[lace] Teachers

2009-04-08 Thread Alex Stillwell
Dear Arachnids

I have also heard of teachers who show a technique quickly and say they cannot
do it slowly. We learn lacemaking with the left side of the brain that works
with speech and this transfers to the right side that does not. (Try
explaining how to ride a bike so that the person learning can do it
immediately, there is something you cannot put into words. The right side
works like a computer loop, so once you stop the sequence you cannot continue
from that point, you have to go back to the beginning. (Make a bow and,
without thinking about it beforehand have someone stop you in the middle, then
try to carry on). Also you cannot talk why you are using the right side of the
brain. (Again, try it tying a bow and giving a running commentary. The answer
is for the teacher to go to her book and learn to do the sequence as several
separate stages, with the words that go with them. Another way out is to show
the sequence and watch yourself doing it, then follow with the commentary.
Incidentally using the right side of the brain is euphoric - no wonder we
enjoy it. For more information about this subject read 'Drawing in the right
side of the brain', Betty Edwards.

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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[lace] designing/making lace

2009-04-08 Thread Catherine Barley
that my first few designs are real clunkers, duds, yuk.  But I don't let
myself be stopped by these failures.  I just keep slogging away at it
until, eventually, I get good at it.  I don't want anybody else to be
intimidated or think there is some kind of magic that people are born with.
Lorelei



My sentiments exactly!  I once had a student who said to me in class one day
Why doesn't my lace look like yours?  She was one of those students who
never even looked at her lace never mind worked it, between classes.  What
does one say without being unkind so I thought for a moment, and knowing
that she played a musical instrument I asked How often to you practise your
...?  Oh, every day she indignantly replied.  I said no more.



The famous golfer Gary Player was overheard saying to someone, when he hit a
brilliant shot and called him 'lucky', The harder I practise, the luckier I
get.



We were all complete beginners once and none of us were born with the skills
we have acquired over several decades.



Catherine Barley

Henley-on-Thames

UK

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Re: [lace] Teachers

2009-04-08 Thread Sister Claire
This reminds me of a student internship I once had. I was a dorm counselor
for blind, developmentally disabled young adults. One of my tasks was to
teach them to tie their shoes. What a challenge! No visual aids, obviously,
some of them did not have the concepts of left and right clear, and their
attention spans were limited. I didn't teach anyone to make a bow, but a few
did learn to do the left over right, tuck under and pull.

Sr. Claire Edith

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 09:31, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.netwrote:

 Dear Arachnids

 I have also heard of teachers who show a technique quickly and say they
 cannot
 do it slowly. We learn lacemaking with the left side of the brain that
 works
 with speech and this transfers to the right side that does not. (Try
 explaining how to ride a bike so that the person learning can do it
 immediately, there is something you cannot put into words. The right side
 works like a computer loop, so once you stop the sequence you cannot
 continue
 from that point, you have to go back to the beginning. (Make a bow and,
 without thinking about it beforehand have someone stop you in the middle,
 then
 try to carry on). Also you cannot talk why you are using the right side of
 the
 brain. (Again, try it tying a bow and giving a running commentary. The
 answer
 is for the teacher to go to her book and learn to do the sequence as
 several
 separate stages, with the words that go with them. Another way out is to
 show
 the sequence and watch yourself doing it, then follow with the commentary.
 Incidentally using the right side of the brain is euphoric - no wonder we
 enjoy it. For more information about this subject read 'Drawing in the
 right
 side of the brain', Betty Edwards.

 Happy lacemaking

 Alex

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Re: [lace] Old bobbins ... pewter

2009-04-08 Thread Brian Lemin
Certainly David is correct about what pewter will last.  The better the 
pewter the shorter it will last if not kept correctly.


I will have to research the catching degradation from and poor pewter 
bobbin.  As it stands, I do not see how a poor pewter can infect an intact 
pewter.  My chemistry was never very good at the best of times! :)


I will have to think who to ask abut this.






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Subject: Re: [lace] Old bobbins ... pewter


Since writing to you about this, I remembered that the 'warning' I had in 
my head came from David Springett who said that rotten pewter was pewter 
which had too much tin in it, and that a bad bobbin could damage a good 
one.

