geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did 
take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for 
service--really fought with the focus this weekend.


There are captions too.
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html

Cheers, Christine 




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RE: Completely, waaayyyy OT: Architecture - Personal

2010-05-10 Thread Malcolm Smith
Hi John,

 Right click on a location on the map and select What's Here and
 google
 will give you Longitude  Latitude. You can use the numbers Google Maps
 gives you as a link.
 
 If you're talking about what I think you're talking about try plugging
 51.669177,0.003191 into Google Maps as your search term and it will
 give
 you a green arrow right in the middle of their driveway.
 
 Seems to be called The Grange. Street view doesn't give you much
 since
 Google's street view vehicles won't go into the private drive, but you
 can tell from moving along Sewardstone Road that it's a gated community
  they have an earth berm separating them from the Premier Lodge (AKA
 Premier Inn Waltham Abbey). Plus they're all single story units.

Immediately next door to it is the 'Bakers Arms' where most of the residents
can enjoy a meal and a drink. It isn't bad, been in there a few times.

 One problem I had at first is the map link for the Premier Inn is
 mis-located. The link icon is located in their driveway.
 
 Again, using street view from Sewardstone Road, you find that the
 Premier Inn is the larger building just south of where the map link is
 located.
 
 Then the immediately to the north of it makes sense.

Thanks. Yes, that's it, The Grange. Very difficult to see that driving past
on such a busy road.

 Looks like the view to the north  east would be mostly open field with
 the commercial greenhouses along Avery Rd. To the west  northwest is
 pasture (?) and then that very odd looking park-like area with all the
 mounds and curiously shaped tree planters. [GUNPOWDER - A New Country
 Park, by the sign ... you can sometimes read the signs in street view]

Most of the commercial greenhouses are no longer used. There is a haulage
company that parks trailers in one of these sites.  The view to the rear is
towards High Beech and very attractive. The view across the fields has the
access road to Junction 26 of the M25 motorway which was part of Quinton
Hill Farm. Gunpowder Park is a bit of open space and managed park land. It
was originally the RD location for the Royal Ordnance site that was
developed for housing and the warehouse - the park was part of the
requirement for open space. The Gunpowder Mills were in another location the
other side of the town but they use the name all over the place.

 And beyond that is the housing development that looks like nothing more
 than a miniature version of Little Winging from the Harry Potter
 movies before you ever get to the warehouse and the motorway. I doubt
 they can even see the warehouse from their location.

You can John, only too clearly. Plus the drone from the M25 motorway is
noticeably audible much of the time. 

 Probably the views aren't all that worse than many suburban landscapes.

Probably not, but I think for the location I might have wanted a little more
brick and a bit less glass.

 Plus, I think there's only three houses there. They look like the first
 two have an attached (or semi-attached) garage providing a visual
 divider between the units.

They had planning for six. It's a common issue here. Ten mins further down
the same road, a large house was demolished with land and an application for
118 houses went in. Although refused, a second application for 70+ was
granted and then we had the financial crash. They've finally moved plant on
to the site now, but from the land that has been cleared, it won't be 70 odd
houses going up.

The garages sound like later additions.

I'll take some pictures this weekend and get them posted. This road has had
so much change to it (and ongoing) it would make a great photographic
project. 

Malcolm


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RE: WEBCAM Video of Chicago Exhibition

2010-05-10 Thread Malcolm Smith
 Here's a little offering from the HOUR of webcam video I recorded last
 night. Included the exhibition photographs and some music to pad it out
 to 7 and a half minutes.
 
 Two places to see -
 
 Flash video on my website:
 
 http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/chicago.html

Really enjoy watching that, thanks for hosting it.

Malcolm


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Re: Brought to you by Tom C

2010-05-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/5/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well, that was fun.

[snip]

Excellent read, many tanks (sic) for that.

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RE: GESO: My Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Bob W
Some scary vertiginous stuff there. The 'Banksy' is very witty, whether it's
genuine or not. I'd love to see a close-up crop, just to see more detail and
see if I can tell if it's the real thing.

Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
 Behalf Of Tim Bray
 Sent: 10 May 2010 05:40
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 Subject: GESO: My Chicago
 
 My trip to Chicago was relatively unsuccessful aside from the 
 couple of hours I got to spend with the PDMLers, but I did 
 manage to take a couple of snaps that avoided the quick cull. 
  The slide-show is at 
 http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/ (only 8) but 
 since I can't figure out how to make Lightroom put individual 
 labels on its slideshow output, here are the ones that 
 deserve a little more
 comment:
 
 From the restaurant on the 95th floor of the Hancock - instead of
 paying $15 and up to look at the view from the observatory, 
 you can buy a very decent lunch for about the same unless you 
 drink which I did of course and the view is really extraordinary:
 http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089239_large.html
 
 I'm pretty sure this is a Banksy, the first live one I've ever seen:
 http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089241_large.html
 
 The big Picasso downtown, dressed for the hockey playoffs:
 http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089257_large.html
 
  -Tim


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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/5/10, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Anyway:

http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/

enjoy

What a quality selection. Two or three beckon my walls

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Re: For your great panoramas - gigapan

2010-05-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10/05/2010, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 So what can it do that I can't do with an *ist-D and a properly leveled
 tripod?

Let you push a button and relax whilst it does the hard yards.

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Re: geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 10 May 2010 01:46 -0500, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did 
 take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for 
 service--really fought with the focus this weekend.
 
 There are captions too.
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html
 



I think you're being unfairly hard on yourself.  That's a great GESO! 
Fun stuff *and* good.

That one of Larry (I think) behind the waterfall is wonderful.  And I'm
still smiling over the one with the three guys photographing the flowers
while ignoring the nicely posed couple.

Thanks for posting those.  I like the captions, too



Cheers

Brian

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Re: geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/5/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did
take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for
service--really fought with the focus this weekend.

There are captions too.
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html

I see I have some serious competition in the Captions Dept!

Great work Christine - many thanks for this.

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Re: PESO- Gold

2010-05-10 Thread eckinator
2010/5/10 Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com:

 Is that a typo? (60-20)?

That is what I thought, too, but then I decided, hey wait a moment the
smc DA* 60-20/4 has to be Pentax's new offering to both close another
focal length gap in their 16-17-18-45-50-55-70 millimeter range and at
the same time assure backwards compatibility with that range for the
60-250, hence the reversed notation and the special zoom-out design.
Ken Rockwell praised its innovative design with dedicated focal length
and focus rings instead of stupid menus.

Ecke

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Re: GESO: My Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/5/10, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed:

The slide-show is at
http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/

Thanks for posting Tim, really nice gallery. Difficult to tell if it's a
genuine Bansky, anything closer?

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Re: geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread eckinator
Fun GESO Christine - Miserere in You want me to photograph a brick
wall? has a definite Jean Reno stare going =)
Great gallery, great captions
Thanks for sharing
Ecke

2010/5/10 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 On Mon, 10 May 2010 01:46 -0500, Christine  Aguila
 cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did
 take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for
 service--really fought with the focus this weekend.

 There are captions too.
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html




 I think you're being unfairly hard on yourself.  That's a great GESO!
 Fun stuff *and* good.

 That one of Larry (I think) behind the waterfall is wonderful.  And I'm
 still smiling over the one with the three guys photographing the flowers
 while ignoring the nicely posed couple.

 Thanks for posting those.  I like the captions, too



 Cheers

 Brian

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RE: Brought to you by Tom C

2010-05-10 Thread Bob W
Yea, great. But how was the toothpaste?


 
 Ignore the last one. Friggin Microsoft.
 
 
 Well, that was fun.
 Even the plane rides were bearable.
 Thanks to the generosity of Tom, I was given the very 
 pleasurable opportunity to visit Chicago this past weekend.
 It happened that this weekend also coincided with the Chicago 
 Celtic Festival, so there was entertainment.
 But especially, there was the gallery opening for the PDML Show.
 
 So, I got to Chicago latish Thursday evening.
 The escape from Canada flight was on was on a scale model of 
 a very small cattle car that had jet powered wings.
 And, the buggers busted me for having too much toothpaste.
 But, I had no seatmate, so it was all good.
 The flight to Chicago was on a somewhat larger version of the 
 same thing, but my seatmate was a relatively small woman who 
 was quite decorative and friendly, and I had bought some 10 
 cent per ml Crest, so that was fine as well.
 When I debarked, Tom phoned and told me he was right outside.
 The seatmate led me through the terminal and off she went, 
 and a few moments later I was in the passenger seat of Tom's 
 Renta-A-Toyota.
 After checking out our room on the 27th floor of the downtown 
 Sheraton Posh Hotel, we found a little bar and had a nice 
 meal and drinks.
 I believe we closed the place.
 And then sat up until 4:00 catching up on stuff.
 The very next morning after too few hours sleep, we went for a walk.
 We found a very busy but efficient breakfast place called the 
 West Egg Cafe where we had a very nice breakfast.
 And Tom, I think you have to admit it was the best breakfast 
 we had, no matter what you thought at the time.
 And we found a very big lake.
 And we found Navy Pier.
 We found all sorts of cool stuff, and then we found Harry 
 Carey's, and we stopped for lunch.
 I think we both had the Blackened Tenderloin.
 It was quite wonderful, and washed down nicely with a nice ale.
 And we walked some more, and then went back to the hotel.
 It was a good day, and I would have been quite satisfied to 
 call it a success on many levels, but there was still more to come.
 For this was the night of the PDML Show opening.
 And off we went.
 Finding a liquor vendor along the way was a good thing to do, 
 so we laid in a supply of whiskey and wine for laters, and to 
 the gallery we went.
 It was quite fun. I met a whole bunch of PDML members who 
 also came to the show, and I also got to meet Sue, the 
 curator of the gallery.
  The show is well worth seeing. I had seen all of the 
 pictures on the web, but nothing prepared me for the 
 splendour that was hung on the walls of the Scharpenberg Gallery.
 We are an incredibly talented bunch of photographers, and I 
 am proud to be a member of this community.
 Talking about talented photographers, I coudn't believe that 
 Ted actually talked to me.
 I may not have given him any choice though.
 But he still talked to me.
 Actually, everyone was quite gracious.
 Especially Tom.
 After the show, Tom, Ann, Jay and myself went to a little 
 Pizzeria that served what I believe was a Chicago Style Deep 
 Dish Pizza.
 After that, a bottle of wine and a few hours of sleep, and we 
 found ourselves in the Sheraton's food for exorbitant profit 
 centre, and then off to the Chicago Art Institute and the 
 William Eggleston Exhibit.
 Gonzo Photography.
 I suspect that he and Hunter Thompson smoked a few together.
 And then some silly tourist photography, back to the gallery 
 for a dose of Matisse, and supper with the whole gang at a 
 place that Tom's Voodoo Device said was permanently closed.
 After we were done with it.
 But seriously, more good food, and I got to see Jostein's 
 book from his trip to Penguinland.
 More seriously good photography there, and then we were off 
 to the park, where loud music was calling.
 Apparently, we are too fucking old, because it chased us away.
 But I digress.
 Refreshing beverages were in order, but after making the 
 mistake of trying to park closer to the bar, and having an 
 epic fail with a parkade, Tom chickened out so we went back 
 to the hotel.
 Where we had a small but adequate stock of refreshing beverage.
 And then, far too soon, this morning and off to the airport.
 
 It was truly a pleasure to meet in person, more members of 
 this community. 
 Meeting Boris and Jostein was what I'll remember the most, 
 simply because of the effort that they made to be there.
 Seeing Ann again was truly a pleasure.
 Cory, did you really say you couldn't believe you were 
 shaking my hand?
 By my count, 18 of the 44 artists who have pictures in this 
 show were in attendance, and whether I was meeting you for 
 the first time or reacquainting myself with you, it was a 
 pleasure to be there.
 
