RE: What was your first camera?
John Coyle ... and the second was a Pentax SV. Beautiful camera, stolen in 1975 I didn't have the balls to steal mine. I had to save up for it: a little Agfa of some sort, bought when I was 13 or 14. and replaced a few years ago with a second-hand but much-loved and well-maintained one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Chilly Chess
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer On a cool November afternoon in Paris: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11943452size=lg very good - it's the guy eyeballing them that makes it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
On 13 April 2011 09:55, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: My first photo edit program was Corel draw 5 i think it was. Just after my purchase of a Kodak DC25. DeluxePaint on the Amiga around '85 followed by DeluxPaint II on PC, first personal scans from the original Polaroid SprintScan around '92 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:55 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Just a follow up to Bills, what was your first camera. My first photo edit program was Corel draw 5 i think it was. Just after my purchase of a Kodak DC25. Dave Ulead Image Pals - redefines the term 'basic' but it came bundled with a hand scanner I used for a while. I still use the 'Enhancer' module occasionally for some quick and dirty graphics (not image) editing. Surprisingly it still works on Win 7. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: E-book - The Power of Black White in Lightroom
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:48 -0400, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: http://www.pixelatedimage.com/blog/2011/04/bw-masterclas/ I'm in. They must be doing pretty well, or expect to. My invoice number appears to be about a 200-bit number. (If every atom in the sun buys 1,000 eBooks, they still won't run out of invoice numbers.) I think 'Craft and Vision' is doing quite well but the invoicing may be a tad optimistic The idea is the work of David duChemin who runs the Pixellated Image blog - one of the better photographic blogs IMHO. He's produced about 20 ebooks over the past few years, some by himself and some by others. All cost 5 bucks. I've bought a few and I can't really say I've wasted my money. They're all very well done. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PBS Television show The President's Photographer
On 13/4/11, Thomas Bohn, discombobulated, unleashed: You can watch the program online, too. Even outside the US: http://video.pbs.org/video/1672209202/ thanks for posting. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
On 11-04-12 10:58 PM, Jim King wrote: This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... Regards, Jim Whoa! That article amply demonstrates why paragraphs are a Good Idea. I'd like to read it, but I'm put off by that swollen river of run-on text. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D: flash and manual focus lenses
Adam, I think the F lenses do as well. I remember using my SFX with the SMC-F 70-120 and the camera changed its settings (I think it was a program bias of some sort) when zooming the lens. So distance was definitely reported, so was focal length. According to KMP: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/summary/index.html 2011/4/13 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/12/2011 13:49, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hi Jostein, P-TTL works with my K-5 when using the manual focus A400/5.6. The same was true with my K10, K20, and K-7. However, P-TTL doesn't work with my K lenses. I think autoexposure is the key here. Paul Paul, can it be that with A-lenses P-TTL works in reduced functionality mode? I am asking because it is my understanding that P-TTL uses distance to object (reported by AF lenses) for its processing. Boris P-TTL uses preflash with A and later lenses for TTL calculations. It can use distance reporting on FA and later lenses to improve the calculation for direct flash (not bounce) but that ability is not required and is in fact not supported by all AF lenses, only FA and later. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
Phil Northeast wrote: Kodak Instamatic Phil Brownie. Second one was a Retina I. :-) keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun
Very nice Jack. Spring is in the air: bring on the flower pics! -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Forgive the creative spelling.(?) Comments? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587 K-5, DA 16~45@20mm, 1/1600, ISO 800, laying on the ground in a neighborhood park. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Chilly Chess
That's exactly what I was thinking. -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer On a cool November afternoon in Paris: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11943452size=lg very good - it's the guy eyeballing them that makes it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
My first was a Argus 126 plastic wonder: http://junkstorecameras.com/jscimages/Argus126.jpg My first 'real' camera was a Pentax ME Super, which I still have and will never let go. -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote: In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun
Well done. A nice perspective, and I like the compositional result of including that second bud. Paul On Apr 13, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Chris Sheppard wrote: Very nice Jack. Spring is in the air: bring on the flower pics! -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Forgive the creative spelling.(?) Comments? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587 K-5, DA 16~45@20mm, 1/1600, ISO 800, laying on the ground in a neighborhood park. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Someone needs to introduce that guy to the concept of the paragraph. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
This stupid thread might cost me money. I got curious, looked for pictures of the Duaflex on the web, and found then on eBay for $22. http://tinyurl.com/3kww67e It could sit proudly on my shelf. ;-) On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Chris Sheppard chris.sheppard...@gmail.com wrote: My first was a Argus 126 plastic wonder: http://junkstorecameras.com/jscimages/Argus126.jpg My first 'real' camera was a Pentax ME Super, which I still have and will never let go. -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote: In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red Sunset
Really well composed, Dan! You caught the sun at just the right moment. I like it as is, but I'd give the sailboat the slightest touch of Dodge tool and, at least, consider removing the bit of rocks peeking out of the lower right corner. Jack --- On Tue, 4/12/11, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Red Sunset To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 9:17 PM http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=79 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are welcome and encouraged. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where's Bruce Dayton
On 4/11/2011 22:41, Rick Womer wrote: He's alive, well, preoccupied with earning a living, and enjoying his new K5. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW Thanks, Rick! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun
Thanks, Chris! After a record setting wet winter and spring, we're seeing a desperate and photo challenging growth race between the wildflowers and weeds. Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Chris Sheppard chris.sheppard...@gmail.com wrote: From: Chris Sheppard chris.sheppard...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 3:54 AM Very nice Jack. Spring is in the air: bring on the flower pics! -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Forgive the creative spelling.(?) Comments? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587 K-5, DA 16~45@20mm, 1/1600, ISO 800, laying on the ground in a neighborhood park. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun
Thanks, Paul. I shot something like 45 images in the small Poppy patch and cropped this out of 'prox the left third of a frame. It, also, took quite a bit of clone tool cleanup. Could have used a vertical viewfinder attachment. Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:20 AM Well done. A nice perspective, and I like the compositional result of including that second bud. Paul On Apr 13, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Chris Sheppard wrote: Very nice Jack. Spring is in the air: bring on the flower pics! -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Forgive the creative spelling.(?) Comments? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587 K-5, DA 16~45@20mm, 1/1600, ISO 800, laying on the ground in a neighborhood park. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Chilly Chess
On 4/13/2011 10:04, Bob W wrote: very good - it's the guy eyeballing them that makes it. B I second what Bob said. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
My first image editing software was Adobe Photoshop v4. Jostein 2011/4/13 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Just a follow up to Bills, what was your first camera. My first photo edit program was Corel draw 5 i think it was. Just after my purchase of a Kodak DC25. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Black Cat on Frozen Lake
On 3/17/2011 09:19, Bulent Celasun wrote: From a recent trip to easternmost Turkey. http://500px.com/photo/437321 Bulent - http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun Let me join the chorus of praises of this most successful shot, even though I am coming late here... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Skyline
On 3/16/2011 21:59, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/03/skyline.html http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/skyline-colour-version.html I think I prefer BW, because Parkdale is kind of a monochrome place to me. OTOH, some of you may enjoy the colours of the sign. Color for me, Frank. Among other things it also helps to get a glimpse on the weather which, as I understand, was rather chilly on that day. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: In 1966, I purchased a brand new Pentax Spotmatic, and my fate was sealed. A year later I bought a black Spotty, a couple more M-42 lenses. Had not realized that it was a mental ailment yet. And here I am. Black Spotmatic with it's ƒ1.4 50mm in the drawer next to my desk. Along with the three LXen. Joseph, It's not an ailment, it's just a little peculiarity. We all have it. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...