Clay

Brian Lemin wrote:
Although pewter degradation is often talked of in Human terms, I am 
pretty sure it is not catching!  It is a chemical process that starts 
when the pewter gets to certain temperature (I wrote an article about it 
many years ago but I have forgotten the details!... old age!)


I do remember the story that says that Napoleons army uniforms had pewter 
buttons and when the went to Russia in the freezing conditions there, the 
buttons disintegrated.







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Subject: Re: [lace] Old bobbins


Brian, I've got the warning in my head that if we have a rotten 
pewter bobbin, we should always keep it separate from any other pewter 
bobbins as they can contaminate the good pewter.   Thoughts?


Clay

Brian Lemin wrote:
The one warning that I would make is regarding bobbins that have pewter 
in them.  They must not be kept in any place where they might get very 
cold. If they do this will accelerate the process of pewter 
degradation.


For other bobbins, keep out of direct sunlight.
Avoid damp
Even temperature




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[lace] Lee Daly article

2009-04-08 Thread Catherine Barley
After seeing Alice's newpaper article of a few years ago, I thought you
might like to see the article about me and my laces done for a new local
website. I felt like I had been written up by Victoria magazine! The slide
show of my lace is very nice. Unfortunately, Vicki did not identify the
Halas lace and the Point de Gaze lappet that are Hungarian made and antique,
respectively. The rest is my work although not originals. Enjoy!
www.athomeinsussexcounty.com.





Exquisite Lee!  Clearly someone who has put in many, many hours of
'practise'!  Lovely to see some needlelace and did I recognise two framed
pieces of needlace there?



Catherine Barley

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[lace] Old bobbins - More about pewter

2009-04-08 Thread Laceandbits
Looking on Google to try and resolve this discussion, and to start with I
couldn't find any mention of pewter and cold.

First I looked at the various types of pewter and found that:-

Going back to the 15th century, by then it appears that by then there were
three 'recipes' of pewter regulated by the Guilds.  The first type, known as
fine metal was used for flatware. It consisted of tin with as much copper as
it
could absorb, which is about 1%. The second type, known as trifling metal or
trifle, was used for holloware. It is made up of fine metal with approximately
4% lead. The last type of pewter, known as lay or ley metal, was used for
items that weren't in contact with food or drink. It consisted of tin with 15%
lead.

And also:-
Pewter is an alloy composed primarily of tin with varying quantities of
hardening agents such as antimony, bismuth, copper and lead. It was used in
the
ancient world by the Egyptians, Romans and other civilisations and came into
extensive use in Europe in mediaeval times. Tin was alloyed with copper and
bismuth and the resulting metal, although now much harder than pure tin, still
possessed a low enough melting point to make it easy for casting.
Later, the ordinances of The Worshipful Company of Pewterers laid down the
composition of the pewter alloy, originally in two grades of fine and lay
metal.
Fine was used for sadware – plates, chargers, etc. – and for spoons and
ecclesiastical flagons whilst lay metal was used for hollow-ware – pots and
measures.
Lay metal contained a higher proportion of lead which was used as a low cost
bulking agent and help durability.

Oxidation was harder to find out about as it is mostly the term used to
describe the deliberate (or eventual by time) dark finish used as a patination
on
some pewter.  However I did find a reference to:-
Oxidation on pewter varies according the composition of the alloy and even
this composition can vary on individual pieces. Serious oxidation can eat
right
through the metal and eventually create holes,.

And finally:_
Although buying pewter so dull and tarnished that its complexion is similar
to that of a dirty blackboard usually has a happy outcome, one should be wary
of pieces that show signs of serious corrosion. This could be the result of
being stored in a place where it was damp, such as a cellar or a shed with a
leaking roof, or, if a plate, being used under a potted plant. Such corrosion
can
be so extensive that even after skilled treatment with an acid bath or by
buffing, the surface is badly pitted. There are likely to be fine pinholes,
too
where the corrosion has gone through the metal.

I now did a search for pewter and corrosion (the magic word) and struck
gold:-
Pewter should be kept in clean and not too humid surroundings. In a high
relative humidity the oxide film grows thicker and the corrosion accelerates
even
more when dust settles on the surface. Dust contains corrosive salts, which
keep the surface humidity high. The thick oxide layers can be seen on tin
coffin plates from damp and dusty crypts and old chapels. The superficial tin
oxide, which bears the inscription, can then easily flake off in thick layers.
Archaeological items of tin can be totally converted to oxides. From
archaeological marine sites it has been noted (2) that pewter containing some
proportion of
lead can survive under certain conditions. A special form of corrosion on the
insides of basins and ewers for baptising is caused by deposited calcium
carbonate (limestone). If kept damp the carbonate coated tin surface will
corrode.