 A friend of mine, who shoots a different brand of camera is 
 envious of what we have here.
 The PDML is, apparently, quite unique.
 
 And at the end of the day, it, and this show, would not have 
 happened, were it not for Doug 

RE: GESO: Critter

2010-05-10 Thread Bob W
 Bob W wrote:
  So you spend your weekend playing opossum?
 
  It was good to let it go.  They are fairly harmless.  They 
 do make a 
  nice stew, however, . . .
 
  
  How do they hold the stewpot with such little paws?
 
 With tiny little oven-mitts. How else?

Of course - how stupid of me!



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Re: PESO: The Winter Guard

2010-05-10 Thread eckinator
Beautiful. Just a tiny crop on the right perhaps =)
Cheers
Ecke

2010/5/10 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 On Saturday, my Rotary Club gave a reception honoring those who have
 made significant contributions to the community.  The highlight of the
 event was a performance by the Winter Guard from our local high
 school.  I was sitting fairly far back in the theater, far out of
 flash range, so I decided to test the high ISO performance of my
 camera:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10991077

 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are welcome.

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Re: PESO Barn (Dutch)

2010-05-10 Thread Toine
cloudy weather could/would be better for these flowers. I have other
shots with the same light and different crops. Getting the pink
correct is very difficult...
I think I need a set of those small plastic grey cards

On 09/05/2010, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 I suspect the strong lighting makes it more difficult to get the
 delicate pink color.  I really like the yellow flowers scattered
 throughout the middle of the pink ones.  I wish the lighting was a
 little softer - I don't think that helps the pink either.

 The barn and background trees don't really add to the pic - I would
 crop that out and then I think the subject that caught your eye becomes
 much stronger.

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 Sunday, May 9, 2010, 6:47:31 AM, you wrote:

 T And yet another subject which I normally don't grab: An old Barn in
 T the netherlands. The meadow in front grabbed my attention with the
 T pink Pinsterbloemen (Cardamine pratensis). The K20D had a hard time
 T capturing the soft pink. It needed a lot of lightroom power to display
 T the pink.

 T http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/131-barn-dutch

 T K20D DA35

 T Thanks in advance for watching.

 T Toine




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Re: PESO: The Winter Guard

2010-05-10 Thread Cory Waters

Very nice image Daniel.
CW

On 5/9/2010 8:33 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Saturday, my Rotary Club gave a reception honoring those who have
made significant contributions to the community.  The highlight of the
event was a performance by the Winter Guard from our local high
school.  I was sitting fairly far back in the theater, far out of
flash range, so I decided to test the high ISO performance of my
camera:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10991077

Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are welcome.

Dan





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Re: GESO - PDML Refus�s

2010-05-10 Thread mike wilson

 Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote: 
 I rejected this one by not sending it in:
 http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/Sq0e0U5ChP1EJoH8TViR2A?feat=directlink
 
 These two were rejected by the editors, presumptively because they're
 not cormorants:
 http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/1kGTPYcvc64EnB7H2hafow?feat=directlink

Confused (artistic) focus.

 http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/4IlMAuCnrHRIrfbhQpLlIQ?feat=directlink

Confused (physical) focus.



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Re: Peso April showers bring.........

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice shot.  You definitely need a K7 ;-)

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 ..May snow.

 Had a tiny bit of snow last night, not a whole lot, but enough to rest
 on the grass.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10994455

 Had to crop this as i could get the centre of the photo to not blow
 out, but the snow inside several other tulips were totally blown out.

 I think i need a K-7.:-)

 K10D D AF 50 f2.8

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Re: PESO- Gold

2010-05-10 Thread Jeffery Smith
I feel like you are Dilbert and I am the pointy haired boss. Shall I play 
along? We need to get one of those new tele to wide angle lenses.

On May 10, 2010, at 2:49 AM, eckinator wrote:

 2010/5/10 Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com:
 
 Is that a typo? (60-20)?
 
 That is what I thought, too, but then I decided, hey wait a moment the
 smc DA* 60-20/4 has to be Pentax's new offering to both close another
 focal length gap in their 16-17-18-45-50-55-70 millimeter range and at
 the same time assure backwards compatibility with that range for the
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 Ken Rockwell praised its innovative design with dedicated focal length
 and focus rings instead of stupid menus.
 
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PESO: Finch Pair

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
We have a very well utilized finch feeder. Keeps my wife and I entertained and 
somewhat occupied refilling and restocking thistle seeds.
I attached a couple wild mustard and thistle stalks to the feeder, to give it a 
more natural look, and reclined on the patio with my K20 and forever attached 
DA 55~300.
Taken from their shadow side. A little quieter image.

Comments?

Jack

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread paul stenquist
Well done! Love the porthole pic. A lot of excellent compositions here. Some 
classic art/spectator shots from the art institute. The Hopper painting really 
comes alive in your shot.

Paul
On May 9, 2010, at 11:44 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

 Most of these will not survive a more serious cull, but right now they don't 
 make me spew.
 
 All taken over the too little time I had for shooting in Chicago, just a 
 random collection with no thought to flow or chronological order. Friday 
 night is missing until I move them from the laptop to my working computer.
 
 Anyway:
 
 http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/
 
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Re: PESO- Gold

2010-05-10 Thread paul stenquist

On May 10, 2010, at 1:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: 27...@comcast.net
 Paul, looked at your bird photo and looked at some others and I like
 this T-ball phoro of yours...Joe
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9579965
 
 Is it T-ball? There's no T?

It was a T-ball league, but the coaches had the little tykes hitting pitches 
after just a few practices.

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Re: geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread paul stenquist
Very enjoyable. Nice work!
Paul


On May 10, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 10/5/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did
 take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for
 service--really fought with the focus this weekend.
 
 There are captions too.
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html
 
 I see I have some serious competition in the Captions Dept!
 
 Great work Christine - many thanks for this.
 
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Re: geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine  Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did 
take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for 
service--really fought with the focus this weekend.

There are captions too.
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/content/pdmlchiexhibit_42_2_large.html
Best photo of Doug Brewer ever.


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Something Funny Happened On the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
Thought I'd give my words and thoughts on the exhibit.

I was actually just finishing typing this up last night when Bill's
summary came through, and I sent it several times but nothing I
originated last night would get to the list.

It was wonderful to meet in person, those one has been acquainted with
for some to many years, +12 in some cases.

The printing job Mark did was astounding!  My gallery image had a
quality and feeling that did not come through on a digital display.
The same can be said for the other images.

The gallery was a work of art... far more inspiriting than the
Eggleston gallery at the Art Institute we visited. :-)

Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent job of organizing and
implementing the event. For those who weren't able to attend, you'll
be happy to know that we were all treated and respected as
photographers and artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.

As in any group some clicked and bonded more readily than others with
various members, but things were so fast paced that it was a matter of
not having the time to make the rounds in detail. The cooperation and
goodwill among the PDML members, curators, and visitors was
impressive.  It was noisy, high energy, and for being only three
hours, pretty exhausting.

This was an event the PDML can be singularly proud of, participant or not.

The event and sales also benefit children who are victims of cancer
and their families.  So if hesitant to purchase additional books or
possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming event, that may be announced,
please consider doing so to the extent possible, according to your
desire and means.

In particular I got to spend a fair amount of time with Christine, Bob
Sullivan, Stan Halpin, Doug Brewer, Ann Sanfedele, Mark Roberts and
(embarrassed... forget his wife's name), Boris, Larry Colen, Chris
Mitchell and wife, Tim Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory waters and his beautiful
wife. Cory's photograph took on magical properties in print. Sorry if
I left anyone out.

Bill Robb and I stayed up till 4AM one morning and 2AM the next
talking about everything and trying to comprehend the meaning of life
and Time-Space. I'm happy to report we just about have it figured out
and will give an update when we've completed our analysis and have
reached a definitive conclusion.

I never knew Bill slept in the RAW before. I'd have expected long
johns, with him being from Canada and that.  Of course it might have
felt like a heatwave to him down south in Chicago - or maybe it's
something related to digital. The GPS had a hard time getting a
consistent signal in the valley of skyscrapers which is downtown
Chicago.  Twice it went into a mode where it was recalculating at east
once per block without the vehicle changing direction.  So sometimes
it took us 20 minutes to get to a destination when it should have
taken under 5.

Chicago was a great photo venue and I'm sure many photos of members
and the areas we visited will soon start appearing.

To sum it up, You were great. You were fantastic. You were great. You
were all great!

Tom C

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Re: PESO: Finch Pair

2010-05-10 Thread eckinator
my first thought of it was to recall Frank's image and think this
could be called interactions, too... as in I didn't look so much at
the picture but at the potential relationship / ongoings between the
birds... jury still out on the image but it had an effect which is
more than many other shots can claim =)
thanks for sharing
ecke

2010/5/10 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 We have a very well utilized finch feeder. Keeps my wife and I entertained 
 and somewhat occupied refilling and restocking thistle seeds.
 I attached a couple wild mustard and thistle stalks to the feeder, to give it 
 a more natural look, and reclined on the patio with my K20 and forever 
 attached DA 55~300.
 Taken from their shadow side. A little quieter image.

 Comments?

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=499

 f/8, 1/1500, @300mm.









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Re: geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Chris Mitchell
Don't be modest - they're really good! The one of Larry behind the water is 
exceptional.

Chris
 
 From: Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 Date: 2010/05/10 Mon AM 06:46:07 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: geso pdmlers in chicago
 
 Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did 
 take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for 
 service--really fought with the focus this weekend.
 
 There are captions too.
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html
 
 Cheers, Christine 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: Finch Pair

2010-05-10 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 05:04:55AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
 We have a very well utilized finch feeder. Keeps my wife and I entertained 
 and somewhat occupied refilling and restocking thistle seeds.
 I attached a couple wild mustard and thistle stalks to the feeder, to give it 
 a more natural look, and reclined on the patio with my K20 and forever 
 attached DA 55~300.
 Taken from their shadow side. A little quieter image.
 
 Comments?
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=499
 
 f/8, 1/1500, @300mm.

That's not a bad shot.  I like the vertical stacking of the birds in the 
horizontal frame. 
You need to go back in a week or so when the male is in full breeding plumage 
and tell 
the female to keep her tail feathers out of the male's face :-)

How much cropping and/or post-processing was involved?  It looks like some 
sharpening artifacts 
are visible on the female's head.

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Re: PESO- Gold

2010-05-10 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 07:27:16PM -0400, P N Stenquist wrote:
 This isn't much of a bird photo, but it's a very nice bird. Perhaps
 the brightest colored goldfinch I've seen. Shot on the feeder this
 afternoon with the DA* 60-20. Cropped to about 1/3 of frame. Have to
 go back out there with the 400 and see if I can find him again.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10994711

That is a pretty little bird.  Nice bokeh on that lens too...

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Re: PESO: Finch Pair

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
Heavily cropped from the silhouette side. They weren't completely black, but 
lacked much detail. PS'd mainly to reduce shadows.
Actually, I've come to prefer this subdued light. So many sunny side male finch 
shots are seriously blown out. I've resorted to a -1/2 comp to help control the 
bloom on their feathers.
Yeah, I noted the edge artifacts, but a very conservative sharpening nudge was 
applied.

Thanks for commenting, Christian!

Jack


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 From: Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Pair
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 5:41 AM
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 05:04:55AM
 -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
  We have a very well utilized finch feeder. Keeps my
 wife and I entertained and somewhat occupied refilling and
 restocking thistle seeds.
  I attached a couple wild mustard and thistle stalks to
 the feeder, to give it a more natural look, and reclined on
 the patio with my K20 and forever attached DA 55~300.
  Taken from their shadow side. A little quieter
 image.
  