Ken: VERY nice gallery! How did you get the black backgrounds on some of the photos, like the one of the leaves, and along the ridge line??? I love it. ...and yes, ancient Chinese secret is a valid answer g... Mitch On 1:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mitch Conant mit...@mme-ia.net Subject: Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming... Ann: I used to go to Vegas for a yearly networking (computer) trade show. The last 3 years that I went, I went on the Friday before the show. Arrived and went to Utah for the weekend. I stumbled on Zion the first year (without my cameras) but turned those weekends into photo excursions for the last 2. Hence, I haven't been to everything I want to see (Canyonlands and Arches). What's Capitol Reef all about? As I recall, it didn't capture my imagination when I heard about it all those years ago ... Well for one it doesn't have Kadak tripod hole locations the crowds that go with it, so you can pretty much have the place to yourself - I've been there 3 times, mainly in early spring and have never been bothered by crowds - heck there were days in the park I never saw another person. Mitch On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I have a slew of 'em myself... We might have passed each other on a trail here and there :-) You didn't meniotn Canyonlands or Arches -- was that just for the sake of brevity? ann Mitchell Conant wrote: Ann: Thanks for the input. I had SAMs Club convert a couple hundred slides that I shot in the early 90's; with my ME MX. This was one of them. I'm planning to post these as GESO(s). I have photos from Zion, Bryce, Cedar Breaks, Kodachrome Basin and Rocky Mountain N.P. You are right ... southern Utah is one of my FAVORITE places! Mitch On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I particularly like the Zion shot... wonderful BW conversion... and - well hell, it's one of my favorite places. The other two are certainly well done, but don't say much to me... too much just like an exercise in technique. ann Mitchell Conant wrote: Tried sending this last night but it never was posted to the list. Let's try it again... After a long, cold winter of working on my photo album webpage and associated management utilities; I have a bunch of stuff from 2010 and 2011 to post. In the near future I hope to post a couple of GESOs and more PESOs. For now, here are 3 PESOs that didn't fit into any galleries, I guess they are just photos in my photo shoebox... http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068 http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068 As usual (it goes without saying) feedback and comments would be appreciated. Mitch -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
To be fair, his arguments are not without merit. I'm always suspicious, however, when anyone quotes Pirsig. Ultimately, Pirsig's view of quality is an I know it when I see it argument. It's not wrong, just difficult to apply and even harder to adjudicate when there is a difference of opinion. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:06 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same thought. Composition grade would drop. Ironic given the topic. On Apr 13, 2011 7:46am, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Someone needs to introduce that guy to the concept of the paragraph. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Someone needs to introduce that guy to the concept of the paragraph. I'll do that Dave -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Chilly Chess
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Chris Sheppard chris.sheppard...@gmail.com wrote: That's exactly what I was thinking. I second what Chris said. Dave -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer On a cool November afternoon in Paris: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11943452size=lg very good - it's the guy eyeballing them that makes it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red Sunset
Well done. Dave On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=79 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are welcome and encouraged. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Dave. You may know this already, but you can make the links active. All you have to do is to click the link icon in the blogpost editor and paste in the link there. -- MaritimTim No i did not, thanks. Dave http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2011/4/12 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: I put something on my blog.: http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ and on my facebook page Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
Voigtlander Bessamatic with a 50mm lens. SLR with leaf shutter. Learned a lot in a hurry. I was 15. Back to Lurking. G. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
Now THAT was funny, Bob. I think I like how your brain works. : ) On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: John Coyle ... and the second was a Pentax SV. Beautiful camera, stolen in 1975 I didn't have the balls to steal mine. I had to save up for it: a little Agfa of some sort, bought when I was 13 or 14. and replaced a few years ago with a second-hand but much-loved and well-maintained one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
When I was growing up, my dad was (and remains) an enthusiastic amateur photographer. He shot Canon FD equipment; a TLb and AE-1. He also shot weddings for a little while with a Hasselblad, but I never touched that. I took pictures with the AE-1 now and then, like when we were on vacation and he wanted a shot of himself with Mom. Mostly, though, I had a succession of random cheap 35mm fixed-focus cameras through my youth and childhood. When I started grad school in 1998, I told my dad I was interested in buying a SLR, and he gave me his TLb, with a few prime lenses. He kept the AE-1 and his Vivitar Series 1 28-90 and 70-210 zooms. My favorite lens that I got was the Vivitar Series 1 135mm f/2.3, which had a nice close focus and beautiful bokeh. A very nice flower and portrait lens. (The TLb is roughly a K1000-equivalent, with metered manual exposure.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
While it is true that the sensor may have a limited lifespan, how long does he really expect to be using his camera? You have to move on at some point. It's nostalgia speaking here. It's hip to say that you shoot film, and that you shot film before it was cool. Guess what, the rest of the world has moved on. If he wants to shoot film, he can do that. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
On Apr 13, 2011, at 6:18, Chris Sheppard wrote: My first was a Argus 126 plastic wonder: http://junkstorecameras.com/jscimages/Argus126.jpg My first 'real' camera was a Pentax ME Super, which I still have and will never let go. LOVE the ME Super. Even though I don't shoot with it anymore, I'll just keep it in the bag in the closet... no sense in getting rid of it. Every once in a while I'll do something silly like put the 16-50 on there and look through the HUGE viewfinder. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
I don't quite remember how old I was (most likely between 10 and 12), when I was given a Smena-7. It looked like this guy's: http://www.nightphoto.com/smena7.html I was happy to use my older brother's Fed-2: http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/FED_2 on a few occasions (like my brother's wedding). My second camera was an SLR, Kiev-19, (with Nikon mount): http://www.ussrphoto.com/wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=79ParentID=1ContentID=278 which I purchased when I was a college student in Moscow in ~1989 or 1990. For that camera my brother and I (we both bought that camera then) had to wake up at or before 5pm, and to take the first subway train, to be at the store before its opening. That was the day when the store was expecting the delivery of these cameras (limited quantities). We managed to buy decent ones (the QC was not good, so the variation in quality was huge). I've been using Kiev-19 until I got my Pentax ZX-5n in 1997. Igor On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Bill Owens wrote: In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