There is another deterioration phenomenon that should occur in pure metallic
tin, and in tin with a limited amount of lead, at temperatures below 13°C.
The
metallic tin should change to a grey crystalline powder. This allotropic
structure change is normally referred to as tin pest and is described by
Hedges
(Hedges, E.S.: Tin and Its Alloys, Edward Arnold publishers Ltd, London, 1960,
pp 16-37, 50-72.). Proving the phenomena by analysis is however difficult,
because mostly tin oxide is detected. Deterioration seems to start locally in
spots or as lines where there is stress in the metal from bending or pressure.
The
attack is first seen as small volcano shaped craters opening on the metal
surface. This is because the change results in expansion. The produced powder
drops out of the craters, leaving holes.

The preservation of tin ware starts by keeping it in a clean, dry, indoor
climate above 13°C. Handle it with cotton gloves.

As our house it often below 13°C at night, and I don't intend to wear gloves
to make lace then my bobbins will have to take their chance.  I will do my
best to keep them dry VBG

Regarding the infectious nature of corrosion, I suppose it is possible that
if the corrosion was caused by salts, and the affected piece touches and
passes
them to another, then that piece could also corrode.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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RE: [lace] Teaching..eml

2009-04-08 Thread Nancy Nicholson
I have been reading these stories about teachers and students and now
designing!  How do you even begin to design?  Or is this something you think
about when you have more experience?  I have a good teacher/class but
unfortunately these are only evening classes so in the summer I have nothing.
She is a very good teacher with lots of patience (which is just as well for
me) and the students are in the main well behaved.  They have all been coming
to this class for years and a few do not need any help at all.  (I have never
heard any of them talk about designing though.)  If the teacher is busy with a
newbie a couple of them will go and help out someone else if needed.  When
hearing about some of your stories I am very lucky with my class.



Nancy



 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:01:00 +0100
 From: alan.d.br...@tesco.net
 To: lace@arachne.com
 Subject: [lace] Teaching..eml

 I used to try and encourage students to work out a pricking from a lace
 photograph, simple torchon to start with and then progress further when
 they had acquired more experience and design something themselves.
 When I started lace classes in 1976, Tordis Berndt had Maidment and
 the two Swedish books for us to use. The latter had photos, thread
 sizes and bobbin numbers, *but* no prickings! Having to make your own
 pricking from the photos, I feel made you learn more about how threads
 moved than just working a piece with full instructions.
 When the Book of Stitches arrived then the possiblities of different
 fillings etc. opened up new avenues. Sometimes, ideas for a change will
 occur when working a pattern, particularly in free lace designs i.e. to
 change a stitch, add colour etc. The confidence to do this should come
 with experience and a desire to spread one's wings and a willingness to
 break all the 'do-nots' that were there at the time of the lace revival
 in the '70s. Without this The Westhope Group,the 98 group, the use of copper
wire,
 coloured threads in traditionally white only patterns , etc.could not
 have come about.
 Personally I prefer to use graph paper for geometrical laces as I can
 envisage the movement of the threads better. Not being able to draw I
 will trace a shape I like, mix and match with other shapes and then
 think about the stitches which will give me the effect I'm looking for.
 As others have said we work and teach as individuals and the reward is
 when a student achieves the goals they have set themselves.

 Sheila in Sawbo' where it is sunny but a cool wind, hoping it will be dry in
the Peak District for Easter

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Re: [lace] Old bobbins - More about pewter

2009-04-08 Thread Brian Lemin
I have found a copy of my original article about pewter and degradation.  I 
find that it lacks the detail of Jacqui's research. Great stuff... thank 
you.


I do remember doing quite a lot of research and and members of Arachne 
contributed greatly to the discussion.  I think I just summarized our 
discussion and emphasized the key issues.  Here is the URL:


http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs/lb_pwtr.pdf





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Subject: [lace] Old bobbins - More about pewter



Looking on Google to try and resolve this discussion, and to start with I
couldn't find any mention of pewter and cold.

