Re: [e-users] 4K display
On 6/22/21 10:07 PM, Peter Flynn wrote: On 22/06/2021 12:28, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote: I am considering buying a 3840x2180 display. I do not imagine it to be a problem for e, but I ask anyway... e itself should be OK, but a lot of applications software is not yet ready to obey the system settings for high resolutions. See my earlier message Sure. This is why I think using a 3840x2160 makes not big sense (for me). In fact, I would like to have 4 1920x1080 screens side by side. 4 "virtual screens" on the same physical screen... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] 4K display
I am considering buying a 3840x2180 display. I do not imagine it to be a problem for e, but I ask anyway... A good think would be to divide it in 4 "normal" screens, something like 4 virtual screens on 1 physical screen... Is there some way to do that ? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] 4K display
On 6/22/21 2:28 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:28:12 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I am considering buying a 3840x2180 display. I do not imagine it to be a problem for e, but I ask anyway... no reason it'd be a problem. A good think would be to divide it in 4 "normal" screens, something like 4 virtual screens on 1 physical screen... Is there some way to do that ? no. :) as the screen appears as one screen with one connector and one edid ... it's seen as one screen for e. Thank you :) ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to enlarge widgets on 4K display
On 6/24/21 5:12 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 00:07:23 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: Hello, I'm using the git head of efl and enlightenment on 4K display. For me, the widgets, especially settins widget, are very small fo me. But, font size are OK. Can I enlarge the widgets with any settings? 1. git efl/e or last releases (1.25 / 0.24)? 2. did you change font sizes instead of just changing the scaling in scale settings? 3. you can change sizes of many things - shelf sizes, scale factor. font sizes, base dpi for xsettings scaling etc. ... :) For me, I am not interested with more dpi, but for more square inches... ;) at the same dpis... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sound lowering after a few minutes
On 5/15/21 11:23 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 15 May 2021 08:09:52 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 5/14/21 5:52 PM, Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Pierre Couderc wrote: On a "standard" e system (using bullseye debian packages, so with e 0.23.1), the sound lowers regularly (100, then a few minutes later 80,..). I've never seen that, either with E from buster or bullseye. I've had the opposite, sound suddenly getting louder, when running older versions of Chromium/electron-based apps. But that hasn't happened for some years. BTW, if you're running bullseye you should have enlightenment 0.24.2, not 0.23.1. In february, it was 0.23.1, now it is 0.24.2 ;) I use e maybe a special way : with no session manager : I connect manually at logon, then I start e with startx Maybe some init made by session manager is missing...? that should have nothing to do with it. and your tty login is still a login session anyway... :) it's something else others don't see - and i don't know why. i suspect it's some floating point rounding like issue where something keeps getting some event, responding but setting value but then value is rounded and ends up rounding down and thus creeping lower over time. unless i can reproduce it i can't really find where that is as it'd take monitoring lots of things over a long period of time and dumping a lot of debug from all the pulse backend through to any gui parts etc. as i can't do much... i have to leave it up to you to get your hands dirty and figure it out. i'm sure it's annoying but i need to spend my time on other things i can work on and improve/fix/ etc. :) the TODO is big enough so i have plenty of other things to work on... :) I do not ask that anyone solves my own problems. I am not even sure this problem is linked with e. But thank you to feel guilty... ;) ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xerm behaviour on freebsd
On 5/7/21 9:44 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: hello On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:39 AM Fas Xmut via enlightenment-users wrote: When I do something in xterm within enlightenment environent on freebsd, sometimes the command reply shows a little information, and leaves the rest information in "cache", it needs me to type the enter key to show all results, which makes me very uncomfortable. Is it a bug? Can you fix it? I didn't encounter the same problem in other desktop environments for xterm. maybe not the answer you want, but try terminology instead of xterm :-) +1 Yo will never use xterm again... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sound lowering after a few minutes
On 5/14/21 5:52 PM, Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Pierre Couderc wrote: On a "standard" e system (using bullseye debian packages, so with e 0.23.1), the sound lowers regularly (100, then a few minutes later 80,..). I've never seen that, either with E from buster or bullseye. I've had the opposite, sound suddenly getting louder, when running older versions of Chromium/electron-based apps. But that hasn't happened for some years. BTW, if you're running bullseye you should have enlightenment 0.24.2, not 0.23.1. In february, it was 0.23.1, now it is 0.24.2 ;) I use e maybe a special way : with no session manager : I connect manually at logon, then I start e with startx Maybe some init made by session manager is missing...? ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sound lowering after a few minutes
On 5/17/21 11:54 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 17 May 2021 07:06:41 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 5/15/21 11:23 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 15 May 2021 08:09:52 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 5/14/21 5:52 PM, Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Pierre Couderc wrote: On a "standard" e system (using bullseye debian packages, so with e 0.23.1), the sound lowers regularly (100, then a few minutes later 80,..). I've never seen that, either with E from buster or bullseye. I've had the opposite, sound suddenly getting louder, when running older versions of Chromium/electron-based apps. But that hasn't happened for some years. BTW, if you're running bullseye you should have enlightenment 0.24.2, not 0.23.1. In february, it was 0.23.1, now it is 0.24.2 ;) I use e maybe a special way : with no session manager : I connect manually at logon, then I start e with startx Maybe some init made by session manager is missing...? that should have nothing to do with it. and your tty login is still a login session anyway... :) it's something else others don't see - and i don't know why. i suspect it's some floating point rounding like issue where something keeps getting some event, responding but setting value but then value is rounded and ends up rounding down and thus creeping lower over time. unless i can reproduce it i can't really find where that is as it'd take monitoring lots of things over a long period of time and dumping a lot of debug from all the pulse backend through to any gui parts etc. as i can't do much... i have to leave it up to you to get your hands dirty and figure it out. i'm sure it's annoying but i need to spend my time on other things i can work on and improve/fix/ etc. :) the TODO is big enough so i have plenty of other things to work on... :) I do not ask that anyone solves my own problems. I am not even sure this problem is linked with e. But thank you to feel guilty... ;) if you can provide me with some indicator of the issue like one of the suspicions above by throwing in lots of printfs in various layers and logging them and finding out what is up... i\ll happily discuss/help fix things. but i don't see it :( either way. Thank you... Yes, this is the way. And I am too much busy myself to do that now... For the moment I want to continue to think. Why am I alone with this problem ? I live with it. An with my not_a_bug https://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/message/35454255/ since much more than 5 years... i have color classes to do. working my way through that. my current test palette http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-60a23d1f2b2a97.99607036.png I like this palette... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sound lowering after a few minutes
On 2/9/21 10:08 PM, Al Poole wrote: Heard it mentioned the other day. Anyone? On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Pierre Couderc wrote: On a "standard" e system (using bullseye debian packages, so with e 0.23.1), the sound lowers regularly (100, then a few minutes later 80,..). I have muted any input device in "input" tab of the mixer (in case of potential feed back...) Am I alone ? is this a known problem..? Nobody as an idea about this point ? ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] efl on raspberry
I have a small application on a pi zero (with raspbian no network), which starts at power on and displays pdf pages on a video projector (based on poppler), in fact simply on the frame buffer. No full keyboard only a remote control with 4 directions keys.It works fine. As its appears I need a (very) small GUI, I think to efl. So, it there an simple interface efl->frame buffer. Or should I use wayland and then have the problem to interface my bitmaps provided by poppler to wayland in full screen...? Thanks for any proposal... PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Build problem on Raspbian
I have an error when building on raspbian with tag v1.25.1 /efl# ninja -C build ninja: Entering directory `build' [1/3482] Generating eolian_gen_eina_types.eot with a custom command FAILED: src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.h /usr/local/efl/build/src/bin/eolian/eolian_gen -S -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/eo -o h:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.h -o c:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.c -o d:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.d -e EO_API -gchd ../src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot Illegal instruction [2/3482] Generating eolian_gen_ecore_event_message_handler.eo with a custom command FAILED: src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.h /usr/local/efl/build/src/bin/eolian/eolian_gen -S -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/ecore -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/eo -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/efl/interfaces -o h:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.h -o c:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.c -o d:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.d -gchd ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo Illegal instruction ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed. Help ! PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] check...?