  Comments?
  
  Jack
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=499
  
  f/8, 1/1500, @300mm.
 
 That's not a bad shot.  I like the vertical stacking
 of the birds in the horizontal frame. 
 You need to go back in a week or so when the male is in
 full breeding plumage and tell 
 the female to keep her tail feathers out of the male's face
 :-)
 
 How much cropping and/or post-processing was
 involved?  It looks like some sharpening artifacts 
 are visible on the female's head.
 
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 http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com
 
 
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Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
Nothing I originated last night made it to the list or achives.
Reply-to's got through but not e-mails I composed from scratch.  Maybe
the file had a spurious character in it somewhere.  Today my e-mail
shows up in the archive, but Haven't seen it come back at me through
regular mail yet.

Tom C.

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Cotty
I tried to.

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Re: GESO: My Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a very interesting and varied gallery, Tim.  I really enjoyed it.

Dan

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 My trip to Chicago was relatively unsuccessful aside from the couple
 of hours I got to spend with the PDMLers, but I did manage to take a
 couple of snaps that avoided the quick cull.  The slide-show is at
 http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/ (only 8) but since I can't
 figure out how to make Lightroom put individual labels on its
 slideshow output, here are the ones that deserve a little more
 comment:

 From the restaurant on the 95th floor of the Hancock - instead of
 paying $15 and up to look at the view from the observatory, you can
 buy a very decent lunch for about the same unless you drink which I
 did of course and the view is really extraordinary:
 http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089239_large.html

 I'm pretty sure this is a Banksy, the first live one I've ever seen:
 http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089241_large.html

 The big Picasso downtown, dressed for the hockey playoffs:
 http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089257_large.html

  -Tim

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Re: PESO: The Winter Guard

2010-05-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Ecke and Cory!

Dan

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Very nice image Daniel.
 CW

 On 5/9/2010 8:33 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 On Saturday, my Rotary Club gave a reception honoring those who have
 made significant contributions to the community.  The highlight of the
 event was a performance by the Winter Guard from our local high
 school.  I was sitting fairly far back in the theater, far out of
 flash range, so I decided to test the high ISO performance of my
 camera:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10991077

 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are welcome.

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
Well at least I know you're listening... Thanks.

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a great gallery, IMO.  I love the variety of unusual
perspectives that transform relatively ordinary subjects into very
interesting concepts.

Dan

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Most of these will not survive a more serious cull, but right now they don't
 make me spew.

 All taken over the too little time I had for shooting in Chicago, just a
 random collection with no thought to flow or chronological order. Friday
 night is missing until I move them from the laptop to my working computer.

 Anyway:

 http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/

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Re: geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Christine, for sharing that wonderful gallery with us.  It
gives those of us you couldn't get to Chicago this weekend a glimpse
into what it was like.

Dan

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did
 take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for
 service--really fought with the focus this weekend.

 There are captions too.
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html

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Back from Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Wow, what an exhausting weekend!

Great fun, though, and always a pleasure (so far!) to meet in person
PDMLers whom I've only known via email up until now.

As you have all heard, the gallery reception was brilliant. Very nice
job by Dank Haus and Christine organizing the event. Remarkable job by
Cotty getting any usable video from the web feed!

I did take photos during the course of the weekend but I haven't
looked at any of them yet. They may be total crap. But I had a good
time anyway.

I had a stack of Image Wrap books for those who requested them. They
were all taken, including the one I'd planned on keeping for myself
(or turning over to Jay Taylor, who requested one after the order had
been placed). Unfortunately, the amount received in payment by the end
of the evening came out short. Bill Rob and arranged that he'd Pay Pal
me money for his two. Chris Mitchell paid for all his first thing. And
I'm probably missing a couple of others who paid in the midst of the
crowd (yes, it got crowded - who'da thunk?) and the cheap champagne,
but we're still $316.00 shy of what should have been taken in for the
books so we'll do it on the honor system: If you picked up any books
and couldn't get payment to me at the time (kind of understandable,
under the circumstances) let me know and you can mail me a check or
Pay Pal it to me.

Here's who *should* have received books in Chicago:
 Image Wrap books for Chicago
 1-4 - Chris Mitchell (for himself, Bob W, Ecke and Dario Bonazza)
 5 - Mark Roberts
 6  7 - Jostein
 8 - Doug Brewer
 9 - Christine (for Bill Robb)
 10 - Bruce Dayton (possibly being picked up by Larry?)
 12 - Stan Halpin
 12 - Cory Waters (for Doug Franklin)
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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a great gallery, IMO.  I love the variety of unusual
perspectives that transform relatively ordinary subjects into very
interesting concepts.

You'd never guess he'd seen an Eggleston exhibit that weekend, huh?
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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think Cotty was the spurious character.

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Re: OT - They're Calling For Snow Tonight

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
You mean it stops snowing in Canada at some point?

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 It's May!

 AAGGG!!

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

Tim Bray wrote:

Cool.  I like the El with the reflection on it best.  -Tim


Thanks, Tim. It was great to meet you and chat with you about the PDML 
as an  entity.





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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

Cotty wrote:

On 9/5/10, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


Anyway:

http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/

enjoy


What a quality selection. Two or three beckon my walls


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Re: PESO: The Railroad Dining Car Diner

2010-05-10 Thread Rick Womer
I really  like the interior shot.  Pity about the pole in the exterior one.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: PESO: The Railroad Dining Car Diner
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 2:53 PM
 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/the-railroad-dining-car-diner
 
 Comments, criticisms, suggestions and abuse are always
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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

paul stenquist wrote:

Well done! Love the porthole pic. A lot of excellent compositions here. Some 
classic art/spectator shots from the art institute. The Hopper painting really 
comes alive in your shot.

Paul


Thanks, Paul. The porthole pic was taken in a new little museum in one 
of the bridge towers where Wacker crosses Michigan Ave. They had no 
admission, an attractively flexible woman asking folks to come in, and 
free T-shirts.


Wandering through the AIC was a dream come true, and I was gald to be 
able to visit some of the work I adore, like the Hopper and some Winslow 
Homer stuff and Grant Wood and of course the Egglestons.





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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a great gallery, IMO.  I love the variety of unusual
perspectives that transform relatively ordinary subjects into very
interesting concepts.

Dan


Thanks, Dan. Chicago is a very interesting place.




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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

Mark Roberts wrote:

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


That is a great gallery, IMO.  I love the variety of unusual
perspectives that transform relatively ordinary subjects into very
interesting concepts.


You'd never guess he'd seen an Eggleston exhibit that weekend, huh?
;-)




yeah, I had the color thing happening, but I still loves me some geometry.

Incidentally, that's Jay Taylor's arm in front of the Eggleston print. 
Got away with that one before the guard shouted me down.


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PESO: Finch Pair II

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
Pumped the yellow somewhat.

Jack

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
I totally missed Hopper's Nighthawks.  That's been a favorite image
of mine since elementary school.  I'd have loved to have seen it.  I
always imagine myself in the diner drinking a cup of coffee out of a
heavy ceramic mug with a thick rounded lip.

Tom C.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 paul stenquist wrote:

 Well done! Love the porthole pic. A lot of excellent compositions here.
 Some classic art/spectator shots from the art institute. The Hopper painting
 really comes alive in your shot.

 Paul

 Thanks, Paul. The porthole pic was taken in a new little museum in one of
 the bridge towers where Wacker crosses Michigan Ave. They had no admission,
 an attractively flexible woman asking folks to come in, and free T-shirts.

 Wandering through the AIC was a dream come true, and I was gald to be able
 to visit some of the work I adore, like the Hopper and some Winslow Homer
 stuff and Grant Wood and of course the Egglestons.



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Re: PESO: Finch Pair II

2010-05-10 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:07:37AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
 Pumped the yellow somewhat.
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500
 

Yes, but the female's olvive coloring has now gone orange...  :-) The male is
just not in full breeding color yet so he is just a little drab that's all.  No 
need to try to make color where it doesn't exist naturally. :-)

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread mike wilson

 Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: 
 I tried to.

I tried to, too.

Desmond.

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Roberts
BTW, this shot:
http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/content/DBK70454_large.html
needs someone riding a bicycle through it. :)


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Re: Group Shot at Sharpenberg Gallery

2010-05-10 Thread Miserere
I sneaked out just in time it seems. Good thing too, I wouldn't want
my face out there for the whole World to see because then I'd be
recognised and wouldn't be able to do my street photography incognito.

For Doug's benefit: ;-)


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On 09/05/2010, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Awww, so sorry I didn't stay for the shot.  I got one of those
 Unfortunate Phone Calls from home that took me away early and kept me
 from the post-opening celebrations.

 So nice to have met you all.  - Tim

 On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Christine  Aguila
 cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Cotty and Everyone on the List:  I'm so sorry I didn't get this up in
 time for you. I got home around 1 a.m Friday, crashed, got up Sat  met
 everyone at 10:30 a.m. at the Art Institute  I didn't get home Sat until
 after midnight  I've started the download of pics from the weekend and got
 this up for you, but obviously it's late.  Please forgive.

 It's the best of the lot.  We had problems getting a good shot--flash
 problems, but Larry came to the rescue with the Pentax 540.

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 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlgroup/content/pdmlchiexhibit_23_large.html

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Re: Brought to you by Tom C

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

William Robb wrote:

Ignore the last one. Friggin Microsoft.


Well, that was fun.


aw, now I feel bad for flipping you off so many times.

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Re: GESO: My Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Tim Bray
Here's a close-up crop on the Banksy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbray/4593955191/

And, yes, it's genuine:
http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/TABLE/table_bgrd_10_10_USA.jpg

 -Tim (Total Banksy fan)

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 On 9/5/10, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed:

The slide-show is at
http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/

 Thanks for posting Tim, really nice gallery. Difficult to tell if it's a
 genuine Bansky, anything closer?

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Back from Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Theodore Beilby
Diane and I made it home last night around 9:00 PM. Only one scary incident 
when a minivan thought they should have the space we were in at 70mph. Managed 
to avoid crumpled car by a couple of inches and a loud curse. I can't say how 
much I enjoyed being with all that attended. Will be posting some shots when I 
have a chance later today. Few local chores to take care of first. 
In response to the webcam chat, I only had one small glass of bubbly at the 
reception. Diane and I spent Friday at the Botanical Gardens so will probably 
post a couple from there also.   

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Redo: Back from Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

but we're still $316.00 shy of what should have been taken in for the
books so we'll do it on the honor system: If you picked up any books
and couldn't get payment to me at the time (kind of understandable,
under the circumstances) let me know and you can mail me a check or
Pay Pal it to me.

Just re-did the math and we're only $281 short. 
Still money I'd rather not pay out of pocket ;-)


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Re: Redo: Back from Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Just re-did the math and we're only $281 short.
 Still money I'd rather not pay out of pocket ;-)

Just keep re-doing the math until everyone's square.

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Lightroom workflow Q

2010-05-10 Thread Cory Waters
I have lightroom on my macbook and also on my desktop.  I usually do most of my 
work on my desktop but occsionally, like when I'm away from home, I'll upload 
photos to my laptop to clear my flash cards and have a look at what's I've 
got.  It's no problem then to copy those photos over to my desktop on my home 
network and import them into my desktop library.  I just go to the folder with 
the photos from the appropriate dates and plant it in the correct folder on the 
other box.  When I import them into the library, they get coppied to my NAS for 
another safety copy.  
The hitch here is:  I'm likely to have made changes to the photo like keywords, 
developing adjustments, or selection to a collection while I was looking at 
them on the laptop.  Is there any way to import the photos to my desktop 
library with the changes?  
I'd also like to mirror my collections from the laptop on the desktop.  I'll be 
picking photos from my trip to, I duno, lets say u Chicago? that I want to 
put up on my Smugmug page but when I get home, the only way I know of to 
get that collection on my desktop is to make a list of file #s in the 
collection and manually select them again.

