to
> side movement.
> >>
> >> I hope this helps you, or your buyer.
> >> --
> >> Marc  W8SDG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:30 PM, KC6CNN <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I have a Special Edition Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 057.
> >> > This key is too light for my heavy hands.
> >> > I am offering it for sale or trade and wanted to give the Elecraft
> List
> >> > first shot at it.
> >> > So Make a offer* OFF LIST* of either the amount you would pay or key
> you
> >> > would want to trade.
> >> > Thank you
> >> > Gerald - KC6CNN
> >> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[ac5p]

Hard to imagine the big ugly(IMO) hex key being "too light" to stay in place?  
It must be due to poor surface contact with the bottom of the foot pads.  The 
suggested methods should work well as should small squares of double faced 
mounting tape under the pads.  
Mike  AC5P   


 On Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43 PM, Marc Veeneman  
wrote:
   

 That's the stuff!  If is isn't gooey and sticky, yet does not leave residue, 
it's probably not silicone.

Some pieces are sold as dashboard holders for GPS devices or cell phones, but 
they often have embossing or raised edges or some other impediment to full-on 
paddle holding power.  And some are just rubber or neoprene.  You want the real 
thing.

It's also the stuff Elecraft are considering for KX3 feet, instead of neoprene.
-- 
Marc  W8SDG


> On Oct 15, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Rick Tavan N6XI  wrote:
> 
> I bought some stuff called something like gooey, sticky pads, probably the 
> silicone material you're referring to. It is nearly impossible to move a 
> paddle sitting on these pads, even if you want to!
> 
> 73,
> 
> /Rick N6XI
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Marc Veeneman  wrote:
>> While it's not as heavy as its older brother, the Mercury, the key is even 
>> more stable when it lies on a thin silicone sheet.
>> 
>> If a silicone sheet, often used as gasket material, is not available, try 
>> snipping short lengths of silicone tape and placing one under each Hex Key 
>> foot.
>> 
>> It works for me and the thinner sheets, 1 mm, allow the least side to side 
>> movement.
>> 
>> I hope this helps you, or your buyer.
>> --
>> Marc  W8SDG
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:30 PM, KC6CNN  wrote:
>> >
>> > I have a Special Edition Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 057.
>> > This key is too light for my heavy hands.
>> > I am offering it for sale or trade and wanted to give the Elecraft List
>> > first shot at it.
>> > So Make a offer* OFF LIST* of either the amount you would pay or key you
>> > would want to trade.
>> > Thank you
>> > Gerald - KC6CNN
>> >
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Marc Veeneman]

That's the stuff!  If is isn't gooey and sticky, yet does not leave residue, 
it's probably not silicone.

Some pieces are sold as dashboard holders for GPS devices or cell phones, but 
they often have embossing or raised edges or some other impediment to full-on 
paddle holding power.  And some are just rubber or neoprene.  You want the real 
thing.

It's also the stuff Elecraft are considering for KX3 feet, instead of neoprene.
-- 
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> On Oct 15, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Rick Tavan N6XI  wrote:
> 
> I bought some stuff called something like gooey, sticky pads, probably the 
> silicone material you're referring to. It is nearly impossible to move a 
> paddle sitting on these pads, even if you want to!
> 
> 73,
> 
> /Rick N6XI
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Marc Veeneman  wrote:
>> While it's not as heavy as its older brother, the Mercury, the key is even 
>> more stable when it lies on a thin silicone sheet.
>> 
>> If a silicone sheet, often used as gasket material, is not available, try 
>> snipping short lengths of silicone tape and placing one under each Hex Key 
>> foot.
>> 
>> It works for me and the thinner sheets, 1 mm, allow the least side to side 
>> movement.
>> 
>> I hope this helps you, or your buyer.
>> --
>> Marc  W8SDG
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:30 PM, KC6CNN  wrote:
>> >
>> > I have a Special Edition Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 057.
>> > This key is too light for my heavy hands.
>> > I am offering it for sale or trade and wanted to give the Elecraft List
>> > first shot at it.
>> > So Make a offer* OFF LIST* of either the amount you would pay or key you
>> > would want to trade.
>> > Thank you
>> > Gerald - KC6CNN
>> >
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Jim - KE8G]

I, too, am a pretty heavy handed cw buff and have found that you can use a 
piece shelf liner, the kind my XYL uses in the kitchen cabinets & drawers.  
Works fantastic.  Besides, it cleans up easily from any coffee spills!

