comment

2004-06-13 Thread Devine, James
see http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/2004/06/12/
 
jd



Re: Love Affair Update - additional comment

2004-03-12 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 why send the lyrics to the list?  It does not add much.

Sorry. A bit of dark sarcasm. I'll try to be more constructive and observe
good style. Okay then. From a linguistic point of view, in American idiom,
the expression America's love affair with..., America's love of/with...
etc. is in truth applied to a variety of American fascinations, real or
imputed, sometimes sincerely and sometimes cynically or sarcastically
(including the rebel, baseball, Israel, fresh herbs, SUVs, the community,
littering etc.).

In literature, for example, we have Norman Mailer writing in Marylin,
chapter 1, that So we think of Marilyn who was every man's love affair with
America. Marilyn Monroe who was blonde and beautiful and had a sweet little
rinky-dink of a voice and all the cleanliness of all the clean American
backyards.  But the expression surfaces also in Britain, Ireland and
Australia these days, i.e. it has become a generalised Anglo-Saxon
expression gladly adopted by the car industry. Examples:

As was said by the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, however, one cannot deny that
the motor car has fundamentally changed our way of life. It is a vitally
important part of the way in which society functions. I agree with the noble
Lord's point about social attitudes towards cars. The motor industry is
probably the most ultimate symbol of the love affair with the car. The car
has become one's personal space and it allows personal freedom--or at least
it appears to. The motor industry presents us with an object which travels
at tremendous speed requiring the driver's tremendous skill and in strident
competition. It is something to which people can relate.

- Lord Addington, speech to the British Parliament, 24 Jan 1996

To say that the United Kingdom has had a love affair with the car is not to
overstate the matter. This is particularly so in Northern Ireland, where
motor sport and cars have been a big part of social life. Because of our
interest and for reasons of the economy, geography and social background, th
e car has been to the fore in planning. I am not saying that that is a bad
thing, but it is part of a situation that has evolved: cars have become very
necessary. Someone said that we have come to a defining moment. It is a
defining moment for the individual, for public transport and for the rural
aspect. It is a defining moment for planning issues, for the Government and
for the car industry. These are all areas of great concern, as is the
environment, including the quality of the air.

- Mr McAlister, Northern Ireland Forum for Political Dialogue, 14 November
1997

The year 1903 marks the beginning of Australia's love affair with the car,
now a century-long romance that has fostered some remarkable engineers,
entrepreneurs and trading partners, not to mention rally and racing drivers.

http://www.focus.com.au/motoring/

When I was a student in Thatcherite times, I saw a political movie once
called The Plowman's Lunch about Thatcherism, I think starring Jeremy
Irons, a sort of British version of Sam Neill. The Plowman's Lunch was the
name given to a dish marketed as an English traditional dish, even although
in reality the label was just invented one day by an entrepreneur as a
commercial venture. It is thus quite possible that similarly the concept of
America's love affair with the car is a latter-day ascription; while it
might recall James Dean and Jack Kerouac, in fact I personally cannot trace
a use of this exact expression in the 1950s, and thus I venture to suggest,
this idiom came into wider use only in the 1970s. The Dutch tend to talk
more about our holy cows in reference to personal cars.

Hope this helps :-)  - 

Jurriaan


DeLong on Paul Sweezy - brief comment on law of value

2004-03-02 Thread Charles Brown
Jim raised the question in that post Yoshie mentions: But then again,

I'm not sure exactly what it means to have to have the law of value

continuing to operate under socialism. Does that mean that the economy

isn't totally under a plan?

^^^
 And that some goods and services are traded based on the socially necessary
labortime in them  ?

Charles Brown


Re: DeLong on Paul Sweezy - brief comment on law of value

2004-03-02 Thread Waistline2




"But then again, I'm not sure exactly what it means to have to have "the law of value"continuing "to operate under socialism." Does that mean that the economyisn't totally under a plan?
Comment 

"The Economic Development of the USSR" by Roger Munting, St. Martin Press 1982 contains enough stats to interest a professional economist and not bore a lay person. The book begins before the October Revolution and traces economic events up to 1980. Munting critically examines agriculture and industry in the Soviet Union - their relationship to one another and technological transfer from the capitalist world, which required the Soviets to purchase items on the basis of the law of value under the bourgeois property relations. 

The issue is not "planning" as such but the exchange of labor hours - within the borders of the Soviets and in its relations with the capitalist world (foreign exchange) based on an existing technological regime. 

There is an old joke that says, the Soviets would overthrow world capitalism and allow one capitalist country to exists so that they would know how to price products. 

Melvin P. 



It is sometimes asked whether the law of value exists and operates in our country, under the socialist system. 
  Yes, it does exist and does operate. Wherever commodities and commodity production exist, there the law of value must also exist. 
  In our country, the sphere of operation of the law of value extends, first of all, to commodity circulation, to the exchange of commodities through purchase and sale, the exchange, chiefly, of articles of personal consumption. Here, in this sphere, the law of value preserves, within certain limits, of course, the function of a regulator. 
 But the operation of the law of value is not confined to the sphere of commodity circulation. It also extends to production. True, the law of value has no regulating function in our socialist production, but it nevertheless influences production, and this fact cannot be ignored when directing production. As a matter of fact, consumer goods, which are needed to compensate the labour power expended in the process of production, are produced and realized in our country as commodities coming under the operation of the law of value. It is precisely here that the law of value exercises its influence on production. In this connection, such things as cost accounting and profitableness, production costs, prices, etc., are of actual importance in our enterprises. Consequently, our enterprises cannot, and must not, function without taking the law of value into account. 
  Is this a good thing? It is not a bad thing. Under present conditions, it really is not a bad thing, since it trains our business executives to conduct production on rational lines and disciplines them. It is not a bad thing because it teaches our executives to count production magnitudes, to count them accurately, and also to calculate the real things in production precisely, and not to talk nonsense about "approximate figures," spun out of thin air. It is not a bad thing because it teaches our executives to look for, find and utilize hidden reserves latent in production, and not to trample them under foot. It is not a bad thing because it teaches our executives systematically to improve methods of production, to lower production costs, to practise cost accounting, and to make their enterprises pay. It is a good practical school which accelerates the development of our executive personnel and their growth into genuine leaders of socialist production at the present stage of development. 
 The trouble is not that production in our country is influenced by the law of value. The trouble is that our business executives and planners, with few exceptions, are poorly acquainted with the operations of the law of value, do not study them, and are unable to take account of them in their computations. This, in fact, explains the confusion that still reigns in the sphere of price-fixing policy. Here is one of many examples. 
(Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR - J.V. Stalin) 
http://www.marx2mao.org/Stalin/EPS52.html


Re: DeLong on Paul Sweezy - brief comment on law of value

2004-03-01 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 So, Sweezy wished to clarify the meanings of the terms socialism
 and communism by saying that the law of value still continues to
 operate under socialism to the extent that economy is capitalistic,
 i.e., governed by market discipline, whereas it won't under communism
 worth its name.  As Jim Devine said four years ago, Well, this is a
 pretty mild and inconsequential thing to agree with Stalin [or the
 Soviet economist(s) who wrote the work attributed to Stalin] about

Jim raised the question in that post Yoshie mentions: But then again,
I'm not sure exactly what it means to have to have the law of value
continuing to operate under socialism. Does that mean that the economy
isn't totally under a plan?

The answer to Jim's question is really that in the USSR you basically had
(at the risk of simplification) a capital goods sector where the
distribution of inputs and outputs were mainly regulated by the plan
according to administered prices and countertrade agreements etc., and a
consumer goods sector, where at least many outputs were priced either by
regulating prices (controlled by the planning authorities) or by market
prices. In some areas that worked very well, but in some areas it did not
work much at all, in which case the result was black and grey markets,
informal trading and so on. A market is not necessarily a capitalist
market, since it is not necessarily dominated by the imperative of private
capital accumulation. Market refers only to a regular pattern of trade
involving a certain number of buyers and sellers applying to a specific
supply and demand, but just exactly what the nature of that trade is, what
the terms of exchange are, can vary and need not necessarily be dominated by
private bourgeois accumulation. This is ABC for any economic historian or
anthropologist.

In a certain sense, what you had in the USSR was an extended social
democracy without much popular democracy. It is amazing really how well it
worked economically, relatively speaking, even in the absence of many civil
liberties, popular democracy and many modern communication/information
technologies - the material conditions of life could be improved very fast,
for a very large number of people.  To a certain extent this was of course
due directly to forced labour. But forced labour by itself cannot explain
the successes of Soviet economic growth, you can see this easily by looking
at the quantitative proportions of labour what was truly forced. In
reality, economic modernisation in the USSR wasn't simply a question of
workers being forced to produce a surplus for bureaucrats. There was also
genuine enthusiasm for improving the conditions of life, and improving human
culture, and people felt they had a personal stake in improving their
society. There was both cynicism and enthusiasm.

The reason why markets weren't abolished despite state controls, is of
course because you still had wage-labour, and a large portion of claims to
consumer goods and services were realised through a waged income in roubles;
Soviet citizens had a constitutionally guaranteed right to work, an
obligation (duty) to work, and a lot of job security as well, but, those
jobs took the form of wage work, and the possibilities for job mobility
often wasn't very great, given the way the larbour market was organised.

So even if Soviet workers couldn't buy what they wanted with their roubles,
economic exchange therefore wasn't abolished at all, formally or informally,
all sorts of trading (including barter) continued to occur. But the terms of
exchange were drastically changed, being to a large extent controlled,
regulated and limited by the authorities.

The law of value states, in its most general (transhistorical) expression,
that globally speaking, the value of commodities in exchange is regulated or
determined by the socially necessary work-time required to produce them.
This law, expresses the social necessity of a relationship between
production costs and social needs, and it applies to markets, and ONLY to ma
rkets, and therefore, it concerns relative price levels of goods and
services, and relative exchange-ratios in trading. The word value in the
exp[ression law of value applies to the value of the object of trade. It
sets limits to what relative price levels can be, it sets limits to relative
exchange-ratios, and it means that relative productivity levels reached in
producing output, influence the direction in which relative and absolute
prices move, because cost considerations will change the terms of exchange,
and balance them out over time, given a relatively constant basic
consumption structure.