I'm not sure if I've been clear here so poke me if you don't understand what 
I'm after.  I'll try again.
Thanks,
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Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
Thought I'd give my words and thoughts on the exhibit and Chicago trip.

I was actually just finishing typing this up last night when Bill's
summary came through, and I sent it several times but nothing I
originated last night would get to the list.

It was wonderful to meet, in person, those I'd been acquainted with
for some time on line, +12 years in some cases. We met Christine and
Doug at the entrance on the sidewalk.  Instant smiles and hugs.

Bill was Canadian.

The printing job Mark did was astounding! My gallery image had a
quality and feeling that did not come through on a digital display.
The same can be said for the other images.  Cory's was magical in
print.

The gallery was a work of art... far more inspiring than the Eggleston
gallery at the Art Institute. :-) Seriously, but my own photographs
taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at the age of 8 would have rivaled
Eggleston's. No don't take that as a brag, I was a terrible
photographer at 8, always wanting to see the film in the camera, which
did not help matters.

Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent job of organizing and
implementing the event.  For those unable to attend, you'll be happy
to know that we were treated and respected as photographers and
artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.

As in any group, some clicked and bonded more readily than others with
various members, but things were so fast-paced that it was a matter of
not having the time to make the rounds in detail. The cooperation and
goodwill among the PDML members, curators, and vistors was impressive.
 It was noisy, high energy, and for being only three hours, pretty
exhausting.

This was an event the PDML can be singularly proud of, participant or not.

The event and sales also benefit children who are victims of cancer
and their families. So, if hesitant to purchase additional books, or
possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming event that may be announced,
please consider doing so to the extent possible, according to your
desire and means.

In particular, I got to spend a fair amount of time with Christine,
Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife, Stan Halpin, Doug Brewer, Mark Roberts
and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen, Chris Mitchell and his wife, Tim
Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters and his wife. Sorry if I left anyone
out.  I think I at least met all the PDML members present.

Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and I, stayed up till 4 AM one morning and
2 AM the next, talking about everything and trying to comprehend the
meaning of life and Space-Time. I'm happy to report that we just about
have it figured out and we'll give an update when we've completed our
analysis and have reached a definitive conclusion. Bill, I told you we
needed just one more bottle.

I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He told me he gets better
pictures that way.  I'd have expected footed long johns, with him
being from Canada and that. Of course it might have felt like a
heatwave to him down south in Chicago - or maybe it's something
related to digital? Hard to tell what it was all aboot.

The GPS had a hard time getting a consistent signal in the valley of
skyscrapers they call downtown. Twice it went into a mode where it was
recalculating every 15 seconds even when we had not changed direction.
So sometimes it took us 20 minutes to get somewhere when ot should
have taken just 5.

Chicago was a great photo venue and I'm sure many photos of members
and the areas we visited will start appearing.

A good time was had by all.

To sum it up, You were great. You were fantastic. You were great. You
were ALL great!

Tom C.

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Re: PESO: Finch Pair II

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
As stated, having been shot in the shadows, the original idea was to stay with 
subdued color to produce a quiet scene. I pumped it for you. 
Plus..changing the color gave me a feeling of power. ;)
This, a rhetorical post.

Jack

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 From: Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Pair II
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:13 AM
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:07:37AM
 -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
  Pumped the yellow somewhat.
  
  Jack
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500
  
 
 Yes, but the female's olvive coloring has now gone
 orange...  :-) The male is
 just not in full breeding color yet so he is just a little
 drab that's all.  No 
 need to try to make color where it doesn't exist naturally.
 :-)
 
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Re: Lightroom workflow Q

2010-05-10 Thread Tim Bray
I wrote about my approach to this problem at
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/04/05/Lightroom-sync-with-rsync

Does that help?  -Tim

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I have lightroom on my macbook and also on my desktop.  I usually do most of 
 my work on my desktop but occsionally, like when I'm away from home, I'll 
 upload photos to my laptop to clear my flash cards and have a look at what's 
 I've got.  It's no problem then to copy those photos over to my desktop on my 
 home network and import them into my desktop library.  I just go to the 
 folder with the photos from the appropriate dates and plant it in the correct 
 folder on the other box.  When I import them into the library, they get 
 coppied to my NAS for another safety copy.
 The hitch here is:  I'm likely to have made changes to the photo like 
 keywords, developing adjustments, or selection to a collection while I was 
 looking at them on the laptop.  Is there any way to import the photos to my 
 desktop library with the changes?
 I'd also like to mirror my collections from the laptop on the desktop.  I'll 
 be picking photos from my trip to, I duno, lets say u Chicago? that I 
 want to put up on my Smugmug page but when I get home, the only way I know of 
 to get that collection on my desktop is to make a list of file #s in the 
 collection and manually select them again.

 I'm not sure if I've been clear here so poke me if you don't understand what 
 I'm after.  I'll try again.
 Thanks,
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Re: Lightroom workflow Q

2010-05-10 Thread Tim Bray
Oh, and (replying to myself) should note that that was written in 2008
and it's been working for me just fine since then. -Tim

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 I wrote about my approach to this problem at
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/04/05/Lightroom-sync-with-rsync

 Does that help?  -Tim

 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I have lightroom on my macbook and also on my desktop.  I usually do most of 
 my work on my desktop but occsionally, like when I'm away from home, I'll 
 upload photos to my laptop to clear my flash cards and have a look at what's 
 I've got.  It's no problem then to copy those photos over to my desktop on 
 my home network and import them into my desktop library.  I just go to the 
 folder with the photos from the appropriate dates and plant it in the 
 correct folder on the other box.  When I import them into the library, they 
 get coppied to my NAS for another safety copy.
 The hitch here is:  I'm likely to have made changes to the photo like 
 keywords, developing adjustments, or selection to a collection while I was 
 looking at them on the laptop.  Is there any way to import the photos to my 
 desktop library with the changes?
 I'd also like to mirror my collections from the laptop on the desktop.  I'll 
 be picking photos from my trip to, I duno, lets say u Chicago? that I 
 want to put up on my Smugmug page but when I get home, the only way I know 
 of to get that collection on my desktop is to make a list of file #s in 
 the collection and manually select them again.

 I'm not sure if I've been clear here so poke me if you don't understand what 
 I'm after.  I'll try again.
 Thanks,
 CW


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List Character Limit?

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
I've been trying to get my summary of the Chicago trip out to thelist
since 11 local time last night.

It didn't go then.  I just retyped the whole thing by hand, thinking
I'd eliminate whatever was making fall into a black hole event horizon
but no luck so far as I can tell

It's 3489 characters according to MS Word

Thanks,

Tom

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Re: List Character Limit?

2010-05-10 Thread Subash
On Mon, 10 May 2010 11:36:18 -0400
Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been trying to get my summary of the Chicago trip out to thelist
 since 11 local time last night.
 
 It didn't go then.  I just retyped the whole thing by hand, thinking
 I'd eliminate whatever was making fall into a black hole event horizon
 but no luck so far as I can tell
 
 It's 3489 characters according to MS Word

Tom, your something funny happened on the way to chicago' mail has
hit the list twice already today. enjoyed reading it too...

regards, subash

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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
This it, Tom C?

Jack

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08 AM
 Thought I'd give my words and
 thoughts on the exhibit and Chicago trip.
 
 I was actually just finishing typing this up last night
 when Bill's
 summary came through, and I sent it several times but
 nothing I
 originated last night would get to the list.
 
 It was wonderful to meet, in person, those I'd been
 acquainted with
 for some time on line, +12 years in some cases. We met
 Christine and
 Doug at the entrance on the sidewalk.  Instant smiles
 and hugs.
 
 Bill was Canadian.
 
 The printing job Mark did was astounding! My gallery image
 had a
 quality and feeling that did not come through on a digital
 display.
 The same can be said for the other images.  Cory's was
 magical in
 print.
 
 The gallery was a work of art... far more inspiring than
 the Eggleston
 gallery at the Art Institute. :-) Seriously, but my own
 photographs
 taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at the age of 8 would have
 rivaled
 Eggleston's. No don't take that as a brag, I was a
 terrible
 photographer at 8, always wanting to see the film in the
 camera, which
 did not help matters.
 
 Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent job of organizing
 and
 implementing the event.  For those unable to attend,
 you'll be happy
 to know that we were treated and respected as photographers
 and
 artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.
 
 As in any group, some clicked and bonded more readily than
 others with
 various members, but things were so fast-paced that it was
 a matter of
 not having the time to make the rounds in detail. The
 cooperation and
 goodwill among the PDML members, curators, and vistors was
 impressive.
  It was noisy, high energy, and for being only three hours,
 pretty
 exhausting.
 
 This was an event the PDML can be singularly proud of,
 participant or not.
 
 The event and sales also benefit children who are victims
 of cancer
 and their families. So, if hesitant to purchase additional
 books, or
 possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming event that may be
 announced,
 please consider doing so to the extent possible, according
 to your
 desire and means.
 
 In particular, I got to spend a fair amount of time with
 Christine,
 Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife, Stan Halpin, Doug Brewer,
 Mark Roberts
 and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen, Chris Mitchell and his
 wife, Tim
 Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters and his wife. Sorry if I left
 anyone
 out.  I think I at least met all the PDML members
 present.
 
 Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and I, stayed up till 4 AM one
 morning and
 2 AM the next, talking about everything and trying to
 comprehend the
 meaning of life and Space-Time. I'm happy to report that we
 just about
 have it figured out and we'll give an update when we've
 completed our
 analysis and have reached a definitive conclusion. Bill, I
 told you we
 needed just one more bottle.
 
 I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He told me he
 gets better
 pictures that way.  I'd have expected footed long
 johns, with him
 being from Canada and that. Of course it might have felt
 like a
 heatwave to him down south in Chicago - or maybe it's
 something
 related to digital? Hard to tell what it was all aboot.
 
 The GPS had a hard time getting a consistent signal in the
 valley of
 skyscrapers they call downtown. Twice it went into a mode
 where it was
 recalculating every 15 seconds even when we had not changed
 direction.
 So sometimes it took us 20 minutes to get somewhere when ot
 should
 have taken just 5.
 
 Chicago was a great photo venue and I'm sure many photos of
 members
 and the areas we visited will start appearing.
 
 A good time was had by all.
 
 To sum it up, You were great. You were fantastic. You were
 great. You
 were ALL great!
 
 Tom C.
 
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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
Yes thanks. Did it come to yor mailbox or only in the archives?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 This it, Tom C?

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08 AM
 Thought I'd give my words and
 thoughts on the exhibit and Chicago trip.

 I was actually just finishing typing this up last night
 when Bill's
 summary came through, and I sent it several times but
 nothing I
 originated last night would get to the list.

 It was wonderful to meet, in person, those I'd been
 acquainted with
 for some time on line, +12 years in some cases. We met
 Christine and
 Doug at the entrance on the sidewalk.  Instant smiles
 and hugs.

 Bill was Canadian.

 The printing job Mark did was astounding! My gallery image
 had a
 quality and feeling that did not come through on a digital
 display.
 The same can be said for the other images.  Cory's was
 magical in
 print.