Jim King wrote on Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:58:35 -0700 This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... Lots of comments in the Leica Users Forum about Puts' post: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/176273-new-blog-entry-erwin-puts.html Many of them have the same criticism of his writing/composing style as the posts here. I hope that his thoughts will not get lost in the criticism of his style; his arguments for the old ways are worth considering, and some of his criticism of our digital era are on target IMO. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
I appreciate that the old film cameras had a longer lifespan than the digital ones. The problem is that for many of us color was a thing left to the labs, whereas BW was a medium were we could do some PP. Now color is there as well. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: Jim King wrote on Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:58:35 -0700 This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... Lots of comments in the Leica Users Forum about Puts' post: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/176273-new-blog-entry-erwin-puts.html Many of them have the same criticism of his writing/composing style as the posts here. I hope that his thoughts will not get lost in the criticism of his style; his arguments for the old ways are worth considering, and some of his criticism of our digital era are on target IMO. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
I'm not a professional, and really not even a craftsman, but I recognize a superiority complex when I see one.Defense of the old ways in the name of professionalism is a fine way of looking down one's nose at all who differ from one's own way of doing things. Dan On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: Jim King wrote on Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:58:35 -0700 This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... Lots of comments in the Leica Users Forum about Puts' post: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/176273-new-blog-entry-erwin-puts.html Many of them have the same criticism of his writing/composing style as the posts here. I hope that his thoughts will not get lost in the criticism of his style; his arguments for the old ways are worth considering, and some of his criticism of our digital era are on target IMO. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red Sunset
Thanks for your comments and suggestions, Jack. Dan On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Really well composed, Dan! You caught the sun at just the right moment. I like it as is, but I'd give the sailboat the slightest touch of Dodge tool and, at least, consider removing the bit of rocks peeking out of the lower right corner. Jack --- On Tue, 4/12/11, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Red Sunset To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 9:17 PM http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=79 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are welcome and encouraged. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Some thoughts on my first PDML annual purchase...
I want to preface my comments by saying that I think the PDML Annual idea, with the proceeds going to charity is one of the REALLY great things about this list. I had a photo in last year's, but haven't seen the book. And I haven't seen previous year's books either, so I really have nothing to compare it to. I'd love to purchase those back volumes, at some point, but for whatever reason - mostly financial - I haven't made it a top priority yet. The eBook offering, I thought, was a GREAT idea. Particularly if it actually raises more money for the charity than a book purchase. My original plan was to buy the eBook - because I'm impatient and it allows me to see it in screen form now and then purchase the hard cover version (resulting in even more moola for the charity, for each person who plans on doing the same). It also lowers the bar (total price) to being able to donate in the first place, which should result in more people becoming buyers. Terrific idea! We get to see it now, to satisfy our curiosity, and still have the book version in our hands at some point in the future. I can also appreciate how much work it probably is to put this all together and I think we are all very grateful to those that had a part in it, particularly Mark, for the hours and hours that go into the production, proof-reading, etc. along with (this year) the work of selecting a new charity to work with. It is with that in mind that I offer the following comments, in the interests of (perhaps) making next year's annual better than ever. I hope my comments are taken in the proper spirit, similar to the way we often ask for critique on our photographs without taking undue offense. True, Mark did not ask for such critique, which gives me pause. I first thought about sending them to Mark off-list, but I decided that putting it out there could allow for a bit of discussion on the various points below. Everyone can chime in on whether they think my thoughts are off base or might indeed make for a better annual next time around. I realize that, given this group's dynamic, there may be some (many?) that may take offense FOR Mark - but I hope we can keep the comments constructive and discuss them somewhat dispassionately. Discussion point No. 1: The page format and how it effects the size of the photos. Since the page layout was done in landscape mode, the way the book was designed made horizonal photographs appear much larger than vertical photographs, which I find unfortunate for the vertical photos and the photographers that submitted them. I would much rather see the photographs on equal footing with one another and presented in the same size. This is easily, and attractively done by using either a square page format, or selecting/creating a square portion of a portrait or landscape formatted page in which to present the photograph. (The square being, in effect, the mat for the photo.) If you must use a rectangular page format (either vert. or horiz.) then you could use some of the extra space beside the square image area for the title or a colored box with a few of the funny quotes on each page - rather than saving them for multiple pages at the end. Discussion point No. 2: The mats around the photographs and how they effect the size of the photos. I found the majority of the mats HUGELY distracting from the photograph itself. I understand that most, if not all, were taken from an element of the photograph itself which was blown up to create a color/texture, but I would argue that first and foremost the photographs themselves should be the stars of the page but it seemed more like it was look at the neat mats. They competed for attention with the photograph itself, in most cases and did not compliment them. The best mats (IMHO) were the most minimalistic mats such as those on: Christine's My Nephew, Akira Frank's Long Trip Home and César's Freeport Church In any event, I would rather see the photographs presented as physically large as possible on the page, and the mat provided another element to downsize them, which I found disappointing. Discussion point No. 3: The edge treatments around the photographs themselves. I don't know if this was added in the book design or if they were in the photographs submitted by the photographers, but I found the edge treatments again terribly distracting from the photograph itself. An attempt to gild the lily, as they say. ( http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/gild-the-lily.html ) Less distracting, but still unwelcome (IMHO) are the use of drop shadow or use of the cutout treatment to make the photograph look as if it was off the page or sunk behind the mat. You can see that I am all about the image itself. The book standards should be no different than a museum's display standards, for example. Mats are usually white. Or black. But usually white. With no texture. Discussion point No. 4: Everybody gets an image in. This year's book is apparently the largest yet. I expect this to be a
Enablement- upgrades...