Thank you. It was too much simple for my complicated mind. Just "apt install check". I am red of shame... On 5/28/21 9:24 PM, Marcel Hollerbach wrote: Hi! libcheck is meant here. Am 28.05.2021 19:36 schrieb Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users : meson.build:577:2: ERROR: Dependency "check" not found, tried pkgconfig Mmm, check... I have checked many things What is this "check" ? I am building under raspbian. Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Building on rasbian (next)
On 5/30/21 9:41 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2021 13:00:47 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: It seems there are some problems building examples : Build ok on raspberry pi zero/ But meson script build did not detect my following errors : - no detect absence of neon : correct with -Dnative-arch-optimization=false - missing gettext : correct by installing it - errors dues to too small swap : augment it ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Sound lowering after a few minutes
On 5/14/21 10:27 AM, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote: On 2/9/21 10:08 PM, Al Poole wrote: Heard it mentioned the other day. Anyone? On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Pierre Couderc wrote: On a "standard" e system (using bullseye debian packages, so with e 0.23.1), the sound lowers regularly (100, then a few minutes later 80,..). I have muted any input device in "input" tab of the mixer (in case of potential feed back...) Am I alone ? is this a known problem..? It seems that since some days, this problem has disappeared, maybe since May 17, where enlightenment 0.24.2-6 was installed by debian package system thanks to enlightenment debian team. ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Build problem on Raspbian
Thank you, It is building ok 1419/3572... Yes ARM1176 is a bit old. But it is used by the Raspberry pi zero, which is one of the lowest cost full computer. When I need a small GUI and it is a pi zero with wifi, no keyboard no display, I use cppcms. But in this case I want the lowest cost and I do not need wifi, so efl is fine, with a 4 key keyboard. Cables are more expensive than the computer itself... On 5/29/21 1:07 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2021 06:32:05 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: try -Dnative-arch-optimization=false basically efl builds with neon (SIMD) optimizations by default because 99.9% of arm system that efl would run on have a neon vector unit (armv7 on always has this with the only exception i know of being the terga1 chip). you basically have a niche very very very old cpu (niche for where efl would run) thus... need to do the above. I have an error when building on raspbian with tag v1.25.1 /efl# ninja -C build ninja: Entering directory `build' [1/3482] Generating eolian_gen_eina_types.eot with a custom command FAILED: src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.h /usr/local/efl/build/src/bin/eolian/eolian_gen -S -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/eo -o h:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.h -o c:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.c -o d:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.d -e EO_API -gchd ../src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot Illegal instruction [2/3482] Generating eolian_gen_ecore_event_message_handler.eo with a custom command FAILED: src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.h /usr/local/efl/build/src/bin/eolian/eolian_gen -S -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/ecore -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/eo -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/efl/interfaces -o h:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.h -o c:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.c -o d:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.d -gchd ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo Illegal instruction ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed. Help ! PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Build problem on Raspbian
My personal rule is to know how to NOT use a tool I learnt that with USARTS. They could work with 6,7,8 bits. I learnt the hard way, NOT to use 6 or 7 bits. pi zero at 5$ is enough for my current needs... ;) (when it will finish to build 2165/3572...) On 5/29/21 6:39 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2021 17:58:04 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: and for you - you need that option... as the arm universe moved on from armv6 long ago.. :) the arm world is even now trying to drop 32bit entirely... latest arm core designs have no 32bit at all. 64bit only. so armv6 with no neon is quite ancient ... and yes - the pi zero does use this... it's cheap for a good reason. it's ancient :) Thank you, It is building ok 1419/3572... Yes ARM1176 is a bit old. But it is used by the Raspberry pi zero, which is one of the lowest cost full computer. When I need a small GUI and it is a pi zero with wifi, no keyboard no display, I use cppcms. But in this case I want the lowest cost and I do not need wifi, so efl is fine, with a 4 key keyboard. Cables are more expensive than the computer itself... On 5/29/21 1:07 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2021 06:32:05 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: try -Dnative-arch-optimization=false basically efl builds with neon (SIMD) optimizations by default because 99.9% of arm system that efl would run on have a neon vector unit (armv7 on always has this with the only exception i know of being the terga1 chip). you basically have a niche very very very old cpu (niche for where efl would run) thus... need to do the above. I have an error when building on raspbian with tag v1.25.1 /efl# ninja -C build ninja: Entering directory `build' [1/3482] Generating eolian_gen_eina_types.eot with a custom command FAILED: src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.h /usr/local/efl/build/src/bin/eolian/eolian_gen -S -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/eo -o h:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.h -o c:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.c -o d:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot.d -e EO_API -gchd ../src/lib/eo/eina_types.eot Illegal instruction [2/3482] Generating eolian_gen_ecore_event_message_handler.eo with a custom command FAILED: src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.h /usr/local/efl/build/src/bin/eolian/eolian_gen -S -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/ecore -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/eo -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib -I /usr/local/efl/src/lib/efl/interfaces -o h:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.h -o c:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.c -o d:/usr/local/efl/build/src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo.d -gchd ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_event_message_handler.eo Illegal instruction ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed. Help ! PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Building on rasbian (next)
It seems there are some problems building examples : efl# ninja -C build ninja: Entering directory `build' [1/382] Generating edje_cc_text.edc with a custom command FAILED: src/examples/edje/text.edj /usr/bin/env EFL_RUN_IN_TREE=1 /usr/local/efl/build/src/bin/edje/edje_cc -beta -fastcomp -id /usr/local/efl/src/examples/edje -fd /usr/local/efl/src/examples/edje -sd /usr/local/efl/src/examples/edje -vd /usr/local/efl/src/examples/edje -dd /usr/local/efl/src/examples/edje -md /usr/local/efl/src/examples/edje -td /usr/local/efl/src/examples/edje ../src/examples/edje/text.edc src/examples/edje/text.edj edje_cc: Critical. Creation of .mo from .po failed. [2/382] Compiling C object src/examples/emotion/emotion_generic_subtitle_example.p/emotion_generic_subtitle_example.c.o ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed. I had other errors which disapper by restarting the build but not this one... Thanks for any help. pC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] check...?
meson.build:577:2: ERROR: Dependency "check" not found, tried pkgconfig Mmm, check... I have checked many things What is this "check" ? I am building under raspbian. Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] efl on raspberry
On 5/26/21 5:00 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2021 16:50:17 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I have a small application on a pi zero (with raspbian no network), which starts at power on and displays pdf pages on a video projector (based on poppler), in fact simply on the frame buffer. No full keyboard only a remote control with 4 directions keys.It works fine. As its appears I need a (very) small GUI, I think to efl. So, it there an simple interface efl->frame buffer. Or should I use wayland and then have the problem to interface my bitmaps provided by poppler to wayland in full screen...? Thanks for any proposal... yes - efl apps will "just work" in the fb. build with the drm engine. they can also with with acceleration too if you have a working gl stack there. of course you are limited to a single window. there are catches... :) Thank you I try that on the pi zero ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Confusing meson_option edje-sound-and-video
option('edje-sound-and-video',
type : 'boolean',
value : true,
description : 'disable sound and video for edje'
)
I do not understand, does "true" enable or disable edje-sound-and-video ?