73 de Jim - KE8G

 Chortek Bob via Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: 
> I found a thin piece of neoprene works just great to keep a key in place, 
> almost no matter how hard you bang on it!!!  It's like a mouse pad, only 
> thinner and not as large.  A mouse pad works great, too!
My Hex has not moved in over a year, hi!!!
Bob/AA6VB
  From: Rick Tavan N6XI <rta...@gmail.com>
 To: Marc Veeneman <mhv...@gmail.com> 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57
   
I bought some stuff called something like gooey, sticky pads, probably the
silicone material you're referring to. It is nearly impossible to move a
paddle sitting on these pads, even if you want to!

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Marc Veeneman <mhv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> While it's not as heavy as its older brother, the Mercury, the key is even
> more stable when it lies on a thin silicone sheet.
>
> If a silicone sheet, often used as gasket material, is not available, try
> snipping short lengths of silicone tape and placing one under each Hex Key
> foot.
>
> It works for me and the thinner sheets, 1 mm, allow the least side to side
> movement.
>
> I hope this helps you, or your buyer.
> --
> Marc  W8SDG
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:30 PM, KC6CNN <kc6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a Special Edition Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 057.
> > This key is too light for my heavy hands.
> > I am offering it for sale or trade and wanted to give the Elecraft List
> > first shot at it.
> > So Make a offer* OFF LIST* of either the amount you would pay or key you
> > would want to trade.
> > Thank you
> > Gerald - KC6CNN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > KC6CNN - Gerald
> > K2 # 5486
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[Chortek Bob via Elecraft]

I found a thin piece of neoprene works just great to keep a key in place, 
almost no matter how hard you bang on it!!!  It's like a mouse pad, only 
thinner and not as large.  A mouse pad works great, too!
My Hex has not moved in over a year, hi!!!
Bob/AA6VB
  From: Rick Tavan N6XI <rta...@gmail.com>
 To: Marc Veeneman <mhv...@gmail.com> 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57
   
I bought some stuff called something like gooey, sticky pads, probably the
silicone material you're referring to. It is nearly impossible to move a
paddle sitting on these pads, even if you want to!

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Marc Veeneman <mhv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> While it's not as heavy as its older brother, the Mercury, the key is even
> more stable when it lies on a thin silicone sheet.
>
> If a silicone sheet, often used as gasket material, is not available, try
> snipping short lengths of silicone tape and placing one under each Hex Key
> foot.
>
> It works for me and the thinner sheets, 1 mm, allow the least side to side
> movement.
>
> I hope this helps you, or your buyer.
> --
> Marc  W8SDG
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:30 PM, KC6CNN <kc6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a Special Edition Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 057.
> > This key is too light for my heavy hands.
> > I am offering it for sale or trade and wanted to give the Elecraft List
> > first shot at it.
> > So Make a offer* OFF LIST* of either the amount you would pay or key you
> > would want to trade.
> > Thank you
> > Gerald - KC6CNN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > KC6CNN - Gerald
> > K2 # 5486
> > K3 # 6294
> > KX3 # 757
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 57

[KC6CNN]

I have a Special Edition Elecraft Hex Key Serial # 057. 
This key is too light for my heavy hands. 
I am offering it for sale or trade and wanted to give the Elecraft List
first shot at it. 
So Make a offer* OFF LIST* of either the amount you would pay or key you
would want to trade.
Thank you
Gerald - KC6CNN





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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[KC6CNN]

Thank you all for your great responses. 
I tried most of them and they all work well. 
Hope to catch you all on the air. 
Thank you again and 73's
Gerald - KC6CNN



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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[KC6CNN]

I have been relearning to send CW again. I am using a Bencher/Elecraft Hex
Key Serial # E067.
It is a typical bencher key with a weight of 3 lbs 2 ounces. I guess I am
heavy handed and have been slapping that thing around the desk like a red
headed step child. lol. 
I went and looked for a heavy key and about fell off the chair to find that
the Bencher Hex is now selling for $325. 
Does anyone know how many of the Bencher/Elecraft keys were made?
I did find a heavy key, I ordered the K8RA Big Dog P5 key at 7 lbs. I hope
it stays put. 