Finally upgraded my K10D for a K-5; my son finally gets the K-r to replace the *ist DS...photos after this weekend :-) -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase
Ordered my copy...thanks Mark! On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910 ;-) Bonuses: If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25% discount! If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem. More information: I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00 total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes, Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out* review copies when I get them. I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone owed any favors by low people in high places?) I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the semester - things are getting busy now. See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/ Have at it! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
Daniel J. Matyola wrote on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:33:00 -0700 I'm not a professional, and really not even a craftsman, but I recognize a superiority complex when I see one.Defense of the old ways in the name of professionalism is a fine way of looking down one's nose at all who differ from one's own way of doing things. Many (but by no means all) Leica enthusiast are like that... After all, they are champions of a camera design which is virtually unchanged form the 1950s! Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase
Just got my epub version, it is splendid! You guys managed to produce and impressive collection of photos. And Mark managed to create an excellent coherent book. I was impressed by two previous books but this one is a huge leap forward! HUGE kudos to Mark. Btw, I am using http://bookworm.oreilly.com to read the book in browser. --Sasha On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Ordered my copy...thanks Mark! On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910 ;-) Bonuses: If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25% discount! If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem. More information: I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00 total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes, Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out* review copies when I get them. I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone owed any favors by low people in high places?) I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the semester - things are getting busy now. See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/ Have at it! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement- upgrades...
On 4/13/2011 18:37, Bong Manayon wrote: Finally upgraded my K10D for a K-5; my son finally gets the K-r to replace the *ist DS...photos after this weekend :-) Congratulations to both of you! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
OMG! All one paragraph. It's unreadable. The part I managed to get through before my eyes and brain hurt seemed silly and obvious. Paul On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: To be fair, his arguments are not without merit. I'm always suspicious, however, when anyone quotes Pirsig. Ultimately, Pirsig's view of quality is an I know it when I see it argument. It's not wrong, just difficult to apply and even harder to adjudicate when there is a difference of opinion. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:06 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same thought. Composition grade would drop. Ironic given the topic. On Apr 13, 2011 7:46am, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Someone needs to introduce that guy to the concept of the paragraph. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 6:18, Chris Sheppard wrote: My first was a Argus 126 plastic wonder: http://junkstorecameras.com/jscimages/Argus126.jpg My first 'real' camera was a Pentax ME Super, which I still have and will never let go. LOVE the ME Super. Even though I don't shoot with it anymore, I'll just keep it in the bag in the closet... no sense in getting rid of it. Every once in a while I'll do something silly like put the 16-50 on there and look through the HUGE viewfinder. Ha! That's exactly what I do every now and then to remind me how wonderful is the view through a good viewfinder. -- Chris Sheppard Zenfolio: http://csheppard.zenfolio.com/ Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/photodiversions/ Blog: http://photodiversions.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO s spinning fire
From: Walter Gilbert Great shots, Larry! I never quite got the hang of shooting the fire spinners while we were out there. The closest I manage to get was near the end of the spinning and was ruined by the fact that I'd zoomed in too tight so that the fire left the frame and re-entered at the outer edges. Kind of a bummer. Just means you've got a reason to go back and try again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors
From: Krisjanis Linkevics Thibouille I didn't think about those. Can they really replace a proper T/S lens ? A couple days ago I sent this little gallery of a T/S lens I made - no real-real-life shots yet (damn weather, work): http://foto.ri-ki.lv/categories.php?cat_id=6 I wouldn't think a real lensbaby could replace a T/S lens because even their best lens is sharp only in the center. At least for me it is way too expensive for what it provides. Also depends on the precision you need for your adjustments. kris AFAIK, the Lensbaby only manages the tilt part of tilt/shift. You might try contacting Zörk to see if they make an adapter to fit K-mount. http://www.zoerk.com/pages/products.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
First photo editing was a Federal enlarger - bought from some catalog for about $17 some time around 1953. The guy who owned the local studio supplied me with paper, chemicals and advice. First pixel editing was probably PaintShop; shareware from Jasc back in the early 1990s. Early versions didn't support layers. -p On 4/12/2011 6:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Just a follow up to Bills, what was your first camera. My first photo edit program was Corel draw 5 i think it was. Just after my purchase of a Kodak DC25. Dave -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
I wrote my own image editing application while I worked at NASA/JPL in 1984. It was simple and crude but got the job I needed done, ran on Macintosh and VAX/VMS. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gmail quoting
On 12/04/2011 19:36, steve harley wrote: On 2011-04-12 10:46 , Matthew Hunt wrote: One possibility: The material Dan quoted appears below his signature. Some mail applications suppress quoting signatures (presumably everything after the --). that's exactly it; two hyphens is a standard (actually borrowed from Usenet) to denote a signature block; Dan combined top-posting with a signature line, which put the entire quoted material into the signature area; Ann's email client is trying to be efficient by stripping what it thinks are signatures when quoting for replies I had this (at the time) baffling behaviour with NS7.x some years ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Skyline
BW for me - wins by a huge margin. --Sasha On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/16/2011 21:59, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/03/skyline.html http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/skyline-colour-version.html I think I prefer BW, because Parkdale is kind of a monochrome place to me. OTOH, some of you may enjoy the colours of the sign. Color for me, Frank. Among other things it also helps to get a glimpse on the weather which, as I understand, was rather chilly on that day. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
Etch-a-Sketch. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
Paul Stenquist wrote: OMG! All one paragraph. It's unreadable. The part I managed to get through before my eyes and brain hurt seemed silly and obvious. There's a story Galen Rowell related in one of his books about the post-workshop slide presentations he always used to have. Each participant got to pick a number of their own shots from the workshop to be shown. Now a slide can go into a projector 8 different ways and 7 of them are wrong. And it's not always apparent to others which orientation is correct. So Galen instructed everyone to mark their slides with a dot in the upper right corner of the mount, viewed from the side from which the slide looked correct. This tremendously speeds up getting a couple of hundred slides into a carousel. In every workshop, however, some people just couldn't get it right. They either forgot the dot or put it in the wrong location. Rowell observed that these people also invariably produced the weakest photographs. He concluded that their lack of awareness/care/attention in marking the slide was not just confined to slide marking but affected their creative output as well. Doug Brewer and I see a similar effect at the GFM photo contest we judge: the people who mess up the (very simple) file-naming convention never produce winning photos. Anyway, I think the article in question shows that a similar phenomenon exists with regards to the written word. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Etch-a-Sketch. Magna-Doodle had a more intuitive, pen-based interface. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris PESO #9 - Impressions