To the extent that administered prices had nothing to do anymore with real
production cost or real demand for products, and competition between
enterprises for sales could not level out prices, or establish regulating
prices in an open market, the law of value was no longer a regulative
principle for trade in the USSR; the exchange-ratios of traded 

World money, countertrade and exchange relations - additional comment on services

2004-02-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I quoted Marx on services as follows:

Thus, because the specific relation of labour and capital is not contained
at all in this purchase of services; because it has either been completely
extinguished or was never present, it is naturally the favourite form used
by Say, Bastiat and their associates to express the relation of capital and
labour.

As an aside, I think it is worth mentioning that Marx was thinking here
mainly about personal services, and that he modified his idea somewhat when
he prepared Capital Vol. 1 for publication.

Thus, his analysis of the paid work process provided there provides a much
more sophisticated analysis of the real subsumption of human work by
capital, and subsequently, in discussing value-augmentation through
production, Marx writes e.g. that Capitalist production is not merely the
production of commodities, it is essentially the production of
surplus-value. The worker produces, not for himself, but for capital. It no
longer suffices, therefore, that he should simply produce. He must produce a
surplus-value. That worker is productive only, who produces surplus-value
for the capitalist, and therefore works for the valorisation of capital. If
we may take an example from outside the sphere of production of material
objects, a schoolmaster is a productive worker when, in addition to
belabouring the heads of his schholars, he works like a horse to enrich the
school proprietor. That the latter has laid out his capital in a teaching
factory, instead of in a sausage factory, does not change the relation.
Hence the concept of productive work doesn't simply imply a relationship
between work and useful effect (a service being defined as the useful effect
of a use-value - JB), between the worker and the output of work, but also a
specific, social relation of production, a relation which has sprung up
historically and stamps the worker as the direct means of creating a
surplus-value.

The specific investigation of services was never advanced very much in
Marxian scholarship beyond generalities, verities and platitudes, in
particular because most authors do not grasp that the problem is about the
specifically capitalist modification of the division of human work, the
restructuring of inputs and outputs to conform to the requirements of
capitalistic value-accretion, and to the pattern of the real subsumption of
human work by Capital.

Ernest Mandel correctly noted that many activities which are called or
statistically classified as production of services are really production
of tangible goods, or part of the production of goods (Le troisieme age du
capitalisme). That is really because in the foundational categorisation of
the occupational division of work, statisticians lack a theoretical basis or
scientific analysis of social relations, and hence, the categorisation made
is descriptive, it is based just on the actual occupational divisions which
there actually are, and which of course are modified over time, so that,
over time, some additional divisions are added to the classification etc.
and at some point the classification has to be drastically revised.

But Ernest Mandel also likes to use the concept of veralgemeinte
warenproduktion (generalised commodity production) to describe the
capitalist mode of production. While this formula is useful to describe the
universalisation of market relations, it does not however do real justice to
Marx's contention, stated in the quote I mentioned, that Capitalist
production is not merely the production of commodities, it is ESSENTIALLY
the production of the Mehwert. What is essential for Marx, to be precise,
is the transformation of human work into a value-accretion process, under
conditions where the increment can be privately appropriated by someone
else. So it is not really Marx who has a labour theory of value, it is
rather capitalism itself, which transforms human work into a commercial
value, as Diane Elson pointed out once.

This qualification by Marx which I just stated is also the basis for Tony
Cliff's idea that the USSR must have been state capitalist (a bureaucratic
elite extracting a surplus from production) giving rise to a whole sectarian
or apologetic dispute about the social nature of the USSR which doesn't
really contribute very much to solving the problem of socialist transition
and the emancipation of the working classes, i.e. the transformation of
production and exchange relations to create more freedom and efficiency for
all, on an egalitarian basis (and not just for some). The real problem was,
that the bolsheviks came to power without having a clear understanding about
the socialist transformation of Russian society, and therefore, in many
ways, ended up running roughshod over the workers and peasants. Because of
their sentimental attachment to an ideological doctrine, many Marxists
refuse to understand this, and then you get only apologetics presenting
failures as successes, rather than the development of effective 

U.S.-Andean Free Trade Agreement; intent to initiate negotiations; hearing and comment request,

2004-02-17 Thread Eubulides
[Federal Register: February 17, 2004 (Volume 69, Number 31)]
[Notices]
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Re: military Ricardianism redux - for scholars: a prophetic comment by Karl Marx on destructive forces

2004-02-13 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
As regards military Ricardianism, for those interested in the finer points
of scholarship, here's an 1845-46 comment from Karl Marx on the
transformation of productive forces into destructive forces.

In German, the text is: In der Entwicklung der Produktivkräfte tritt eine
Stufe ein, auf welcher Produktionskräfte und Verkehrsmittel hervorgerufen
werden, welche unter den bestehenden Verhältnissen nur Unheil anrichten,
welche keine Produktionskräfte mehr sind, sondern Destruktionskräfte
(Maschinerie und Geld) - und was damit zusammenhängt, daß eine Klasse
hervorgerufen wird, welche alle Lasten der Gesellschaft zu tragen hat, ohne
ihre Vorteile zu genießen, welche aus der Gesellschaft herausgedrängt, in
den entschiedensten Gegensatz zu allen andern Klassen forciert wird; eine
Klasse, die die Majorität aller Gesellschaftsmitglieder bildet und von der
das Bewußtsein über die Notwendigkeit einer gründlichen Revolution, das
kommunistische Bewußtsein, ausgeht, das sich natürlich auch unter den andern
Klassen vermöge der Anschauung der Stellung dieser Klasse bilden kann.
http://www.ml-werke.de/marxengels/me03_017.htm#I_I_B_3

The English translation of the passage (together with the context preceding
it) is:

How little highly developed productive forces are safe from complete
destruction, given even a relatively very extensive commerce, is proved by
the Phoenicians, whose inventions were for the most part lost for a long
time to come through the ousting of this nation from commerce, its conquest
by Alexander and its consequent decline. Likewise, for instance,
glass-painting in the Middle Ages. Only when commerce has become world
commerce, and has as its basis large-scale industry, when all nations are
drawn into the competitive struggle, is the permanence of the acquired
productive forces assured. (...)
Competition soon compelled every country that wished to retain its
historical role to protect its manufactures by renewed customs regulations
(the old duties were no longer any good against big industry) and soon after
to introduce big industry under protective duties. Big industry
universalised competition in spite of these protective measures (it is
practical free trade; the protective duty is only a palliative, a measure of
defence within free trade), established means of communication and the
modern world market, subordinated trade to itself, transformed all capital
into industrial capital, and thus produced the rapid circulation
(development of the financial system) and the centralisation of capital. By
universal competition it forced all individuals to strain their energy to
the utmost. It destroyed as far as possible ideology, religion, morality,
etc. and where it could not do this, made them into a palpable lie. It
produced world history for the first time, insofar as it made all civilised
nations and every individual member of them dependent for the satisfaction
of their wants on the whole world, thus destroying the former natural
exclusiveness of separate nations. It made natural science subservient to
capital and took from the division of labour the last semblance of its
natural character. It destroyed natural growth in general, as far as this is
possible while labour exists, and resolved all natural relationships into
money relationships. In the place of naturally grown towns it created the
modern, large industrial cities which have sprung up overnight. Wherever it
penetrated, it destroyed the crafts and all earlier stages of industry. It
completed the victory of the commercial town over the countryside. [Its
first premise] was the automatic system. [Its development] produced a mass
of productive forces, for which private [property] became just as much a
fetter as the guild had been for manufacture and the small, rural workshop
for the developing craft. These productive forces received under the system
of private property a one-sided development only, and became for the
majority destructive forces; moreover, a great multitude of such forces
could find no application at all within this system. (...) from the
conception of history we have sketched we obtain these further conclusions:
(1) In the development of productive forces there comes a stage when
productive forces and means of intercourse are brought into being, which,
under the existing relationships, only cause mischief, and are no longer
forces of production but forces of destruction (machinery and money); and
connected with this a class is called forth, which has to bear all the
burdens of society without enjoying its advantages, which, ousted from
society, is forced into the most decided antagonism to all other classes; a
class which forms the majority of all members of society, and from which
emanates the consciousness of the necessity of a fundamental revolution, the
communist consciousness, which may, of course, arise among the other classes
too through the contemplation of the situation of this class. (...) (4) Both
for the production

Estimating the surplus - a comment about the data

2003-12-16 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I wrote previously:

depreciation schedules implemented are crucial for the amount of
distributed and undistributed profits.

Yesterday I was looking at the most recent detailed US IRD and NIPA data,
which I hadn't done before, and I noticed this fact is actually acknowledged
in the NIPA calculation of corporate profit income - thus, gross profits are
adjusted for different methods of depreciation write-offs and the change in
the value of inventory stocks. In this way, a large profit can be shrunk to
a small profit by an economist, to fit his concept of national income. I
mused that it's sad that, given the excellent data sets provided by
organisations such as the US Department of Labour, US Bureau of the Census,
Federal Reserve Board, the National Association of State Budget Officers and
the Bureau of Economic Analysis, so-called Marxists in the USA often make
such very paltry, trivial analyses. Because socialists could make very
powerful political arguments, if they investigated the data, and don't let
an urge for mathematical obscurantism, banale hedonism and theoretical
orthodoxy get in the way - the crimes of the capitalists, if such they be,
are recorded there for all to see. If they uses their brains, instead of
collapsing in a postmodernist stupor.

Just to take a very simple example that's a sign of our times - gross farm
business income in 2002 is said to be $236.9 billion and net farm business
income is said to be only $36.2 billion (direct government support payments
constituted about 17 billion of this net income, i.e. nearly half). Farm
business assets were valued at $1.29 trillion in 2002. Farm debt reached
$201 billion at the end of 2002, and looks to be increasing fast. But just
by examining this data, it's clear the annual gain in farm asset values
actually exceeds the increase in debt levels. Now who exactly is getting
rich out of all this, and who is losing money ? Actually, it turns out that
farm real estate is valued at more than eighty percent of the farm sector's
assets.  In 2001, farm business assets were valued at $1251 billion, of
which physical assets were $998.7 billion in real estate and $193.3 billion
in other physical assets, and $58.9 billion financial assets. It's not just
a game of monopoly or I spy with my little eye here, we're talking about
the lives of around a million wage workers, of which half parttimers, around
a million self-employed workers, and thirty thousand or so unpaid family
workers. Surely there's a good story in that, for the motivated researcher ?
On the surface, the story of America's economy seems to a high drama of
daring financial speculation, but in reality it's more a case of borrow and
hope for some, and grab what I can get for others. Yet the moral ideas
which underly that lifestyle seems to go unquestioned, they aren't
critically examined. We're all supposed to be nice and sexy, and love Unca
Scrooge, is that it ?