First I looked at the various types of pewter and found that:-

Going back to the 15th century, by then it appears that by then there 
were
three 'recipes' of pewter regulated by the Guilds.  The first type, known 
as
fine metal was used for flatware. It consisted of tin with as much copper 
as

it
could absorb, which is about 1%. The second type, known as trifling metal 
or
trifle, was used for holloware. It is made up of fine metal with 
approximately

4% lead. The last type of pewter, known as lay or ley metal, was used for
items that weren't in contact with food or drink. It consisted of tin with 
15%

lead.

And also:-
Pewter is an alloy composed primarily of tin with varying quantities of
hardening agents such as antimony, bismuth, copper and lead. It was used 
in

the
ancient world by the Egyptians, Romans and other civilisations and came 
into
extensive use in Europe in mediaeval times. Tin was alloyed with copper 
and
bismuth and the resulting metal, although now much harder than pure tin, 
still

possessed a low enough melting point to make it easy for casting.
Later, the ordinances of The Worshipful Company of Pewterers laid down the
composition of the pewter alloy, originally in two grades of fine and lay
metal.
Fine was used for sadware â? plates, chargers, etc. â? and for spoons 
and
ecclesiastical flagons whilst lay metal was used for hollow-ware â? pots 
and

measures.
Lay metal contained a higher proportion of lead which was used as a low 
cost

bulking agent and help durability.

Oxidation was harder to find out about as it is mostly the term used to
describe the deliberate (or eventual by time) dark finish used as a 
patination

on
some pewter.  However I did find a reference to:-
Oxidation on pewter varies according the composition of the alloy and 
even

this composition can vary on individual pieces. Serious oxidation can eat
right
through the metal and eventually create holes,.

And finally:_
Although buying pewter so dull and tarnished that its complexion is 
similar
to that of a dirty blackboard usually has a happy outcome, one should be 
wary
of pieces that show signs of serious corrosion. This could be the result 
of
being stored in a place where it was damp, such as a cellar or a shed with 
a
leaking roof, or, if a plate, being used under a potted plant. Such 
corrosion

can
be so extensive that even after skilled treatment with an acid bath or by
buffing, the surface is badly pitted. There are likely to be fine 
pinholes,

too
where the corrosion has gone through the metal.

I now did a search for pewter and corrosion (the magic word) and struck
gold:-
Pewter should be kept in clean and not too humid surroundings. In a high
relative humidity the oxide film grows thicker and the corrosion 
accelerates

even
more when dust settles on the surface. Dust contains corrosive salts, 
which

keep the surface humidity high. The thick oxide layers can be seen on tin
coffin plates from damp and dusty crypts and old chapels. The superficial 
tin
oxide, which bears the inscription, can then easily flake off in thick 
layers.

Archaeological items of tin can be totally converted to oxides. From
archaeological marine sites it has been noted (2) that pewter containing 
some

proportion of
lead can survive under certain conditions. A special form of corrosion on 
the

insides of basins and ewers for baptising is caused by deposited calcium
carbonate (limestone). If kept damp the carbonate coated tin surface will
corrode.


There is another deterioration phenomenon that should occur in pure 
metallic
tin, and in tin with a limited amount of lead, at temperatures below 
13°C.

The
metallic tin should change to a grey crystalline powder. This allotropic
structure change is normally referred to as tin pest and is described by
Hedges
(Hedges, E.S.: Tin and Its Alloys, Edward Arnold publishers Ltd, London, 
1960,

pp 16-37, 50-72.). Proving the phenomena by analysis is however difficult,
because mostly tin oxide is detected. Deterioration seems to start locally 
in
spots or as lines where there is stress in the metal from bending or 
pressure.

The
attack is first seen as small volcano shaped craters opening on the metal
surface. This is because the change results in expansion. The 

Fw: [lace] Lee Daly article

2009-04-08 Thread Sue

Lovely, and I liked the way she wrote it.  Real appreciation for the work.
Sue T, Dorset UK



After seeing Alice's newpaper article of a few years ago, I thought you
might like to see the article about me and my laces done for a new local
website. I felt like I had been written up by Victoria magazine! The slide
show of my lace is very nice. Unfortunately, Vicki did not identify the
Halas lace and the Point de Gaze lappet that are Hungarian made and 
antique,

respectively. The rest is my work although not originals. Enjoy!
www.athomeinsussexcounty.com.




