Re: PESO: A Ford for Ken

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/8/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower 
shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was 
shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should 
please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right 
up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few 
years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain 
shutter.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg

Excellent - that's a beautiful shot Paul. 




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Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/8/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

There were a bunch of teenagers there who had set up an inflatable
mini-tramp, and were running at top speed down the dune (half falling,
mostly out of control), then jumping onto the trampoline and into the
water.  They looked like they were having a great time, as were the
spectators.  I snapped a few, including this one:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg


Super shot mate.



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Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/8/05, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm in the street in SF, in a flea market.

Someone has an ME winder, in the box, for $6.

If anyone's interested, send me an email within 10-15', and I'll grab
it for you.

I thought I was bad enough connecting up now and then in my Land Rover
for a gander - you're on the street? Don't tell me, you can get a hotspot
on the back of your *ist D ??




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RE: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks, Don.

I aguess my answer to making bad shots is: The lens isn't good enough -
or - The AF is too slow.
The real reason is that I'm not careful enough to make shure the speed and
aperture is OK. Take a look at these. Click on the shots to examine my
descriptions:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/750389/

I took 200 shots and used only 28. Appr. 180 shots were unsharp or not
interesting enough to show anybody.

All 28 shots at: http://gallery47763.fotopic.net/c651819.html
pws: lellinge

Feel free to comment


A Tokina AT-X will be mine for appr. 700 Euro (870 USD) in Germany (EU: No
taxes):
http://tinyurl.com/cugh7

That's still a lot of money (sigh) for a 1-2 stops faster lens. But a little
cheaper than than the Sigma Telephoto 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO IF HSM: appr
1100 USD. (BH incl taxes). http://tinyurl.com/9yruf

I have found two version of a Pentax FA 2.8/80-200mm:
A black one and a silver one (power zoom). Both rather expensive.
The black one is sold at MP superstore for 1400 USD:
http://tinyurl.com/caeht
The silver power zoom (discontinued?) is listed locally at 5000 USD, which
is a totally ridiculous price.
http://tinyurl.com/bss3c

Well, I'm only dreaming, since I can't spend that kind of money at the
moment :-/

Look at this
Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 00:44
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom


Jens, I don't know about the others but I have an
ATX 80-200/2.8 manual focus and I love it.
Bokeh is a bit harsh like the other Tokinas but
all in all a superb lens.
Cost me $249.00 US in excellent condition, had to
get it cleaned for $66.00 but Adorama reimbursed
me for that.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:37 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom


 I use the SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6/70-210mm a lot.
 But it's often too slow.
 The FA 2.8 Pentax 80-200mm is almost three times as expensive as a similar
 Sigma lens.
 A Tokina 2.8 AT-X 80-200mm is only appr. 50% of the Sigma. This makes the
 Pentax lens is 6 times as expensive as the Tokina!
 Is it really worth this it?

 Jens Bladt
 Arkitekt MAA
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt






Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread John Forbes
Yes, I agree.  It has a sort of timeless quality; could almost have been  
taken in the 50s.


Mind you, it is Canada.  :-)

John

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 08:34:28 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 13/8/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:


There were a bunch of teenagers there who had set up an inflatable
mini-tramp, and were running at top speed down the dune (half falling,
mostly out of control), then jumping onto the trampoline and into the
water.  They looked like they were having a great time, as were the
spectators.  I snapped a few, including this one:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg



Super shot mate.



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Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Carlos Royo

Jens Bladt escribió:




A Tokina AT-X will be mine for appr. 700 Euro (870 USD) in Germany (EU: No
taxes):
http://tinyurl.com/cugh7

That's still a lot of money (sigh) for a 1-2 stops faster lens. But a little
cheaper than than the Sigma Telephoto 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO IF HSM: appr
1100 USD. (BH incl taxes). http://tinyurl.com/9yruf

I have found two version of a Pentax FA 2.8/80-200mm:
A black one and a silver one (power zoom). Both rather expensive.
The black one is sold at MP superstore for 1400 USD:
http://tinyurl.com/caeht
The silver power zoom (discontinued?) is listed locally at 5000 USD, which
is a totally ridiculous price.
http://tinyurl.com/bss3c



Jens, there isn't a black version of the FA* 80-200 2.8, the lens shown 
in MP's web site is an F 80-200 4.7-5.6
I have the FA* 80-200 mm. 2.8, and sold the F 70-210 4-5.6 when my wife 
gave me the 80-200 2.8 as a surprise birthday present.
It is a marvellous lens, but really heavy and bulky. If you purchase a 
2.8, whatever you buy (Tokina or Pentax), keep the F 70-210 for the days 
you don't want to carry around so much weight.
I have used the Tokina to take some snaps. It is well built, somewhat 
lighter than the Pentax, but I'm afraid that the Pentax is in a 
different league, it has much more contrast, it's sharper and has SMC 
coatings.
I'd say that the F 70-210 is also a better lens than the Tokina, 
although slower, of course.


Carlos



SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks, Carlos. (What a whife!)
I agree, the F 70-210 realy is a very good lens. Sometimes I just wish I had
the extra speed.
So, MP Superstore shows the wrong photo. They seem to be selling the FA 2.8
80-200mm for 1400 USD? That's a very attractive price. (It's listed here at
5000 USD !! I can't imagine anybody will pay this much.
A friend og mine purchased the Canon equivalent, the 2.8/80-200mm L-lens,
used for appr. 1000 USD. I'd would gladly pay that much for the 2.8 Pentax
zoom - that is if I had the money. Until then a Tokina may do the job.

Carlos - do you have any 2.8/80-200mm Pentax shots to show me (us)?

Regards
Jens Bladt



-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Carlos Royo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 11:00
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom


Jens Bladt escribió:



 A Tokina AT-X will be mine for appr. 700 Euro (870 USD) in Germany (EU: No
 taxes):
 http://tinyurl.com/cugh7

 That's still a lot of money (sigh) for a 1-2 stops faster lens. But a
little
 cheaper than than the Sigma Telephoto 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO IF HSM: appr
 1100 USD. (BH incl taxes). http://tinyurl.com/9yruf

 I have found two version of a Pentax FA 2.8/80-200mm:
 A black one and a silver one (power zoom). Both rather expensive.
 The black one is sold at MP superstore for 1400 USD:
 http://tinyurl.com/caeht
 The silver power zoom (discontinued?) is listed locally at 5000 USD, which
 is a totally ridiculous price.
 http://tinyurl.com/bss3c


Jens, there isn't a black version of the FA* 80-200 2.8, the lens shown
in MP's web site is an F 80-200 4.7-5.6
I have the FA* 80-200 mm. 2.8, and sold the F 70-210 4-5.6 when my wife
gave me the 80-200 2.8 as a surprise birthday present.
It is a marvellous lens, but really heavy and bulky. If you purchase a
2.8, whatever you buy (Tokina or Pentax), keep the F 70-210 for the days
you don't want to carry around so much weight.
I have used the Tokina to take some snaps. It is well built, somewhat
lighter than the Pentax, but I'm afraid that the Pentax is in a
different league, it has much more contrast, it's sharper and has SMC
coatings.
I'd say that the F 70-210 is also a better lens than the Tokina,
although slower, of course.

Carlos




Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread mike wilson

Jens Bladt wrote:

This sounds to me like a very good idea. I can certainly imagine myself
misplacing stuff all the time :-)
BTW: The ones I like best, judging from pics and description), among those
offered at ebay are:
The
Canon Eos vest
and the
Fotodiox vest (Deluxe Pro Photo Vest)

Jens Bladt


I've just come back from three weeks in Central Europe and wore the 
Domke vest most of the time.  It has a superfluity of pockets, is well 
made and is available in all sizes up to gigantic.  Net back to let the 
steam out when you are cruising around in 40degree heat.  Bought mine 
from BH for about 100Euro.


The only drawback is that it makes you look like either a dweeb or a 
pro.  So people stare and try to charge you pro rate for photo tickets. 
 Though maybe the former is not the fault of the jacket.


m





-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 13. august 2005 23:01
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Photo Vest


For me the lighter the vest the better. I'm using a 10 year old vest from
Eddie Bauer and find that the most important thing about using it is to
always place specific items in the same pockets so as to not have to fish
around looking for something in all the pockets, eg. unexposed rolls in a LH
pocket  exposed film in a similar pocket on the RH side.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Photo Vest




- Original Message -
From: Lewis Matthew
Subject: Re: Photo Vest





I have an old Banana Republic Photojournalist's Vest and an Eddie


Bauer


near copy. Both have plenty of pockets/dividers - perhaps to the geek
level.