Jurriaan


Re: Estimating the surplus - a comment about the data

2003-12-16 Thread dmschanoes
Well yes, there's data and then there's good data and the BEA utilizes
offsets so that changes in depreciation figures triggered by tax credits are
zeroed out of the profit sum.

In addition, the BEA and other sub-groups of the Dept. of Commerce report
corporate profits before and after taxes, with and without capital
consumption and inventory adjustment, so it's possible to get a fairly
accurate picture of the profit trend as well as the profit numbers.

And the US Dept of Agriculture publishes a wealth of data which can be
selected by the user for cross-referencing...

But the capitalist economy has always been smash and grab, borrow and hope,
more or less, more and less.

So?  So this, the critique of capital, its immanent critique is not found in
the moral ideas about lifestyle, but in the conflict between the means
and relations of production -- and that's where the indexes provided by the
BEA show some value.

dms


Re: Estimating the surplus - a comment about the data

2003-12-16 Thread michael
I have not followed agriculture closely since my 1977 book on the subject.
Agricultural statistics must be taken with a grain of salt.  Farmers commonly
will write off expenses, such as gasoline, that can be used for their own
personal consumption.  Also, in many branches of agriculture, farmers are more
like franchisees.  They have contracts to sell, which determine their inputs and
their methods almost as much as a McDonald's franchisee.

Because of the enormous power of the distributors and suppliers of agricultural
inputs, small and midsize farmers are being squeezed. Bankruptcy and debt is
rampant.  Big farmers often profit by farming the government rather than the
soil.  The new book King of California, which I hope to get to soon covers this
very well by telling the story of the Boswell operation in California.
Agricultural subsidies in US are a scandal, but part of the scandal is that the
bulk of the subsidies go to a handful of farmers.  Note to Doug Henwood and
Sacha: the authors of the book would make a good interview.



--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


Rate of profit - comment

2003-11-13 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
It seems to me that a context of rising profits (unless you
believe it is over) will have strategic importance to our assessments of
the medium term directions of the US economy - and the types of challenges
we will face.

As I explained before on PEN-L, Karl Marx believed equilbrium was
established not by supply-demand factors as in bourgeois Harry Potter
economics stories, but by the social relations of production; but production
relations here do not just refer to class relations or private property
relations, but to all kinds of proportionalities in the sphere of
production. The critical variables shaping production relations in Marx's
analysis are S/V, C/V, S/C+V, Cf/Cc, the rotation speed of capital (how fast
you can recoup your investment), the rate of reinvestment of realised
surplus value, the relative accumulation rates in different branches of
production, and so on. Within a stable framework of production relations,
market fluctuations can occur, but those fluctuations do not threaten the
foundations of bourgeois society, and these fluctuations are contained and
limited by production relations.

However, Karl Marx also insisted that capitalist production was the unity
of the production process and the circulation process. Therefore an
analysis of the creation of wealth and the distribution of that wealth
cannot be separated from each other as in Sraffa, and if you do, you still
don't understand anything at all. If you abstract what happens in production
from what happens in circulation, as the Marxist fundamentalists do, you
also go wrong. In other words, you have to look both at the total cost
structure of production (interest rates, credit facilities, debts, currency
values, labour markets, and so on), you have to look as the labour process
itself, and you have to look at the distribution of the new income generated
by the new value product (taxation, income transfers, unequal exchange,
expenditure patterns, the competitive process for the share-out of profits).
When you do so, you realise that if profits rise, this doesn't really mean
much on its own anyway, because then you still do not know the specific mode
of private accumulation of that capital, i.e. how exactly is this new
additional capital invested given current perceptions of risk ? And here a
specific quantitative analysis is essential, especially because in our time
the capitalist crisis is a crisis of excess capital, i.e. the
underutilisation of capital such that the opportunities for making a lot of
money in ordinary production stagnate, there is excess installed
productive capacity, and so on, you face both stagnating profits and
stagnating demand, and the new growth areas are luxury spending, military
production, privatisation/rationalisation, and so on, because that reflects
who has the buying power.

Wolff also concurs with D  L that one major cause of the profit rise was
a shift in shares away from labor and to profit.

This argument is deceptive, precisely because (1) real income of capital
could just rise faster than real income of labour, but what can you deduce
from this ? Not very much at all, because S/V must be related to the
distribution of real income, and (2) Wolff mixes up bourgeois and Marxian
concepts of productivity. Basically Wolff's analysis is just economics, it
has nothing to do with workingclass strategy or with thje transition to
socialism.

Wolff does not find a significant change in the organic composition of
capital for the economy as a whole over the last 50 years (i.e. no rising
rate of OCC; tendency for a falling rate of profit).

This analysis he does has great merit, because it at least begins to
acknowledge the DYNAMIC relationships which Marx intended to reveal with the
concept of the OCC rather than some inevitable law as the fake Marxists
argue. But Wolff is just wrong about the rising rate of the OCC, because
what we need to study is the secular trend in the magnitude of real labour
costs as a proportion of total input costs (intermediate consumption, fixed
capital, levies and payments) and the secular trend in the magnitude of real
labour costs as a proportion of unit output values. Most Marxist and
non-Marxist economists do not understand this at all, because they haven't
got a clue about how a commercial business works.

Wolf has tended more towards finding profit squeeze effects (now capital
squeeze ?) and has tended to discount any tendency towards rising
OCC's\falling rates of profit (that then meet their offsetting tendencies).

If Capital can squeeze Labour, Labour also can squeeze Capital, and
therefore a profit squeeze can empirically occur and there is empirical
evidence for profit squeezes in various West European countries at different
times. But a profit squeeze is extremely rare, because it assumes a balance
of forces very favourable to the working class, and a mode of organisation
which doesn't take away income gains as soon as they are conquered.

I have trouble 

170 billion crimes per year ? - additional comment

2003-11-03 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I wrote:

By multiplying my 1:29 ratio by the world population, I arrive at the
estimate that the total number of crime victim reports in 1997 in the whole
world must have been 170 billion in round figures. Just imagine that eh. 170
billion crimes a year in the whole world. Hell, crime is as common as a
packet of Malboro's.

In case you didn't get it, one ought not to multiply the total number of the
world population by 29, but divide total by 29, and then you arrive at a
figure of 200 million crime victim reports in the world for 1997. Still,
crime is as common as a packet of Malboro's.

J.


Re: Paul Krugman on GDP surge - additional comment

2003-10-31 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Thanks.

 An odd feature of the U.S. housing boom is that the rental index
 hasn't gone up all that much - $46b gain between 2000 and 2001
 (latest available). The annual GDP tables have data on imputations -
 specifically 8.21, at

http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/nipaweb/TableViewFixed.asp?SelectedTable=185Firs
tYear=1996LastYear=2001Freq=Year.

The UNSNA calculation is a bit different from the BEA calculation. But
anyhow the majority of the large quarterly real GDP increase of over 7
percent seems to be due to purchases goods, namely offices and office
equipment, purchases of newly built houses, purchases of motor vehicles and
motor vehicle repairs, increased food consumption, and increased expenditure
on medical supplies. Many inventory levels actually dropped because of the
existing underutilisation of a quarter of installed productive capacity.
See BEA Table 8.2 at:

http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/nipaweb/TableViewFixed.asp?SelectedTable=165First
Year=2002LastYear=2003Freq=Qtr

You can sort of imagine Bush saying, now look at this, wouldn't you like
Iraq to have all this wonderful wealth as well - and they could have it,
with American help. But before we get too impressed with this, we ought to
establish exactly who is partaking of all this this wonderful new wealth
within the USA, and that is the analytical challenge for socialists.

What would be the average figures ? An average American worker would earn
about US$ 54,000 gross, pay about $9700 tax, providing a take-home pay of
$44,000.  The total net value of family household assets would be about
$42,000. According to some sources though, the real disposable income (net
pay plus other sources of personal income such as investments) of the
average American worker would now be as high as $50,000, suggesting about
$6,000 personal non-wage income. His average total debt service ratio at the
moment would be 18 percent, if he owned a home it would be 14 percent and if
he rented an apartment it would be 29 percent. So he would be paying off an
average of just under $8000 in debts per year, and if he he owned a home it
would be just over $6000 and if he was renting it would be just under
$13,000. About three quarters of white workers own a home and about half of
Asian, Hispanic and black workers don't own a home. The average personal
savings rate would be 3.2 percent so the average worker would save
$1400-$1600 per year. Of the average worker's consumer expenditure, under 60
percent would be non-retail, and over 40 percent retail. Out of total
household consumption per person, the basic structure is as follows: the big
items are transportation bills (about 20 percent), rent or mortgage (about
18 percent), food and beverages purchases (about 17 percent), gas,
electricity and water bills (8 percent) health care (6 percent), clothes
purchases (6 percent), entertainment purchases (5 percent), furnishings and
equipment purchases (4 percent).

Okay, but now consider this. 1 in 5 American workers lost a job during the
last three years. Two thirds of Americans say their biggest worry today is
whether or not they will have a job tomorrow. Two-thirds of laid-off workers
received less than 2 weeks notice and no severance pay. Three-fourths of
American workers did not maintain any health benefits. A third of these
workers are now underemployed. Approximately 1 out of every 100 mortgages in
America is currently in foreclosure, and 1 in every 5 American mortgages is
more than 30 days late. 3.3 million jobs are expected to be outsourced to
India and China over the next few years. . The poverty rate was about 12.1
percent in 2002. The number of poor is 35 million, one in eight Americans is
officially defined as poor.

Jurriaan


Terms of exchange - additional comment on lie-ability, especially for Comrade Sabri

2003-10-12 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
In my previous post on Marxmail I left out one important point. This point
is, that in accounting for Iraq ONLY on the basis of assets and liabilities,
which is the Colin Powell argument, it is important to understand the
effects of revaluing assets in the account.

The christian fundamentalist balance sheet equation formally followed in the
West is, as we know:

assets = liabilities + net worth, where

A liability is defined as a financial obligation, debt, claim, or potential
loss.

An asset is defined as any item of economic value owned by an individual or
organisation, convertible into cash.