Exquisite Lee!  Clearly someone who has put in many, many hours of
'practise'!  Lovely to see some needlelace and did I recognise two framed
pieces of needlace there?
Catherine Barley


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Re: [lace] Teaching..eml- designing

2009-04-08 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 4/8/2009 7:11:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
nancy.nichol...@hotmail.co.uk writes:

I have  been reading these stories about teachers and students and  now
designing!  How do you even begin to design?
This is a subject that I have been thinking about for some years, and no  one
would place me in a tier of design that is not amateur. My artistic talent
is non-existent. In fact, my sense of spatial relations is so poor that I
cannot  even draw a floor plan of the house I live in. But that should be
proof
that  designing is not something that requires a lot of visual talent, unless
you  want a spectacular result, of course. People who read the IOLI Bulletin
can  read the process that I used for the piece that was on the back cover. As
a
not  particularly good designer, I would offer the following ideas. One of my
first  designs was a panda bear fan. I had my daughter draw the Panda, since
she could  draw, although only 7 years old, and I cannot. I made him in a
narrow braid and  filled him in with grounds I knew or could cadge from the
book
of grounds.  Persons who are mathematically inclined use the lace design
programs with great  skill to design continuous type laces. I tend to use them
to
generate grids for  the most frequent kinds of fillings. Then with a scissor,
I
cut the grid to fit  in the area I want it to fit in and tape it in. In fact,
frequently, I simply  choose between the premade grids on
_http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/design.htm_
(http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/design.htm)
and print them with my computer on a card type paper from the computer supply
store and fool around on them.This is a very easy way to design. While you
work
 the piece, you will have a lot of time to think about how you could have
made it  more complicated. Then your next piece can be more complicated, and
you
can  develop even more theories while you work that.

Having taken free lace techniques such as Withof and Milanese allows  you to
draw a picture and make a piece of lace on it, once you understand the
techniques.

Jane Atkinson has taught and written a lot about modern design and her  ideas
are very inspiring. Taking a design class with her or others can be of  great
help.

Now, I find myself in a phase where I get some materials and I fool around
with them, often on the preprinted grid from the above lace site and see what
interesting effects can be derived from the materials. For instance, when you
combine different fibers and do different things with them, does something
magical emerge? Then you have to figure out how to optimize that effect and
try
 to make it into something.

Although I have been known to be able to take a picture of a known lace  from
the museum, and, with the help of graph paper, draw it out. I tend to still
do this by hand with tracing paper and graph paper, and counting the  threads
and stitiches in the original piece. I am somewhat intimidated by the  idea of
designing borders, etc., even with the software, possibly because I am  not a
specialist in most of these continuous laces.

A true artist, of course, would be able to counter positive and negative
space, and, using artistic design principles and color theory produce  a much
better product. I do keep coming up against the issue  of whether in lace
design,
technical proficiency or artistic ability is more  important. Historically,
it seems that the designers often designed, and  then the makers figured out
how to make the piece, so both talents did not have  to reside in the same
person.

Good luck,

Devon



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[lace] Re: Drawing on Right Side of Brain - was:Teachers

2009-04-08 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
Alex,
My art teacher in high school taught from this book and I thoroughly enjoyed
it.  I love blind contour drawing.  Now just wish I could do blind
lacemaking.  I might get a book read at the same time HAH.  Thanks for
mentioning that book.  Brought back good memories.

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman
blog: http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/
email: tatmant...@gmail.com



On 4/8/09 1:31 AM, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net wrote:

 Incidentally using the right side of the brain is euphoric - no wonder we
 enjoy it. For more information about this subject read 'Drawing in the right
 side of the brain', Betty Edwards.

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Re: [lace] designing/making lace

2009-04-08 Thread Clay Blackwell
The harder I practice, the luckier I get...  EXCELLENT!  Thanks for 
that one!


I also like the analogy with the violin.  You don't need to say more.

Clay

Catherine Barley wrote:

that my first few designs are real clunkers, duds, yuk.  But I don't let
myself be stopped by these failures.  I just keep slogging away at it
until, eventually, I get good at it.  I don't want anybody else to be
intimidated or think there is some kind of magic that people are born with.
Lorelei



My sentiments exactly!  I once had a student who said to me in class one day
Why doesn't my lace look like yours?  She was one of those students who
never even looked at her lace never mind worked it, between classes.  What
does one say without being unkind so I thought for a moment, and knowing
that she played a musical instrument I asked How often to you practise your
...?  Oh, every day she indignantly replied.  I said no more.