I suggest :
option('disable-edje-sound-and-video',
type : 'boolean',
value : true,
description : 'disable sound and video for edje'
)
OR
option('edje-sound-and-video',
type : 'boolean',
value : true,
description : 'enable sound and video for edje'
)
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Re: [e-users] Building on rasbian (next)
On 6/1/21 10:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 01:06:19 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: On 5/30/21 9:41 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2021 13:00:47 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: It seems there are some problems building examples : Build ok on raspberry pi zero/ But meson script build did not detect my following errors : - no detect absence of neon : correct with -Dnative-arch-optimization=false yes - it won't detect this because you could be cross-compiling on archA for archB. autodetect is the biggest complaint from packagers. they hate it and always complain so we stick to manual configuration. - missing gettext : correct by installing it fyi your report is the first time i have ever seen an error with msgfmt missing from anyone. it seems you have a rare setup. - errors dues to too small swap : augment it yeah. this is probably all you can do along with running almost nothing else if you can while doing the build. * Thank you very much ! ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] My screen is becoming black...
On 4/29/21 10:13 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:41:33 +0200 Pierre Couderc said: On 4/29/21 1:20 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 12:09:12 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 4/29/21 2:09 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:27:22 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I have checked "don't fade backlight in "composter"... I got soon this problem but do not remind the solution ! (using 0.24.2 by standard debian update) Help ! then your problem has something other than to do with fading of backlight on suspend/resume/logins/shutdown... perhaps the backlight is just fine and the screen is black but rendering is frozen? there is an intel driver bug that makes vsync timestamps go backwards. i put a detection block of code and workaround in efl git... This problem has occured 2 days ago. Now, I have found that Settings/screen/backlight/normal backlight was very low, and putting it at 100% gives me normal light. And it seems to remain. But why did it lower progressively.? I do not remind having ever gone in that "backlight" screen. (But who knows...?) I don't know. You don't have a backlight gadget on your shelf to control the backlight with when you need to later the brightness? No, thank you. I do not need that now... My internal rule is to not learn to use a tool when I am not sure I need it... ;) well you did ask about per-screen backlight controls. that is how you get them. otherwise standard brightness and dimmed brightness are global as 99%of usage is on a single screen laptop and even with multiple screens you probably want them all to automatically dim when idle to the same level and start up to the same level. Thank you. I did not think that standard brightness was identical on all screen... This is not the case on my computer. ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] My screen is becoming black...
On 4/29/21 2:09 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:27:22 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I have checked "don't fade backlight in "composter"... I got soon this problem but do not remind the solution ! (using 0.24.2 by standard debian update) Help ! then your problem has something other than to do with fading of backlight on suspend/resume/logins/shutdown... perhaps the backlight is just fine and the screen is black but rendering is frozen? there is an intel driver bug that makes vsync timestamps go backwards. i put a detection block of code and workaround in efl git... This problem has occured 2 days ago. Now, I have found that Settings/screen/backlight/normal backlight was very low, and putting it at 100% gives me normal light. And it seems to remain. But why did it lower progressively.? I do not remind having ever gone in that "backlight" screen. (But who knows...?) Let us suppose it was one more of my mistakes... Incidently, maybe this "Normal backlight" setting should been available for each screen instead of being global. ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] My screen is becoming black...
On 4/29/21 1:20 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 12:09:12 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 4/29/21 2:09 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:27:22 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I have checked "don't fade backlight in "composter"... I got soon this problem but do not remind the solution ! (using 0.24.2 by standard debian update) Help ! then your problem has something other than to do with fading of backlight on suspend/resume/logins/shutdown... perhaps the backlight is just fine and the screen is black but rendering is frozen? there is an intel driver bug that makes vsync timestamps go backwards. i put a detection block of code and workaround in efl git... This problem has occured 2 days ago. Now, I have found that Settings/screen/backlight/normal backlight was very low, and putting it at 100% gives me normal light. And it seems to remain. But why did it lower progressively.? I do not remind having ever gone in that "backlight" screen. (But who knows...?) I don't know. You don't have a backlight gadget on your shelf to control the backlight with when you need to later the brightness? No, thank you. I do not need that now... My internal rule is to not learn to use a tool when I am not sure I need it... ;) Let us suppose it was one more of my mistakes... Incidently, maybe this "Normal backlight" setting should been available for each screen instead of being global. If you put a backlight gadget on a shelf on each screen, then each screen is controllable separately with that gadget (if you have ddcutil installed for external monitor controls via DDC). Be aware - it seems at least newer ADM system have issues with this and lead to a kernel hang in the i2c driver that will lock up a cpu core in endless retries of some sort. Fine ! ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] My screen is becoming black...
I have checked "don't fade backlight in "composter"... I got soon this problem but do not remind the solution ! (using 0.24.2 by standard debian update) Help ! PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Linux Distro for Enlightenment
On 9/2/21 12:05 AM, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote: Hi, What distro would you suggest running on a laptop? Obviously, latest E is a must. Wawrzek I use debain : enlightenment debian team makes a fine job... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Unexpected scrollbar
I have a mysterious, unexpected scrollbar on right of my screen... How to get rid of it ? https://www.tolsupport.fr/download/shot-2021-10-02_09-26-52.jpg Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Unexpected scrollbar
On 10/2/21 5:54 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 09:38:14 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I have a mysterious, unexpected scrollbar on right of my screen... How to get rid of it ? https://www.tolsupport.fr/download/shot-2021-10-02_09-26-52.jpg Thanks i might think you have some desktop file icon place outside the screen area- move it back in to fix inside :) Yes : it is back inside now ;) Thank you again ! ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] How to "clear" a efl box ?
I have a box inside another box and want to remove it. I clear it with elm_box_clear(bx) but it remains on the screen. I suppose I should refresh something? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to "clear" a efl box ?
On 11/8/21 12:39 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 00:20:51 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I have a box inside another box and want to remove it. I clear it with elm_box_clear(bx) but it remains on the screen. I suppose I should refresh something? I don't know what you're doing exactly but elementary_test has a test for box clearing *box vert - keep pressing the next api function - test api 7 does the box clear) ... and it clears and works. there is nothing else to do - just clear it. no refresh needed. that's automatic on canvas state changes... Thank you, it is that i have a bug somewhere... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Why my e configuration is not saved ?
Or how should it be saved ? 1- I have a gadget just installed on the desktop, I move it to its final destination ; e is restarted : the gadget appears in its initial position instead of its final position. 2- I have an application at startup (settings,applications,startup). It opens now full screen (now, not when I did install it), how can I get it reduced, and store reduced state...? I correct all that kinds of things manually, but it is not saved... Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Why my e configuration is not saved ?
On 3/5/22 12:53, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Sat, 5 Mar 2022 07:18:09 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users
said:
Or how should it be saved ?
1- I have a gadget just installed on the desktop, I move it to its final
destination ; e is restarted : the gadget appears in its initial
position instead of its final position.
e saves this out pretty much soon after you move tyhe gadget around (the gadcon
will queue a save and a few seconds later this will get saved out). it goes
into the normal e.cfg file - you can have a look in it. e.g.
vieet ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg config
then look for
group "E_Config_Gadcon" struct {
group "clients" list {
group "E_Config_Gadcon_Client" struct {
value "name" string: "clock";
value "id" string: "clock.8";
value "geom.pos" int: 1298;
value "geom.size" int: 0;
value "geom.res" int: 0;
value "geom.pos_x" double: 0.12382812472244424;
value "geom.pos_y" double: 0.86319444863862032;
value "geom.size_w" double: 0.06992187444488849;
value "geom.size_h" double: 0.0694475283973;
value "state_info.seq" int: 0;
value "state_info.flags" int: 0;
value "style" string: "plain";
value "orient" int: 0;
value "autoscroll" uchar: 0;
value "resizable" uchar: 0;
}
}
value "name" string: "gadman";
value "id" int: 114;
value "zone" uint: 0;
}
that would be the desktop gadgets for zone 0 (screen 0 - whatever screen is
assigned to zone 0 depending on screen priority). that above is an example of a
clock gadget with a location and size. it certainly writes out the config
perfectly for me all the time (and has done so now for almost decades...)
unless you have a full filesytem or permission problems (and you should start
getting dialogs form e saying it has trouble writing out config then).