My old vest, which my wife swiped from me is a nicer vest for 35mm sized
gear. The outside cargo pockets have a divider which allows two lenses per
pocket, and it keeps them seperated so they don't injure each other.
The Domke would be better for MF/LF as the cargo pockets are undivided and
so can carry bigger lenses or film holders, but the weight becomes a
terrible disadvantage with the larger equipment.
I don't really think vests are the way to go for MF/LF, which is fine, I


am


pretty sure Jens is not shooting that stuff anyway.
I could see the Domke being great for a videographer, or someone who is
shooting larger 35mm gear (Canon comes to mind) because of the bigger


cargo


pockets.

William Robb












Re: PESO: A Ford for Ken

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist

Thanks Cotty, and thanks to all who commented.
Paul
On Aug 14, 2005, at 3:31 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 13/8/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower
shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was
shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should
please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right
up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few
years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain
shutter.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg


Excellent - that's a beautiful shot Paul.




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  Cotty


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Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

The only drawback is that it makes you look like either a dweeb or a 
pro.  So people stare and try to charge you pro rate for photo tickets. 

Hi Mike,

What is a photo ticket?




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Re: PESO playground

2005-08-14 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks for the comments, Frank.  As far as the focal length, this was
taken with the lens at 7.8mm.  From the Pentax description .this
7.8mm-39mm lens offers a focal range covering angles of view
equivalent to those of a 37.5mm-187.5mm lens in 35mm format. 

On 8/13/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/11/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Crap.  Sorry.  It's late and I haven't had any beer.
  http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=151
 snip
 
 I like this one.  She just seems to be suspended between earth and sky
 - and a lovely sky it is, too!  Love the hills in the background, too.
  Nice choice of focal length.  There's something innocent and
 childlike about this that I can't articulate, but that I find very
 compelling.
 
 Well done!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 


-- 
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http://www.twosixteen.com

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Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Bill Owens
Several years ago I was able to pickup a Vivitar Series I 70-210/3.5.  Only 
1/2 stop slower that a 2.8 and $100.00.


Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:37 PM
Subject: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom



I use the SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6/70-210mm a lot.
But it's often too slow.
The FA 2.8 Pentax 80-200mm is almost three times as expensive as a similar
Sigma lens.
A Tokina 2.8 AT-X 80-200mm is only appr. 50% of the Sigma. This makes the
Pentax lens is 6 times as expensive as the Tokina!
Is it really worth this it?

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt








Re: SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Carlos Royo

Hi Jens:
I am afraid I can't show you any of my shots with the FA* 80-200 2.8, as 
so far I have been too lazy to invest some time and effort to look for 
an Internet server to exhibit some of my photos.
I also had the chance to play with the Sigma 70-200 2.8, it is 
slightly sharper than the Tokina, but the Tokina is better built. If you 
feel you need a 2.8 zoom, the Tokina is an excellent choice if you don't 
want to invest on a Pentax 80-200 2.8
By the way, although I recognize the Sigma Ex 70-200 2.8 looks, feels 
and performs as an excellent lens, I personally won't buy any Sigma 
lenses, unless my budget is too tight or I don't have other feasible 
alternatives. My experience with Sigma lenses hasn't been very 
encouraging in the past.


Carlos



RE: SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Don Sanderson
Agreed, I've done much better with Tamron and Tokina.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Carlos Royo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:59 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

snip
My experience with Sigma lenses hasn't been very 
encouraging in the past. 
snip

 Carlos
 



Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 14/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


The only drawback is that it makes you look like either a dweeb or a 
pro.  So people stare and try to charge you pro rate for photo tickets. 



Hi Mike,

What is a photo ticket?


In a lot of places now you have to pay extra to take photos.  You have 
to pay _a lot_ extra if you want to use the pictures professionally. One 
place I went in had a ticket for about £2, no time limit.  If you wanted 
a pro ticket, it was about 200Euro for 1.5 hours.







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Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson

Subject: Re: Photo Vest





In a lot of places now you have to pay extra to take photos.  You have to 
pay _a lot_ extra if you want to use the pictures professionally. One 
place I went in had a ticket for about £2, no time limit.  If you wanted a 
pro ticket, it was about 200Euro for 1.5 hours.




I can see a lot of pros buying Pentax to get around this sort of stuff.
HAR

William Robb 





Re: SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Carlos - do you have any 2.8/80-200mm Pentax shots to show me (us)?

I purchased a Tokina 80-200 AT-X Pro off a fellow list member. The results
were surpising, a little soft at 200mm but good results like this

http://www.wildcherry.com.au/index.php?p=galleryphoto_id=175
http://www.wildcherry.com.au/index.php?p=galleryphoto_id=173
http://www.wildcherry.com.au/index.php?p=galleryphoto_id=170

are achievable. The *istD I found to hunt a little and the autofocus not
true at this length, meaning often shots were out of focus. But with 
a little persistance a good mean manual focus can be found.

Kind regards
Kevin

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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Dario Bonazza

I only owned two Sigma lenses, hence I cannot speak generally about Sigmas.
However, the 70-210/3.5-4.5 APO Macro I owned for many years (before it was
stolen) was one of my best lenses ever (both mechanically and optically),
and my great appreciation for it was one of the two reasons because I
bought another Sigma lens last year (after using the SMC Pentax F
70-210/4-5.6 for some time).
As someone already knows, my second Sigma lens is the 70-210/2.8 EX
(bought at around $600 from Henry's in Canada).

The second reason for buying the Sigma f/2.8 EX has been it is reputed the
best lens in its class (according to MTF tests), together with the Minolta G
and outperforming Canon/Nikon/Pentax genuine zoom lenses of its kind,
not to speak of Tamron and Tokina.

Some pix here:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04/02barrich.jpg
http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04/08montoya.jpg
http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04/09montoya.jpg
http://www.dariobonazza.com/f1_04/13schum.jpg

http://www.dariobonazza.com/bodym04e.htm
http://www.dariobonazza.com/gianna04e.htm

http://www.dariobonazza.com/climb04e.htm

http://www.dariobonazza.com/bris04/bris21.jpg
http://www.dariobonazza.com/bris04/bris22.jpg

http://www.dariobonazza.com/pal04/pal02.jpg
http://www.dariobonazza.com/pal04/pal04.jpg
http://www.dariobonazza.com/pal04/pal11.jpg

http://www.dariobonazza.com/trig05/trig323.jpg
http://www.dariobonazza.com/trig05/trig327.jpg
http://www.dariobonazza.com/trig05/trig341.jpg

http://www.dariobonazza.com/enter05e.htm
http://www.dariobonazza.com/eth052e.htm (except two in the last row, taken
with the 50mm)
http://www.aohc.it/aohcgallery/gall10e.htm

The reason for replacing the Pentax was its slowness and its por
focusing performance with the D at 210mm. Yes, I know that many others here
don't think so, but this is my experience with more than one sample of above
Pentax lens. So I replaced it with the Sigma and I never regret of having
done so. Despite owning the Pentax, I've no longer used it lens since I
bought the Sigma, which I find to be a truly fantastic performer. If it only
had SMC on its optical surfaces, I'd probably think of it as the best lens
I've ever owned. Not featuring SMC, I'm unsure which is the best lens I own,
but the Sigma is still one of the candidates, maybe only challenged by the
SMC Pentax 50/1.4 in its A/FA incarnations.

YMMV, of course.

Dario Bonazza

- Original Message - 
From: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom



Hi Jens:
I am afraid I can't show you any of my shots with the FA* 80-200 2.8, as
so far I have been too lazy to invest some time and effort to look for an
Internet server to exhibit some of my photos.
I also had the chance to play with the Sigma 70-200 2.8, it is slightly
sharper than the Tokina, but the Tokina is better built. If you feel you
need a 2.8 zoom, the Tokina is an excellent choice if you don't want to
invest on a Pentax 80-200 2.8
By the way, although I recognize the Sigma Ex 70-200 2.8 looks, feels and
performs as an excellent lens, I personally won't buy any Sigma lenses,
unless my budget is too tight or I don't have other feasible alternatives.
My experience with Sigma lenses hasn't been very encouraging in the past.

Carlos





Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Juan Buhler
On 8/14/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought I was bad enough connecting up now and then in my Land Rover
 for a gander - you're on the street? Don't tell me, you can get a hotspot
 on the back of your *ist D ??

Yep,  the latest firmware update runs Firefox... the keyboard sucks though :)

I had the Powerbook in my bag, and stopped to eat a hotdog in the
park, so I checked for an open signal just in case anyone cared for
the winder. Nobody answered, btw.

j

-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I have to second that, these are fantastic lenses that can be had quiet 
inexpensively, though the difference is more like 2/3 stop.