Net worth is defined as total assets minus total liabilities of an
individual or company (for a company, this is also called owner's equity or
shareholders' equity or net assets).

Suppose now that assets are revalued, so that the value of the assets
becomes greater. In that case, net worth will increase. But not only that,
because the relationship between assets and liabilities changes as well, and
on that basis, we can incur new liabilities and increase liabilities.

But, now suppose that liabilities are revalued, so that the value of
liabilities becomes smaller. You guessed it, net worth will also increase.
But not only that, because the relationship between liabilities and assets
changes as well, and on that basis, we the assets actually increase in value
if they are tradeables.

For this, we get a christian fundamentalist imperative for the accumulation
of capital:

1) The value of assets must be raised, and the value of liabilities must be
reduced
2) The value of assets must be not be reduced, and the value of liabilities
must not be increased

But suppose that we can change the meaning of assets and liabilities. In
that case, a liability might become an asset !

So you see, it is all in the way you look at what is an asset and what is a
liability. You have to BELIEVE.

Jurriaan


Jesus and the Rolex: additional explanatory comment

2003-10-05 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Carl Jung has some advice for our troubled times, which consists in
spiritual reform, in other words, the oppressed of this earth need a good
dose of spirituality for their salvation. Thus, he said in the wake of the
second world war:

Everything possible has been done for the outside world: science has been
refined to an unimaginable extent, technical achievement has reached an
almost uncanny degree of perfection. But what of man, who is expected to
administer all these blessings in a reasonable way? He has simply been taken
for granted. No one has stopped to consider that neither morally nor
psychologically is he in any way adapted to such changes. As blithely as any
child of nature he sets about enjoying these dangerous playthings,
completely oblivious of the shadow lurking behind him, ready to seize them
in its greedy grasp and turn them against a still infantile and unconscious
humanity. (...) The question remains: How am I to live with this shadow?
What attitude is required if I am to be able to live in spite of evil? In
order to find valid answers to these questions a complete spiritual renewal
is needed. And this cannot be given gratis, each man must strive to achieve
it for himself. Neither can old formulas which once had a value be brought
into force again. The eternal truths cannot be transmitted mechanically; in
every epoch they must be born anew from the human psyche. Source:
http://www.cgjungpage.org/articles/wishardhist.html

Notice the completely tautological reasoning in Jung's argument: human
beings have to change, but, it is not explained HOW they should change,
everyone has to do that for themselves, he says, and therefore, you cannot
say anything more about that. Of course that is true, but then we have
neatly abstracted from humans as social, cooperative beings, from social
change, for social practice, from technology and science, from political
power, and we wind up saying that eternal truths must be re-implemented in
specific contexts. And of course eternal truths are only as good as the
skills of the researcher who claims to discover them. As for myself, I would
not trust Jung for a cent in that respect, and indeed I would reject eternal
truths in favour of time-bound truths. The point is rather that in our
search for eternal truths, we end up with a hypostatis in the present, we
eternalise what exists now, the status quo, and we are effectively back to
the feudal dispute between Galileo and the church. We can, of course toss
around clever analogies and symbols endlessly, but that just distracts from
the real problems. And that is WHY those analogies and symbols get tossed
around by the ideologues. But that just makes problems even worse, because
we end up not knowing what to focus on anymore. In case you didn't know,
Carl Jung had a flirtation with the Nazis, although he refused to
psychoanalyse Hitler when asked. Here you had an expert on the human soul,
who neither clearly foresaw and analysed the Nazi phenomenon beyond a dim
realisation something was going wrong, did not fight it actively, and did
not realise that world war 2 would produce more psychological problems and
psychiatric cases than existed ever before. That is really interesting,
because that means that someone could in principle help a few hundred
patients in therapy, being only vaguely aware that social, political and
economic events could create millions of nutcases in the future. And then
you get these people who prattle that a social science is impossible, only
a social engineering. Whereas, if that was really true, we would need to
invent such a science ! As regards the currently favourite expert in
America - when the Republican candidates were asked to name their favorite
political philosophers, Mr. George W. Bush replied: 'Christ, because he
changed my heart.' Asked to elaborate, he said: 'Well, if they don't know,
it's going to be hard to explain'. 'When you turn your heart and your life
over to Christ, when you accept Christ as the Savior, it changes your heart.
It changes your life. And that's what happened to me.' In other words, you
can be President of the United States of America without having to explain
yourself. I guess that, once again, we will have to wait for the memoirs,
i.e, the explanation of why we were correct is projected into the future. I
have Hilary Clinton's memoirs here, actually, and the title of the second to
last chapter sums up the end of all bourgeois wisdom: DARE TO COMPETE. As
for me, I'm off to have a shave. And for some old wine in a new bottle, if
only I had some.

Jurriaan


Sociological comment on equilibrium: the ledger concept

2003-09-22 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
When we probe the concept of economic equilibrium in bourgeois economic
theory deeply, I think we actually have the conclude that all bourgeois
theories of equilibrium reduce finally to a company balance sheet that is
in the black, rather than in the red as they say (in the blue would
really be a better term).

In other words, the bourgeois idea of equilibrium is, in the last analysis,
a question of debits and credits, profits and losses, costs and revenues,
outlays and income. Ideas of economic balancing are materialistically and
objectively rooted in the idea that things are in balance when costs,
sales and revenues are in balance, and I think careful historical,
anthropological and etymological research will demonstrate the same thing.

What this ledger concept involves, is the extrapolation of a micro-economic
accounting practice to the economy as a whole, and the translation of a
commercial idea into a whole social vision, a perspective on society and the
world as a whole (as Marx frequently implied, people's social visions tend
to be related to their own position in the division of labour).

When I discussed the vaguely articulated bourgeois concept of social
stability, I did not sufficiently clearly express this point, but it is
important, because it means that the concept of a social (societal)
equilibrium can never be theorised consistently by bourgeois theory in any
other way than either in price-theoretical terms, or in terms of social
institutions which already exist (the family, the state, the school, the
church and so on - see Talcott Parsons), or in terms of psychological or
physiological health. In the case of social institutions, however, the
explanation is as tautological as the explanation of economic equilibrium
(which assumed that markets are the means by which demand and supply are
balanced, rather than explaining the balance), because institutions are
inherently conservative. In other words, what we mean by an institution is a
stable and continuous form of social organisation which helps reproduce the
conditions of its own existence, and which exists as a barrier to
discontinuities created by social change. If we say that institutions
provide equilibrium, all we are really saying is that they conserve the
status quo, maintain it, and reproduce it, that they provide social
continuity.

In discussing the problems of social order and social change, Prof. Perry
Anderson explains in his book Arguments within English Marxism (Verso
Press) why the concepts of mode production, productive forces and relations
of production which Marx provided in his materialist vision of historical
development are so important to understand the problem of social order and
social change. Because, they enable us to specify more closely what exactly
a social equilibrium means, and what a disequilibrium means, and how,
through a process of social change, society might move from one sort of
equilibrium to a new sort of equilibrium.

So anyway the point I am trying to emphasise is that for Marx's historical
materialism, equilibrium doesn't consist in economics or is not itself
constituted by the economy, and if we try to reduce the problem of
equilibrium to economic equilibrium, then we fall under the sway of the
bourgeois ledger concept of equilibrium.

None of this denies the crucial importance of micro-economic and
macro-economic accounting as tools for understanding social equilibrium, for
tracking economic developments and as a necessary means for a responsible,
fair and just allocation of resources. Any bona fide socialist would
acknowledges this, and socialism is impossible without those bourgeois
intellectual achievements.  It is just saying, that we shouldn't project our
accounting concept on socio-economic reality, and believe that thereby, or
through the prism of that concept, we have understood the problem of
societal equilibrium.

That is the real reason why from a Marxian point of view the obsession
with GDP and so on is wrong, and not because it fetishizes economic
growth. The people who make arguments about economic growth fetishism are
suddenly very silent when they are made unemployed (I vividly recall how the
New Zealand Values Party, the first Green Party in the world, advocated zero
growth, but when zero-growth was achieved in New Zealand at the end of the
1970s, they were nop longer advocating it and the party fell apart, because
most people were afraid of unemployment, and the Greens had nothing much to
say about it).

In this respect, the Marxian argument is different: it is saying that
because of economic competition, structurally rooted in private enterprise,
it is in the last instance impossible for capitalism to exist in any other
way than through economic growth, accumulation must occur, and if this
growth happens to stagnate, then accumulation will continue to occur by one
group in society at the expense of another group in society. That is just
exactly what has been happening since 

New voices on PEN-L - brief comment for Sabri

2003-08-31 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Sabri,

I think you raise a jolly good question. My experience with these things is
that clearly conveying a sense of purpose is important, which has two parts,
being clear about the aim of the list, and then conveying that clearly to
users, so they know what it is for and what it is not for. Apart from that,
you investigate how the list is actually utilised, what people actually do
get out of it (is it a resource ? is it provocative ? is it stiimulating ?
etc.), what their impression is (if you want to get really thorough about
this, you can of course do a quick survey). If you want to pick up new
subscribers or get into new discussions, you may need to shift your
objectives, or rethink your themes (what can we talk about/what should we
talk about). I have some other stuff to do now, and cannot write much more
anyway, maybe if I exit, this makes room for others to enter.

(As regards Ellen Wood, I am personally not anti-Wood, she is a socialist,
and I think she does a lot of important and very good work defending Marx's
historical approach and providing heuristics for budding scholars and
activists. I just find that a lot of writing about empire and
imperialism these days combines references to empirical/historical
reality with literary metaphor, as a sort of response to postmodernist
reflexivity, in order to provide an intellectually and artistically
satisfying presentation -which is more scholastic than tied to any political
project or economic/cultural reality or experience; and then the motives for
imperialism research become somewhat hazy, and the monstrous effects of
imperialism appear in a footnote. For the rest of it, I have not read Wood's
book, and therefore cannot comment on its merits).

You may find this quote by Robert Kennedy interesting, both for the sense in
which it is false, and the sense in which it says something true: What is
objectionable, what is dangerous, about extremists is not that they are
extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about
their cause, but what they say about their opponents. These days of course,
the Right is in practice far more extreme than the Left, but it is just
Kennedy's thought, you may wish to consider.