The famous golfer Gary Player was overheard saying to someone, when he hit a
brilliant shot and called him 'lucky', The harder I practise, the luckier I
get.



We were all complete beginners once and none of us were born with the skills
we have acquired over several decades.



Catherine Barley

Henley-on-Thames

UK

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[lace] Teachers

2009-04-08 Thread Alex Stillwell
Dear Arachnids

My answer to students who look at my lace and say they cannot do as well it
'When you have been making lace as long as I have, you will. I agree with
Cathy Barley about designing. My first attempt was at a 2-day course on
Macrame (before it became popular). At the end of the first day we were toled
to go away and design something. What me? I thought. As a maths/science
teacher I assumed that my ability to design was about as much as the top 1/4
inch of my little finger. I scoured the library and foun the only book on
macrame in the Essex library service and proceeded to try to copy one of the
pieces. The thread was the wrong thickness and much softer than the original
and after fudging to try to imitate the original I came up with something
looking so different you could not trace its parentage. Then I undersood what
is meant by your own design; if you cannot recognise its origin it's yours. I
have continued to practice designing and I can assure all lacemakers that it
is a right side of the brain activity. The reasons you think you cannot design
are 1. when you think about it you get no answer, 2 like riding a bike, you
have to practice to make it develop, 3. it takes courage and determination to
try something when you are not sure if you can do it and it may all be a waste
of time. Just have a go, you will probably be surprised.

Alex

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[lace] Designing

2009-04-08 Thread Alex Stillwell
Yes Sheila. Copying is a good way of getting started with designing. Start by
copying a pattern, then draft a pattern from lace or a photograph, then try
altering an existing pattern. It's a good progression and you can learn a lot
from looking at how the different components of a pttern work together.

Happy designing

Alex

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[lace] Re: Drawing on Right Side of Brain - was:Teachers

2009-04-08 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
Sherry meant for this to go to the lace list as well.  Her email below.

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman
blog: http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/
email: tatmant...@gmail.com


-- Forwarded Message
From: Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com

And since I am left handedI use the right side of my brain more than the
lefthave you ever noticed how many of our past presidents were left
handed. Being left handed myself I have a tendency to notice those things.
Even President Obama is left handed.
  Does being left handed make it easier to catch on how to do lace and other
things with my hands easier? What do you all think?
  Sherry
celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com

 

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[lace] misc.

2009-04-08 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  Snow--After last night's snow, we are now at 145 on the season, 
the 2nd snowiest in Erie, PA history.  Using bobbins with Pewter--Is anyone 
concerned about the lead content  potential contamination?  Just think of how 
we work.  Hands to bobbins, hands to push up glasses that have slipped, hands 
to scratch your nose, hands to grab a piece of chocolate.  Just asking??  Lace 
Fence--Thank you so much for posting the links.  WOW.  Beautiful, functional, 
not your grandma's chain link fence.  Susan, in Erie, where today's bright sun 
has melted last night's mini-blizzard, but authorities are still cleaning up 
all the crashes on I-90  I-79.

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[lace] designing

2009-04-08 Thread Janice Blair
Devon wrote:
People who read the IOLI Bulletin can  read the process that I used for the
piece that was on the back cover. As a not  particularly good designer, I
would offer the following ideas. 

This was the first article I read when the Bulletin arrived on Monday.  I know
that Devon always writes amusing and interesting articles.  Her simple piece
of wire lace made a chic display for the gallery in Chelsea, N.Y.  Did you put
a high price on the piece if the pieces were for sale?

I wonder if there is some way of welding the piece into a permanent knot.  I
also noticed that both ends looked good.  How did you manage to hide the
ending so well?