 The gallery was a work of art... far more inspiring than
 the Eggleston
 gallery at the Art Institute. :-) Seriously, but my own
 photographs
 taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at the age of 8 would have
 rivaled
 Eggleston's. No don't take that as a brag, I was a
 terrible
 photographer at 8, always wanting to see the film in the
 camera, which
 did not help matters.

 Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent job of organizing
 and
 implementing the event.  For those unable to attend,
 you'll be happy
 to know that we were treated and respected as photographers
 and
 artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.

 As in any group, some clicked and bonded more readily than
 others with
 various members, but things were so fast-paced that it was
 a matter of
 not having the time to make the rounds in detail. The
 cooperation and
 goodwill among the PDML members, curators, and vistors was
 impressive.
  It was noisy, high energy, and for being only three hours,
 pretty
 exhausting.

 This was an event the PDML can be singularly proud of,
 participant or not.

 The event and sales also benefit children who are victims
 of cancer
 and their families. So, if hesitant to purchase additional
 books, or
 possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming event that may be
 announced,
 please consider doing so to the extent possible, according
 to your
 desire and means.

 In particular, I got to spend a fair amount of time with
 Christine,
 Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife, Stan Halpin, Doug Brewer,
 Mark Roberts
 and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen, Chris Mitchell and his
 wife, Tim
 Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters and his wife. Sorry if I left
 anyone
 out.  I think I at least met all the PDML members
 present.

 Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and I, stayed up till 4 AM one
 morning and
 2 AM the next, talking about everything and trying to
 comprehend the
 meaning of life and Space-Time. I'm happy to report that we
 just about
 have it figured out and we'll give an update when we've
 completed our
 analysis and have reached a definitive conclusion. Bill, I
 told you we
 needed just one more bottle.

 I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He told me he
 gets better
 pictures that way.  I'd have expected footed long
 johns, with him
 being from Canada and that. Of course it might have felt
 like a
 heatwave to him down south in Chicago - or maybe it's
 something
 related to digital? Hard to tell what it was all aboot.

 The GPS had a hard time getting a consistent signal in the
 valley of
 skyscrapers they call downtown. Twice it went into a mode
 where it was
 recalculating every 15 seconds even when we had not changed
 direction.
 So sometimes it took us 20 minutes to get somewhere when ot
 should
 have taken just 5.

 Chicago was a great photo venue and I'm sure many photos of
 members
 and the areas we visited will start appearing.

 A good time was had by all.

 To sum it up, You were great. You were fantastic. You were
 great. You
 were ALL great!

 Tom C.

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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
Mail box. (PDML folder)

J

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:55 AM
 Yes thanks. Did it come to yor
 mailbox or only in the archives?
 
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  This it, Tom C?
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  Subject: Something Funny Happened on the Way to
 Chicago
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08 AM
  Thought I'd give my words and
  thoughts on the exhibit and Chicago trip.
 
  I was actually just finishing typing this up last
 night
  when Bill's
  summary came through, and I sent it several times
 but
  nothing I
  originated last night would get to the list.
 
  It was wonderful to meet, in person, those I'd
 been
  acquainted with
  for some time on line, +12 years in some cases. We
 met
  Christine and
  Doug at the entrance on the sidewalk.  Instant
 smiles
  and hugs.
 
  Bill was Canadian.
 
  The printing job Mark did was astounding! My
 gallery image
  had a
  quality and feeling that did not come through on a
 digital
  display.
  The same can be said for the other images. 
 Cory's was
  magical in
  print.
 
  The gallery was a work of art... far more
 inspiring than
  the Eggleston
  gallery at the Art Institute. :-) Seriously, but
 my own
  photographs
  taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at the age of 8 would
 have
  rivaled
  Eggleston's. No don't take that as a brag, I was
 a
  terrible
  photographer at 8, always wanting to see the film
 in the
  camera, which
  did not help matters.
 
  Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent job of
 organizing
  and
  implementing the event.  For those unable to
 attend,
  you'll be happy
  to know that we were treated and respected as
 photographers
  and
  artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.
 
  As in any group, some clicked and bonded more
 readily than
  others with
  various members, but things were so fast-paced
 that it was
  a matter of
  not having the time to make the rounds in detail.
 The
  cooperation and
  goodwill among the PDML members, curators, and
 vistors was
  impressive.
   It was noisy, high energy, and for being only
 three hours,
  pretty
  exhausting.
 
  This was an event the PDML can be singularly proud
 of,
  participant or not.
 
  The event and sales also benefit children who are
 victims
  of cancer
  and their families. So, if hesitant to purchase
 additional
  books, or
  possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming event that
 may be
  announced,
  please consider doing so to the extent possible,
 according
  to your
  desire and means.
 
  In particular, I got to spend a fair amount of
 time with
  Christine,
  Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife, Stan Halpin, Doug
 Brewer,
  Mark Roberts
  and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen, Chris Mitchell
 and his
  wife, Tim
  Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters and his wife. Sorry
 if I left
  anyone
  out.  I think I at least met all the PDML
 members
  present.
 
  Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and I, stayed up till
 4 AM one
  morning and
  2 AM the next, talking about everything and trying
 to
  comprehend the
  meaning of life and Space-Time. I'm happy to
 report that we
  just about
  have it figured out and we'll give an update when
 we've
  completed our
  analysis and have reached a definitive conclusion.
 Bill, I
  told you we
  needed just one more bottle.
 
  I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He told me
 he
  gets better
  pictures that way.  I'd have expected footed
 long
  johns, with him
  being from Canada and that. Of course it might
 have felt
  like a
  heatwave to him down south in Chicago - or maybe
 it's
  something
  related to digital? Hard to tell what it was all
 aboot.
 
  The GPS had a hard time getting a consistent
 signal in the
  valley of
  skyscrapers they call downtown. Twice it went into
 a mode
  where it was
  recalculating every 15 seconds even when we had
 not changed
  direction.
  So sometimes it took us 20 minutes to get
 somewhere when ot
  should
  have taken just 5.
 
  Chicago was a great photo venue and I'm sure many
 photos of
  members
  and the areas we visited will start appearing.
 
  A good time was had by all.
 
  To sum it up, You were great. You were fantastic.
 You were
  great. You
  were ALL great!
 
  Tom C.
 
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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
Crap NOW I look like an idiot.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Mail box. (PDML folder)

 J

 --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:55 AM
 Yes thanks. Did it come to yor
 mailbox or only in the archives?

 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  This it, Tom C?
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  Subject: Something Funny Happened on the Way to
 Chicago
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08 AM
  Thought I'd give my words and
  thoughts on the exhibit and Chicago trip.
 
  I was actually just finishing typing this up last
 night
  when Bill's
  summary came through, and I sent it several times
 but
  nothing I
  originated last night would get to the list.
 
  It was wonderful to meet, in person, those I'd
 been
  acquainted with
  for some time on line, +12 years in some cases. We
 met
  Christine and
  Doug at the entrance on the sidewalk.  Instant
 smiles
  and hugs.
 
  Bill was Canadian.
 
  The printing job Mark did was astounding! My
 gallery image
  had a
  quality and feeling that did not come through on a
 digital
  display.
  The same can be said for the other images.
 Cory's was
  magical in
  print.
 
  The gallery was a work of art... far more
 inspiring than
  the Eggleston
  gallery at the Art Institute. :-) Seriously, but
 my own
  photographs
  taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at the age of 8 would
 have
  rivaled
  Eggleston's. No don't take that as a brag, I was
 a
  terrible
  photographer at 8, always wanting to see the film
 in the
  camera, which
  did not help matters.
 
  Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent job of
 organizing
  and
  implementing the event.  For those unable to
 attend,
  you'll be happy
  to know that we were treated and respected as
 photographers
  and
  artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.
 
  As in any group, some clicked and bonded more
 readily than
  others with
  various members, but things were so fast-paced
 that it was
  a matter of
  not having the time to make the rounds in detail.
 The
  cooperation and
  goodwill among the PDML members, curators, and
 vistors was
  impressive.
   It was noisy, high energy, and for being only
 three hours,
  pretty
  exhausting.
 
  This was an event the PDML can be singularly proud
 of,
  participant or not.
 
  The event and sales also benefit children who are
 victims
  of cancer
  and their families. So, if hesitant to purchase
 additional
  books, or
  possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming event that
 may be
  announced,
  please consider doing so to the extent possible,
 according
  to your
  desire and means.
 
  In particular, I got to spend a fair amount of
 time with
  Christine,
  Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife, Stan Halpin, Doug
 Brewer,
  Mark Roberts
  and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen, Chris Mitchell
 and his
  wife, Tim
  Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters and his wife. Sorry
 if I left
  anyone
  out.  I think I at least met all the PDML
 members
  present.
 
  Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and I, stayed up till
 4 AM one
  morning and
  2 AM the next, talking about everything and trying
 to
  comprehend the
  meaning of life and Space-Time. I'm happy to
 report that we
  just about
  have it figured out and we'll give an update when
 we've
  completed our
  analysis and have reached a definitive conclusion.
 Bill, I
  told you we
  needed just one more bottle.
 
  I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He told me
 he
  gets better
  pictures that way.  I'd have expected footed
 long
  johns, with him
  being from Canada and that. Of course it might
 have felt
  like a
  heatwave to him down south in Chicago - or maybe
 it's
  something
  related to digital? Hard to tell what it was all
 aboot.
 
  The GPS had a hard time getting a consistent
 signal in the
  valley of
  skyscrapers they call downtown. Twice it went into
 a mode
  where it was
  recalculating every 15 seconds even when we had
 not changed
  direction.
  So sometimes it took us 20 minutes to get
 somewhere when ot
  should
  have taken just 5.
 
  Chicago was a great photo venue and I'm sure many
 photos of
  members
  and the areas we visited will start appearing.
 
  A good time was had by all.
 
  To sum it up, You were great. You were fantastic.
 You were
  great. You
  were ALL great!
 
  Tom C.
 
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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
Looks CAN be deceiving. ;D

Jack

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:03 AM
 Crap NOW I look like an idiot.
 
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Mail box. (PDML folder)
 
  J
 
  --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way
 to Chicago
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:55 AM
  Yes thanks. Did it come to yor
  mailbox or only in the archives?
 
  On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack Davis
 jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   This it, Tom C?
  
   Jack
  
   --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
   Subject: Something Funny Happened on the
 Way to
  Chicago
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08 AM
   Thought I'd give my words and
   thoughts on the exhibit and Chicago
 trip.
  
   I was actually just finishing typing this
 up last
  night
   when Bill's
   summary came through, and I sent it
 several times
  but
   nothing I
   originated last night would get to the
 list.
  
   It was wonderful to meet, in person,
 those I'd
  been
   acquainted with
   for some time on line, +12 years in some
 cases. We
  met
   Christine and
   Doug at the entrance on the sidewalk. 
 Instant
  smiles
   and hugs.
  
   Bill was Canadian.
  
   The printing job Mark did was astounding!
 My
  gallery image
   had a
   quality and feeling that did not come
 through on a
  digital
   display.
   The same can be said for the other
 images.
  Cory's was
   magical in
   print.
  
   The gallery was a work of art... far
 more
  inspiring than
   the Eggleston
   gallery at the Art Institute. :-)
 Seriously, but
  my own
   photographs
   taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at the age
 of 8 would
  have
   rivaled
   Eggleston's. No don't take that as a
 brag, I was
  a
   terrible
   photographer at 8, always wanting to see
 the film
  in the
   camera, which
   did not help matters.
  
   Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent
 job of
  organizing
   and
   implementing the event.  For those
 unable to
  attend,
   you'll be happy
   to know that we were treated and
 respected as
  photographers
   and
   artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.
  