Bill Owens wrote:

Several years ago I was able to pickup a Vivitar Series I 70-210/3.5.  
Only 1/2 stop slower that a 2.8 and $100.00.


Bill
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:37 PM
Subject: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom



I use the SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6/70-210mm a lot.
But it's often too slow.
The FA 2.8 Pentax 80-200mm is almost three times as expensive as a 
similar

Sigma lens.
A Tokina 2.8 AT-X 80-200mm is only appr. 50% of the Sigma. This makes 
the

Pentax lens is 6 times as expensive as the Tokina!
Is it really worth this it?

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt










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Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread mike wilson

William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: mike wilson
Subject: Re: Photo Vest





In a lot of places now you have to pay extra to take photos.  You have 
to pay _a lot_ extra if you want to use the pictures professionally. 
One place I went in had a ticket for about £2, no time limit.  If you 
wanted a pro ticket, it was about 200Euro for 1.5 hours.




I can see a lot of pros buying Pentax to get around this sort of stuff.
HAR

William Robb




Worked for me. 8-)



PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well, it's a slow list day, so I'll post another cruise pic. This one's 
a Great Grape Cuda or Challenger. I'm guessing a Challenger. ISO 400, 
FA 35/2, fi @ 1/3 second.

Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3633673size=lg



Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm very happy with the performance of my Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5. 
Very sharp and contrasty. However, I find my self using the DA 50-200 
more and more, due to its size and excellent performance. The loss of a 
stop plus isn't often a problem for me. However, I will pull out the 
Vivitar when I think it might be.

On Aug 14, 2005, at 11:25 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I have to second that, these are fantastic lenses that can be had 
quiet inexpensively, though the difference is more like 2/3 stop.


Bill Owens wrote:

Several years ago I was able to pickup a Vivitar Series I 70-210/3.5. 
 Only 1/2 stop slower that a 2.8 and $100.00.


Bill
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:37 PM
Subject: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom



I use the SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6/70-210mm a lot.
But it's often too slow.
The FA 2.8 Pentax 80-200mm is almost three times as expensive as a 
similar

Sigma lens.
A Tokina 2.8 AT-X 80-200mm is only appr. 50% of the Sigma. This 
makes the

Pentax lens is 6 times as expensive as the Tokina!
Is it really worth this it?

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt










--
When you're worried or in doubt,Run in circles, (scream and shout).





Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Aug 13, 2005, at 3:54 PM, frank theriault wrote:


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg


frank!
You've dashed the hope of your signature line and gone sharp on us.  
How sad!! ...


]'-)
Great shot, really. Timeless. You've caught Youth and Summer in this  
frame.


Godfrey



Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Aug 14, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Cotty wrote:


I thought I was bad enough connecting up now and then in my Land Rover
for a gander - you're on the street? Don't tell me, you can get a  
hotspot

on the back of your *ist D ??


I have logged into Amazon and checked a book price or two while in a  
local bookstore with my phone... Embarassing, eh? but I hate to pay  
$40 for a book I can get for $25 by waiting two days. ;-)


Godfrey



Re: PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 14, 2005, at 8:40 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Well, it's a slow list day, so I'll post another cruise pic. This  
one's a Great Grape Cuda or Challenger. I'm guessing a  
Challenger. ISO 400, FA 35/2, fi @ 1/3 second.

Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3633673size=lg


Gads, all these colorful cars drifting past in a streaky cruising  
world. Nice work indeed.


Godfrey



Re: PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/8/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well, it's a slow list day, so I'll post another cruise pic. This one's 
a Great Grape Cuda or Challenger. I'm guessing a Challenger. ISO 400, 
FA 35/2, fi @ 1/3 second.
Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3633673size=lg

Challenger! Got any Chargers???  :-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 14, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I'm very happy with the performance of my Vivitar Series 1  
70-210/3.5. Very sharp and contrasty. However, I find my self using  
the DA 50-200 more and more, due to its size and excellent  
performance. The loss of a stop plus isn't often a problem for me.  
However, I will pull out the Vivitar when I think it might be.


I borrowed a Canon 70-200/2.8L IS once and was stunned with how good  
a lens it was, and also stunned at how heavy and bulky it was. These  
big lenses are simply not my cup of tea except for very limited uses.  
I'd rather have a slowish, light, handy lens and use a tripod.


I am curious to know how the DA50-200 performs. It might have enough  
reach for my needs, I so rarely use the long end of the F100-300.  
And ... hmm ... can it work with a Pentax Auto 2x-S teleconverter?  
Without an aperture ring, I suppose not. hmm ...


Godfrey



Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

In a lot of places now you have to pay extra to take photos.  You have 
to pay _a lot_ extra if you want to use the pictures professionally. One 
place I went in had a ticket for about £2, no time limit.  If you wanted 
a pro ticket, it was about 200Euro for 1.5 hours.

What, you mean like churches? Or are we talking stately homes?

What happens if you don't buy a ticket, then pull an optio out and get a
catch of little johnny sucking on his ice cream?




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_





Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Juan Buhler
Back in 2001, I was in San Luis Obispo during a weekend drive along
the coast. In a photo store there, I found a K85/1.8 for I think $180
and a K30/2.8 for $99. I don't remember the prices exactly, but they
turned out to be a bargain. I wasn't familiar with those lenses, so I
went to the local library, logged in to the pdml archives, and found
that they were indeed hard to find.

I'll be forever grateful to the pdml for that :)

j

On 8/14/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Aug 14, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Cotty wrote:
 
  I thought I was bad enough connecting up now and then in my Land Rover
  for a gander - you're on the street? Don't tell me, you can get a
  hotspot
  on the back of your *ist D ??
 
 I have logged into Amazon and checked a book price or two while in a
 local bookstore with my phone... Embarassing, eh? but I hate to pay
 $40 for a book I can get for $25 by waiting two days. ;-)
 
 Godfrey
 
 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Re: PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 14/8/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


Well, it's a slow list day, so I'll post another cruise pic. This one's 
a Great Grape Cuda or Challenger. I'm guessing a Challenger. ISO 400, 
FA 35/2, fi @ 1/3 second.

Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3633673size=lg



Challenger! Got any Chargers???  :-)


Toys.  In the Technical Museum in Prague, there is an unrestored, 
pre-war, Mercedes GP car.  Three litre, supercharged and just within 
touching distance.  8-)







Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_








Re: PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
No Chargers in this batch. A supercharged Duster, but no Chargers. I'll 
have to look for one later this week. Rainy weather moved in last 
night, so I haven't been back out, but I'm hoping it clears out by 
Tuesday. I'll be at home tomorrow, because my daughter and 
granddaughter are arriving from Scotland. Happy times.

Paul
On Aug 14, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Cotty wrote:


On 14/8/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well, it's a slow list day, so I'll post another cruise pic. This 
one's
a Great Grape Cuda or Challenger. I'm guessing a Challenger. ISO 
400,

FA 35/2, fi @ 1/3 second.
Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3633673size=lg


Challenger! Got any Chargers???  :-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_






Re: PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist

Thanks Godfrey. Lots of fun.
On Aug 14, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Aug 14, 2005, at 8:40 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Well, it's a slow list day, so I'll post another cruise pic. This 
one's a Great Grape Cuda or Challenger. I'm guessing a Challenger. 
ISO 400, FA 35/2, fi @ 1/3 second.

Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3633673size=lg


Gads, all these colorful cars drifting past in a streaky cruising 
world. Nice work indeed.


Godfrey





Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 14/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


In a lot of places now you have to pay extra to take photos.  You have 
to pay _a lot_ extra if you want to use the pictures professionally. One 
place I went in had a ticket for about £2, no time limit.  If you wanted 
a pro ticket, it was about 200Euro for 1.5 hours.



What, you mean like churches? Or are we talking stately homes?


Many places that you need to buy a ticket to get into.  In the case of 
the Cathedral in Prague, you need to buy only a ticket for certain parts 
and that includes a photo licence, which you need for the whole 
building.  However, once we were inside, I think there was certainly 
long term damage being done from all the flashes.  There weren't that 
many people in the ticket queue..




What happens if you don't buy a ticket, then pull an optio out and get a
catch of little johnny sucking on his ice cream?


I was a good boy and didn't do it but, as above, the rest of the world 
seemed to take no notice.  Particularly shitty as the tickets were so 
cheap for amateur use.  I was expecting some sort of official response 
but there was none when I was around.


BTW, only two P* DSLRs on the whole trip, excluding other PDMLers'. 
 Most people seemed to be using phones or really tiny compacts. 
Occasionally, there would be someone with a huge DSLR with battery grip 
and fast lens.