Idealistic people often project an imagined, wished-for solidarity with
other people, which doesn't appear to exist in reality when an attempt is
made to establish it practically, as I discovered through great personal
disappointment and in making my own mistakes in reaching out to others.
People mainly want to know what you know or what your experience is, and
then move on. My own heterodox socialist interests actually deviate from 99
percent of the Left that I know, in methods, concepts, personalities and
language, but I have never found a group yet where I feel at home in that
sense. That's also why I felt interpellated by your remarks just now.

Best,

J.


Excessive posting: Carrol's comment

2003-08-29 Thread Michael Perelman
I have to agree.  The most common complaint about the list is the
excessive amount of material.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:35:17PM -0500, Carrol Cox wrote:
 Jurriaan -- you are writing too much. I have to skip all of them because
 I don't have the time to select the ones which it would be worthwhile to
 read.

 Carrol

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Dutch Economy out of Step: brief comment

2003-08-21 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Tuesday, 19 August, 2003

Dutch economy out of step

by RN Economics editor Wendy Braanker, 18 August 2003

The Dutch economy has shrunk by nearly a full percentage point in this
year's second quarter. The figure is higher than many analysts had expected.
They put it down to declines in household consumption. With the economy
stuck in the doldrums, consumers are keeping their hands on the purse
strings.

The Netherlands finds itself quite out of step when it comes to economic
developments in Europe. Of course, the current malaise and its impact on
world trade also affect other countries. The effects of the pneumonia-type
SARS epidemic and the war in Iraq have been felt across the globe in the
second quarter of this year. The Netherlands is certainly no exception. What
is different is a more than average slump in consumer spending combined with
a rigorous retrenchment package put forward by the new centre-right
government.

It's what sets the Dutch economy quite apart from other European countries.
Here, the government is making great haste trying to put its financial house
in order. When it comes to tax revenue, the Finance Ministry has reported
one setback after another. All those problems will be dealt with as soon as
possible, says Finance Minister Gerrit Zalm. But this means that the
government will spend considerably less next year. And that the purchasing
power of the average consumer will go down. We're in for tax hikes and lower
social benefits, and that explains why the Netherlands is currently lagging
behind the rest of Europe.

Economy overheated

Unlike consumption and foreign trade, government expenditure still made a
positive contribution to the Dutch economy in this year's second quarter.
But those days seem to be over now that the government has to tackle the
increasing number of setbacks.

Fortis bank forecasts that the Dutch economy will contract by half of one
percent this year, compared to half of one percent average growth throughout
Europe. The figures show that the Dutch government's austerity policies are
having a negative impact on economic performance. Besides, consumers are
unlikely to change their spending pattern as long as the economy falters and
unemployment numbers rise.

Paying a price for the boom years

However, the current contraction is partly caused by past developments: the
Netherlands recorded excessive growth figures in the 1990s. Aline Schuiling
says the economy simply overheated, with all its consequences.

In the latter half of the 1990s, the Dutch economy grew at a faster than
manageable rate. That led to serious bottlenecks on the job market, rising
inflation and increased wage demands. As a result of higher wages, the
labour market is currently in a pretty poor state in this country, with
unemployment going up sharply. Partly, this should be seen as the price we
now have to pay for high growth in the second part of the previous decade.

In that period, the Dutch economy recorded four or more percent economic
growths for several consecutive years, outperforming its partners in the
euro zone. Now, the tide has definitely turned.

From: http://www.rnw.nl/hotspots/html/dut030818.html


comment

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Scanlan
A friend writes from Albuquerque NM..

Dan:

Clearly the rules for everything are changing and I don't see a way 
back, for principles of any kind. Leaders have re-defined what the 
traffic will bear. I feel so overwhelmed by the scope of it, stymied, 
stupid, and spread out on a sheer rock face with nothing to grab to 
change the predicament.

Americans, either ignorant of their own narrowness of viewpoint or 
jingoistically on board with any ass-kicking agenda that comes along, 
want to think they're getting straight stuff from their press. Local 
press, like their parent networks, are desperate not only to report 
support, but to make us all feel good and righteous about it (or 
shamed without it), as if unanimity equals virtue and that there's 
inherent glory in any aggression we perpetrate. The peace movement 
wants to feel good too, but the military is carpet bombing the moral 
high ground.

I am simply distraught at the absence of debate, that an initiative 
of so little merit and such stupendous impact was rammed into place 
and cannot be turned around. Whatever occurs, we've already claimed 
victory and W eagerly awaits his iconic status. Will we even have an 
election in 2004, or shall there be continuity by acclamation 
(martial law) to assure homeland security? Bush has guaranteed this 
will become an ever more dangerous place to live. As I look at the 
paralysis of Congress, I begin truly to grieve the end of democracy 
as we knew it, and the loss of my country. How does the overt 
mendacity of this administration prevail? I am fearful that the 
citizenry is not up to this battle, because I've seen its weaknesses 
in the mirror.

Re Arnett: I think there's got to be a dilemma for him between doing 
the expected award winning reportage from his head (laying out the 
facts he can collect, connecting the dots with his informed 
perspective, sending them to headquarters) and doing the right 
thing from his heart (framing his facts and applying his perspective 
free of the known biases of his employer). He is not alone. It's 
indicative of the collective chaos of this war -- frankly of any war 
-- that a news consumer has to sort among biases. The rule arrogantly 
prescribed for the whole world is you're either with us or against 
us. Therefore us is a monolith, and not in our name is denied 
relevance. So now, hopelessly labelled as an anti-war sympathizer, 
Arnett will ply his wares with heightened credibility at the Mirror 
and tainted or no credibility on the coalition side. The US wins, 
since his exposure here will be limited to those who make the extra 
effort to find alternative coverage. I would like to cut Arnett some 
slack, but he has marginalized himself more effectively than higher 
powers could have. But his next book should be interesting.

--Pat



Bush - Hitler Comment

2002-09-26 Thread Lisa Stolarski

Question:

How relevant do you all think the Bush-Hitler comment was?  I think that
German Chancellor was right on...the war on Iraq is a strategically timed
diversion from an ailing economy prior to an important election.  Hitler was
known for employing political diversions.  Considering Saddam has been doing
what he is doing for several years it makes sense that Bush and the
republicans would want to exploit this issue for the benefit of the
election.  

Can anybody give me a synopsis of the German economy prior to the invasion
of the Sudatenland?  I know it was bad and there was a huge war debt being
paid by the German people.  How did their economy then compare or contrast
with our economy now? I think it is telling that the Germans might try to
warn of us fascist or protofascist tactics used by the Bush administration.
Who would know better the seductive appeal of fascist rhetoric?  Logged on
to a site which displays old German propoganda, their version of the
invasion of the Sudatenland seems pretty reasonable.  The Nazis, after all,
declared they were liberating oppressed German people in Austria.
Interestingly, Britain and France went along on the first conquest--they
were willing to give up the Sudatenland to avoid stepping to the Germans and
only opposed Hitler when he moved on Poland.

Also, did any of you read about Bush's family's assets being frozen in 42
because they were trading with the enemy?  Also, do any of you know anything
about alleged Nazis coming to the US and joining the Republican Party in the
late 40s and early 50s?  I had checked this out some time ago and the
sources seemed to be coming from a major French paper but I can't remember
the name of it.  

I found several references to the Moussolini quote on the net but never did
find the source.  Still looking.  Someone asked for the source of Fascism
should rightly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and
corporate power. If it is out there, eventually I will find it.

Lisa S. 




Big Income Gains? Comment?

2002-08-02 Thread pms

Friday August 2, 9:11 am Eastern Time
Reuters Business Report
Consumer Spending Up on Big Income Gain

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. consumer spending rose solidly in June as income
advanced at the fastest pace in nearly two years on the back of big pay
gains, helping cash registers ring out the second quarter on an upbeat note,
the government said on Friday.
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Consumer spending rose 0.5 percent in June after holding steady in May, the
Commerce Department said. Spending in May had originally been reported as
down 0.1 percent.

Personal income in June increased 0.6 percent, its biggest advance since a
matching rise in July 2000. The June income gain followed a 0.4 percent May
rise, a tick stronger than originally reported.

The report was just a hair off Wall Street expectations.

Behind the strong rise in income was a 0.6 percent increase in wages and
salaries -- the largest income component. It was the strongest pay
performance since an identical increase in January 2001.

Disposable income, the amount left after taxes, gained a solid 0.7 percent.
That helped the saving rate rise to 4.2 percent from May's 4.1 percent,
despite the increase in spending.

Economists have said solid income gains should help support spending, even
in the face of the brutal stock market decline. Still, the report offered
little new information on the economy as the data had already been
incorporated in the second-quarter economic growth report released on
Wednesday.

U.S. gross domestic product advanced at a meager 1.1 percent annual rate in
the April-June period, with consumer spending up at a 1.9 percent pace.

In addition, investors were glued on Friday to the July employment report
from the Labor Department, which showed a paltry gain of 6,000 jobs outside
the farm sector -- fueling further fears of renewed economic weakness.

Friday's income and spending report showed the rise in spending in June was
concentrated on durable goods -- items intended to last three years or more.

Durable goods spending rose 1.6 percent, after a 2.6 percent drop in May.
Spending on nondurable goods was up 0.4 percent, while outlays on services
rose 0.3 percent.

The report showed inflation well contained with the price index for personal
spending up a mild 0.1 percent, both overall and when volatile food and
energy prices are excluded.

Economists say continued tame inflation provides scope for the Federal
Reserve to hold interest rates steady for a prolonged period, or even cut
them further if needed, to ensure the economic recovery does not stall.





RE: Big Income Gains? Comment?

2002-08-02 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29042] Big Income Gains?  Comment?





short comment: (1) it's a mistake to rely on one month's statistics to judge what's happening, especially when a lot of the other statistics (such as July's employment report) are not looking very good; (2) one thing that happens in a recession is that the last fired, first fired phenomenon, which tends to raise the average wage, since those with more senority are paid more. 

The rise in the saving rate is a bad sign during a recession, though it may not be large enough to have any effect. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



 -Original Message-
 From: pms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PEN-L:29042] Big Income Gains? Comment?
 
 
 Friday August 2, 9:11 am Eastern Time
 Reuters Business Report
 Consumer Spending Up on Big Income Gain
 
 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. consumer spending rose solidly in 
 June as income
 advanced at the fastest pace in nearly two years on the back 
 of big pay
 gains, helping cash registers ring out the second quarter on 
 an upbeat note,
 the government said on Friday.
 ADVERTISEMENT
 
 
 
 Consumer spending rose 0.5 percent in June after holding 
 steady in May, the
 Commerce Department said. Spending in May had originally been 
 reported as
 down 0.1 percent.
 