   As in any group, some clicked and bonded
 more
  readily than
   others with
   various members, but things were so
 fast-paced
  that it was
   a matter of
   not having the time to make the rounds in
 detail.
  The
   cooperation and
   goodwill among the PDML members,
 curators, and
  vistors was
   impressive.
    It was noisy, high energy, and for
 being only
  three hours,
   pretty
   exhausting.
  
   This was an event the PDML can be
 singularly proud
  of,
   participant or not.
  
   The event and sales also benefit children
 who are
  victims
   of cancer
   and their families. So, if hesitant to
 purchase
  additional
   books, or
   possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming
 event that
  may be
   announced,
   please consider doing so to the extent
 possible,
  according
   to your
   desire and means.
  
   In particular, I got to spend a fair
 amount of
  time with
   Christine,
   Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife, Stan
 Halpin, Doug
  Brewer,
   Mark Roberts
   and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen, Chris
 Mitchell
  and his
   wife, Tim
   Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters and his
 wife. Sorry
  if I left
   anyone
   out.  I think I at least met all the
 PDML
  members
   present.
  
   Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and I, stayed
 up till
  4 AM one
   morning and
   2 AM the next, talking about everything
 and trying
  to
   comprehend the
   meaning of life and Space-Time. I'm happy
 to
  report that we
   just about
   have it figured out and we'll give an
 update when
  we've
   completed our
   analysis and have reached a definitive
 conclusion.
  Bill, I
   told you we
   needed just one more bottle.
  
   I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He
 told me
  he
   gets better
   pictures that way.  I'd have expected
 footed
  long
   johns, with him
   being from Canada and that. Of course it
 might
  have felt
   like a
   heatwave to him down south in Chicago -
 or maybe
  it's
   something
   related to digital? Hard to tell what it
 was all
  aboot.
  
   The GPS had a hard time getting a
 consistent
  signal in the
   valley of
   skyscrapers they call downtown. Twice it
 went into
  a mode
   where it was
   recalculating every 15 seconds even when
 we had
  not changed
   direction.
   So sometimes it took us 20 minutes to
 get
  somewhere when ot
   should
   have taken just 5.
  
   Chicago was a great photo venue and I'm
 sure many
  photos of
   members
   and the areas we visited will start
 appearing.
  
   A good time was 

Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
ZIINNNG!!!

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Looks CAN be deceiving. ;D

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:03 AM
 Crap NOW I look like an idiot.

 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Mail box. (PDML folder)
 
  J
 
  --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way
 to Chicago
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:55 AM
  Yes thanks. Did it come to yor
  mailbox or only in the archives?
 
  On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack Davis
 jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   This it, Tom C?
  
   Jack
  
   --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
   Subject: Something Funny Happened on the
 Way to
  Chicago
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08 AM
   Thought I'd give my words and
   thoughts on the exhibit and Chicago
 trip.
  
   I was actually just finishing typing this
 up last
  night
   when Bill's
   summary came through, and I sent it
 several times
  but
   nothing I
   originated last night would get to the
 list.
  
   It was wonderful to meet, in person,
 those I'd
  been
   acquainted with
   for some time on line, +12 years in some
 cases. We
  met
   Christine and
   Doug at the entrance on the sidewalk.
 Instant
  smiles
   and hugs.
  
   Bill was Canadian.
  
   The printing job Mark did was astounding!
 My
  gallery image
   had a
   quality and feeling that did not come
 through on a
  digital
   display.
   The same can be said for the other
 images.
  Cory's was
   magical in
   print.
  
   The gallery was a work of art... far
 more
  inspiring than
   the Eggleston
   gallery at the Art Institute. :-)
 Seriously, but
  my own
   photographs
   taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at the age
 of 8 would
  have
   rivaled
   Eggleston's. No don't take that as a
 brag, I was
  a
   terrible
   photographer at 8, always wanting to see
 the film
  in the
   camera, which
   did not help matters.
  
   Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent
 job of
  organizing
   and
   implementing the event.  For those
 unable to
  attend,
   you'll be happy
   to know that we were treated and
 respected as
  photographers
   and
   artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.
  
   As in any group, some clicked and bonded
 more
  readily than
   others with
   various members, but things were so
 fast-paced
  that it was
   a matter of
   not having the time to make the rounds in
 detail.
  The
   cooperation and
   goodwill among the PDML members,
 curators, and
  vistors was
   impressive.
    It was noisy, high energy, and for
 being only
  three hours,
   pretty
   exhausting.
  
   This was an event the PDML can be
 singularly proud
  of,
   participant or not.
  
   The event and sales also benefit children
 who are
  victims
   of cancer
   and their families. So, if hesitant to
 purchase
  additional
   books, or
   possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming
 event that
  may be
   announced,
   please consider doing so to the extent
 possible,
  according
   to your
   desire and means.
  
   In particular, I got to spend a fair
 amount of
  time with
   Christine,
   Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife, Stan
 Halpin, Doug
  Brewer,
   Mark Roberts
   and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen, Chris
 Mitchell
  and his
   wife, Tim
   Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters and his
 wife. Sorry
  if I left
   anyone
   out.  I think I at least met all the
 PDML
  members
   present.
  
   Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and I, stayed
 up till
  4 AM one
   morning and
   2 AM the next, talking about everything
 and trying
  to
   comprehend the
   meaning of life and Space-Time. I'm happy
 to
  report that we
   just about
   have it figured out and we'll give an
 update when
  we've
   completed our
   analysis and have reached a definitive
 conclusion.
  Bill, I
   told you we
   needed just one more bottle.
  
   I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He
 told me
  he
   gets better
   pictures that way.  I'd have expected
 footed
  long
   johns, with him
   being from Canada and that. Of course it
 might
  have felt
   like a
   heatwave to him down south in Chicago -
 or maybe
  it's
   something
   related to digital? Hard to tell what it
 was all
  aboot.
  
   The GPS had a hard time getting a
 consistent
  signal in the
   valley of
   skyscrapers they call downtown. Twice it
 went into
  a mode
   where it was
   recalculating every 15 seconds even when
 we had
  not changed
   direction.
   So sometimes it took us 20 minutes to
 get
  somewhere when ot
   should
   have taken just 

Re: Lightroom workflow Q

2010-05-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I have lightroom on my macbook and also on my desktop.  I usually do most of 
 my work on my desktop but occsionally, like when I'm away from home, I'll 
 upload photos to my laptop to clear my flash cards and have a look at what's 
 I've got.  It's no problem then to copy those photos over to my desktop on my 
 home network and import them into my desktop library.  I just go to the 
 folder with the photos from the appropriate dates and plant it in the correct 
 folder on the other box.  When I import them into the library, they get 
 coppied to my NAS for another safety copy.
 The hitch here is:  I'm likely to have made changes to the photo like 
 keywords, developing adjustments, or selection to a collection while I was 
 looking at them on the laptop.  Is there any way to import the photos to my 
 desktop library with the changes?
 I'd also like to mirror my collections from the laptop on the desktop.  I'll 
 be picking photos from my trip to, I duno, lets say u Chicago? that I 
 want to put up on my Smugmug page but when I get home, the only way I know of 
 to get that collection on my desktop is to make a list of file #s in the 
 collection and manually select them again.

- When I go traveling with the laptop, I create a new Lightroom
catalog on the laptop that I import work to for the duration of the
trip. The image files are stored in a directory structure identical to
what I use on my main system, eg:

~/Photo_Files//in_progress/MMDD[-tag]/filename.RAW
~/Photo_Files//in_progress/MMDD+1[-tag]/filename.RAW

etc, where tag is an optional mnemonic like NYC or Mt_Rushmore
just to help me locate things in the file system.

- The LR catalog, like all my LR catalogs, is stored in a separate
subdirectory, e.g.:

~/Photo_Files/Catalogs/YYMM-{trip_name}

where I name the trip by destination ... say 1005-NYC_family if I
were to jump to NY city this month.

- Once I return to my desk, I copy all the image file folders made on
the trip to my desktop system and the main file repository there. I
also copy the catalog folder from the trip to the desktop system into
its matching Catalogs folder.

- I then open the trip catalog on the desktop and use the
right/control click command in the Folder view to locate the root of
the file repository on the desktop. Lightroom will then know where all
the files for that catalog are.

- And finally, I open my main working catalog and Import from
Catalog the entire trip catalog.

All image files keywords, adjustments and history, virtual copies,
collections, etc., are now incorporated into the main catalog and the
working file repository on my desktop system. At this point I quit
Lightroom and run my standard backup script which updates the archive
system with all the new and revised files. After I do that, I can
delete the trip catalog and files from the laptop, as well as the trip
catalog from the desktop.

-- 
Godfrey
  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

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Re: Group Shot at Sharpenberg Gallery

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

Miserere wrote:

I sneaked out just in time it seems. Good thing too, I wouldn't want
my face out there for the whole World to see because then I'd be
recognised and wouldn't be able to do my street photography incognito.

For Doug's benefit: ;-)


  --M.


incognito is not an issue for me, but it can be a bit irritating when 
people offer to buy me a bowl of soup.


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Re: geso pdmlers in chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Christine,

I think you have given those of use who could not make it a glimpse
of what it was like.  Many thanks!

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Sunday, May 9, 2010, 11:46:07 PM, you wrote:

CA Hi Everyone:  I took shockingly few photographs, and the one's that I did
CA take are more fun than good.  My DA* 50-135 definitely has to go in for
CA service--really fought with the focus this weekend.

CA There are captions too.
CA http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html

CA Cheers, Christine 






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Re: GESO - PDML Refusés

2010-05-10 Thread DagT
And mine
http://www.thrane.name/page3/page8/files/page8-1015-full.html

DagT


Den 10. mai 2010 kl. 01.53 skrev paul stenquist:

 And mine:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9539773
 
 
 On May 9, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:
 
 At 1:07 AM +0200 5/10/10, eckinator wrote:
 2010/5/10 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:
 
 My reject:
 
 http://decluttr.com/3898189541
 
 No wonder with all that orange peel distortion, especially in the
 center of the image - looks like your lens coating may be coming loose
 Cheers
 Ecke
 
 Here's one of mine -
 
 http://earth.delith.com/bluenoseflag.html
 
 -- 
 
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 d...@eastlink.ca
 •

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Re: Group Shot at Sharpenberg Gallery

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
Can I get you a bowl of soup?

Tom

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Miserere wrote:

 I sneaked out just in time it seems. Good thing too, I wouldn't want
 my face out there for the whole World to see because then I'd be
 recognised and wouldn't be able to do my street photography incognito.

 For Doug's benefit: ;-)


  --M.

 incognito is not an issue for me, but it can be a bit irritating when people
 offer to buy me a bowl of soup.

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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
What the hell was that? You Okay??

Jack

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:16 AM
 ZIINNNG!!!
 
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Looks CAN be deceiving. ;D
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way
 to Chicago
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:03 AM
  Crap NOW I look like an idiot.
 
  On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jack Davis
 jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   Mail box. (PDML folder)
  
   J
  
   --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on
 the Way
  to Chicago
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:55 AM
   Yes thanks. Did it come to yor
   mailbox or only in the archives?
  
   On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack
 Davis
  jdavi...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
This it, Tom C?
   
Jack
   
--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
Subject: Something Funny
 Happened on the
  Way to
   Chicago
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08
 AM
Thought I'd give my words and
thoughts on the exhibit and
 Chicago
  trip.
   
I was actually just finishing
 typing this
  up last
   night
when Bill's
summary came through, and I sent
 it
  several times
   but
nothing I
originated last night would get
 to the
  list.
   