Cheers,
  Cotty


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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_









Re: Hopi Couple

2005-08-14 Thread Bob Blakely

From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]


http://bob.blakely.com/Cake_4.jpg Watch out - large file!


Thanks for the comments, Guys!

These are the particulars I forgot to include...

LX, SMCP 35-105/3.5 @ unknown/5.6, Combination soft box/bounce on camera - 
white ceiling.


Regards,
Bob...
-
The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose
as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers
with the smallest possible amount of hissing.
- Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
  minister of finance to French King Louis XIV 





Re: PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread Powell Hargrave
Well done Paul.  The kid riding shotgun is soo clear - almost sharp.
Great technique.

Powell

Well, it's a slow list day, so I'll post another cruise pic. This one's 
a Great Grape Cuda or Challenger. I'm guessing a Challenger. ISO 400, 
FA 35/2, fi @ 1/3 second.
Paul
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3633673size=lg




Re: PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/8/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

my daughter and 
granddaughter are arriving from Scotland. Happy times.

Ach aye! Time for a wee dram!

Have a good time.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




RE: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 I have logged into Amazon and checked a book price or two 
 while in a local bookstore with my phone... Embarassing, eh? 
 but I hate to pay $40 for a book I can get for $25 by waiting 
 two days. ;-)
 

That's why there'll be no more bricks  mortar bookstores in a few years. 

Amazon will charge whatever they want, and we will have lost the pleasure of
browsing for books. You won't be able to talk to knowledgable staff about
the books. The town centres will become dustbowls and the unemployment rate
will keep on rising. There'll be fighting in the streets, with our children
at our feet... 

Well, perhaps not that bad. But what you're doing is what happened to all
the little photo shops, and so many other small shops. It all contributes to
the break-up of local communities and a fall in the quality of the goods and
the quality of living. 

I've bought an awful lot from Amazon over the years, but almost only when I
haven't been able to get the book locally (which includes the West End of
London). 

Support your local shops.

Bob



Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 14, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Bob W wrote:

That's why there'll be no more bricks  mortar bookstores in a few  
years.


Amazon will charge whatever they want, and we will have lost the  
pleasure of
browsing for books. You won't be able to talk to knowledgable staff  
about
the books. The town centres will become dustbowls and the  
unemployment rate
will keep on rising. There'll be fighting in the streets, with our  
children

at our feet...

Well, perhaps not that bad. But what you're doing is what happened  
to all
the little photo shops, and so many other small shops. It all  
contributes to
the break-up of local communities and a fall in the quality of the  
goods and

the quality of living.

I've bought an awful lot from Amazon over the years, but almost  
only when I
haven't been able to get the book locally (which includes the West  
End of

London).

Support your local shops.


All the good bookstores near me are either big chains (Barnes  Noble  
or Borders Books) already, with the exception of the four used  
bookstores and two small bookshops which I frequent and buy from  
quite often. Since BN and BB are on the same order of commercial  
scale in business as Amazon.com, what the heck? Why pay a 40% added  
markup to BN when Amazon has the same thing?


Camera shops ... The two good ones nearby I frequent often, and they  
usually offer prices quite close to what I can buy from BH Photo,  
and I buy locally whenever it's sensible to. All the little older Mom  
 Pa shops ... well, Mom and Pa  already retired and nobody picked up  
the business. Not much choice there.


The world has changed.

Godfrey



RE: PESO:Doppeldecker fly's paradise

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Godfrey
thanks for your comment.
The flowers and the fly had that saturated color, there was not manipulation
done on the computer later.
The red is indeed very strong ;-)
greetings
Markus

-Original Message-
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:17 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO:Doppeldecker  fly's paradise


The exposure looks good, although a touch high on saturation for my
taste.
Not much else to comment on ... I'm not a bug shot lover. ;-)

Godfrey

On Aug 12, 2005, at 7:42 PM, Markus Maurer wrote:

 Hi Pentax lovers
 I tried a new flash setup on the Pentax SFXn with the 90mm Tamron
 macro.
 The Pentax AF400T hammerhead flash slightly turned to the right
 side and from above the camera and a handkerchief mounted in
 front of the flash reflector. TTL flashed, film was Agfa ISO 200.

 The two bees where flying in the exact same position as
 Doppeldecker ;-)

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3624675

 The second shot was made with the same setup, I love the green
 color of the fly on the red flower.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3624683


 I know that the composition could be stronger on both shots but
 I'm quite happy with the flash light here.

 comments are welcome
 greetings
 Markus




RE: PESO: A Ford for Ken

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Paul
I find your experiments very interesting and would like to see more, maybe
combined with flash?
The Ford is well done.
greetings
Markus

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:35 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: A Ford for Ken


Although the results aren't sharp in the way a conventional pic should
be, the focus has to be accurate to get a nice effect. When it's not,
there are no edges, and the dynamic feeling is lost. I focus manually
on a spot on the street and try to time the exposure so that the center
of the car will arrive at that spot halfway through they exposure.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2005, at 10:27 PM, David Savage wrote:

 Cool shot of a beautiful old ute (that's pickup, for the rest of you
 :-)

 Must be somewhat liberating to take photos where the end result isn't
 dependent on razor sharp focus.

 g

 Dave

 On 8/14/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower
 shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was
 shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should
 please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right
 up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few
 years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain
 shutter.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg







RE: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Frank
I agree with all of the comments so far.
I lovely photo of a wonderful place, taken in the right moment and with a
good composition.
greetings
Markus
, as were the
 spectators.  I snapped a few, including this one:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg

 Comments are always encouraged and appreciated.

 Thanks!

 cheers,
 frank



How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Pentaxians

I have two 55mm filters stuck together and would like to ask for 
an advice to separate them.
I can not hold each of them easily to turn them because of the 
little ring area, is there anything
I can do without damaging one of the filters?

greetings
Markus



Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: E.R.N. Reed

Subject: Re: Winder ME, anyone?



I have a reverse story -- one day I happened to be looking through my 
recommendations list from Amazon and there was a book I'd never heard 
of, but it looked really, really interesting. I happened to be passing by 
Barnes  Noble an hour or so later, went in to check their price and if 
they had it and all that, and there it was, sitting just on the corner of 
a shelf where my eye caught it as I walked in. One sale for BN, 
compliments of Amazon's sales practices!!

Impatience will still help the brick  mortar stores somewhat, I think.


Maybe, but more likely not.
Most places now, the only book shops are large chains such as Chapters or 
BN. The small players are already forced out.
We've already witnessed it happen with camera stores, it'll happen soon 
enough with bookstores.


William Robb 





Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Markus Maurer 
Subject: How-to separate 2 stuck filters




Hi Pentaxians

I have two 55mm filters stuck together and would like to ask for 
an advice to separate them.
I can not hold each of them easily to turn them because of the 
little ring area, is there anything

I can do without damaging one of the filters?


Put on a pair of rubber gloves (dishwashing latex gloves will work).
Sandwich the two filters in the palms of your hands and twist them apart.

William Robb



Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Aug 14, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Bob W wrote:

That's why there'll be no more bricks  mortar bookstores in a few  
years.


Amazon will charge whatever they want, and we will have lost the  
pleasure of
browsing for books. You won't be able to talk to knowledgable staff  
about
the books. The town centres will become dustbowls and the  
unemployment rate
will keep on rising. There'll be fighting in the streets, with our  
children

at our feet...

Well, perhaps not that bad. But what you're doing is what happened  
to all
the little photo shops, and so many other small shops. It all  
contributes to
the break-up of local communities and a fall in the quality of the  
goods and

the quality of living.

I've bought an awful lot from Amazon over the years, but almost  only 
when I
haven't been able to get the book locally (which includes the West  
End of

London).

Support your local shops.



All the good bookstores near me are either big chains (Barnes  Noble  
or Borders Books) already, with the exception of the four used  
bookstores and two small bookshops which I frequent and buy from  
quite often. Since BN and BB are on the same order of commercial  
scale in business as Amazon.com, what the heck? Why pay a 40% added  
markup to BN when Amazon has the same thing?


Camera shops ... The two good ones nearby I frequent often, and they  
usually offer prices quite close to what I can buy from BH Photo,  
and I buy locally whenever it's sensible to. All the little older Mom  
 Pa shops ... well, Mom and Pa  already retired and nobody picked up  
the business. Not much choice there.


The world has changed.

Godfrey


The biggest camera store in my city can't be bothered to carry Pentax 
any more, and the other one has only the low-end bodies. (We also have 
some Ritzwolves around but they are, as far as I can tell, small 
electronics stores that carry a few cameras.) I bought, or my husband 
bought for me, five Pentax cameras from the big store in the past eleven 
years. There's not much more we, personally, could have done to 
encourage them. So now my choices for Pentax gear are: buy sight unseen 
mail-order or take a half-day to drive to Austin to find a decent, 
Pentax-carrying camera store (which I did for both my Optio and *istD.)