 Personal income in June increased 0.6 percent, its biggest 
 advance since a
 matching rise in July 2000. The June income gain followed a 
 0.4 percent May
 rise, a tick stronger than originally reported.
 
 The report was just a hair off Wall Street expectations.
 
 Behind the strong rise in income was a 0.6 percent increase 
 in wages and
 salaries -- the largest income component. It was the strongest pay
 performance since an identical increase in January 2001.
 
 Disposable income, the amount left after taxes, gained a 
 solid 0.7 percent.
 That helped the saving rate rise to 4.2 percent from May's 
 4.1 percent,
 despite the increase in spending.
 
 Economists have said solid income gains should help support 
 spending, even
 in the face of the brutal stock market decline. Still, the 
 report offered
 little new information on the economy as the data had already been
 incorporated in the second-quarter economic growth report released on
 Wednesday.
 
 U.S. gross domestic product advanced at a meager 1.1 percent 
 annual rate in
 the April-June period, with consumer spending up at a 1.9 
 percent pace.
 
 In addition, investors were glued on Friday to the July 
 employment report
 from the Labor Department, which showed a paltry gain of 
 6,000 jobs outside
 the farm sector -- fueling further fears of renewed economic weakness.
 
 Friday's income and spending report showed the rise in 
 spending in June was
 concentrated on durable goods -- items intended to last three 
 years or more.
 
 Durable goods spending rose 1.6 percent, after a 2.6 percent 
 drop in May.
 Spending on nondurable goods was up 0.4 percent, while 
 outlays on services
 rose 0.3 percent.
 
 The report showed inflation well contained with the price 
 index for personal
 spending up a mild 0.1 percent, both overall and when 
 volatile food and
 energy prices are excluded.
 
 Economists say continued tame inflation provides scope for the Federal
 Reserve to hold interest rates steady for a prolonged period, 
 or even cut
 them further if needed, to ensure the economic recovery does 
 not stall.
 
 





Re: RE: Big Income Gains? Comment?

2002-08-02 Thread pms
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29042] Big Income Gains? Comment?



Right. I didn't think it was a good 
thing. Small fodder for the perma-bulls maybe. I thought it was 
interesting, and probably tied up with the factor you mention, that the rise in 
after-tax income was higher than the general rise in income. Or maybe it 
has to do with benies? The spin is hot and heavy in McMarketville, believe 
me. BTW, Goldman just came out and predicted a .75 rate cut this year, 
even though they highly doubt the double-dip story and they're sure the Fed does 
too. Really. They said that! Coincidently, Corning is floating 
a convertible(mandatory) 7% for half a bil.They will use 105mil to buy 
Treasuries to use as collateral. Also pay off long-term 4% debt. 
Doesn't that sound like a good deal? I gotta wonder who's aggressively 
sneaking out of this bond market. Or if the announcement will soothe any 
GLW debt buyers who wondered if Treasuries bought in this toppy market are 
really good colateral?

ps. pls keep in mind that I KNOW I don't 
understand this stuff just sorta picking up cultural echos in McMarketville and 
hoping for guidence for my brain roads

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Devine, James 

  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:23 
  PM
  Subject: [PEN-L:29044] RE: Big Income 
  Gains? Comment?
  
  short comment: (1) it's a mistake to rely on one month's 
  statistics to judge what's happening, especially when a lot of the other 
  statistics (such as July's employment report) are not looking very good; (2) 
  one thing that happens in a recession is that the "last fired, first fired" 
  phenomenon, which tends to raise the average wage, since those with more 
  senority are paid more. 
  The rise in the saving rate is a bad sign during a recession, 
  though it may not be large enough to have any effect. 
  Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine 
   Behind the strong rise in income was a 0.6 percent 
  increase  in wages and  salaries -- the largest income component. It was the strongest 
  pay  performance since an identical increase in 
  January 2001.   
  Disposable income, the amount left after taxes, gained a  solid 0.7 percent.  That helped the 
  saving rate rise to 4.2 percent from May's  4.1 
  percent,  despite the increase in spending. 




UK Business comment on Brown

2002-07-16 Thread Chris Burford


Digby Jones, the CBI's [Confederation of British Industry] director general 
said: The chancellor has rightly invested in the future productivity of 
British business with funds for education and transport. But we must not 
waste this historic opportunity to reform public services. The devil as 
always will be in the detail, which we will study carefully.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/economics/story/0,11268,756109,00.html




Stiglitz/ Comment from Rudy Fichtenbaum:

2001-12-04 Thread Charles Brown

Stiglitz/ Comment from Rudy Fichtenbaum:
by Stephen E Philion
29 November 2001 22:20 UTC  

When I was in China, the  Marxist economist (and  translator of the
nefarious  Henwood's book Wall Street I might add) Han Deqiang used quote
after quote from Stiglitz in speeches he gave to university audiences to
debunk the adoration of the WTO in Chinese academia. There was another
person he used very effectively, Bill Clinton! He would end his lectures
with a quote from Clinton in a speech to  congress advising quick passage
of the China's entry to WTO based on the one sided character of
sacrafices called for in the deal, i.e.  only China would have to make
significant decreases in tarrifs, etc.
Han, btw, is really the closest thing China has to a Noam Chomsky. He goes
around to campuses and delivers lectures that simply use the words of
mainstream economists against the mythologies of neo-liberalism...



CB: From Ricardo something was gotten for the fight. Marx quotes Benjamin Franklin 
favoably in _Capital_. From the bourgeois economist Hobson and others like, Lenin 
culled the kernel of his concept of imperialism. From whathisname came creative 
destruction. From Eisenhower, who must have known military Keynesianism, the left got 
the concept of the military-industrial complex.

If Stiglitz wants to show out , lets not leave him hanging.




RE: Stiglitz/ Comment from Rudy Fichtenbaum:

2001-12-04 Thread Devine, James

CB: From Ricardo something was gotten for the fight. Marx quotes Benjamin
Franklin favoably in _Capital_. From the bourgeois economist Hobson and
others like, Lenin culled the kernel of his concept of imperialism. From
whathisname came creative destruction. From Eisenhower, who must have
known military Keynesianism, the left got the concept of the
military-industrial complex.

right. The Akerlof/Stiglitz business about asymmetric information might be
seen as trivial by some, but it is a part of real-world markets and
shouldn't be ignored. Instead, such sophisticated neoclassical notions
should be integrated within the totality of an alternative perspective.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine Segui il
tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti. (Go your own way and let people talk.) --
K. Marx, paraphrasing Dante A.


 




Comment from Rudy Fichtenbaum:

2001-11-29 Thread Charles Brown

Comment from Rudy Fichtenbaum:

I just skimmed over the article outlining Stigliz and Krugman's
critiques.  Considering the fact that they are not Marxists I think
their criticisms are pretty significant.  I think that on one level it
is probably worth supporting them because people will actually listen to
what Stigliz has to say since he is a nobel prize winner.  This gives us
an opportunity to influence a lot of people including a number of
mainstream economists.  This doesn't mean we should accept their
analysis uncritically.  Where it is appropriate we can debate and
criticise but at the same time support the statements that they make
that we agree with.




Re: Comment from Rudy Fichtenbaum:

2001-11-29 Thread Stephen E Philion

When I was in China, the  Marxist economist (and  translator of the
nefarious  Henwood's book Wall Street I might add) Han Deqiang used quote
after quote from Stiglitz in speeches he gave to university audiences to
debunk the adoration of the WTO in Chinese academia. There was another
person he used very effectively, Bill Clinton! He would end his lectures
with a quote from Clinton in a speech to  congress advising quick passage
of the China's entry to WTO based on the one sided character of
sacrafices called for in the deal, i.e.  only China would have to make
significant decreases in tarrifs, etc.
Han, btw, is really the closest thing China has to a Noam Chomsky. He goes
around to campuses and delivers lectures that simply use the words of
mainstream economists against the mythologies of neo-liberalism...

Steve

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Charles Brown wrote:

 Comment from Rudy Fichtenbaum:

 I just skimmed over the article outlining Stigliz and Krugman's
 critiques.  Considering the fact that they are not Marxists I think
 their criticisms are pretty significant.  I think that on one level it
 is probably worth supporting them because people will actually listen to
 what Stigliz has to say since he is a nobel prize winner.  This gives us
 an opportunity to influence a lot of people including a number of
 mainstream economists.  This doesn't mean we should accept their
 analysis uncritically.  Where it is appropriate we can debate and
 criticise but at the same time support the statements that they make
 that we agree with.






Personal comment on HM, E, and H

2001-10-28 Thread Chris Burford

Personal comments on the Historical Materialism meeting with Hardt Friday 
26th October

In words and gestures Hardt received respect from Historical Materialism, 
Callinicos and Bromley, althought it was not without significant 
differences which they shared as part of the deal implicit in the evening.

An intriguing, puzzling, and thought-promoting meeting perhaps on several 
levels.

One was style: Hardt through protestations of modesty is skillful in 
disarming confrontation and finding points of collaboration and dialogue. 
Linked with this is to throw in a vaiety of suggestions and associated 
ideas that catch the curiosity of opponent and sympathiser alike.

While this style could be o cover for complete opportunism, I was 
interested that his critical discussants had nothing to say to my assertion 
that the handling of the polemic between Lenin, Kautsky and Hilferding on 
ultra-imperialism was careful and thorough.

Hardt was clearly wanting to avoid any direct and immediate prescriptions 
for political action, unlike many of the supporters of the SWP (UK)

Callinicos seemed to me to be much better than his supporters. He was 
genuinely able to recognise that Hardt was promoting rather more a 
philosphical approach which could have implications for struggle, even if 
in C's opinion they were erroneous ones.

Some of Hardt's approach seemed to me essentially to be a realist one which 
entailed contradictions (although he did not use the term contradictions) 
be contrast the audience seemed to be thinking on another level, of polical 
action, or at least gesture, in which the world was always divided into 
enemies and friends.

While Bromley and Callinicos were much more willing to engage in the 
theoretical questions that Hardt posed, I think that is probably their 
position too.

Despite superficial appearances I suspect that Hardt's perspective on 
imperialism and Empire is more grounded in material reality of the means of 
production, than the political and economic analyses of Callinicos and 
Bromley. That is a hunch.