Hi there. Here is another one somewhat similar, at least from technical stand point to the previous ones... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-09-impressions.html Brutal and honest comments are as always going to be appreciated. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase
From: Brian Walters On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:18 -0400, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910 ;-) Done! Ordered the hard cover with dust jacket. The GMA code doesn't seem to work outside the USA. When I tried I got two error messages: * Sorry, this promotion cannot be be applied to books you did not author. * Sorry, the promotion code you entered isn't available in your selected currency. Make sure you've selected the right currency. So I changed the currency to $US, which got rid of the second message but I was still stuck with the first. No matter! Looking forward to its arrival. Got the books you did not author error message in the USA as well. Ordered Softcover Hardcover, Dust Jacket. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Etch-a-Sketch. Magna-Doodle had a more intuitive, pen-based interface. That's why we purists sneer at it! ;-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions
Sorry, Boris, but doesn't do anything for me Bill On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. Here is another one somewhat similar, at least from technical stand point to the previous ones... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-09-impressions.html Brutal and honest comments are as always going to be appreciated. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
Brownie Hawkeye (flash was long gone before I got it) ... a gift from my grandmother, it was her old camera. After that I had a number of Kodak cartridge film cameras in 126 110, until the first SLR I bought during my first attempt at college (1968 or so) - a Praktika, I don't remember the model. Wore the shutter out took it to the recommended repairman who closed up shop with no warning. One day he was there, and the next he was gone along with my camera. After that, I had a number of SX series Polaroid cameras until I got an A3000 some time in the mid 80s. It was Pentax's latest greatest at the time, and more importantly they had it in stock at the PX. Kept it about 3 months before trading it in on a used Super Program. And the rest is, as they say, history ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions
That works nicely, Boris! On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. Here is another one somewhat similar, at least from technical stand point to the previous ones... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-09-impressions.html Brutal and honest comments are as always going to be appreciated. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What was your first camera?
I used several cameras belonging to my parents and grandparents, but the first that was actually mine was a Minute 16 that used a tiny cassette loaded with 16mm film. My first serious camera was an Argus C-3, purchased in 1962 for $25. Next was a Honeywell Pentax H1a. Cost was $150 paid off at $10/month. -p On 4/13/2011 8:52 AM, Morris Galloway wrote: Voigtlander Bessamatic with a 50mm lens. SLR with leaf shutter. Learned a lot in a hurry. I was 15. Back to Lurking. G. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors
From: Peter Zalabai Not sure what's cheap for you, but you might want to have a look at the Hartblei and Arsat lenses: http://www.hartblei.com/lenses/general_info.htm In Soviet Russia the lenses tilt you! :) Regards, .timber When you go to the price list you find the following message: Super-Rotator lenses are out of stock ... (please, don't ask about availability - if item is available, it's mentioned in the price list) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
From: William Robb On 12/04/2011 5:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Just a follow up to Bills, what was your first camera. My first photo edit program was Corel draw 5 i think it was. Just after my purchase of a Kodak DC25. Dave Some Microsoft thing that came with a scanner that I had purchased. Photoshop 5 Limited Edition that came with Nikon Coolscan IV ED. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement- upgrades...
On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: Finally upgraded my K10D for a K-5; Congratulations. Welcome to the club. my son finally gets the K-r to replace the *ist DS...photos after this weekend :-) Are you competing with Boris for the best dad award? -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
From: Mark Roberts http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Someone needs to introduce that guy to the concept of the paragraph. I also disagreed with his definition of professionalism. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors
But Arsat lenses are available: MC PCS Arsat 45mm / f=3.5 Shift w/ Pentacon Six or Kiev 88 lens mount 295$ Just put a Pentacon to PK adapter and you get a cheap Shift lens. No T/S but better than nothing. 2011/4/13 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: Peter Zalabai Not sure what's cheap for you, but you might want to have a look at the Hartblei and Arsat lenses: http://www.hartblei.com/lenses/general_info.htm In Soviet Russia the lenses tilt you! :) Regards, .timber When you go to the price list you find the following message: Super-Rotator lenses are out of stock ... (please, don't ask about availability - if item is available, it's mentioned in the price list) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
From: Mark Roberts Paul Stenquist wrote: OMG! All one paragraph. It's unreadable. The part I managed to get through before my eyes and brain hurt seemed silly and obvious. There's a story Galen Rowell related in one of his books about the post-workshop slide presentations he always used to have. Each participant got to pick a number of their own shots from the workshop to be shown. Now a slide can go into a projector 8 different ways and 7 of them are wrong. And it's not always apparent to others which orientation is correct. So Galen instructed everyone to mark their slides with a dot in the upper right corner of the mount, viewed from the side from which the slide looked correct. This tremendously speeds up getting a couple of hundred slides into a carousel. In every workshop, however, some people just couldn't get it right. They either forgot the dot or put it in the wrong location. Rowell observed that these people also invariably produced the weakest photographs. He concluded that their lack of awareness/care/attention in marking the slide was not just confined to slide marking but affected their creative output as well. Doug Brewer and I see a similar effect at the GFM photo contest we judge: the people who mess up the (very simple) file-naming convention never produce winning photos. That doesn't, however, make the opposite true. My file names were *PERFECT*! Anyway, I think the article in question shows that a similar phenomenon exists with regards to the written word. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
Mark wrote: Doug Brewer and I see a similar effect at the GFM photo contest we judge: the people who mess up the (very simple) file-naming convention never produce winning photos. Anyway, I think the article in question shows that a similar phenomenon exists with regards to the written word. I see that frequently at work. I get to review resumes and perform technical phone interviews with candidates. I recently had a 16-page double-spaced resume submitted from a guy with 10 years experience (my 30 years is condensed to 4 pages). The resume was so loaded with grammatical errors I stopped marking it up. One 4-line bulleted paragraph was repeated almost verbatim for four different employers. The resume frequently explained how something worked vs. what the individual did. The phone interview went the same. Long rambling answers that did not answer the questions. When I drilled down to elicit specific responses they were vague or incorrect. I instantly think that if this document is the single most important document essential to your career success and so little attention is paid to detail, content, and quality, what kind of software and written documents will you produce for the client? Tom -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:49 AM, John Sessoms wrote: That doesn't, however, make the opposite true. My file names were *PERFECT*! I saw a photographer drinking a Pina Colada at Grandfather mountain, his filenames were perfect. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors
Only the Hartblei one. The Arsat (rebranded as Arax or Photex) one is still selling: 35mm f2.8: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arax-Photex-2-8-35mm-TILT-SHIFT-lens-Pentax-M42-camera-/170620854199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3hash=item27b9cb9fb7#ht_wt_1141 80mm f2.8: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arax-Photex-2-8-80mm-TILT-SHIFT-lens-Pentax-M42-camera-/170620853126?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3hash=item27b9cb9b86#ht_1052wt_1141 And you can also find used one on Ebay sometimes... .t Ps.: I just made this picture today with PSix adaptor and Flektogon 50/f4, tilted at 8: http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5615919487/ On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 13:26 -0400, John Sessoms wrote: From: Peter Zalabai Not sure what's cheap for you, but you might want to have a look at the Hartblei and Arsat lenses: http://www.hartblei.com/lenses/general_info.htm In Soviet Russia the lenses tilt you! :) Regards, .timber When you go to the price list you find the following message: Super-Rotator lenses are out of stock ... (please, don't ask about availability - if item is available, it's mentioned in the price list) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase
Do you need a tablet to read the ebook.?? Dave On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: Just got my epub version, it is splendid! You guys managed to produce and impressive collection of photos. And Mark managed to create an excellent coherent book. I was impressed by two previous books but this one is a huge leap forward! HUGE kudos to Mark. Btw, I am using http://bookworm.oreilly.com to read the book in browser. --Sasha On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Ordered my copy...thanks Mark! On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910 ;-) Bonuses: If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25% discount! If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem. More information: I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00 total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes, Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out* review copies when I get them. I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone owed any favors by low people in high places?) I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the semester - things are getting busy now. See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/ Have at it! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions
Would work for me only as a peripherally detected black and white pattern. Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 9:48 AM Hi there. Here is another one somewhat similar, at least from technical stand point to the previous ones... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/04/peso-2011-09-impressions.html Brutal and honest comments are as always going to be appreciated. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
The first couple sentences... The last few weeks I took pictures with a fifty-year-old Leica M3 that recently has been serviced with minor adjustments. This was the first overhaul in half a century and given the small amount of repairs it should now be fit for another half century. ...already describe the person. All lab technicians I spoke to about tuning old Leicas told me they mostly get horribly mis-adjusted cameras to restore as possible. That's not a Leica fault, it's the unavoidable problem for any decently-built mechanical camera of that age. A mechanical camera cannon be tuned as precisely as a typical Leica owner dreams of when new, go figure a fifty-year-old one. However, any polite technician will always assure the Leica owner his camera only needed minor adjustments. That said, it is true that a mechanical camera from the fifties will operate much longer than an electronic one. Take it for granted. That also applies to say a SV, a Spotmatic or a K1000. I own a couple Asahiflexes (mid-fifties) which look like having been manufactured in late 2010 and work flawlessly, adjusted more or less like you can expect from a Leica of the same vintage. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... Regards, Jim Whoa! That article amply demonstrates why paragraphs are a Good Idea. I'd like to read it, but I'm put off by that swollen river of run-on text. Erwin Puts hardly ever writes anything worth reading, paragraphs or not. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
While it is true that the sensor may have a limited lifespan, how long does he really expect to be using his camera? You have to move on at some point. Why? That's just a justification for built-in obsolescence to satisfy the manufacturers, not the consumers. It's nostalgia speaking here. It's hip to say that you shoot film, and that you shot film before it was cool. Guess what, the rest of the world has moved on. If he wants to shoot film, he can do that. He has an M9. He's moaning that the sensor will be f_cked in a relatively short time, and will reduce the lifespan of the camera compared to his M3. It seems perfectly reasonable to want a camera that costs £5,000.00 to last a long time. If the sensor fails after, say, 20 years, and the rest of the body is designed to last 50, someone in the accounting department will ask why they are wasting so much cost in the body, and lower the quality so that it too has a life expectancy of only 20 years, and before you know it Leicas will be made of cardboard. People are still using Leicas from the 13th century, or thereabouts. Long may they continue to do so! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors
It sort of depends what you are wanting to shoot. Do you need infinity focus? Do you need a wide angle view? It is hard to have it all without buying a tilt-shift lens that was made for your mount. I'm no expert on this, but learned a bit when creating this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157606681839809/ The main thing working against me on this was the prism/pentamirror overhang on my K200D. You wouldn't need as big an adapter on the back if you wanted to use my contraption with a film SLR and so might still be able to get infinity focus. But it is still going to be a 90mm focal length lens. My idea was to take the rise and swing built into the old folder and put it to use on a DSLR. The problem is that if your lens is farther away from the film plane (sensor) than designed, you will lose infinity focus. (But it will work for stuff closer). Larger format lenses have larger flange to film distances, so will definitely work better - but the problem is that they will be longer focal length than what you probably wanted. You'll notice that most tilt shift lenses are on wide angle lenses for the format. Here the 1.5x crop factor of APS-C DSLRs is also working against you. So, the best solution would be to have a tilt/shift adapter that worked with your camera and the widest angle 645 lens you can find. For example: the Pentax 645 35mm f/3.5 A SMC K Shift lens (28mm f3.5) recently sold for a bit north of $600 including shipping: http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-K-SMC-Shift-28mm-f-3-5-Lens-MINT-/360356155270?pt=Camera_Lenseshash=item53e6e68f86#ht_4668wt_1139 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Why? That's just a justification for built-in obsolescence to satisfy the manufacturers, not the consumers. While it would be nice for a camera to last forever, I don't see much to complain about in relation to the days of film. My K10D is 4 years old. It still works fine. I want a K-5, but only because the K-5 is better, not because the K10D is any worse than when I got it. In the 4 years I've had my K10D, I estimate that I would have spent about $3,000 in film and processing to take the same number of exposures on film. So if my K10D dies today, why should I complain about the cost of a new body? If periodic replacement/upgrade of digital bodies isn't cheaper than shooting film, then either you're spending too much on the bodies (*cough* Leica *cough*) or you're not taking enough pictures (*cough* collectors *cough*). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase
No. I read it on my desktop and laptop with a free Firefox plug-in. Dan On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Do you need a tablet to read the ebook.?? Dave On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: Just got my epub version, it is splendid! You guys managed to produce and impressive collection of photos. And Mark managed to create an excellent coherent book. I was impressed by two previous books but this one is a huge leap forward! HUGE kudos to Mark. Btw, I am using http://bookworm.oreilly.com to read the book in browser. --Sasha On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Ordered my copy...thanks Mark! On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Cut to the chase: http://www.blurb.com/my/book/detail/2098910 ;-) Bonuses: If you order today and enter the code GMA (must be all upper-case letters) in the discount code box during checkout you'll get a 25% discount! If you buy the hardcover with dust jacket version of the book (not the ImageWrap) you get bonus photos on the inner flaps of the dust jacket, one by Rick Womer and one by Carl Gjersem. More information: I want to express my appreciation to all who donated to the book promotional fund. Most people contributed $5.00 and we got $340.00 total. With the 10% volume discount and the 25% GMA discount (yes, Blurb allowed both discounts) I was able to order a dozen books for the price of 10, including shipping costs. I think there's even a bit left over in the kitty to allow me postage money for sending *out* review copies when I get them. I'm looking for suggestions/ideas for promotion. Print magazine reviews are pretty much out of the question: They already get more review samples than they have time for and we'd be just an tiny fish in a big sea (unless we can get someone on the inside to help - anyone owed any favors by low people in high places?) I'm also offering the ebook version on line for $6.00 through my own web site at the moment. I've worked out a deal to offer it through the Apple iTunes store through one of their official distributors, but I won't be able to finish the paperwork and details until the end of the semester - things are getting busy now. See http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/ Have at it! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
My first image editing program was a library of 8088 assembly code I wrote a lonnng time ago. It worked more like ImageMagick (batch mode) than Photoshop (interactive). Of course, that was back when MS-DOS 2.0 (IBM PC XT) was the current version. And there wasn't any such thing as an image editing program on the PC, as far as I knew. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gmail quoting
On 2011-04-13 11:31, mike wilson wrote: that's exactly it; two hyphens is a standard (actually borrowed from Usenet) to denote a signature block; Dan combined top-posting with a signature line, which put the entire quoted material into the signature area; Ann's email client is trying to be efficient by stripping what it thinks are signatures when quoting for replies I had this (at the time) baffling behaviour with NS7.x some years ago. That's also one of the original arguments against top posting, for what it's worth. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
I also used Micrografx Picture Publisher and really liked it. Then i got access to PS for free and couldn't justify PP anymore. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:19 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Micrografx Picture Publisher. I think I started with V3, and used it up to V9 or V10. Then I switched over to Photoshop Elements V3, and Lightroom (from the Beta program onwards). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts on my first PDML annual purchase...
Darren, I tend to agree with you in number 1 and specially 2 and 3. I always preferred the classical black background, that focuses more on the pictures although in this kind of books it presents some problems with dark pictures, where it is difficult to distinghish the edges from the background. But this is a matter of taste so I can easily imagine others preferring the current style. About number 4, I understant that the spirit of the book is to show PDMLers' work, not the best work among all PDMLers. Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: mié,13 abril, 2011 17:36 Asunto: Some thoughts on my first PDML annual purchase... Discussion point No. 1: The page format and how it effects the size of the photos. Discussion point No. 2: The mats around the photographs and how they effect the size of the photos. Discussion point No. 3: The edge treatments around the photographs themselves. Discussion point No. 4: Everybody gets an image in. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
On 2011-04-13 11:32, Steven Desjardins wrote: I appreciate that the old film cameras had a longer lifespan than the digital ones. The problem is that for many of us color was a thing left to the labs, whereas BW was a medium were we could do some PP. Now color is there as well. I started reading it and putting together a point by point rebuttal. It got way too long, way too fast. So, I'm going to sum up my response: Bull pucky! Starting with flawed definitions for professionalism and craftsmanship and going on down the line. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Before the Storm
Just popping in to post a quick PESO, well two if you count different renderings. Not much of a stretch but I liked it. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20beforethestorm.html then the BW version http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20beforethestormbw-pt.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Note: BW conversion done with BW Plus with a faux Green filter applied, then a Platinum layer applied. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT What was your first editing program
Photoshop 4.0, I got it bundled with something. Then I got Elements 2.0 bundled with something else. I can't remember which I installed first. On 4/12/2011 7:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Just a follow up to Bills, what was your first camera. My first photo edit program was Corel draw 5 i think it was. Just after my purchase of a Kodak DC25. Dave -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
On Apr 12, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Jim King wrote: This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html I find that his writing displays neither professionalism, nor craftsmanship. Like others, I disagree with his definition of professionalism, and would describe it as doing a job that is good enough, without wasting too much time or resources on doing it better than it needs to be. Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... The stereotypical Leica owner does have a reputation for being a Puts, though it's usually spelled a little differently. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
MARK! On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The stereotypical Leica owner does have a reputation for being a Puts, though it's usually spelled a little differently. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: White evergreen
Outside of my usual visual vocabulary: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/04/13/-big/RUNE0018.jpg.html Might make a nice poster for an ultra-postmodern downtown apartment... -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Black Cat on Frozen Lake
Here's high praise: When I saw this post I went back and looked at the picture again, which is a very rare event. It's a very pleasing image. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/17/2011 09:19, Bulent Celasun wrote: From a recent trip to easternmost Turkey. http://500px.com/photo/437321 Bulent - http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun Let me join the chorus of praises of this most successful shot, even though I am coming late here... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Black Cat on Frozen Lake
BTW, you did submit this to the PPG, right? On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Here's high praise: When I saw this post I went back and looked at the picture again, which is a very rare event. It's a very pleasing image. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/17/2011 09:19, Bulent Celasun wrote: From a recent trip to easternmost Turkey. http://500px.com/photo/437321 Bulent - http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun Let me join the chorus of praises of this most successful shot, even though I am coming late here... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thoughts on my first PDML annual purchase...