RE: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Bill
I will buy gloves tomorrow and try your recommendation.
thanks!
Markus


-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:58 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters



- Original Message - 
From: Markus Maurer 
Subject: How-to separate 2 stuck filters


 Hi Pentaxians
 
 I have two 55mm filters stuck together and would like to ask for 
 an advice to separate them.
 I can not hold each of them easily to turn them because of the 
 little ring area, is there anything
 I can do without damaging one of the filters?

Put on a pair of rubber gloves (dishwashing latex gloves will work).
Sandwich the two filters in the palms of your hands and twist them apart.

William Robb




Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Glen

At 01:58 PM 8/14/2005, William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - From: Markus Maurer Subject: How-to 
separate 2 stuck filters




Hi Pentaxians
I have two 55mm filters stuck together and would like to ask for an 
advice to separate them.
I can not hold each of them easily to turn them because of the little 
ring area, is there anything

I can do without damaging one of the filters?


Put on a pair of rubber gloves (dishwashing latex gloves will work).
Sandwich the two filters in the palms of your hands and twist them apart.

William Robb


That should help with two simple filters, but if one of the filters 
happened to be a polarizer with an endlessly rotating element, this 
probably would not help. For that particular case, there are filter 
wrenches available. I don't have any filter wrenches myself, but there 
have been a couple times when I wished I did have them. The stuck polarizer 
scenario was one of those times. I think I also had a filter and screw-in 
lens hood become stuck once, and due to the somewhat delicate construction 
and the particular shape of the hood, I'm not sure that the rubber glove 
trick would have worked.


That said, I'll have to remember the rubber glove trick. I'm sure it works 
quite well in many situations.



take care,
Glen



RE: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Amita Guha
You can also try tying a piece of string tightly around one of them and
using the leverage to twist it off the other.

Amita



Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Bob Blakely
There exists small plastic filter wrenches. They are little split ring 
devices with handles sticking out and take up almost no room in the bag. 
They come in a variety of sizes and each one fits a small range of filter 
sizes. I own 4 which covers most all my filter sizes. I've used them several 
times with success.


Regards,
Bob...
-
The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose
as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers
with the smallest possible amount of hissing.
- Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
  minister of finance to French King Louis XIV

From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi Pentaxians

I have two 55mm filters stuck together and would like to ask for
an advice to separate them.
I can not hold each of them easily to turn them because of the
little ring area, is there anything
I can do without damaging one of the filters?





Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Bob Blakely

This is what I use.

Paste together in your browser...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lense-Filter-Wrench-2-pack-for-46-60-MM-filters-NEW_W0QQitemZ7537846308QQcategoryZ79000QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Regards,
Bob...
-
The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose
as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers
with the smallest possible amount of hissing.
- Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
  minister of finance to French King Louis XIV

From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi Pentaxians

I have two 55mm filters stuck together and would like to ask for
an advice to separate them.
I can not hold each of them easily to turn them because of the
little ring area, is there anything
I can do without damaging one of the filters?





RE: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Bob W
But even if all the local bookstores are parts of chains, there is still a
good argument for buying from them rather from Amazon when you have the
chance. And that is that it keeps a lot of the money local, in the wages of
the staff, brings in ancillary work, such as cleaning, from the local area,
keeps another shop open on a high street, means you can talk to often
knowledgeable people, and means that you are actually dealing with people. 

All is not doom, of course. There has been a boom in book-buying in recent
years, and Amazon has helped to fuel it as well as doing a lot of other good
things.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 14 August 2005 18:57
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Winder ME, anyone?
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: E.R.N. Reed
 Subject: Re: Winder ME, anyone?
 
 
 
  I have a reverse story -- one day I happened to be looking 
 through my 
  recommendations list from Amazon and there was a book I'd 
 never heard 
  of, but it looked really, really interesting. I happened to 
 be passing by 
  Barnes  Noble an hour or so later, went in to check their 
 price and if 
  they had it and all that, and there it was, sitting just on 
 the corner of 
  a shelf where my eye caught it as I walked in. One sale for BN, 
  compliments of Amazon's sales practices!!
  Impatience will still help the brick  mortar stores 
 somewhat, I think.
 
 Maybe, but more likely not.
 Most places now, the only book shops are large chains such as 
 Chapters or 
 BN. The small players are already forced out.
 We've already witnessed it happen with camera stores, it'll 
 happen soon 
 enough with bookstores.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
 
 



Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, P. J. Alling wrote:


Bill Owens wrote:

Several years ago I was able to pickup a Vivitar Series I 70-210/3.5.  Only 
1/2 stop slower that a 2.8 and $100.00.


I have to second that, these are fantastic lenses that can be had quiet 
inexpensively, though the difference is more like 2/3 stop.


And AF (perhaps even A compatibility, can't quite recall).

Kostas



Australian web picture law

2005-08-14 Thread Powell Hargrave
I hope this paranoia gets quickly trampled.
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,16202163%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E
,00.html



SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Jens Bladt
50-200mm is a brilliant zoom range. I'd love to have a 50-200 F2.8 :-\ 

Jens Bladt
cand. arch.
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 18:02
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom


On Aug 14, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I'm very happy with the performance of my Vivitar Series 1  
 70-210/3.5. Very sharp and contrasty. However, I find my self using  
 the DA 50-200 more and more, due to its size and excellent  
 performance. The loss of a stop plus isn't often a problem for me.  
 However, I will pull out the Vivitar when I think it might be.

I borrowed a Canon 70-200/2.8L IS once and was stunned with how good  
a lens it was, and also stunned at how heavy and bulky it was. These  
big lenses are simply not my cup of tea except for very limited uses.  
I'd rather have a slowish, light, handy lens and use a tripod.

I am curious to know how the DA50-200 performs. It might have enough  
reach for my needs, I so rarely use the long end of the F100-300.  
And ... hmm ... can it work with a Pentax Auto 2x-S teleconverter?  
Without an aperture ring, I suppose not. hmm ...

Godfrey




RE: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Jens Bladt
The Vivitar Series 1 3.5/70-210mm is MF, isn't it?
To me maunal focus is not realy an option for reportage work. 


Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 20:38
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: SV: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom


50-200mm is a brilliant zoom range. I'd love to have a 50-200 F2.8 :-\ 

Jens Bladt
cand. arch.
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 18:02
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom


On Aug 14, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I'm very happy with the performance of my Vivitar Series 1  
 70-210/3.5. Very sharp and contrasty. However, I find my self using  
 the DA 50-200 more and more, due to its size and excellent  
 performance. The loss of a stop plus isn't often a problem for me.  
 However, I will pull out the Vivitar when I think it might be.

I borrowed a Canon 70-200/2.8L IS once and was stunned with how good  
a lens it was, and also stunned at how heavy and bulky it was. These  
big lenses are simply not my cup of tea except for very limited uses.  
I'd rather have a slowish, light, handy lens and use a tripod.

I am curious to know how the DA50-200 performs. It might have enough  
reach for my needs, I so rarely use the long end of the F100-300.  
And ... hmm ... can it work with a Pentax Auto 2x-S teleconverter?  
Without an aperture ring, I suppose not. hmm ...

Godfrey





Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Juan Buhler
Or, two flat rubber surfaces could work too. Try a pair of rubber
flip-flops or something like that. Do as Bill said, sandwiching the
filters, pressing and twisting.

j


On 8/14/05, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Bill
 I will buy gloves tomorrow and try your recommendation.
 thanks!
 Markus
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:58 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Markus Maurer
 Subject: How-to separate 2 stuck filters
 
 
  Hi Pentaxians
 
  I have two 55mm filters stuck together and would like to ask for
  an advice to separate them.
  I can not hold each of them easily to turn them because of the
  little ring area, is there anything
  I can do without damaging one of the filters?
 
 Put on a pair of rubber gloves (dishwashing latex gloves will work).
 Sandwich the two filters in the palms of your hands and twist them apart.
 
 William Robb
 
 
 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Small camera and book shops, was Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Malcolm Smith
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote further down:

Bob W wrote directly below:
 
  That's why there'll be no more bricks  mortar bookstores in a few 
  years.
 
  Amazon will charge whatever they want, and we will have lost the 
  pleasure of browsing for books. You won't be able to talk to 
  knowledgable staff about the books. The town centres will become 
  dustbowls and the unemployment rate will keep on rising. 
 There'll be 
  fighting in the streets, with our children at our feet...
 