Both C and H are interested in the global movement that had emerged. I was 
puzzled by C's emphasis on inter-imperialist rivalry, which does not seem 
to be an issue on which the strategic orientation of E hangs or falls. 
Unless, it occurs to me, this is sort of code for C and the SWP arguing 
that the target of progressive world struggles should be US imperialism.

It may therefore be signficant that Hardt did not discuss this at all - 
suggesting it remains an area of difference for him from the evening. He 
presented none of the arguments on the level of formation of political 
struggles, that IMO could be presented for this approach.

For such a philosophical book, both about the shifts in ideas around the 
emergence and over-ripeness of the capitalist nation state, and which is I 
suggest essentially a realist, not an empirical book, nor a politcal 
programme, it was surprising to feel there was fundamentally some link with 
the fine grain of Hardt's practice, which could be seen in the meeting.


Indeed Hardt radiated an amiable optimism throughout the meeting, mitigated 
by disarming gesutres of personal modesty.

Perhaps it could be put most coherently that it is a belief in the 
creativity of human cooperation, which ultimately must be the anser to an 
economic system based on the private ownership of social economic processes.

My impression was that Empire, now available in London too in paperback, 
will continue to attract readers through sympathetic curiosity, and help to 
fertilise a new range of political struggles but in an indirect way.

Historical Materialism suggested they might hold some seminars on the 
themes. Whether they have a lightness of being remains to be seen.

Chris Burford

London




Late comment on Mexican truck controversy

2001-08-06 Thread Charles Brown



Washington Post
August 2, 2001

The Democrats' Mexican Roadblock

By Ruben Navarrette Jr.
 
-clip-
 Not to be outdone, the Senate yesterday approved legislation that would impose 
strict safety and insurance requirements on Mexican trucks bound for U.S. highways -- 
22 more than are required of American or Canadian counterparts, critics contend. And 
this could set off a trade war.

(((

Charles Brown: 

Could this really start a trade war ?

Might such trade war be a good thing if it led to the destruction of NAFTA ?



Whole article follows

Washington Post
August 2, 2001

The Democrats' Mexican Roadblock

By Ruben Navarrette Jr.
 
When the House of Representatives voted to ban Mexican trucks from traveling more 
than 20 miles north of the U.S. border, I was in Mexico. But now that the Senate is 
putting up its own roadblock, I feel like I'm on Mars.
Suddenly, it is the Democrats who -- as Republicans are prone to do with regard 
to immigration and English-only laws -- are advancing their own interests by 
sounding racist notions of Mexican inferiority. Suddenly, it is the Republicans 
who defend the disparaged by calling discrimination by its proper name -- as 
Democrats delight in doing when the issue at hand is affirmative action or 
racial profiling.
The House vote in June set the stage for my interviews with Mexican officials who, 
at the time, called the bill a violation of the North American Free Trade Agreement 
and suggested that Mexico might retaliate. After all, the arbitration panel that 
settles NAFTA disputes had ruled in February that any attempt to ban the trucks from 
the United States was a violation of the agreement.
 Not to be outdone, the Senate yesterday approved legislation that would impose 
strict safety and insurance requirements on Mexican trucks bound for U.S. highways -- 
22 more than are required of American or Canadian counterparts, critics contend. And 
this could set off a trade war.
The controversy is less about safety than about nationalism, and the first to 
notice it were Republicans.
It is wrong for the Congress to discriminate against Mexican trucks, President 
Bush told reporters as the Senate was debating the issue. Our Mexican counterparts 
frankly should be treated just like the Canadians are treated.
Yeah, that could happen -- about the time the United States returns Texas and 
California.
Bush has threatened to veto any measure that insults our neighbors to the south 
and continues to deny Mexican-registered trucks the access to U.S. roadways that was 
called for in the free trade agreement. That access was supposed to take place in 
2000; Bush has set a new target date -- Jan. 1.
The latest stall tactic is an offensive amendment to a funding bill for the 
Transportation Department. Proposed by Democratic Sen. Patty Murray of 
Washington and Republican Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama and backed by all of 
the Senate's Democrats, the legislation is country-specific. It requires Mexico 
-- and only Mexico -- to jump through additional safety hoops; Americans and 
Canadians need not comply.
Objecting, Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi blasted Democrats for harboring an 
attitude that was anti-Mexican, anti-Hispanic, anti-NAFTA. Wounded Democrats then 
demonstrated that they much prefer playing the race card to having it played against 
them. Murray disputed the discrimination charge, while Senate Majority Leader Tom 
Daschle said he was disappointed by Lott's remarks.
The disappointing part is that not enough people saw what Daschle couldn't 
admit: Lott is right. Democrats, in chauffeuring unions such as the Teamsters, 
who are intent on running Mexican competitors off the road, employed 
condescending rhetoric that sounded anti-Mexican. After all, the never-say-die 
protectionists who want to fight the NAFTA battle all over again assume that 
Mexico's safety requirements are inferior to those of the United States or 
Canada. In fact, NAFTA rules set the standards for all three countries, and some 
trucking industry experts insist there is little difference between Mexican trucks and 
their NAFTA cohorts.
The media, obsessed with an assumption that Bush is using one issue after 
another to win the Hispanic vote, have hardly noticed that Democrats, with 
regard to one issue after another, seem determined to lose it. The party of 
Franklin Roosevelt has recently been at odds with Hispanics on vouchers, 
bilingual education, redistricting and the president's faith-based initiative.
That giant sucking sound is the draining of confidence among Hispanics that the 
modern Democratic Party has, at heart, any interests but its own. And when those 
interests conflict with those of Hispanics, it is hasta la vista.
That was predictable. Each chess move by the Republican-controlled White House 
prompts an opposing move by Democrats in Congress. Unfortunately, for Democrats, Bush 
has been moving in sync with the 

Comment on Credit Unions from Quebec...

2000-12-05 Thread Ken Hanly

This is from Eric Pineault in Quebec. He is not on the list so I am
forwarding it on his behalf. His remarks re treatment of workers, cutbacks,
etc. might apply to
larger credit unions here as well but I don't know. When our local credit
unions merged there was no cutback in staff but perhaps employment will
dwindle by attritution. I was at a conference on ethics and globalisation a
couple of years ago and a representative from one of the big banks, I forget
which one, claimed the company had decided against letting anyone go while
other banks were slashing staff..they cut back by attrition. She claimed
this was much better for employee morale and performance and did not hurt
the bottom line at all. If anything they did better than competitors...
   CHeers, Ken Hanly



credit unions in Québec, unified in a huge federation (Desjardins) have
become one of the province's largest financial institutions and were the
first to integrate completely financial services, ie insurance (life, car,
home), long term investment and traditionnal banking, since they were not
subject to the same restrictions of "compartmentalization" as were the banks
until the nineties. They also were instrumental in the development of an
electronic purchase system called "direct access" which uses atm cards in
reatil stores. And they are very aggressive players in the fiscally
subsidized "registered retirement savings fund" boom during the nineties,
they where among the first to suggest to their costumers (oops "members")
that they should borrow to buy their RRSP accounts. (So they can make money
on interest and on brokering fess). The money they make is ideally
redistributed to all members. actually it gets sucked up in the big salaries
that pay themselves the top executives of the movement's bureaucracy.
Today the federation is united in a holding euphemistically called a
"movement" which includes participation in a for profit bank (the
laurentian)  and other for profit enteprise. It has downsized and
flexiblized its workers like everybody else in the financial sector and has
even in the eigthies tried some union busting among some of its employees,
all the while clamouring about cooperative values.
Finally a more left leaning type of credit union, labour union credit
unions, have tried to keep out of Desjardins's grasp but have been sucked in
this year, they will most probably loose their independance and capacity to
fund alternative projects.

sorry about the english my first language is french.


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Sent: mardi 5 décembre 2000 11:47
Subject: Re: Re: co-ops






Re: [Fwd: Re: on the American election - a query and a comment]

2000-11-28 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

Carroll,
  Another way to put this is that Gore paid for
Clinton's having done the right thing vis a vis
Elian, despite Gore's own pathetic pander.
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, November 27, 2000 6:59 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:5028] [Fwd: Re: on the American election - a query and a
comment]


I love the growing list of betrayals of their base
which led to the Democratic defeat. My favorite is
the War on Crime and the denial of the vote to so
many black men in Florida. But this tale runs a
close second.

Carrol

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: on the American election - a query and a comment
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:05:51 -0500
From: jonathan flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think we need to fight on THIS level also, and not REDUCE
the issue to one of the undemocratic nature of the electoral college. 

I agree. Didn't mean to bend the stick that far.

See below.

Jon Flanders

Gored in Miami

The Elián brigade rises again and strong-arms the Miami-Dade canvassing
board to halt the hand count that could put Al Gore in the White House.

By Myra MacPherson

Nov. 24, 2000 | Unfolding like a Greek tragedy, Al Gore's 11th-hour --
or
rather, 13th-hour -- bid for the White House is not without a horrible
irony for the vice president.

The Gore team this week deplored the Miami mob that shouted, screamed
and
nearly shoved through the door of a government building -- thus
succeeding
by intimidation in halting the Miami-Dade County canvassing board's
recount
of crucial votes. Losing that recount in a county where a majority of
the
votes were expected to be favorable to Gore may well cost him the
presidency.

But guess who was among that crowd drummed up by the Republicans? The
same
Cuban-Americans whom Gore had tried so hard to woo by pandering to them
over the fate of a little Cuban boy who washed up on Florida shores a
year
ago this week.

Remember back that far? Rather than risk Cuban-American animus or votes
--
a largely Republican vote to begin with -- Gore refused to support his
own
administration's position on the case. He would not say that the United
States had the legal and moral authority to return Elián González to his
father and, thus, Cuba, arguing instead that a state family court should
make the decision.

His statements backfired -- not only did they not attract the
anti-Castro
Cuban-American community to his banner, they alienated and enraged many
members of Gore's hardcore Democratic base of non-Hispanics in bitterly
divided South Florida. Some defected to Nader. Others sat out the
campaign
or voted halfheartedly rather than working to help elect him.