Like Devon I have played with pieces of paper to determine a design.  She used
hers to tie the knot to gauge the length of lace she needed.   I used paper
for a series of napkin rings I have been designing, usually for the IOLI
convention cd's that were given to charter guilds.  I would cut out the shape
and twist it around to see how and where I could join the ends so that they
would interlock but could be stored flat.  I go through lots of paper when I
am in design mode, but we are always planting more trees in our yard. :-)
Janice


Janice Blair

Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

www.jblace.com

http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: [lace] designing

2009-04-08 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 4/8/2009 2:09:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jbl...@sbcglobal.net writes:

Did you  put
a high price on the piece if the pieces were for  sale?
I put a price of $350 on it. I wasn't particularly interested in selling it
because I thought I might enter it in the employee art show at the Museum, if
we  have one this year. On the other hand, if someone wanted to pay $350 for
it, I  figured I could make something else. I looked at some of the other
pieces. Many  were not for sale. The highest price that I saw was $950 for an
art
work  composed of intricately manipulated fabric by an artist who sells her
work and  has written books about fabric manipulation.

I wonder  if there is some way of welding the piece into a permanent  knot.
This is somewhat hard, in that the wire is pretty flexible and I  don't  have
metal working skills. Definitely a design flaw that should be  considered in
future efforts. However, part of its charm is that it can assume  different
positions. Another problem is that whenever you really attach it  together,
you
lose the transparency and it begins to look like a muddle of  wire.

I
also noticed that both ends looked good.  How did you manage  to hide the
ending so well?
I worked around the bottom with the silver wire making a picot, and ended  in
the hole one spot upward from the end point. Because it was wire, you could
clip it rather close. Then, when I photographed it, I turned the side with
the little wire ends away from the camera. The pieces are accepted entirely
on
the basis of the photograph, so making the photograph look good is the most
important thing, although the piece could be rejected if it really didn't look
like the photograph. That is one thing that I really learned from this. The
photography is very important in entering art. If the piece is beautiful, but
the photograph doesn't do it justice, it is a big problem. The piece is in
silver and gold, and actually shines a great deal more in real life, than I
think you can tell from the picture. But it was really very difficult to
photograph.

Devon


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[lace] Holiday

2009-04-08 Thread Alan Sheila Brown
I won't be on line for the next 2 weeks , off climb hills(maybe) in The 
Peak District and then the Lace Guild Convention.

Sheila

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[lace] unsubscribe

2009-04-08 Thread Alan Sheila Brown

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[lace] Roller

2009-04-08 Thread ann.humphreys
I have a couple of yards of lace edging to make and I don't have a roller 
pillow.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to keep the worked lace neat and 
tidy apart from just folding it over? My DH is a dab hand at woodwork so 
could make something if he had a picture or a diagram.

Ann
UK 


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Re: [lace] Roller

2009-04-08 Thread Sue Babbs
I use a smooth, circular piece of wood, with holes drilled at each end for 
hat pins (or equivalent ) to go through and pin it to the pillow. Wind the 
lace around the wood as it is completed.


See:

http://www.smplace.co.uk/sfr_cat.htm

for a picture of the sort of thing I am talking about. They call it a lace 
roller, and it is under tools at the top of that page


Sue


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To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 3:28 PM
Subject: [lace] Roller


I have a couple of yards of lace edging to make and I don't have a roller 
pillow.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to keep the worked lace neat and 
tidy apart from just folding it over? My DH is a dab hand at woodwork so 
could make something if he had a picture or a diagram.

Ann
UK
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Re: [lace] Roller

2009-04-08 Thread Lenore English
If your husband works with wood, here is a link to plans to build a
little roller pillow/travel pillow:

http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/PillowsBobbins/PuertoRicanPillow.html

It didn't take him long to make it, and all I had to do was find some
wool and cover the roller.
I have enjoyed using it for edging, but it is a bit narrow and I can't
use more than 20 pairs.
I'm still a beginner, and I spend a lot of time untangling the
bobbins.  If your edging is too wide, it probably wouldn't work.

Good Luck,
Lenore in Michigan USA

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ann.humphr...@talktalk.net wrote:
 I have a couple of yards of lace edging to make and I don't have a roller
 pillow.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to keep the worked lace neat and
 tidy apart from just folding it over? My DH is a dab hand at woodwork so
 could make something if he had a picture or a diagram.
 Ann
 UK
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Re: [lace] Roller

2009-04-08 Thread Anne Nicholas

Hi Ann,

I have something that looks like a mini rolling pin that you wind the lace 
around.
I bought it many years ago at a lace day but sorry I can't remember who it 
was from


Hope this helps.