After many checks, whenever I move a gadget (pager in this case), then
exit e, I get various positions and sometimes I get :
group "E_Config_Gadcon_Client" struct {
value "name" string: "pager";
value "id" string: "pager.3";
value "geom.pos" int: 954;
value "geom.size" int: 0;
value "geom.res" int: 0;
value "geom.pos_x" double: 0.0;
value "geom.pos_y" double: 0.0;
value "geom.size_w" double: 0.0145835646298;
value "geom.size_h" double: 0.0037037037037037038450515;
value "state_info.seq" int: 0;
value "state_info.flags" int: 0;
value "style" string: "inset";
value "orient" int: 0;
value "autoscroll" uchar: 0;
value "resizable" uchar: 0;
}
In most cases, at restart of e, the gadget is not in the last position
before exit enligthenment. The problem occurs on mainly on pager.
In "most" cases, it is repetitive, and I am ready to make tests if it helps.
I use e 0.25.3 from debian team with 2 X screens.
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Re: [e-users] Problem with ibar 0.25.3
On 2/17/22 08:55, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote: When I did hoover over an icon of an ibar, for example the icon of terminology, I got the list of all terminology windows and I could click in it to select it. Now this list has disappeared even if it appears some (very ) rare times ! What do I miss ? am I alone with this problem ? See more here : https://www.tolsupport.fr/download/tmp.jpg The cursor is over the terminology icon, which is blinking. I expect the list of open terminology windows in order to be able to click in ... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Problem with ibar 0.25.3
Grazie, Davide, I switch to "software rendering", ed ora tutto é a posto ! On 2/18/22 08:07, Davide Andreoli wrote: I found that with software rendering the issue goes away, so it's something related to the GL backend ...and yes, sadly I'm using nvidia drivers :( Il giorno gio 17 feb 2022 alle ore 19:05 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users ha scritto: On 2/17/22 08:55, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote: > When I did hoover over an icon of an ibar, for example the icon of > terminology, I got the list of all terminology windows and I could > click in it to select it. Now this list has disappeared even if it > appears some (very ) rare times ! > > What do I miss ? am I alone with this problem ? > See more here : https://www.tolsupport.fr/download/tmp.jpg The cursor is over the terminology icon, which is blinking. I expect the list of open terminology windows in order to be able to click in ... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Problem with ibar 0.25.3
When I did hoover over an icon of an ibar, for example the icon of terminology, I got the list of all terminology windows and I could click in it to select it. Now this list has disappeared even if it appears some (very ) rare times ! What do I miss ? am I alone with this problem ? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Thank you for e25 !
After a bit of surprise(s), I am at ease in it now. (And even it repairs my old bug of "_" in terminology...). Then I have to decide if I prefer fashionable flat theme or good old themes... I must admit that I am old : I did write some day a "button" GUI (before Windows or e did exist...), our idea was to imitate a good old mechanical control panel... And now I see Simon ports good old themes to new e ! I shall see that. Even if usually after trying various themes, usually I come back more or less to default theme... Thanks to all. PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Problems with 2 screens
(with e 0.25.1 from debian) When trying : 1- screen setup : a- with 2 screens when trying to use "Rightof", the "right" screen becomes black b- restart e seems to solve the problem 2- after some time without using the computer, it crashes with the 2 screens black and no keyboard or mouse answering 3- after this crash, the "Rightof" parameter is lost and turns back to "clone" so to 1a state. ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] screen setup reset
On 2/3/22 20:47, Ross Vandegrift wrote: Hi Pierre, On Thu, Feb 03, 2022 at 10:27:52AM +0100, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote: e25.1 has arrived to me thanks to sid debian package. Well, honestly, I shall not say it is a catastrophe, even if I am not sure to like flat look...But I had to fully reinitialize my environment before being able to start see it running, removing all previous ~/.e* . Sorry for this - my laptop upgraded smoothly, except for some config related to an old module that I wasn't using anymore. But E handled that cleanly after one warning. Thank you, Ross, for your fine job on debian... I have some problems with 2 screens. See my other mail. So I had to declare again keyboard, shelves, and so on and everything And when it is not too bad, I arrive at mysterious bugs on 1 of my 2 screens. I am unable to remember how I did arrive to it and report it as a bug... So I would like to fully clear screen setup parameters and restart its configuration. My question is how to fully reset screen setup without fully reset all e parameters ? If you mean the "Screen Setup" in Settings, this should do it: 1) Exit E 2) rm ~/.e/e/config/standard/e_randr2.cfg 3) Start E Thank you. If you install libeet-bin, you can easily view/edit that config data. OK, I have installed it. But I have no idea what it is, how to start it and to use it. Can you point me on some documentation, or tutorial ...? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [Enlightenment-announce] Christmas releases!
On 2/4/22 04:11, gary wrote: , feels like a new car. Yes ! ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Problems with 2 screens
On 2/3/22 23:54, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote: (with e 0.25.1 from debian) When trying : 1- screen setup : a- with 2 screens when trying to use "Rightof", the "right" screen becomes black b- restart e seems to solve the problem 2- after some time without using the computer, it crashes with the 2 screens black and no keyboard or mouse answering 3- after this crash, the "Rightof" parameter is lost and turns back to "clone" so to 1a state. All problems seem to have disappeared, since clearing with : rm ~/.e/e/config/standard/e_randr2.cfg Now, as says Gary, I learn to drive the new car... And the first good news is that my problem of _ (underscore) not displayed has disappeared... ( https://phab.enlightenment.org/T2070 ) ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] screen setup reset
e25.1 has arrived to me thanks to sid debian package. Well, honestly, I shall not say it is a catastrophe, even if I am not sure to like flat look...But I had to fully reinitialize my environment before being able to start see it running, removing all previous ~/.e* . So I had to declare again keyboard, shelves, and so on and everything And when it is not too bad, I arrive at mysterious bugs on 1 of my 2 screens. I am unable to remember how I did arrive to it and report it as a bug... So I would like to fully clear screen setup parameters and restart its configuration. My question is how to fully reset screen setup without fully reset all e parameters ? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Ibar hovering
When I hover over an icon of an application in an ibar, I see a list of all instances of this application, and it is fine. But is it possible : 1 - to enlarge the size of this list (to help to differentiate various instances) ? 2- to mask some instances : particularly keep only the instances present of the current screen , and/or keep only the instances present but not visible on current screen ? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Lost in EFL Unified C API...
I have made a box including : show = efl_add(EFL_UI_TEXTBOX_CLASS, bx, efl_text_set(efl_added, "0"), efl_text_font_size_set(efl_added, 48), efl_pack(bx, efl_added)); It works fine but I want to center the text. 1- How to do ? 2- How should I have thinked to have found it myself without asking on the user list ? Thanks. PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Ibar hovering
On 4/8/22 12:00, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 09:50:42 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: When I hover over an icon of an application in an ibar, I see a list of all instances of this application, and it is fine. But is it possible : 1 - to enlarge the size of this list (to help to differentiate various instances) ? not in settings ... the default theme happens to define these icons to be at most 40x40 (scaled by scale factor). theme could make them bigger... 2- to mask some instances : particularly keep only the instances present of the current screen , and/or keep only the instances present but not visible on current screen ? no - no such setting. Thank you PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] efl and c++
Le 11/8/23 à 21:02, Carsten Haitzler a écrit :
On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 09:53:22 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users
said:
Is there a topic to introduce efl under C++.