  Well, perhaps not that bad. But what you're doing is what 
 happened to 
  all the little photo shops, and so many other small shops. It all 
  contributes to the break-up of local communities and a fall in the 
  quality of the goods and the quality of living.
 
  I've bought an awful lot from Amazon over the years, but 
 almost only 
  when I haven't been able to get the book locally (which 
 includes the 
  West End of London).
 
  Support your local shops.
 
 All the good bookstores near me are either big chains (Barnes 
  Noble or Borders Books) already, with the exception of the 
 four used bookstores and two small bookshops which I frequent 
 and buy from quite often. Since BN and BB are on the same 
 order of commercial scale in business as Amazon.com, what the 
 heck? Why pay a 40% added markup to BN when Amazon has the 
 same thing?
 
 Camera shops ... The two good ones nearby I frequent often, 
 and they usually offer prices quite close to what I can buy 
 from BH Photo, and I buy locally whenever it's sensible to. 
 All the little older Mom  Pa shops ... well, Mom and Pa  
 already retired and nobody picked up the business. Not much 
 choice there.
 
 The world has changed.

I've been a great believer in using local shops. Our Borough gives lip
service to being committed to local shops but the actions it has taken over
the past decade have changed the high street permanently. I have always been
happy to pay a little extra for someone local for the convenience and
customer service, which includes staff knowing what you are interested in
and letting you know of something new or second hand as it comes up. 

However, apart from the changes in competition with Supermarkets forever
increasing the range of the merchandise with the benefit of all in one shop,
draconian parking measures on the high street have killed passing trade with
wardens ready to pounce the moment you have stopped; locally parking is paid
for by pre-paid 'scratch off' vouchers, so unless you have some, you could
well receive an expensive ticket whilst you are buying some vouchers! It's
great easy money for the Council - but it's killed trade. I have recorded
this demise over the years on film, from a busy shop for every need to a
wasteland of restaurants and take-away food outlets, which rely on foot
trade through the day and passing cars outside of restriction hours.

Those shops which are surviving are having to stock other items or try to
cram as much into the shelves as possible - often with fewer staff - and the
customer service which separated them from the big shops has taken a dive as
they don't have the time they used to have. A level playing field it is not
and I know that, but my trade is starting to go elsewhere when the one
selling point of service is the same as a big shop but ends up costing me
more.

My generation wants everything now - from digital images, to shopping for
the whole weeks shopping under one roof, with the car right outside. Little
shops are another casualty of change in society.

Malcolm

 





RE: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread Jens Bladt
What kind of places would that be, Mike?

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 16:12
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Photo Vest


Cotty wrote:

 On 14/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


The only drawback is that it makes you look like either a dweeb or a
pro.  So people stare and try to charge you pro rate for photo tickets.


 Hi Mike,

 What is a photo ticket?

In a lot of places now you have to pay extra to take photos.  You have
to pay _a lot_ extra if you want to use the pictures professionally. One
place I went in had a ticket for about £2, no time limit.  If you wanted
a pro ticket, it was about 200Euro for 1.5 hours.





 Cheers,
   Cotty


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RE: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread Jens Bladt
LOL!
That's a really good one, William !

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 16:32
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Photo Vest



- Original Message -
From: mike wilson
Subject: Re: Photo Vest




 In a lot of places now you have to pay extra to take photos.  You have to
 pay _a lot_ extra if you want to use the pictures professionally. One
 place I went in had a ticket for about £2, no time limit.  If you wanted a
 pro ticket, it was about 200Euro for 1.5 hours.


I can see a lot of pros buying Pentax to get around this sort of stuff.
HAR

William Robb





Re: Australian web picture law

2005-08-14 Thread Juan Buhler
Funny, when I first read that I thought Victorian was being used in
an editorial manner to describe the attorney general. Then I realized
it referred to the state of Victoria...

j

On 8/14/05, Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I hope this paranoia gets quickly trampled.
 http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,16202163%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E
 ,00.html
 
 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



RE: Australian web picture law

2005-08-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Where I live there's alrady laws and regulations covering this field.
Try to check out what available information the local (photo)journalist
union may have on this issue.

Funny enough, I have just downloaded several documents about this - a few
minutes ago - from the Danish Journalist Union. I'm sure other unions have
similar material available for it's members as well as non members.
Regards
Jens Bladt
Cand.arch.
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Powell Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 20:31
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Australian web picture law


I hope this paranoia gets quickly trampled.
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,16202163%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E
,00.html




Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread mike wilson

Jens Bladt wrote:


What kind of places would that be, Mike?

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


I've already mentioned Prague Castle/Cathedral but there are plenty of 
similar places that do the same.  It seems to be abused by many if the 
attraction has a high number of visitors, making it difficult to police.


My local cathedral has now completely banned amateur photgraphy in its 
grounds.  You can't even take a picture of the exterior parts that are 
inside the cathedral precinct.  I imagine that the worst that would 
happen if you were caught would be eviction.





-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. august 2005 16:12
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Photo Vest


Cotty wrote:



On 14/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:




The only drawback is that it makes you look like either a dweeb or a
pro.  So people stare and try to charge you pro rate for photo tickets.



Hi Mike,

What is a photo ticket?



In a lot of places now you have to pay extra to take photos.  You have
to pay _a lot_ extra if you want to use the pictures professionally. One
place I went in had a ticket for about £2, no time limit.  If you wanted
a pro ticket, it was about 200Euro for 1.5 hours.






Cheers,
 Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_














Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've bought an awful lot from Amazon over the years, but almost only when I
haven't been able to get the book locally (which includes the West End of
London). 

Support your local shops.

I have never bought anything from Amazon. Ever.
(Sometimes I buy from Powells.com when I can't find something locally,
but they are a real bricks and mortar bookstore.)
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Winder ME, anyone?

2005-08-14 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Most places now, the only book shops are large chains such as Chapters or 
BN. The small players are already forced out.
We've already witnessed it happen with camera stores, it'll happen soon 
enough with bookstores.

Ah Bill, I wish you'd had a chance to visit the Squirrel Hill Fotoshop
here in Pittsburgh before it went out of business in May :(
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom

2005-08-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I use the SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6/70-210mm a lot.
But it's often too slow.
The FA 2.8 Pentax 80-200mm is almost three times as expensive as a similar
Sigma lens.
A Tokina 2.8 AT-X 80-200mm is only appr. 50% of the Sigma. This makes the
Pentax lens is 6 times as expensive as the Tokina!
Is it really worth this it?

The Pentax 80-200/2.8 is sharp at all apertures and focal lengths and
works well even at close focusing distances (it's very good with an
extension tube or two-element close-up diopter). Great bokeh, too.
Yes, it's worth it.
Of course, here in the states it's about $1300, vs $700 for the Sigma.
If you can't afford the Pentax the Sigma will probably serve well. 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO: A Ford for Ken

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Markus. I am going to try some with a bit of flash on trailing 
curtain shutter, but the weather has turned. I'm hoping that i have 
another chance to shoot a bit during the week. The cruise concludes 
next Saturday.

Paul
On Aug 14, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Markus Maurer wrote:


Hi Paul
I find your experiments very interesting and would like to see more, 
maybe

combined with flash?
The Ford is well done.
greetings
Markus


-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:35 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: A Ford for Ken


Although the results aren't sharp in the way a conventional pic 
should

be, the focus has to be accurate to get a nice effect. When it's not,
there are no edges, and the dynamic feeling is lost. I focus manually
on a spot on the street and try to time the exposure so that the 
center

of the car will arrive at that spot halfway through they exposure.
Paul
On Aug 13, 2005, at 10:27 PM, David Savage wrote:


Cool shot of a beautiful old ute (that's pickup, for the rest of you
:-)

Must be somewhat liberating to take photos where the end result 
isn't

dependent on razor sharp focus.

g

Dave

On 8/14/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower
shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It 
was

shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should
please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say 
right
up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a 
few

years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain
shutter.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg












Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/13/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day Frank,
 
 An absolutely stunning shot.

Thanks, David.

 You've caught the action at the perfect
 moment, composition, focus DOF are all spot on.

I would have normally liked to pan this type of shot, to get motion
blur, and to separate the jumper from the background.  However, with
ISO 200 film on that bright sunny day, I couldn't get my shutter speed
slow enough.  So, I opted for as wide an aperture as possible to get
that separation, and didn't move the camera.  Just composed and waited
for the leapers to run and jump through the frame and snapped.  I
don't remember what the aperture was, but I know the shutter speed was
1/1000th (the fastest on that camera). Apeture may have been around
f5.6.

 I also really like the
 expressions of the people watching in the background.
 