It was wonderful to meet, in
 person,
  those I'd
   been
acquainted with
for some time on line, +12 years
 in some
  cases. We
   met
Christine and
Doug at the entrance on the
 sidewalk.
  Instant
   smiles
and hugs.
   
Bill was Canadian.
   
The printing job Mark did was
 astounding!
  My
   gallery image
had a
quality and feeling that did not
 come
  through on a
   digital
display.
The same can be said for the
 other
  images.
   Cory's was
magical in
print.
   
The gallery was a work of art...
 far
  more
   inspiring than
the Eggleston
gallery at the Art Institute.
 :-)
  Seriously, but
   my own
photographs
taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at
 the age
  of 8 would
   have
rivaled
Eggleston's. No don't take that
 as a
  brag, I was
   a
terrible
photographer at 8, always
 wanting to see
  the film
   in the
camera, which
did not help matters.
   
Christine and Sue Barton did an
 excellent
  job of
   organizing
and
implementing the event.  For
 those
  unable to
   attend,
you'll be happy
to know that we were treated
 and
  respected as
   photographers
and
artists, not as a bunch of
 wannabes.
   
As in any group, some clicked
 and bonded
  more
   readily than
others with
various members, but things were
 so
  fast-paced
   that it was
a matter of
not having the time to make the
 rounds in
  detail.
   The
cooperation and
goodwill among the PDML
 members,
  curators, and
   vistors was
impressive.
 It was noisy, high energy, and
 for
  being only
   three hours,
pretty
exhausting.
   
This was an event the PDML can
 be
  singularly proud
   of,
participant or not.
   
The event and sales also benefit
 children
  who are
   victims
of cancer
and their families. So, if
 hesitant to
  purchase
   additional
books, or
possibly sponsor riders in an
 upcoming
  event that
   may be
announced,
please consider doing so to the
 extent
  possible,
   according
to your
desire and means.
   
In particular, I got to spend a
 fair
  amount of
   time with
Christine,
Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife,
 Stan
  Halpin, Doug
   Brewer,
Mark Roberts
and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen,
 Chris
  Mitchell
   and his
wife, Tim
Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters
 and his
  wife. Sorry
   if I left
anyone
out.  I think I at least met
 all the
  PDML
   members
present.
   
Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and
 I, stayed
  up till
   4 AM one
morning and
2 AM the next, talking about
 everything
  and trying
   to
comprehend the
meaning of life and Space-Time.
 I'm happy
  to
   report that we
just about
have it figured out and we'll
 give an
  update when
   we've
completed our
analysis and have reached a
 definitive
  conclusion.
   Bill, I
told you we
needed just one more bottle.
   
I never knew Bill slept in the
 RAW.  He
  told me
   he
gets better
pictures that way.  I'd have
 expected
  footed
   long
johns, with him

Re: PESO: Finch Pair II

2010-05-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
I commend you for making a 'Feeder' shot not look like a 'Feeder'
shot.  Comes across quite natural - especially to those of us who
really have no clue what 'natural' really is.  Mostly not seeing
man-made stuff in the frame.  I bet you could sit there and shoot all
day - I like this except for the tail feathers in the way.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:07:37 AM, you wrote:

JD Pumped the yellow somewhat.

JD Jack

JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500


JD   




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Re: GESO - PDML Refusés

2010-05-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
And mine...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/3988272068/sizes/l

2010/5/10 DagT li...@thrane.name:
 And mine
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page8/files/page8-1015-full.html

 DagT


 Den 10. mai 2010 kl. 01.53 skrev paul stenquist:

 And mine:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9539773


 On May 9, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

 At 1:07 AM +0200 5/10/10, eckinator wrote:
 2010/5/10 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:

 My reject:

 http://decluttr.com/3898189541

 No wonder with all that orange peel distortion, especially in the
 center of the image - looks like your lens coating may be coming loose
 Cheers
 Ecke

 Here's one of mine -

 http://earth.delith.com/bluenoseflag.html

 --

 Steve Sharpe
 d...@eastlink.ca
 •

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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
Just saying you zinged me...

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 What the hell was that? You Okay??

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:16 AM
 ZIINNNG!!!

 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Looks CAN be deceiving. ;D
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way
 to Chicago
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:03 AM
  Crap NOW I look like an idiot.
 
  On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jack Davis
 jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   Mail box. (PDML folder)
  
   J
  
   --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: Something Funny Happened on
 the Way
  to Chicago
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:55 AM
   Yes thanks. Did it come to yor
   mailbox or only in the archives?
  
   On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jack
 Davis
  jdavi...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
This it, Tom C?
   
Jack
   
--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
Subject: Something Funny
 Happened on the
  Way to
   Chicago
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08
 AM
Thought I'd give my words and
thoughts on the exhibit and
 Chicago
  trip.
   
I was actually just finishing
 typing this
  up last
   night
when Bill's
summary came through, and I sent
 it
  several times
   but
nothing I
originated last night would get
 to the
  list.
   
It was wonderful to meet, in
 person,
  those I'd
   been
acquainted with
for some time on line, +12 years
 in some
  cases. We
   met
Christine and
Doug at the entrance on the
 sidewalk.
  Instant
   smiles
and hugs.
   
Bill was Canadian.
   
The printing job Mark did was
 astounding!
  My
   gallery image
had a
quality and feeling that did not
 come
  through on a
   digital
display.
The same can be said for the
 other
  images.
   Cory's was
magical in
print.
   
The gallery was a work of art...
 far
  more
   inspiring than
the Eggleston
gallery at the Art Institute.
 :-)
  Seriously, but
   my own
photographs
taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at
 the age
  of 8 would
   have
rivaled
Eggleston's. No don't take that
 as a
  brag, I was
   a
terrible
photographer at 8, always
 wanting to see
  the film
   in the
camera, which
did not help matters.
   
Christine and Sue Barton did an
 excellent
  job of
   organizing
and
implementing the event.  For
 those
  unable to
   attend,
you'll be happy
to know that we were treated
 and
  respected as
   photographers
and
artists, not as a bunch of
 wannabes.
   
As in any group, some clicked
 and bonded
  more
   readily than
others with
various members, but things were
 so
  fast-paced
   that it was
a matter of
not having the time to make the
 rounds in
  detail.
   The
cooperation and
goodwill among the PDML
 members,
  curators, and
   vistors was
impressive.
 It was noisy, high energy, and
 for
  being only
   three hours,
pretty
exhausting.
   
This was an event the PDML can
 be
  singularly proud
   of,
participant or not.
   
The event and sales also benefit
 children
  who are
   victims
of cancer
and their families. So, if
 hesitant to
  purchase
   additional
books, or
possibly sponsor riders in an
 upcoming
  event that
   may be
announced,
please consider doing so to the
 extent
  possible,
   according
to your
desire and means.
   
In particular, I got to spend a
 fair
  amount of
   time with
Christine,
Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife,
 Stan
  Halpin, Doug
   Brewer,
Mark Roberts
and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen,
 Chris
  Mitchell
   and his
wife, Tim
Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters
 and his
  wife. Sorry
   if I left
anyone
out.  I think I at least met
 all the
  PDML
   members
present.
   
Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and
 I, stayed
  up till
   4 AM one
morning and
2 AM the next, talking about
 everything
  and trying
   to
comprehend the
meaning of life and Space-Time.
 I'm happy
  to
   report that we
just about
have it figured out and we'll
 give an
  update when
   we've
completed our
analysis and have reached a
 definitive
  conclusion.
   Bill, I
told you we
needed just one more bottle.
   
I never knew Bill slept in the
 RAW.  He
  told me
   

Re: PESO: Finch Pair II

2010-05-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Christian Skofteland
pterali...@aim.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:07:37AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
 Pumped the yellow somewhat.

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500


 Yes, but the female's olvive coloring has now gone orange...  :-) The male is
 just not in full breeding color yet so he is just a little drab that's all.  
 No
 need to try to make color where it doesn't exist naturally. :-)

I agree with Christian that the original was much more representative
of how the birds look.  Either way, it's an excellent composition and
well-timed.

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Re: PESO: Finch Pair II

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks much, Bruce! Yeah, the tail feather thing bothered me a bit, but not 
enough to get me back out on the chaise for more tries.
I shot a string of them, but this was the only one in which the female didn't 
have her head turned away. Temperamental..I guess. ;)

Jack

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Pair II
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:39 AM
 I commend you for making a 'Feeder'
 shot not look like a 'Feeder'
 shot.  Comes across quite natural - especially to
 those of us who
 really have no clue what 'natural' really is.  Mostly
 not seeing
 man-made stuff in the frame.  I bet you could sit
 there and shoot all
 day - I like this except for the tail feathers in the way.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:07:37 AM, you wrote:
 
 JD Pumped the yellow somewhat.
 
 JD Jack
 
 JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500
 
 
 JD       
 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: Finch Pair II

2010-05-10 Thread Jack Davis
I actually agree, Matthew! I bumped the color in this one for the Kennyboy fans.

Jack

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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:47 AM
 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM,
 Christian Skofteland
 pterali...@aim.com
 wrote:
  On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:07:37AM -0700, Jack Davis
 wrote:
  Pumped the yellow somewhat.
 
  Jack
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500
 
 
  Yes, but the female's olvive coloring has now gone
 orange...  :-) The male is
  just not in full breeding color yet so he is just a
 little drab that's all.  No
  need to try to make color where it doesn't exist
 naturally. :-)
 
 I agree with Christian that the original was much more
 representative
 of how the birds look.  Either way, it's an excellent
 composition and
 well-timed.
 
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Re: For your great panoramas - gigapan

2010-05-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: Rob Studdert

On 10/05/2010, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 So what can it do that I can't do with an *ist-D and a properly leveled
 tripod?


Let you push a button and relax whilst it does the hard yards.


Yeah, but one of them was 900 Euros and the other was 9,000 Euros.

Cost:Benefit ratio just doesn't work for me.

You can buy a LOT of lenses for 9,000 Euros ... and still have money 
left over to travel someplace interesting to use them.



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RE: GESO: Critter

2010-05-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

Bob W wrote:

  So you spend your weekend playing opossum?
 
  It was good to let it go.  They are fairly harmless.  They 
 do make a 

  nice stew, however, . . .
 
  
  How do they hold the stewpot with such little paws?
 
 With tiny little oven-mitts. How else?


Of course - how stupid of me!


They do have opposable thumbs on their hind feet.

Didn't find out about that until after I turned him over to animal 
control to release, or I'd have tried to take photos of them.


I could have just let him go in the back yard, I guess, but the 
neighborhood cats might get him.


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Re: PESO- Gold

2010-05-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jeffery Smith

I feel like you are Dilbert and I am the pointy haired boss. Shall I
play along? We need to get one of those new tele to wide angle
lenses.


My manager when I was at HAL ...

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

Tom C wrote:

I totally missed Hopper's Nighthawks.  That's been a favorite image
of mine since elementary school.  I'd have loved to have seen it.  I
always imagine myself in the diner drinking a cup of coffee out of a
heavy ceramic mug with a thick rounded lip.

Tom C.


I actually have a small print of it around here somewhere, from when my 
wife went to AIC years ago, but seeing the real thing was way better.


Dropped in to see a couple of Pollocks as well, for Cotty.

All in all, I really enjoyed the museum, and not just from a 
photographic standpoint. I could have stayed there for a couple more 
days, soaking it in.


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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
You did pretty well only getting five (well, six) responses to your
please ignore this post post.

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  Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 I tried to.

 I tried to, too.

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oops.  Six.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 You did pretty well only getting five (well, six) responses to your
 please ignore this post post.

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  Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 I tried to.

 I tried to, too.