I have the previous print editions on my coffee table. I also got the ebook version this year because I couldn't wait and plan to get the print version later. The ebook version doesn't pop in my ebook readers on PC or Ipad. The photo's are maybe one third of the screen. I hope Mark produces a PDF version to carry it around and show other people the amazing PDML work. The matting was a surprise. It does work on most photo's. I need to see it larger in print, I'm not sure on my photo in epub size. Toine On 13 April 2011 17:36, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I want to preface my comments by saying that I think the PDML Annual idea, with the proceeds going to charity is one of the REALLY great things about this list. I had a photo in last year's, but haven't seen the book. And I haven't seen previous year's books either, so I really have nothing to compare it to. I'd love to purchase those back volumes, at some point, but for whatever reason - mostly financial - I haven't made it a top priority yet. The eBook offering, I thought, was a GREAT idea. Particularly if it actually raises more money for the charity than a book purchase. My original plan was to buy the eBook - because I'm impatient and it allows me to see it in screen form now and then purchase the hard cover version (resulting in even more moola for the charity, for each person who plans on doing the same). It also lowers the bar (total price) to being able to donate in the first place, which should result in more people becoming buyers. Terrific idea! We get to see it now, to satisfy our curiosity, and still have the book version in our hands at some point in the future. I can also appreciate how much work it probably is to put this all together and I think we are all very grateful to those that had a part in it, particularly Mark, for the hours and hours that go into the production, proof-reading, etc. along with (this year) the work of selecting a new charity to work with. It is with that in mind that I offer the following comments, in the interests of (perhaps) making next year's annual better than ever. I hope my comments are taken in the proper spirit, similar to the way we often ask for critique on our photographs without taking undue offense. True, Mark did not ask for such critique, which gives me pause. I first thought about sending them to Mark off-list, but I decided that putting it out there could allow for a bit of discussion on the various points below. Everyone can chime in on whether they think my thoughts are off base or might indeed make for a better annual next time around. I realize that, given this group's dynamic, there may be some (many?) that may take offense FOR Mark - but I hope we can keep the comments constructive and discuss them somewhat dispassionately. Discussion point No. 1: The page format and how it effects the size of the photos. Since the page layout was done in landscape mode, the way the book was designed made horizonal photographs appear much larger than vertical photographs, which I find unfortunate for the vertical photos and the photographers that submitted them. I would much rather see the photographs on equal footing with one another and presented in the same size. This is easily, and attractively done by using either a square page format, or selecting/creating a square portion of a portrait or landscape formatted page in which to present the photograph. (The square being, in effect, the mat for the photo.) If you must use a rectangular page format (either vert. or horiz.) then you could use some of the extra space beside the square image area for the title or a colored box with a few of the funny quotes on each page - rather than saving them for multiple pages at the end. Discussion point No. 2: The mats around the photographs and how they effect the size of the photos. I found the majority of the mats HUGELY distracting from the photograph itself. I understand that most, if not all, were taken from an element of the photograph itself which was blown up to create a color/texture, but I would argue that first and foremost the photographs themselves should be the stars of the page but it seemed more like it was look at the neat mats. They competed for attention with the photograph itself, in most cases and did not compliment them. The best mats (IMHO) were the most minimalistic mats such as those on: Christine's My Nephew, Akira Frank's Long Trip Home and César's Freeport Church In any event, I would rather see the photographs presented as physically large as possible on the page, and the mat provided another element to downsize them, which I found disappointing. Discussion point No. 3: The edge treatments around the photographs themselves. I don't know if this was added in the book design or if they were in the photographs submitted by the photographers, but I found the edge treatments again terribly
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
On 4/13/2011 9:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Someone needs to introduce that guy to the concept of the paragraph. I'll do that Dave Given the perversity of the universe, all you'll manage to do is teach him how to spell... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
I just loaded film into my ~30 year old LX, damn that camera is a joy to hold. On 4/13/2011 10:12 AM, David Parsons wrote: While it is true that the sensor may have a limited lifespan, how long does he really expect to be using his camera? You have to move on at some point. It's nostalgia speaking here. It's hip to say that you shoot film, and that you shot film before it was cool. Guess what, the rest of the world has moved on. If he wants to shoot film, he can do that. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Jim Kingjamesk8...@mac.com wrote: This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Any PDML folks near Northridge, CA?
Looks like I'm going out to visit the folks at JBL in Northridge CA next week. I should have some evening time available. Anybody out that way? Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
On Apr 13, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: MARK! On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The stereotypical Leica owner does have a reputation for being a Puts, though it's usually spelled a little differently. It's actually fairly common that owners of high quality gear tend to fall into two groups. Those that spend the money because they need the quality, and those that buy the gear for bragging rights. There are also a few people that may not actually make full use of the performance, but buy the equipment from an aesthetic appreciation of the quality. The same is true of cameras, cars, tools, and probably sewing machines, dishwashers and vacuum cleaners. Of course, very few people actually think that they spend the extra money just for the snob appeal, they usually think that they're making use of the performance, or at least out of appreciation of, dare I say, the craftsmanship. I can't help but wonder if Pentax owners have a similar reputation for annoyingly bragging about how our cameras perform as well, or better, than other brands, but cost so much less. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism
Writing such as this is more likely the result of a compensated inferiority complex. On 4/13/2011 11:32 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I'm not a professional, and really not even a craftsman, but I recognize a superiority complex when I see one.Defense of the old ways in the name of professionalism is a fine way of looking down one's nose at all who differ from one's own way of doing things. Dan On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Jim Kingjamesk8...@mac.com wrote: Jim King wrote on Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:58:35 -0700 This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica... Lots of comments in the Leica Users Forum about Puts' post: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/176273-new-blog-entry-erwin-puts.html Many of them have the same criticism of his writing/composing style as the posts here. I hope that his thoughts will not get lost in the criticism of his style; his arguments for the old ways are worth considering, and some of his criticism of our digital era are on target IMO. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Black Cat on Frozen Lake
Boris and Steven, Thank you very much for your comments. And Steven, YES. A fellow PDML member (Ms. Ann Sanfedele, if my memory is serving me well) has suggested that I should submit more to PPG. After that advice I submitted two images and this particular one was accepted. It is great to be here; as a photographer, as a smart arse, as none or as both! Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun 2011/4/13 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: BTW, you did submit this to the PPG, right? On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Here's high praise: When I saw this post I went back and looked at the picture again, which is a very rare event. It's a very pleasing image. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/17/2011 09:19, Bulent Celasun wrote: From a recent trip to easternmost Turkey. http://500px.com/photo/437321 Bulent - http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun Let me join the chorus of praises of this most successful shot, even though I am coming late here... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