Any suggestions about tips to help me send lighter and or the number of
Elecraft hex keys made I would appreciated it. 

Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[wb6rse1]

You don't need a heavier paddle. Just museum wax on each foot. Press into 
position. Your paddle will stay put and not leave any marks if you decide to 
pry it up.

73 - Steve WB6RSE


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Any suggestions about tips to help me send lighter and or the number of
Elecraft hex keys made I would appreciated it. 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

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On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 18:12:39 -0700 (PDT), KC6CNN wrote:

 I did find a heavy key, I ordered the K8RA Big Dog P5 key at 7 lbs. I hope
 it stays put. 

 Any suggestions about tips to help me send lighter and or the number of
 Elecraft hex keys made I would appreciated it. 

First, the desk surface must remain free of any waxes or dirt/dust, and the feet
must be clean and sticky.  If that doesn't work, do what I do.

I use hot glue.  It works great and can be removed if you decide to move the key
to a different position.  I would not recommend locking it down until you've
been back on CW for awhile, as your positioning preference may change,
especially if you progress in speed.  I've glued down both my paddle and my old
Speed-X hand key on the desk, and they work fine.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[Mike WA8BXN]

If its moving around, I might drill holes in a board that match the feet of
the key and set it down on into the holes. Bolt, glue, clamp the board down
to your table as you see fit. 

 

73 -Mike WA8BXN 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: KC6CNN 

Date: 8/17/2013 9:12:57 PM 

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 

Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key 

 

I have been relearning to send CW again. I am using a Bencher/Elecraft Hex 

Key Serial # E067. 

It is a typical bencher key with a weight of 3 lbs 2 ounces. I guess I am 

heavy handed and have been slapping that thing around the desk like a red 

headed step child. lol. 

I went and looked for a heavy key and about fell off the chair to find that 

the Bencher Hex is now selling for $325. 

Does anyone know how many of the Bencher/Elecraft keys were made? 

I did find a heavy key, I ordered the K8RA Big Dog P5 key at 7 lbs. I hope 

it stays put. 

 

Any suggestions about tips to help me send lighter and or the number of 

Elecraft hex keys made I would appreciated it. 

 

Thanks 

Gerald - KC6CNN 

 

 

 

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KC6CNN - Gerald 

K2 # 5486 

K3 # 6254 

KX3 # 757 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[Rick Tavan N6XI]

http://www.hdaccessory.com/servlet/the-1696/sticky-gummy-dashboard-mat/Detail

This and related products solve all my paddle jitter problems. Much
stickier than the rubber shelving liners I'd used in the past.

/Rick


On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, KC6CNN kc6...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been relearning to send CW again. I am using a Bencher/Elecraft Hex
 Key Serial # E067.
 It is a typical bencher key with a weight of 3 lbs 2 ounces. I guess I am
 heavy handed and have been slapping that thing around the desk like a red
 headed step child. lol.
 I went and looked for a heavy key and about fell off the chair to find that
 the Bencher Hex is now selling for $325.
 Does anyone know how many of the Bencher/Elecraft keys were made?
 I did find a heavy key, I ordered the K8RA Big Dog P5 key at 7 lbs. I hope
 it stays put.

 Any suggestions about tips to help me send lighter and or the number of
 Elecraft hex keys made I would appreciated it.

 Thanks
 Gerald - KC6CNN



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 K3 # 6254
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[mcduffie]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 19:30:01 -0700, Rick Tavan N6XI wrote:

 http://www.hdaccessory.com/servlet/the-1696/sticky-gummy-dashboard-mat/Detail
 
 This and related products solve all my paddle jitter problems. Much
 stickier than the rubber shelving liners I'd used in the past.