I have a problem with "hello world" in Unified C API
If I compile
https://www.enlightenment.org/develop/tutorials/c/hello-world-gui.md
with C++ (linux), all is fine.
Il I had a thread, it fails with nothing displayed :
void start()
{
while(1)
{
sleep(1);
}
return;
}
//** main
***
EAPI_MAIN void
efl_main(void *data EINA_UNUSED, const Efl_Event *ev EINA_UNUSED)
{
_gui_setup();
thread wait(start);
^^^ this here blocks. the main loop can't run and proc ess events
OK, I understand that.
So cpp is not compatible /a priori/ with efl.
This is the first sense of my post. Is there some topic introducing what
can be used or not used ?
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Re: [e-users] efl and c++
All this because I wanted to try the EFL Unified C API...
But the good old loop works (or seems to wor= !) fine :
elm_main(int argc, char **argv)
{
_gui_setup();
thread wait(start);
elm_run();
wait.join();
return 0;
}
ELM_MAIN()
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Re: [e-users] Sound lowering after a few minutes
This problem has disappeared : maybe since 0.25... On 2/11/21 16:23, Pierre Couderc wrote: +1 ;) On 2/9/21 10:08 PM, Al Poole wrote: Heard it mentioned the other day. Anyone? On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Pierre Couderc wrote: On a "standard" e system (using bullseye debian packages, so with e 0.23.1), the sound lowers regularly (100, then a few minutes later 80,..). I have muted any input device in "input" tab of the mixer (in case of potential feed back...) Am I alone ? is this a known problem..? Thanks in advance PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Problem with backlight settings with 2 screens
in e 0.25.3 (installed from debian) When I start e, many times but not always, on the "second" screen, backlight is very low, I have to go in "Backlight Settings", change something then backlight turns back normal, the "something" could be changing Dim Backlight form 84 to 83, then applying.. It seems to me that the saving of the previous state is not correctly reloaded. I have some other bugs of this kind. Particularly, if I try to exit e, I have a crash (see crashdump.txt below). And it seems to me that these bugs are linked to the presence of 2 screens, the crash does not occurs with 1 screen. cf : https://www.couderc.eu/download/.e-crashdump.txt ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Problem with backlight settings with 2 screens
On 6/29/22 11:20, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:19:12 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: in e 0.25.3 (installed from debian) When I start e, many times but not always, on the "second" screen, backlight is very low, I have to go in "Backlight Settings", change something then backlight turns back normal, the "something" could be changing Dim Backlight form 84 to 83, then applying.. This can be a DDC backlight thing. Sometimes monitors when they are in the middle of changing modes don't respond to DDC backlight change messages. The backlight code does have some retry logic but it eventually gives up. If you don't use the DDC stuff this wouldn't happen. It's kind of iffy and your mileage varies based on who makes your monitor. OK, I disabble ddc ans I see what occurs... (Sorry, I have not answerd before because I was away, with olny 1 screen...) It seems to me that the saving of the previous state is not correctly reloaded. I have some other bugs of this kind. Particularly, if I try to exit e, I have a crash (see crashdump.txt below). And it seems to me that these bugs are linked to the presence of 2 screens, the crash does not occurs with 1 screen. cf : https://www.couderc.eu/download/.e-crashdump.txt hmm it's almost always in the desktop gadgets module (gadman); Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f90f3635b40 (LWP 7625) "enlightenment"): #0 0x7f90f5417932 in pause () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 #1 0x7f90f5418200 in () #at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 2 0x7f90dc12cab0 in () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/gadman/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.1/module.so etc. etc. ... try unload the gadman module? You don't have debug information so I can't say much other than "it seems to often complain about some crash starting in gadman". No idea which file, function or line to look at. OK, this is a "true" bug occuring at each e exit. How do I enable debug information...? And how do I "unload gadman module" ? ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Problem with backlight settings with 2 screens
On 7/9/22 09:00, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 07:24:59 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 6/29/22 11:20, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:19:12 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: in e 0.25.3 (installed from debian) When I start e, many times but not always, on the "second" screen, backlight is very low, I have to go in "Backlight Settings", change something then backlight turns back normal, the "something" could be changing Dim Backlight form 84 to 83, then applying.. This can be a DDC backlight thing. Sometimes monitors when they are in the middle of changing modes don't respond to DDC backlight change messages. The backlight code does have some retry logic but it eventually gives up. If you don't use the DDC stuff this wouldn't happen. It's kind of iffy and your mileage varies based on who makes your monitor. OK, I disabble ddc ans I see what occurs... No more problem for the moment since I have removed ddc... (Sorry, I have not answerd before because I was away, with olny 1 screen...) It seems to me that the saving of the previous state is not correctly reloaded. I have some other bugs of this kind. Particularly, if I try to exit e, I have a crash (see crashdump.txt below). And it seems to me that these bugs are linked to the presence of 2 screens, the crash does not occurs with 1 screen. cf : https://www.couderc.eu/download/.e-crashdump.txt hmm it's almost always in the desktop gadgets module (gadman); Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f90f3635b40 (LWP 7625) "enlightenment"): #0 0x7f90f5417932 in pause () at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 #1 0x7f90f5418200 in () #at /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 2 0x7f90dc12cab0 in () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/gadman/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.25.1/module.so etc. etc. ... try unload the gadman module? You don't have debug information so I can't say much other than "it seems to often complain about some crash starting in gadman". No idea which file, function or line to look at. OK, this is a "true" bug occuring at each e exit. How do I enable debug information...? you read the code, add printf's int he code you're interested in looking at what it's thinking and then read your ~/.e-log.log Sorry, I want to help by reporting errors, but I am not ready now to enter e code and debug it... And how do I "unload gadman module" ? settings -> extensions -> modules -> core -> gadgets ... press "unload" below. you wont have desktop gadgets anymore. :) Unloading gadmen removes the crash.But iy turns back when I load it again... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
When I hoover over a terminology icon in an ibar, I see all the instances of terminology, and I can click on the one I want to switch to. But when I hoover over a brave icon, the list of all instances does not appear, so I find no way to open one of them... Some exist and it is confirmed too as the border of the brave icon is blue, but I cannot access them... I have checked brave.desktop file but I see nothing special... I use brave from ubuntu snap. What do I miss? Thanks. PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
On 6/13/22 19:21, Carsten Haitzler wrote: you could add a StatrupWMClass as i mentioned to make it easier to match to brave-browser. you can change the name of the brave desktop file. brave-browser.desktop - this means e's fallbacks to using class name (brave-browser) as the desktop file name will work (this is intentional in standards). but it seems to me that brave somehow is making it hard to match a window to its desktop file. at least for you and your packages. the aur arch packages is just fine. Strange and interesting , I add : StartupWMClass=brave-browser to brave-browser.desktop And it is better, the result depends on "Don't show active windows" parameter of the ibar: If it is checked : nothing changes, the brave icon appears but instances are not shown. If I uncheck it, a second brave icon appears, and I can hower on it... see https://www.tolsupport.fr/download/ttt.jpg (It is not important you -and me - spend time on that, it is only I do not like these kinds of mistery...) ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
On 6/14/22 09:52, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 23:32:00 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 6/13/22 19:21, Carsten Haitzler wrote: you could add a StatrupWMClass as i mentioned to make it easier to match to brave-browser. you can change the name of the brave desktop file. brave-browser.desktop - this means e's fallbacks to using class name (brave-browser) as the desktop file name will work (this is intentional in standards). but it seems to me that brave somehow is making it hard to match a window to its desktop file. at least for you and your packages. the aur arch packages is just fine. Strange and interesting , I add : StartupWMClass=brave-browser to brave-browser.desktop And it is better, the result depends on "Don't show active windows" parameter of the ibar: it can find it then - as i said. whatever you have is a "poor install" that makes it pretty impossible to match up the desktop to the window unless the pid matches and i have a suspicion the pid does not match. If it is checked : nothing changes, the brave icon appears but instances are not shown. If I uncheck it, a second brave icon appears, and I can hower on it... this means the brave browser desktop file found is not the one that was added... you have 2 of them that are different. Yes, I find 2 identical files : brave-browser.desktop and browser.desktop (not reminding having created 2 files, but ) When I remove brave-browser.desktop, all becomes normal and the problem is solved ! So thank you very much. Do you think that the "missing line" : StartupWMClass=brave-browser is a bug I should report to brave developpers...? ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] What is this blue line ?