 What really blows me away is that you have beaches. When I think
 Canada, I see prairies, mountains, bears, brass monkeys...that sort of
 thing. VBG

We have lots of beaches, in lots of places.  The Great Lakes are the
largest fresh-water bodies of water in the world, and there are many
wonderful beaches.  Wasaga Beach on Lake Huron is, IIRC, the longest
fresh-water sand beach in the world.

Of course, the East and West Coasts, being on the ocean, have many
huge and beautiful beaches (although on the East Coast at least -
having never been to the Left Coast, I don't know about there - the
water's pretty cold).

You probably don't know this, but Canada has more fresh water than any
country in the world.  We have thousands and thousands of lakes and
lots of rivers, so there are lots of beaches, even in Saskatchewan
g.  Of course, some of them you do have to bring your ice awl to
drill a hole in the crust vbg.

 
 My views are probably coloured somewhat from only having been there in
 winter :-)
 
 Seriously though, that's a cracking pic.

Thanks again.  g

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Bob Shell?

2005-08-14 Thread Mark Roberts
BTW folks:

Bob Shell Defense Fund
c/o Davis  Associates LLC.
9502-A Lee Highway
Fairfax, VA 22031
 
I'm sure anything you could contribute would be much appreciated.

 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO: Leap of Faith

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/14/05, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Frank
 I agree with all of the comments so far.
 I lovely photo of a wonderful place, taken in the right moment and with a
 good composition.
 greetings
 Markus

Markus, Cotty, Godfrey, John,

Thanks for your thoughts and comments.  I really appreciate your
taking the time to look and comment.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO:Doppeldecker fly's paradise

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/12/05, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I resent this one since I got no reactions so far...
 sorry if you see it twice.
 Markus

I like the second one (fly on the flower) best, because of the bright
colours.  The green fly is interesting.

The double-decker bees are interesting (At first I thought, Hey,
those bees are having SEX!, then realized all worker bees are female.
 Could they be Lesbian Bees? LOL).  However, the bees, especially
the top one, seem a bit underexposed to my eye.  Interesting as a
capture of what I'd think to be an unusual event, but not as strong a
photo as the other, IMHO.

However, both are good photos.

cheers,
frank



-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Cruising with Dad

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/14/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, it's a slow list day, so I'll post another cruise pic. This one's
 a Great Grape Cuda or Challenger. I'm guessing a Challenger. ISO 400,
 FA 35/2, fi @ 1/3 second.
 Paul
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3633673size=lg

The streaking lights in the background and the bright purple car
remind me of a midway ride at night.  The shot has a real carnival
feel to it.

Another winner, Paul.  Keep 'em coming!

cheers,
frank 


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Lewis Matthew

Put on a pair of rubber gloves (dishwashing latex gloves will work).
Sandwich the two filters in the palms of your hands and twist them apart.

William Robb



Thanks, Bill. You solved my problem.

Lewis

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PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
As a result of an off-list discussion, I modified this one that I
initially posted yesterday, in two ways:

First, on the original, I sharpened only the jumper, and not the
background, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking
than on the print.  On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame.

Second, I fiddled with levels a bit to darken it.  I now think that
the original looks over-bright and over-exposed.

Let me know if you have a preference.  I certainly prefer the
improved version:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3634511size=lg

For reference, here's the original:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg

Thanks in advance.

cheers,
frank
-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Was Winder ME, anyone? Now bookstores.

2005-08-14 Thread Lewis Matthew



Maybe, but more likely not.
Most places now, the only book shops are large chains such as Chapters or 
BN. The small players are already forced out.
We've already witnessed it happen with camera stores, it'll happen soon 
enough with bookstores.


William Robb



I think you are right. However, I must admit that I enjoy my hours spent in 
the big bookstores like Borders. Here in Indianapolis, the Half Price Books 
chain also does rather well, but it lacks the amenities found at Borders or 
BN. Both the aforementioned have caused our local libraries to become more 
user friendly - a needed change.


Lewis

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RE: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread Bob W

 
 My local cathedral has now completely banned amateur 
 photgraphy in its grounds.  You can't even take a picture of 
 the exterior parts that are inside the cathedral precinct.  I 
 imagine that the worst that would happen if you were caught 
 would be eviction.
 

You could always claim sanctuary...

Bob



PESO: Others 2005 - 31p - GDG

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not quite a PAW shot, but I like the textures and the skew-ness of  
everything in this photo. It seems a photo of a world where nothing  
quite lines up exactly. From an evening in Liverpool ...


  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/31p.htm

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey



Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 14, 2005, at 2:01 PM, frank theriault wrote:


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3634511size=lg

For reference, here's the original:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg


Hmm. I tend to like the original rendering more. I think it does a  
better job of expressing that bright moment which is Summer and Youth.


Godfrey



Re: Hopi Couple

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/12/05, Raimo K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great picture!

I agree with Raimo!

-frank



-- 
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Re: OT:Apple advise

2005-08-14 Thread Juey Chong Ong


On Aug 11, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

BTW, if you are going to be using an external monitor, keyboard and  
mouse on your desktop anyway, you might consider the PowerBook 12  
instead of the 15 as it is much smaller and easier for mobility.


Besides the smaller, non-widescreen display and the non-backlit  
keyboard the Powerbook 12 has some key differences from its 15 and  
17 brethren:


- best processor is slightly slower on the 12 (1.5GHz vs 1.67GHz)
- no S-video output
- no Firewire 800 port

If that's not an issue, and if you don't need the mobility of a  
laptop, the Mac mini offers much better value for money.




Also, for Photoshop, I recommend buying the system configured with  
as large and fast a hard drive as possible as well as 512-768M RAM  
as a minimum (I normally want 1G nowadays). Saves the hassle of  
doing it later, you will want it anyway.


These tips might be helpful:
http://www.barefeats.com/cscs2.html



I don't know about MS Works 2004 or the current bundle deals.


I think currently, the Macs ship with a 30-day trail of Microsoft  
Office X and a 30-day trial of iWorks '05.



The schema is that you connect the base station to your WAN  
connection, whether that be a phone line connection for dial up or  
a DSL/cable modem for broadband connection. You run the Airport  
Admin utility application and configure it for whatever your  
required connection parameters are (there's an automated assistant  
for first timers... ;-) and what level of security you want to do  
(ALWAYS turn on 128bit WEP encryption). Then you load that  
configuration into the base station and you're done.


In this day and age, better use WPA or WPA2 if possible.


It's actually much simpler to do this than it sounds. Setting up a  
small business network with base station and 50-10 Mac OS X systems  
normally takes me about 20 minutes, max, if you're using the  
Airport Base Station. Using a Netgear or Linksys base station has  
sometimes taken 2-3 days of fussing over parameters to get working  
cleanly, that's why I recommend the Apple Airport Base Station so  
strongly.


I don't think it really takes that long with a well-behaved router. I  
can usually get a 3Com or LinkSys router configured to talk to my  
Powerbook in 15-30 minutes. The bigger problem is that certain  
applications might not work. e.g. I can't get iChat AV to do audio/ 
video chats with my unmodified LinkSys router if I use NAT on the  
router. There is a list of tested-and-works third-party routers on  
the Apple support web site.


--jc



Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/8/05, Markus Maurer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi Bill
I will buy gloves tomorrow and try your recommendation.
thanks!
Markus

Elbow length gloves work better. Get good quality rubber. Black's nice.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

My local cathedral has now completely banned amateur photgraphy in its 
grounds.  You can't even take a picture of the exterior parts that are 
inside the cathedral precinct.

Why?





Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Photo Vest

2005-08-14 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:

On 14/8/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


My local cathedral has now completely banned amateur photgraphy in its 
grounds.  You can't even take a picture of the exterior parts that are 
inside the cathedral precinct.



Why?


Because.

I suspect the powers (or maybe just power) think(s) that someone, 
somewhere mught be making something out of the cathedral and a cut 
should come its way.  Even if it's just the Margate pensioners annual 
outing and old Freddie wanted a shot to put in their newsletter.








Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist

Hi Frank,
There's something to be said for the new version. I like the 
sharpneing, and I like the reduced highlights. I would choose it over 
the original. But I think you can do better. In the new version, you've 
lost all the shadow detail in the leaper's face. I'd go back to the 
original and use Shadows/Highlights rather than levels, and just bring 
down the highlights. If you don't have Shadows/Highlights, go to curves 
and pull down the far end of the RGB curve to kill some of the 
highlights.

Paul
On Aug 14, 2005, at 5:01 PM, frank theriault wrote:


As a result of an off-list discussion, I modified this one that I
initially posted yesterday, in two ways:

First, on the original, I sharpened only the jumper, and not the
background, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking
than on the print.  On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame.