Good steer, Rick.  Same thing I use on the dash.  Just begin with clean surfaces
and don't move it around.  Cheap at WalMart, but they switched vendors and I
don't think the new ones are quite as good.  I'm holding an IC7000 on my desk
with one right now.  Never moves (inverted mobile mounting bracket on top of
non-slip pad on desk).

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[EricJ]

I switch between keys frequently using a variety of straight keys, bugs, 
cooties and paddles, sometimes during a QSO. It would be a royal pain to 
have any kind of permanent mounting. I have a couple of pieces of 
leather I got from a Tandy store years ago. Michael's also has nice 
pieces about 3x6 for a buck or two. Just lay the leather down on your 
desk and lay the key on top of it. It gives the key an elegant look, and 
the key stays put for either hand. The method is untested for left or 
right foot.


It wouldn't be a bad idea to reconsider technique including backing off 
the tension a little, and try to lighten up a bit. It shouldn't take 
brute force to hold a key in place.


Eric
KE6US
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[Richard McGaver]

ELECRAFT Hexkey  For Sale
Mint says it all
On QRZ.COM
$175.00 Shipped Continental US  Lower 48 Only
Contact me off list  NK9G @ WIdotRRdotCOM
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key for sale

[Doug Phillips]

I have an Elecraft Hex Key for sale 150.00 plus shipping, please 
contact me off list.  I love the key but I now have a ZN-9A and can only 
use one at a time ;-)

73, Doug W7RDP
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[Brett Howard]

The finger tabs on this keyer are they held by rivets or screws?  On my
other Bencher the finger tabs are held by rivets and the dit paddle is
getting loose which is a bit annoying.  Anyone have any tips on this or
info on the hex?

Thanks much gentlemen.

~Brett (KC7OTG)
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Screws I think, but very shallow socket heads.
73 de M0XDF / K3 #174, HexKey #375

On 03/03/2008 08:27, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
 The finger tabs on this keyer are they held by rivets or screws?  On my
 other Bencher the finger tabs are held by rivets and the dit paddle is
 getting loose which is a bit annoying.  Anyone have any tips on this or
 info on the hex?
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[Tom Childers, N5GE]

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:27:16 -0800, you wrote:

The finger tabs on this keyer are they held by rivets or screws?  On my
other Bencher the finger tabs are held by rivets and the dit paddle is
getting loose which is a bit annoying.  Anyone have any tips on this or
info on the hex?

Thanks much gentlemen.

~Brett (KC7OTG)

I have two Bencher paddles.  One is thirty years old and has screws.  The other
is about 20 years old and has rivets.  Neither of them have loose paddles and
the one with screws has never been tightened.

I'll bet if you contact Bencher and tell them about the loose paddle they'll fix
it for you.  I wouldn't be the least bit reluctant to get one with rivets.

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[AJSOENKE]

In a message dated 3/3/2008 12:28:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The finger tabs on this keyer are they held  by rivets or screws?  On my
other Bencher the finger tabs are held by  rivets and the dit paddle is
getting loose which is a bit annoying.   Anyone have any tips on this or
info on the hex?

Thanks much  gentlemen.

~Brett  (KC7OTG)
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex-Key feet

[Ken Kopp]

Hi Bob, others


From several replies I've come to wonder if there are

different feet used on different vintage HexKeys ...

I suspect Bencher buys them in bulk and maybe from 
different sources and they'd have little reason to be 
concerned with the firmness of the feet.


I've just compared the feet on my HexKey with the feet 
on one my BY paddles.  They're physically identical,

but of decidedly different hardness.  Perhaps it's simply
a function of aging of the rubber ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Hex Key

[Gilbert J Cross]

Many thanks to all that replied to my odd request for info.
Thanks go to: 4dgh,4nn,1rgb,0ve,0ukk,7pm,1euy and 3zvt. And of
course to any I may have missed.

Thanks again GilK8EAG
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