Great changes today : My 4k display worksi in 4k : it was limited to 1920x1080 before... I supose it is due to the fact that I got today libefl-all-dev (1.26.2-1+b2) and some other e packages... But a blue line has appeared at the right of the screen : see on screenshot ... here ---> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-62aba4ef7c5077.77664833.jpg What is this blue line...? ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] What is this blue line ?
On 6/17/22 11:13, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:36:47 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 6/17/22 02:35, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 23:50:59 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: Great changes today : My 4k display worksi in 4k : it was limited to 1920x1080 before... I supose it is due to the fact that I got today libefl-all-dev (1.26.2-1+b2) and some other e packages... resolution will have nothing to do with that at all. it's entirely dependent on the xserver and xrandr/driver support - all e does is provide configuration for that and tell x what to do. Thank you, it is certainly a coincidence. After many unsuccessful trials with xrandr, I had temporarily renounced to make work my 4k display more than 1920x1440. Today 840x2160 is available. Fine. I have changed nothing and I see no update of xserver or xrandr, but it may be an underlying library... Which changes the same day as efl... Not a problem anyway... But a blue line has appeared at the right of the screen : see on screenshot scrollbar for desktop icons - you have icons going off the bottom of your screen on the desktop. You nearly got it, it is a scrollbar but not of the ibars, but of the full "screen" : please compare the position of of the .jpg icon, and the TV folder when I scroll it : I didn't say ibar. desktop icons. icons on your desktop. not in the shelf. filemanager icons. files. move the directory icon further up so its not out of the view area and thus needs scrolling. the filemanager area will be limited by where shelves are - as you can see the scrollbar stops above the bottom shelf and previous screenshot it stops at the edge of the shelf. :) http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-62ac2d5ce38a94.12765611.jpg http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-62ac2dfb1bb7d1.03335607.jpg ..? Thank you, I never finish to discover e It is like a woman... (nearly...) ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] What is this blue line ?
On 6/17/22 02:35, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 23:50:59 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: Great changes today : My 4k display worksi in 4k : it was limited to 1920x1080 before... I supose it is due to the fact that I got today libefl-all-dev (1.26.2-1+b2) and some other e packages... resolution will have nothing to do with that at all. it's entirely dependent on the xserver and xrandr/driver support - all e does is provide configuration for that and tell x what to do. Thank you, it is certainly a coincidence. After many unsuccessful trials with xrandr, I had temporarily renounced to make work my 4k display more than 1920x1440. Today 840x2160 is available. Fine. I have changed nothing and I see no update of xserver or xrandr, but it may be an underlying library... Which changes the same day as efl... Not a problem anyway... But a blue line has appeared at the right of the screen : see on screenshot scrollbar for desktop icons - you have icons going off the bottom of your screen on the desktop. You nearly got it, it is a scrollbar but not of the ibars, but of the full "screen" : please compare the position of of the .jpg icon, and the TV folder when I scroll it : http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-62ac2d5ce38a94.12765611.jpg http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-62ac2dfb1bb7d1.03335607.jpg ..? ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
Thank you.
1- Maybe, I could help e by including some parameter in the
brave.desktop...?
In fact, I find 2 desktop files :
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8.2K May 24 17:56
/snap/brave/162/meta/gui/brave.desktop
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8.5K Jun 9 06:57
/var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/brave_brave.desktop
Maybe e does not find the good brave.desktop file ?
2- I note that the list of windows ("main menu", "windows") includes the
brave windows with the correct icon and the correct window titles. Why
windows display finds a correct list and not ibar ? Is this not a bug...?
On 6/7/22 23:45, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 23:12:59 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users
said:
On 6/6/22 13:18, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 11:01:17 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users
said:
When I hoover over a terminology icon in an ibar, I see all the
instances of terminology, and I can click on the one I want to switch to.
But when I hoover over a brave icon, the list of all instances does not
appear, so I find no way to open one of them... Some exist and it is
confirmed too as the border of the brave icon is blue, but I cannot
access them...
I have checked brave.desktop file but I see nothing special... I use
brave from ubuntu snap.
What do I miss?
there is no way for e to match the .desktop file to the browser windows -
the wmclass is not listed in desktop file that the windows use. the
command/executable doesn't match the wm command property set on the window
etc. etc. - otherwise it's match it up. there is netwm_pid and the netwm
startup id properties but these are lost on the e side if you restart e (as
it tracks these in memory with an instance structure per process it e runs
until that process exits).
ok, sorry, I do not understand your answer very well, but why brave
windows do not appear in the ibar? I have found that they appears in the
list of the windows of the screen...
because ibar has to match the window with a .desktop file in ibar - if it can't
match this to a matching desktop file by properties on the window and in the
desktop file, it cant put it there. it works for chromium so i can only assume
brave puts different properties on its windows or in the desktop files so it
cant be matched.