Second, I fiddled with levels a bit to darken it.  I now think that
the original looks over-bright and over-exposed.

Let me know if you have a preference.  I certainly prefer the
improved version:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3634511size=lg

For reference, here's the original:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg

Thanks in advance.

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: PESO - Mediated Reality

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist

Very inventive. A fascinating picture. Good work.
Paul
On Aug 14, 2005, at 6:44 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:


http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso21.html

Comments welcomed.

   -Marco





RE: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Frank
you overdid it for me.
The face of the jumper is too dark now and I don't mind the background and
the people there being a bit on the light and overexposed side because it
draws the attention more on the main subject.
Your second version is not an improvement for me therefore, maybe we need a
version 1.2 ;-)
greetings
Markus



-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:01 PM
To: PDML
Subject: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1


As a result of an off-list discussion, I modified this one that I
initially posted yesterday, in two ways:

First, on the original, I sharpened only the jumper, and not the
background, with the result that the background is more OOF-looking
than on the print.  On Version 1.1 I've sharpened the whole frame.

Second, I fiddled with levels a bit to darken it.  I now think that
the original looks over-bright and over-exposed.

Let me know if you have a preference.  I certainly prefer the
improved version:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3634511size=lg

For reference, here's the original:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?ph
oto_id=3631907size=lg

Thanks in advance.

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson




RE: PESO:Doppeldecker fly's paradise

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Frank
I agree with your comments, the 2 bees shot is nice for me just for the
special moment and not for the exposure or composition.
thanks for looking
Markus

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:14 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO:Doppeldecker  fly's paradise


On 8/12/05, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I resent this one since I got no reactions so far...
 sorry if you see it twice.
 Markus

I like the second one (fly on the flower) best, because of the bright
colours.  The green fly is interesting.

The double-decker bees are interesting (At first I thought, Hey,
those bees are having SEX!, then realized all worker bees are female.
 Could they be Lesbian Bees? LOL).  However, the bees, especially
the top one, seem a bit underexposed to my eye.  Interesting as a
capture of what I'd think to be an unusual event, but not as strong a
photo as the other, IMHO.

However, both are good photos.

cheers,
frank



--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson




RE: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Cotty
I will buy gloves tomorrow and *not* try the things your where probably be
thinking about when you wrote that ;-)

greetings
Markus


-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:59 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters


On 14/8/05, Markus Maurer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi Bill
I will buy gloves tomorrow and try your recommendation.
thanks!
Markus

Elbow length gloves work better. Get good quality rubber. Black's nice.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread keithw

Cotty wrote:


On 14/8/05, Markus Maurer, discombobulated, unleashed:



Hi Bill
I will buy gloves tomorrow and try your recommendation.
thanks!
Markus




Elbow length gloves work better. Get good quality rubber. Black's nice.

Cheers,
  Cotty



Then a set of glossy black knee length patent leather boots...

Uh huh...  ;-)

These shoes are made for walkin'...

keith



Re: PESO - Mediated Reality

2005-08-14 Thread keithw

Marco Alpert wrote:


http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso21.html

Comments welcomed.

   -Marco


Geez! That camera (in front) is about the size of a 2 1/4 X 3 1/4 Crown 
Graphic!




Re: A Ford for Ken

2005-08-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks Paul
I like  this series alot. Now with this Ford you're fair  balanced.

I think I started @ Ford the day after they stopped T production.
 
Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: A Ford for Ken


 Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower 
 shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was 
 shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should 
 please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right 
 up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few 
 years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain 
 shutter.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg
 



Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Joseph Tainter

This is what I use.

Paste together in your browser...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lense-Filter-Wrench-2-pack-for-46-60-MM-filters-NEW_W0QQitemZ7537846308QQcategoryZ79000QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Regards,
Bob...

--

Bob, thanks very much. I have a 77 mm. thin Heliopan polarizer that 
becomes stuck on my DA 14 with almost no tightening when attached. I 
have to leave it loose, which causes the entire filter to rotate. Try 
getting a stuck thin polarizer off of a lens! I will look for these, and 
hope that they are made for thin filters.


Joe



OT - 24 bit and 36 bit cameras ......

2005-08-14 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
Folks - 

I have a question - Fujifilm is coming out with S9000
a new camera.  This one has 9 Megapixels, 10.7x
optical and 2x digital zoom.  I really liked these
specifications very much.  I have been trying to
analyze my digital requirements for quite some time
and looks like this one could be a well fit.

One thing I am looking in the specifications is that
it has color depth of 24 bit.  And Fujifilm has come
up with Real Photo - something new from their own RD,
to give improved color rendition.

My question is perhaps very basic.   In camera, to
what extent 24 bit and 36 bit matter ?  And in case it
matters, by having real photo as an improvement for
color rendition, would it compensate the 24 bit color
depth ?  In other words, other cameras having 36 bit
but 6megapixels and this camera with 24 bit but real
photo as an improvement plus 9 megapixels - can we
make comparison ? And if yes, what are the plusses and
minuses ?

I am kind of confused here.  I do want to go in for a
camera that will give me bigger enlargements.  Right
now, I am using Nikon 4500 and pringing 13 * 19.  I
don't claim this is excellent quality and that's why I
want to move to another camera.

Any thoughts, please ?

Thank you.

Anand



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OT - 24 bit and 36 bit cameras ......

2005-08-14 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
Folks - 

I have a question - Fujifilm is coming out with S9000
a new camera.  This one has 9 Megapixels, 10.7x
optical and 2x digital zoom.  I really liked these
specifications very much.  I have been trying to
analyze my digital requirements for quite some time
and looks like this one could be a well fit.

One thing I am looking in the specifications is that
it has color depth of 24 bit.  And Fujifilm has come
up with Real Photo - something new from their own RD,
to give improved color rendition.

My question is perhaps very basic.   In camera, to
what extent 24 bit and 36 bit matter ?  And in case it
matters, by having real photo as an improvement for
color rendition, would it compensate the 24 bit color
depth ?  In other words, other cameras having 36 bit
but 6megapixels and this camera with 24 bit but real
photo as an improvement plus 9 megapixels - can we
make comparison ? And if yes, what are the plusses and
minuses ?

I am kind of confused here.  I do want to go in for a
camera that will give me bigger enlargements.  Right
now, I am using Nikon 4500 and pringing 13 * 19.  I
don't claim this is excellent quality and that's why I
want to move to another camera.

Any thoughts, please ?

Thank you.

Anand



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Re: A Ford for Ken

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist

You're welcome Ken, and thanks for the comment.
On Aug 14, 2005, at 8:50 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:


Thanks Paul
I like  this series alot. Now with this Ford you're fair  balanced.

I think I started @ Ford the day after they stopped T production.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: A Ford for Ken



Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower
shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was
shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should
please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right
up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few
years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain
shutter.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg







Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters

2005-08-14 Thread Joseph Tainter

This is what I use.

Paste together in your browser...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lense-Filter-Wrench-2-pack-for-46-60-MM-filters-NEW_W0QQitemZ7537846308QQcategoryZ79000QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Regards,
Bob...

--

P.S. These are 3.95-4.95 at BH. That eBay price is too high.

Joe



Re: PESO: Leap of Faith - Version 1.1

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/14/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Frank,
snip But I think you can do better.snip

Oh my God.

A highschool flashback.

cheers,
frank

vbg

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - Mediated Reality

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/14/05, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso21.html
 
 Comments welcomed.
 

That is very weird.  I had a print done up this week with the
intentions of posting it as a PAW, but had second thoughts because
seeing it in print, I decided I just didn't like it.

It was quite similar to yours - two people from behind looking through
two LCD viewfinders on their cameras.

Except that yours is well executed and composed and really interesting
and well done.  And, mine isn't.  Thank goodness I decided not to post
mine.

I really like yours a lot.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 31p - GDG

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/14/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not quite a PAW shot, but I like the textures and the skew-ness of
 everything in this photo. It seems a photo of a world where nothing
 quite lines up exactly. From an evening in Liverpool ...
 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/31p.htm
 
 Comments and critique always appreciated.
 
 enjoy
 Godfrey

I like the surveillance camera seemingly pointing at the signs in the
window, and the fellow, oblivious to the camera, standing under it on
his cell.

Plus all the stuff you said.

Cool shot.

cheer,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: GESO: An evening with the M100/2.8

2005-08-14 Thread frank theriault
On 8/12/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 GOD
 I knew he used a Pentax, but I didn't know he was on this list.

If He is, He's a lurker, because I don't recall seeing any posts from
Him (and I'd have likely remembered that...).

vbg

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



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