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Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair

2010-05-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tom C

I totally missed Hopper's Nighthawks.  That's been a favorite image
of mine since elementary school.  I'd have loved to have seen it.  I
always imagine myself in the diner drinking a cup of coffee out of a
heavy ceramic mug with a thick rounded lip.


Good to see the original without the dead celebrities.

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
I had inverse expectations. Or maybe I'm easily ignored... I spent 30
minutes writing my remarks about the Chicago trip and nobody gives a
rat's ass. :-)

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oops.  Six.

 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 You did pretty well only getting five (well, six) responses to your
 please ignore this post post.

 On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:19 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com 
 wrote:

  Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 I tried to.

 I tried to, too.

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Doug Brewer

Tom C wrote:

I had inverse expectations. Or maybe I'm easily ignored... I spent 30
minutes writing my remarks about the Chicago trip and nobody gives a
rat's ass. :-)


I was waiting for the other six versions before deciding on a response.

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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Funny how this list functions, isn't it... :)

Now I need to comment on your remarks.

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Monday, May 10, 2010, 10:45:41 AM, you wrote:

TC I had inverse expectations. Or maybe I'm easily ignored... I spent 30
TC minutes writing my remarks about the Chicago trip and nobody gives a
TC rat's ass. :-)

TC On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Oops.  Six.

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 You did pretty well only getting five (well, six) responses to your
 please ignore this post post.

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 wrote:

  Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 I tried to.

 I tried to, too.

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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Wonderful synopsis of your experience.  I, for one, am glad you took
the time to write it down - helps me to experience it a bit
vicariously.

And when you finish the meaning of life - package it up and sell it
up with a fast motor drive and sell it!

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Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:08:10 AM, you wrote:

TC Thought I'd give my words and thoughts on the exhibit and Chicago trip.

TC I was actually just finishing typing this up last night when Bill's
TC summary came through, and I sent it several times but nothing I
TC originated last night would get to the list.

TC It was wonderful to meet, in person, those I'd been acquainted with
TC for some time on line, +12 years in some cases. We met Christine and
TC Doug at the entrance on the sidewalk.  Instant smiles and hugs.

TC Bill was Canadian.

TC The printing job Mark did was astounding! My gallery image had a
TC quality and feeling that did not come through on a digital display.
TC The same can be said for the other images.  Cory's was magical in
TC print.

TC The gallery was a work of art... far more inspiring than the Eggleston
TC gallery at the Art Institute. :-) Seriously, but my own photographs
TC taken with a Brownie Hawkeye at the age of 8 would have rivaled
TC Eggleston's. No don't take that as a brag, I was a terrible
TC photographer at 8, always wanting to see the film in the camera, which
TC did not help matters.

TC Christine and Sue Barton did an excellent job of organizing and
TC implementing the event.  For those unable to attend, you'll be happy
TC to know that we were treated and respected as photographers and
TC artists, not as a bunch of wannabes.

TC As in any group, some clicked and bonded more readily than others with
TC various members, but things were so fast-paced that it was a matter of
TC not having the time to make the rounds in detail. The cooperation and
TC goodwill among the PDML members, curators, and vistors was impressive.
TC  It was noisy, high energy, and for being only three hours, pretty
TC exhausting.

TC This was an event the PDML can be singularly proud of, participant or not.

TC The event and sales also benefit children who are victims of cancer
TC and their families. So, if hesitant to purchase additional books, or
TC possibly sponsor riders in an upcoming event that may be announced,
TC please consider doing so to the extent possible, according to your
TC desire and means.

TC In particular, I got to spend a fair amount of time with Christine,
TC Ann, Bob Sullivan and his wife, Stan Halpin, Doug Brewer, Mark Roberts
TC and his wife, Boris, Lary Colen, Chris Mitchell and his wife, Tim
TC Bray, Jay Taylor, Cory Waters and his wife. Sorry if I left anyone
TC out.  I think I at least met all the PDML members present.

TC Bill Robb (who is Canadian) and I, stayed up till 4 AM one morning and
TC 2 AM the next, talking about everything and trying to comprehend the
TC meaning of life and Space-Time. I'm happy to report that we just about
TC have it figured out and we'll give an update when we've completed our
TC analysis and have reached a definitive conclusion. Bill, I told you we
TC needed just one more bottle.

TC I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He told me he gets better
TC pictures that way.  I'd have expected footed long johns, with him
TC being from Canada and that. Of course it might have felt like a
TC heatwave to him down south in Chicago - or maybe it's something
TC related to digital? Hard to tell what it was all aboot.

TC The GPS had a hard time getting a consistent signal in the valley of
TC skyscrapers they call downtown. Twice it went into a mode where it was
TC recalculating every 15 seconds even when we had not changed direction.
TC So sometimes it took us 20 minutes to get somewhere when ot should
TC have taken just 5.

TC Chicago was a great photo venue and I'm sure many photos of members
TC and the areas we visited will start appearing.

TC A good time was had by all.

TC To sum it up, You were great. You were fantastic. You were great. You
TC were ALL great!

TC Tom C.




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Re: Please Ignore this Pedantic Test

2010-05-10 Thread Tom C
You're a mean man Doug. :-)

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 Tom C wrote:

 I had inverse expectations. Or maybe I'm easily ignored... I spent 30
 minutes writing my remarks about the Chicago trip and nobody gives a
 rat's ass. :-)

 I was waiting for the other six versions before deciding on a response.

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Re: Brought to you by Tom C

2010-05-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Bill, glad you could go.  Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
It helps to give a glimpse of the event!

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Sunday, May 9, 2010, 7:16:49 PM, you wrote:

WR Ignore the last one. Friggin Microsoft.


WR Well, that was fun.
WR Even the plane rides were bearable.
WR Thanks to the generosity of Tom, I was given the very pleasurable
WR opportunity to visit Chicago this past weekend.
WR It happened that this weekend also coincided with the Chicago Celtic
WR Festival, so there was entertainment.
WR But especially, there was the gallery opening for the PDML Show.

WR So, I got to Chicago latish Thursday evening.
WR The escape from Canada flight was on was on a scale model of a very small
WR cattle car that had jet powered wings.
WR And, the buggers busted me for having too much toothpaste.
WR But, I had no seatmate, so it was all good.
WR The flight to Chicago was on a somewhat larger version of the same thing,
WR but my seatmate was a relatively small woman who was quite decorative and
WR friendly, and I had bought some 10 cent per ml Crest, so that was fine as
WR well.
WR When I debarked, Tom phoned and told me he was right outside.
WR The seatmate led me through the terminal and off she went, and a few moments
WR later I was in the passenger seat of Tom's Renta-A-Toyota.
WR After checking out our room on the 27th floor of the downtown Sheraton Posh
WR Hotel, we found a little bar and had a nice meal and drinks.
WR I believe we closed the place.
WR And then sat up until 4:00 catching up on stuff.
WR The very next morning after too few hours sleep, we went for a walk.
WR We found a very busy but efficient breakfast place called the West Egg Cafe
WR where we had a very nice breakfast.
WR And Tom, I think you have to admit it was the best breakfast we had, no
WR matter what you thought at the time.
WR And we found a very big lake.
WR And we found Navy Pier.
WR We found all sorts of cool stuff, and then we found Harry Carey's, and we
WR stopped for lunch.
WR I think we both had the Blackened Tenderloin.
WR It was quite wonderful, and washed down nicely with a nice ale.
WR And we walked some more, and then went back to the hotel.
WR It was a good day, and I would have been quite satisfied to call it a
WR success on many levels, but there was still more to come.
WR For this was the night of the PDML Show opening.
WR And off we went.
WR Finding a liquor vendor along the way was a good thing to do, so we laid in
WR a supply of whiskey and wine for laters, and to the gallery we went.
WR It was quite fun. I met a whole bunch of PDML members who also came to the
WR show, and I also got to meet Sue, the curator of the gallery.
WR  The show is well worth seeing. I had seen all of the pictures on the web,
WR but nothing prepared me for the splendour that was hung on the walls of the
WR Scharpenberg Gallery.
WR We are an incredibly talented bunch of photographers, and I am proud to be a
WR member of this community.
WR Talking about talented photographers, I coudn't believe that Ted actually
WR talked to me.
WR I may not have given him any choice though.
WR But he still talked to me.
WR Actually, everyone was quite gracious.
WR Especially Tom.
WR After the show, Tom, Ann, Jay and myself went to a little Pizzeria that
WR served what I believe was a Chicago Style Deep Dish Pizza.
WR After that, a bottle of wine and a few hours of sleep, and we found 
WR ourselves in the Sheraton's food for exorbitant profit centre, and then off
WR to the Chicago Art Institute and the William Eggleston Exhibit.
WR Gonzo Photography.
WR I suspect that he and Hunter Thompson smoked a few together.
WR And then some silly tourist photography, back to the gallery for a dose of
WR Matisse, and supper with the whole gang at a place that Tom's Voodoo Device
WR said was permanently closed.
WR After we were done with it.
WR But seriously, more good food, and I got to see Jostein's book from his trip
WR to Penguinland.
WR More seriously good photography there, and then we were off to the park,
WR where loud music was calling.
WR Apparently, we are too fucking old, because it chased us away.
WR But I digress.
WR Refreshing beverages were in order, but after making the mistake of trying
WR to park closer to the bar, and having an epic fail with a parkade, Tom
WR chickened out so we went back to the hotel.
WR Where we had a small but adequate stock of refreshing beverage.
WR And then, far too soon, this morning and off to the airport.

WR It was truly a pleasure to meet in person, more members of this community.
WR Meeting Boris and Jostein was what I'll remember the most, simply because of
WR the effort that they made to be there.
WR Seeing Ann again was truly a pleasure.
WR Cory, did you really say you couldn't believe you were shaking my hand?
WR By my count, 18 of the 44 artists who have pictures in this show were in
WR attendance, and whether I was meeting you for the first time or 
WR reacquainting myself with you, it was 

RE: Lightroom workflow Q

2010-05-10 Thread John Sessoms

From: Cory Waters

I have lightroom on my macbook and also on my desktop.? I usually do
most of my work on my desktop but occsionally, like when I'm away
from home, I'll upload photos to my laptop to clear my flash cards
and have a look at what's I've got.? It's no problem then to copy
those photos over to my desktop on my home network and import them
into my desktop library.? I just go to the folder with the photos
from the appropriate dates and plant it in the correct folder on the
other box.? When I import them into the library, they get coppied to
my NAS for another safety copy.? The hitch here is:??I'm likely to
have made?changes to the photo like keywords, developing adjustments,
or selection to a collection while I was looking at them on the
laptop.??Is there any way to?import the photos to my desktop library
with the changes?? I'd also like to?mirror my collections from the
laptop on the desktop.? I'll be picking photos from my trip to,?I
duno, lets say u Chicago? that I want to put up on my Smugmug
page but when I get home,?the only way I know of to get?that
collection on my desktop is?to make a list of file #s?in the
collection and manually select them again.

I'm not sure if I've been clear here so?poke me if you don't
understand what I'm after.? I'll try again. Thanks, CW


It's a little easier to read ( thus understand) if you put in paragraph 
breaks ... but, IF I understand what you want ...


I Googled synchronize collections from two copies of Lightroom and 
this is what I turned up:


http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/04/05/Lightroom-sync-with-rsync

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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

2010-05-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/5/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Crap NOW I look like an idiot.

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Re: PESO: The Railroad Dining Car Diner

2010-05-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks.

The pole is for the HUGE diner sign, visible from the interstate.  I
tried to position it so that it would have minimal impact, but I
wasn't strong enough to uproot it.

Dan

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I really  like the interior shot.  Pity about the pole in the exterior one.

 Rick

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