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Re: [e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
On 6/6/22 13:18, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 11:01:17 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: When I hoover over a terminology icon in an ibar, I see all the instances of terminology, and I can click on the one I want to switch to. But when I hoover over a brave icon, the list of all instances does not appear, so I find no way to open one of them... Some exist and it is confirmed too as the border of the brave icon is blue, but I cannot access them... I have checked brave.desktop file but I see nothing special... I use brave from ubuntu snap. What do I miss? there is no way for e to match the .desktop file to the browser windows - the wmclass is not listed in desktop file that the windows use. the command/executable doesn't match the wm command property set on the window etc. etc. - otherwise it's match it up. there is netwm_pid and the netwm startup id properties but these are lost on the e side if you restart e (as it tracks these in memory with an instance structure per process it e runs until that process exits). ok, sorry, I do not understand your answer very well, but why brave windows do not appear in the ibar? I have found that they appears in the list of the windows of the screen... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
On 6/11/22 09:18, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote: And brave is not as critical for me as lxd. I shall find some solution without snap... It is not finished ! I have found a solution without snap, and The same problem occurs : Brave browser instances are not displayed. Here is : /usr/share/applications/brave-browser.desktop : [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=Brave Web Browser GenericName=Web Browser (...) Exec=/usr/bin/brave-browser-stable %U StartupNotify=true Terminal=false Icon=brave-browser Type=Application Categories=Network;WebBrowser; MimeType=application/pdf;application/rdf+xml;application/rss+xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xhtml_xml;application/xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;image/webp;text/html;text/xml;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ipfs;x-scheme-handler/ipns; Actions=new-window;new-private-window; [Desktop Action new-window] Name=New Window (...) Exec=/usr/bin/brave-browser-stable [Desktop Action new-private-window] Name=New Incognito Window (...) Exec=/usr/bin/brave-browser-stable --incognito xprop : _E_FRAME_SIZE(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 27, 6 _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 27, 6 __E_WINDOW_MAPPED(CARDINAL) = 1 WM_STATE(WM_STATE): window state: Normal icon window: 0x0 __E_ATOM_DESKTOP_FILE(UTF8_STRING) = "/usr/share/applications/chromium.desktop" E_ZONE_GEOMETRY(CARDINAL) = 1920, 0, 1920, 1080 __E_WINDOW_ZONE(CARDINAL) = 1 __E_WINDOW_MANAGED(CARDINAL) = 1 __E_WINDOW_DESK(CARDINAL) = 0, 0 _NET_WM_USER_TIME(CARDINAL) = 2631636 WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS): program specified location: 2327, 99 program specified minimum size: 469 by 98 _MOTIF_WM_HINTS(_MOTIF_WM_HINTS) = 0x2, 0x0, 0x1, 0x0, 0x0 WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "e-62a1a5baaf52d7.99395434.png (2560×1440) - Chromium" _NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "e-62a1a5baaf52d7.99395434.png (2560×1440) - Chromium" XdndAware(ATOM) = BITMAP _NET_WM_ICON(CARDINAL) = Icon (128 x 128): (...) _NET_WM_BYPASS_COMPOSITOR(CARDINAL) = 2 WM_WINDOW_ROLE(STRING) = "browser" WM_CLASS(STRING) = "chromium", "Chromium" _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL _NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 2556 WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "pcouderc" WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols WM_DELETE_WINDOW, _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST ~ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
On 6/9/22 09:54, Carsten Haitzler wrote:On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 07:20:14 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users i can only imagine snap has done something odd. i have found snap to be nothing but pain. I thank you very much for your detailed explanation. I fully agree with you about snap : I hate it. Continuing trying to use snap for brave does not think a good solution. But I like brave, and lxd (which is magic and critical for me) and they are not available under debian... Moreover, I have renounced to ubuntu, when after an update the full telephone system (asterisk) of the company failed, gladly a saturday... So, I now I put each critical system (asterisk, mail...) in lxd containers,with quick restore solution in case of catastroph. But I am obliged to use well stable packaging system such as debian... lxd was available only under snap, it is changing now as it is becoming available (again) under debian now... And brave is not as critical for me as lxd. I shall find some solution without snap... Thank you again... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
On 6/13/22 11:30, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 08:10:03 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: well you can sere e thinks the app is chromium not brave: _ I am very, very, very sorry. It is a my mistake : _VARIABLE_REFRESH(CARDINAL) = 1 __E_WINDOW_MAPPED(CARDINAL) = 1 WM_STATE(WM_STATE): window state: Normal icon window: 0x0 E_ZONE_GEOMETRY(CARDINAL) = 1920, 0, 1920, 1080 __E_WINDOW_ZONE(CARDINAL) = 1 __E_WINDOW_MANAGED(CARDINAL) = 1 __E_WINDOW_DESK(CARDINAL) = 3, 0 _NET_WM_USER_TIME(CARDINAL) = 41852382 WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS): program specified location: 1905, 0 program specified minimum size: 499 by 140 _NET_WM_OPAQUE_REGION(CARDINAL) = 19, 10, 1775, 4, 15, 14, 1783, 1008 _GTK_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 15, 15, 10, 30 _MOTIF_WM_HINTS(_MOTIF_WM_HINTS) = 0x2, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0 WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "Intranet TOL SA - Brave" _NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "Intranet TOL SA - Brave" XdndAware(ATOM) = BITMAP _NET_WM_ICON(CARDINAL) = Icon (128 x 128): (.) _NET_WM_BYPASS_COMPOSITOR(CARDINAL) = 2 _GTK_HIDE_TITLEBAR_WHEN_MAXIMIZED(CARDINAL) = 1 WM_WINDOW_ROLE(STRING) = "browser" WM_CLASS(STRING) = "brave-browser", "Brave-browser" _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL _NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 35092 WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "pcouderc" WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols WM_DELETE_WINDOW, _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST ~ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Miniview in terminology
I find it very useful, but... The area of the miniview covers the last columns of the text (for exemple in vim, I can see no more the line number...). Is it possible to change that ? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Miniview in terminology
On 8/31/22 09:52, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:12:19 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I find it very useful, but... it has to overlay something... Mmm, are you sure ? why not split the space, as when you "split V" ? At least it could be a user choice.. generally i think the idea was that you bring up miniview to get some context then hide it again when done. OK, I see. As I have 4K display, I have many terminology windows with enough space for permanent miniviews ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Frustrating clipboard.
If I copy data in the clipboard, then I close the application, then I try to paste, my clipboard has disappeared... Why ? How to keep the clipboard...? ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Frustrating clipboard.
On 10/2/22 19:37, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 07:48:29 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: If I copy data in the clipboard, then I close the application, then I try to paste, my clipboard has disappeared... Why ? How to keep the clipboard...? this is normal in x - copy & paste is a transaction between 2 clients. "copy" or "cut" simply has the source app own the selection - it says it owns it. when you paste the target app you paste in then requests the data from the source app (they negotiate a common format) then the data is transferred. if the original app is gone - this transaction cannot take place as the selection owner is gone and no negotiation and transfer can happen.n this has been x11 selections (and wayland too) ever since day 0. you could try a clipboard manager that basically pasts to itself whenever it sees a new selection owner and then stores this... and it becomes the selection owner... Thank you very much for the explanation. So I have tried diodon, but it does not work. Do someone use a clipboard manager and can someone suggest me one...? As a more general problem, is there a page giving a list of recommended program tested to be well working with e? I see the problem on another thread, a user wants to install e, but she needs too xorg. Sure it is normal. And she needs too to start dbus, it is dbus-x11 in debian... It is not simple nor basic to know that all this is necessary... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Frustrating clipboard.
On 10/6/22 03:10, Dave wrote: So I have tried diodon, but it does not work. Do someone use a clipboard manager and can someone suggest me one...? I use diodon on E25 and Debian bookworm. Works perfectly fine. Thank you very much. The point was the initialization, but following your instructions all is ok... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Brave browser instances lost in an ibar !