Anne Nicholas
Middx
England

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I have a couple of yards of lace edging to make and I don't have a roller

pillow.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to keep the worked lace neat and
tidy apart from just folding it over? My DH is a dab hand at woodwork so
could make something if he had a picture or a diagram.
Ann
UK

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[lace] roller

2009-04-08 Thread hottleco
How about an empty toilet paper/paper towel tube?  The cardboard is light 
weight  easy to pin to.  I use them for the crocheted cording for Romanian 
point lace.  Wonder if it would work for you as well?  Susan, Erie, PA

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Re: [lace] Roller

2009-04-08 Thread Agnes Boddington
How about a wooden roller? Put some holes through at either end to put 
divider pins through and pin to your pillow.

See: www.sixpennybobbins.co.uk/index.php?p=6
I am using one of these at teh moment for a long length of Beds. lace.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

ann.humphreys wrote:
I have a couple of yards of lace edging to make and I don't have a 
roller pillow.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to keep the worked 
lace neat and tidy apart from just folding it over? My DH is a dab 
hand at woodwork so could make something if he had a picture or a 
diagram.

Ann
UK
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Re: [lace] Re: Drawing on Right Side of Brain - was:Teachers

2009-04-08 Thread Sue Duckles
As a leftie also, I will say that I find it fairly easy to follow  
written instructions (unless it involves housework)  I like the  
message on Clay's sisters teeshirt too!  For those of you who are not  
left handed I say this.

Don't try to understand us, you'll never manage it. it's a left  
thing you know!

Sue in EY


 From: Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com

 And since I am left handedI use the right side of my brain more  
 than the
 lefthave you ever noticed how many of our past presidents were  
 left
 handed. Being left handed myself I have a tendency to notice those  
 things.
 Even President Obama is left handed.
   Does being left handed make it easier to catch on how to do lace  
 and other
 things with my hands easier? What do you all think?
   Sherry
 celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com

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[lace] threads for lace ed. 1 is now given away

2009-04-08 Thread bev walker
Hi everyone, and especially those who applied for my old copy of Threads for
Lace, edition 1.
I have sent it now to the next owner, and I thank everyone for writing who
expressed an interest in it.
I'm sorry I don't have one for each of you! I know you would all have
benefited.

To anyone not yet familiar with this splendid reference, check out Brenda's
site -
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/threads/threads.html

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] Teaching Lace

2009-04-08 Thread Jensen Marilyn
Thank you all for your wonderful reflections regarding teaching lace.  
I just finished my first teaching of beginner lace using Gillian Dye's  
Beginning Bobbin Lace book. I had 7 students, including one with  
macular degeneration and one that had had 2 strokes. I discovered that  
some students are happy just learning the bookworm (lady with 2  
strokes was very happy doing them and stopped coming when we moved on  
to the next bookmark); some are happy with just a plain cloth stitch  
bookworm without the extra spaces - twisted worker in the middle-(the  
gal with vision problems). These new students were very happy just  
taking their time with the projects and working at their own pace. I  
had thought we would get farther along in the book but with just 3  
lessons, they got just so far and were happy staying there and getting  
comfortable with the basic stitches. We formed a weekly group and  
named ourselves The Laughing Lacers of Whidbey Island. So now I have  
some people to lace with, which I could not find before! Marilyn  
Jensen, Whidbey Island, WA where there is a grey whale feeding in our  
backyard. (the Puget Sound)
PS Thanks for the answers to the question about stiffening lace! 


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[lace] Old bobbins - More about pewter

2009-04-08 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
That was very interesting about pewter.
I have an old wooden bobbin with pewter spots, - that is no longer nice to
use, as the pewter spots have expanded, and are very rough on the fingers, as
well as snagging on other threads.

I was told it was corroding pewter, which expands as it corrodes.

In the old days one Always had a leopard bobbin( wood with pewter spots) on
the pillow, to ward off arthritis.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] misc.

2009-04-08 Thread Clive Betty Rice
I figure I'll be hit by a bus before I get brain damage or die from the
lead in the pewter my bobbins contain!

Happy Lacemaking,
Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA who is back on line after a
battlefield tout of Middle Tennessee.

Apr 8, 2009 01:23:00 PM, hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote:

(snip) Using bobbins with Pewter--Is anyone concerned about the lead
content  potential contamination? Just think of how we work. Hands to
bobbins, hands to push up glasses that have slipped, hands to scratch
your nose, hands to grab a piece of chocolate. Just asking??

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