On 6/16/22 09:26, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 08:20:10 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 6/14/22 09:52, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 23:32:00 +0200 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: On 6/13/22 19:21, Carsten Haitzler wrote: you could add a StatrupWMClass as i mentioned to make it easier to match to brave-browser. you can change the name of the brave desktop file. brave-browser.desktop - this means e's fallbacks to using class name (brave-browser) as the desktop file name will work (this is intentional in standards). but it seems to me that brave somehow is making it hard to match a window to its desktop file. at least for you and your packages. the aur arch packages is just fine. Strange and interesting , I add : StartupWMClass=brave-browser to brave-browser.desktop And it is better, the result depends on "Don't show active windows" parameter of the ibar: it can find it then - as i said. whatever you have is a "poor install" that makes it pretty impossible to match up the desktop to the window unless the pid matches and i have a suspicion the pid does not match. If it is checked : nothing changes, the brave icon appears but instances are not shown. If I uncheck it, a second brave icon appears, and I can hower on it... this means the brave browser desktop file found is not the one that was added... you have 2 of them that are different. Yes, I find 2 identical files : brave-browser.desktop and browser.desktop (not reminding having created 2 files, but ) When I remove brave-browser.desktop, all becomes normal and the problem is solved ! So thank you very much. Do you think that the "missing line" : StartupWMClass=brave-browser is a bug I should report to brave developpers...? it's not a bug - but it helps. since one was browser.desktop then the base name "browser" isn't a sensible thing to match. you probably launched the browser.desktop copy and then e found the window matched brave-browser.desktop through wm class - as someone decided you ca just go renaming a desktop to browser.desktop without consequences - this had problems. so partly it's your fault for using one of the 2 desktops (the wrong one) then expecting everything to work right as well as someone providing the "wrong name" AND not providing a StartupWMClass field to be explicit in which windows this desktop file would match. the app itself (brave) is also not very helpful. the ONLY thing it provides that might be of use is the wm class property. the netwm pid is partly useful- unless you go wrapping things in scripts etc. which i suspect is happening and these scripts don't use exec at the end. better apps provide much more like _NET_STARTUP_ID which is far more accurate than any pid property as this allows a window to be tracked back to a specific launch of something. also providing WM_COMMAND would be helpful as then you have a command-line to try look up a binary with that's in a .desktop file. this isn't provided either. overall brave (and chromium) are not very helpful and provide so little information that if something like your situation happens with multiple desktop files of different names (one of which is poorly named browser.desktop) and not other stuff like StartupWMClass in the desktop .. then finding some way for a wm to go "this window is see here belongs to this desktop file i see over there" becomes hard or impossible. I am sorry I am not enough proficient to fully understand your explanation. Anyway, currently, I have only one /usr/share/applications/brave-browser.desktop, since months and every time there is an update of the browser, I have to add a line : StartupWMClass=brave-browser in it. I can live with it... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Mouse "blocked"
Here are my screens A and B : | | x | B | ___| | | | | | A |___| |__| y Sometimes, I do not know why, my mouse "goes" and remains blocked in x area ! (not y or any other area...) This occurs only since a few weeks maybe since 0.25, maybe since 0.25.4... and about twice a day. I have only found the solution to kill e, and so all apps. Is there a more subtle way to reset e without resetting all apps...? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mouse "blocked"
On 11/2/22 10:21, Michael Hughes wrote: On 11/2/22 4:35 AM, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote: Sometimes, I do not know why, my mouse "goes" and remains blocked in x area ! (not y or any other area...) This occurs only since a few weeks maybe since 0.25, maybe since 0.25.4... and about twice a day. I have only found the solution to kill e, and so all apps. Is there a more subtle way to reset e without resetting all apps...? Thanks PC Ctrl-Alt-End should reset the desktop without affecting the apps and normally restores the cursor. Wow: you save me... The problem I run into is that the cursor simply disappears. I think this likely involves running a dual-monitor system. In my case, dual monitor system too, I see the cursor locked on the up side of left or on the left side of right monitor...× Thank you very much ! ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] No instances in an IBar...
On 12/14/22 13:53, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:21:01 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: In debian, when I hoover on terminology (or anything else) icon in an IBar, I see all the instances of terminology. I have gone to arch, and I see no more these instances... What do I miss...? I don't know? i'm on arch and i get all those windows in the popup list... terminology, sylpheed, hexchat, chromium, thunderbird ... all of them show all the instances of these running OK, I should add that I did install with pacman, not own build... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] No instances in an IBar...
On 12/14/22 13:53, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:21:01 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: In debian, when I hoover on terminology (or anything else) icon in an IBar, I see all the instances of terminology. I have gone to arch, and I see no more these instances... What do I miss...? I don't know? i'm on arch and i get all those windows in the popup list... terminology, sylpheed, hexchat, chromium, thunderbird ... all of them show all the instances of these running After simple tests : With only one screen all is ok, whan I add a second screen (hot plug hdmi second screen), the probem occurs. ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to "enlarge" a window ?
On 11/8/22 11:21, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 10:11:08 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I use a Windows XP guest in qemu on e. I use a 4K monitor and my 800x600 XP windows is very very small, lost in the 4K monitor. I do not want to change my 800x600 size nor my monitor. But I would like to enlarge the XP window so that a XP pixel be mapped on 4 monitor pixels, or even if possible on 2 or 2.5 or 3 pixels. Is it possible with e or an application derived from e...? Thanks for any help ! no - e can't do it. because while the compositor can scale windows... e cant scale input coordinates like the mouse as input events go direct from xserver to app window and e is not involved. you'll need to use scaling inside qemu itself or some other mechanism (spice or other remote display) thus it can scale the input coords at the qemu or display level then Yes, spice is a good solution. ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] No instances in an IBar...
In debian, when I hoover on terminology (or anything else) icon in an IBar, I see all the instances of terminology. I have gone to arch, and I see no more these instances... What do I miss...? Thanks PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] How to debug bluetooth connect failure ?
Testing under rpi 4 with rasp os, I cannot connect a bluetooth device which usually (under amd64) works fine. The device is detected in bluetooth gadget but fails to connect without any message. How to debug this ? Thanks. PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to debug bluetooth connect failure ?
Le 01/12/2022 à 11:09, Carsten Haitzler a écrit : On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 08:04:50 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: Testing under rpi 4 with rasp os, I cannot connect a bluetooth device which usually (under amd64) works fine. The device is detected in bluetooth gadget but fails to connect without any message. How to debug this ? you could user bluetoothctl and on the cmdline try connect. also d-feet and use a gui to browse the dbus protocol and run methods like the connect one. you probably won't find the errors very useful though. Thank you... ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] After screen blanking, "no backlight"
Under e from rasp os on rpi 4: to get back normal backlight, I have to go to "backlight setting", change anything, and apply.Then at this momen normal backlight is applied. ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] How to "enlarge" a window ?
I use a Windows XP guest in qemu on e. I use a 4K monitor and my 800x600 XP windows is very very small, lost in the 4K monitor. I do not want to change my 800x600 size nor my monitor. But I would like to enlarge the XP window so that a XP pixel be mapped on 4 monitor pixels, or even if possible on 2 or 2.5 or 3 pixels. Is it possible with e or an application derived from e...? Thanks for any help ! PC ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to "enlarge" a window ?
On 11/8/22 11:21, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 10:11:08 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: I use a Windows XP guest in qemu on e. I use a 4K monitor and my 800x600 XP windows is very very small, lost in the 4K monitor. I do not want to change my 800x600 size nor my monitor. But I would like to enlarge the XP window so that a XP pixel be mapped on 4 monitor pixels, or even if possible on 2 or 2.5 or 3 pixels. Is it possible with e or an application derived from e...? Thanks for any help ! no - e can't do it. because while the compositor can scale windows... e cant scale input coordinates like the mouse as input events go direct from xserver to app window and e is not involved. you'll need to use scaling inside qemu itself or some other mechanism (spice or other remote display) thus it can scale the input coords at the qemu or display level then Thank you very much. There does not seem to be a solution with qemu itself, certainly with spice, maybe vnc ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Mouse "blocked"
On 11/2/22 11:53, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 09:35:56 +0100 Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users said: Here are my screens A and B : The true definition of my configuration is here : http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-63629994c4c2c8.58795230.jpg http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-63629a2dc1fe80.21857290.jpg The X area where the mouse is "blocked" is above EDP1 display. that shouldn't happen. can you try disabling any of the warp settings that move the mouse when focus changes? I am ready to do it, but I do not understand how to do that? ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] efl and c++
Is there a topic to introduce efl under C++.
I have a problem with "hello world" in Unified C API
If I compile
https://www.enlightenment.org/develop/tutorials/c/hello-world-gui.md
with C++ (linux), all is fine.
Il I had a thread, it fails with nothing displayed :
void start()
{
while(1)
{
sleep(1);
}
return;
}
//** main
***
EAPI_MAIN void
efl_main(void *data EINA_UNUSED, const Efl_Event *ev EINA_UNUSED)
{
_gui_setup();
thread wait(start);
wait.join();
}
EFL_MAIN()
Thanks.
PC
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