Was Gore haunted by that waffling past this week when -- faster than you
could say Elián -- Miami's Cuban-Americans answered the call from the
right
once more, this time dealing the vice president's candidacy what could
be a
mortal blow? They answered the call from the Republican Party, from the
staunchly Republican Spanish station Radio Mambi, from U.S. Reps. Ileana
Ros-Lehtenin and Lincoln Diaz Balart -- the one who gave Elián a puppy,
remember? They were asked to do what they do best -- protest, shout,
raise
a ruckus. Perhaps there were some leftover Elián signs they could have
dusted off and used in the name of freedom.

Though the counting officials caved, the Democrats didn't abandon their
fight. Former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo went on CNN to say that even
though
the Republicans can "bring in more thugs ... frighten them into
submission
the way they did in Miami-Dade," the Democrats would not give up the
recount battle. And they have indicated their intention to contest the
final vote tally from the county after the statewide election is
certified.


This sort of mob rule when it comes to anything related to Cuba is not
mystifying to Miamians. They witnessed it well before Elián, when
Cuban-American protesters marched, shouted obscenities and threw rocks
at
concert-goers who were simply trying to attend a performance by
musicians
visiting from Cuba. They have seen it when a museum exhibiting art from
Cuba was threatened by a bomb and one painting was purchased by a
Cuban-American for the sole privilege of burning it. They have seen it
whenever an attempt has been made to stop the embargo and normalize
relations with Cuba.

But to those unfamiliar with the local scene, the situation is hard to
understand. "It's unusual to see Republicans out there screaming and
shouting," burbled one mystified bloviator on TV.

This is not genteel Republicanism but the knock-down kind, borne of a
suspicion and hatred of the Democratic Party since the days of JFK and
the
Bay of Pigs fiasco. Although moderate and even Democratic voices have
been
heard in the Cuban-American community of late, the majority of the
ex

[Fwd: Re: on the American election - a query and a comment]

2000-11-27 Thread Carrol Cox

I love the growing list of betrayals of their base
which led to the Democratic defeat. My favorite is
the War on Crime and the denial of the vote to so
many black men in Florida. But this tale runs a 
close second.

Carrol

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: on the American election - a query and a comment
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:05:51 -0500
From: jonathan flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I think we need to fight on THIS level also, and not REDUCE 
the issue to one of the undemocratic nature of the electoral college. 

I agree. Didn't mean to bend the stick that far.

See below.

Jon Flanders

Gored in Miami

The Elián brigade rises again and strong-arms the Miami-Dade canvassing
board to halt the hand count that could put Al Gore in the White House. 

By Myra MacPherson

Nov. 24, 2000 | Unfolding like a Greek tragedy, Al Gore's 11th-hour --
or
rather, 13th-hour -- bid for the White House is not without a horrible
irony for the vice president. 

The Gore team this week deplored the Miami mob that shouted, screamed
and
nearly shoved through the door of a government building -- thus
succeeding
by intimidation in halting the Miami-Dade County canvassing board's
recount
of crucial votes. Losing that recount in a county where a majority of
the
votes were expected to be favorable to Gore may well cost him the
presidency. 
 
But guess who was among that crowd drummed up by the Republicans? The
same
Cuban-Americans whom Gore had tried so hard to woo by pandering to them
over the fate of a little Cuban boy who washed up on Florida shores a
year
ago this week. 

Remember back that far? Rather than risk Cuban-American animus or votes
--
a largely Republican vote to begin with -- Gore refused to support his
own
administration's position on the case. He would not say that the United
States had the legal and moral authority to return Elián González to his
father and, thus, Cuba, arguing instead that a state family court should
make the decision. 

His statements backfired -- not only did they not attract the
anti-Castro
Cuban-American community to his banner, they alienated and enraged many
members of Gore's hardcore Democratic base of non-Hispanics in bitterly
divided South Florida. Some defected to Nader. Others sat out the
campaign
or voted halfheartedly rather than working to help elect him. 

Was Gore haunted by that waffling past this week when -- faster than you
could say Elián -- Miami's Cuban-Americans answered the call from the
right
once more, this time dealing the vice president's candidacy what could
be a
mortal blow? They answered the call from the Republican Party, from the
staunchly Republican Spanish station Radio Mambi, from U.S. Reps. Ileana
Ros-Lehtenin and Lincoln Diaz Balart -- the one who gave Elián a puppy,
remember? They were asked to do what they do best -- protest, shout,
raise
a ruckus. Perhaps there were some leftover Elián signs they could have
dusted off and used in the name of freedom. 

Though the counting officials caved, the Democrats didn't abandon their
fight. Former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo went on CNN to say that even
though
the Republicans can "bring in more thugs ... frighten them into
submission
the way they did in Miami-Dade," the Democrats would not give up the
recount battle. And they have indicated their intention to contest the
final vote tally from the county after the statewide election is
certified.


This sort of mob rule when it comes to anything related to Cuba is not
mystifying to Miamians. They witnessed it well before Elián, when
Cuban-American protesters marched, shouted obscenities and threw rocks
at
concert-goers who were simply trying to attend a performance by
musicians
visiting from Cuba. They have seen it when a museum exhibiting art from
Cuba was threatened by a bomb and one painting was purchased by a
Cuban-American for the sole privilege of burning it. They have seen it
whenever an attempt has been made to stop the embargo and normalize
relations with Cuba. 

But to those unfamiliar with the local scene, the situation is hard to
understand. "It's unusual to see Republicans out there screaming and
shouting," burbled one mystified bloviator on TV. 

This is not genteel Republicanism but the knock-down kind, borne of a
suspicion and hatred of the Democratic Party since the days of JFK and
the
Bay of Pigs fiasco. Although moderate and even Democratic voices have
been
heard in the Cuban-American community of late, the majority of the
exiles
and their families remain, since the days of their cold warrior hero
Ronald
Reagan, rabidly Republican. 

And there are always enough to take to the streets and form an
impressive
crowd. The television pundit didn't get it. But then neither did Gore.
Until it was too late. 


salon.com




a profound comment on the transformation problem

2000-09-21 Thread Jim Devine

"This section solves the puzzle about value and prices of production called 
the transformation problem ... It is not crucial to the larger story of 
capitalism." -- Charles Andrews, _From Capitalism to Equality_, p. 97.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: a profound comment on the transformation problem

2000-09-21 Thread Fabian Balardini

Jim,
I don't have the book yet and will not be able to get it probably for a while, so 
could you please comment or reproduce Andrews' discussion (main points or how his 
proposed solution differ or reproduces other previous solutions) of the transformation 
problem.

Thanks,

Fabian 


--

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:50:22   Jim Devine wrote:
"This section solves the puzzle about value and prices of production called 
the transformation problem ... It is not crucial to the larger story of 
capitalism." -- Charles Andrews, _From Capitalism to Equality_, p. 97.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




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Re: Re: a profound comment on the transformation problem

2000-09-21 Thread Jim Devine

At 04:37 PM 9/21/00 -0400, you wrote:
Jim,
I don't have the book yet and will not be able to get it probably for a 
while, so could you please comment or reproduce Andrews' discussion (main 
points or how his proposed solution differ or reproduces other previous 
solutions) of the transformation problem.

Thanks,

Fabian

His main point seems to be a relatively common-sense explanation of the 
"solution" to the "transformation problem" that Fred Moseley advocates. See 
the latter's article in the current _Review of Radical Political Economics_ 
or in the book he edited, _Marx's Method in Capital_. It's a very simple 
solution, basically saying that there's no problem at all, since prices and 
values normally differ, but total prices = total value, while total 
property income = total surplus-value.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




RE: Re: Re: a profound comment on the transformation problem

2000-09-21 Thread Max Sawicky

At 04:37 PM 9/21/00 -0400, you wrote:
Jim,
I don't have the book yet and will not be able to get it probably for a 
while, so could you please comment or reproduce Andrews' discussion (main 
points or how his proposed solution differ or reproduces other previous 
solutions) of the transformation problem.
Thanks,
Fabian

His main point seems to be a relatively common-sense explanation of the 
"solution" to the "transformation problem" . . .


Alert.  Alert.  Value theory thread incoming.
Take cover.

mbs




Re: Re: Re: a profound comment on the transformationproblem

2000-09-21 Thread Fabian Balardini

What about his discussion of the falling r? Does he also take a single/simulataneist 
system approach or he mentions temporality?  
--

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:54:43   Jim Devine wrote:
At 04:37 PM 9/21/00 -0400, you wrote:
Jim,
I don't have the book yet and will not be able to get it probably for a 
while, so could you please comment or reproduce Andrews' discussion (main 
points or how his proposed solution differ or reproduces other previous 
solutions) of the transformation problem.

Thanks,

Fabian

His main point seems to be a relatively common-sense explanation of the 
"solution" to the "transformation problem" that Fred Moseley advocates. See 
the latter's article in the current _Review of Radical Political Economics_ 
or in the book he edited, _Marx's Method in Capital_. It's a very simple 
solution, basically saying that there's no problem at all, since prices and 
values normally differ, but total prices = total value, while total 
property income = total surplus-value.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




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Re: Re: Re: Re: a profound comment on the transformationproblem

2000-09-21 Thread Jim Devine

I haven't gotten to that...

At 05:19 PM 9/21/00 -0400, you wrote:
What about his discussion of the falling r? Does he also take a 
single/simulataneist system approach or he mentions temporality?
--

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:54:43   Jim Devine wrote:
 At 04:37 PM 9/21/00 -0400, you wrote:
 Jim,
 I don't have the book yet and will not be able to get it probably for a
 while, so could you please comment or reproduce Andrews' discussion (main
 points or how his proposed solution differ or reproduces other previous
 solutions) of the transformation problem.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Fabian
 
 His main point seems to be a relatively common-sense explanation of the
 "solution" to the "transformation problem" that Fred Moseley advocates. See
 the latter's article in the current _Review of Radical Political Economics_
 or in the book he edited, _Marx's Method in Capital_. It's a very simple
 solution, basically saying that there's no problem at all, since prices and
 values normally differ, but total prices = total value, while total
 property income = total surplus-value.
 
 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
 
 


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Re: RE: Re: Re: a profound comment on thetransformation problem

2000-09-21 Thread Doug Henwood

Max Sawicky wrote:

Alert.  Alert.  Value theory thread incoming.
Take cover.

Value theory? What's that?

Doug




Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: a profound comment on the transformation problem

2000-09-21 Thread Jim Devine

At 07:19 PM 9/21/00 -0400, you wrote:
Max Sawicky wrote:

Alert.  Alert.  Value theory thread incoming.
Take cover.

Value theory? What's that?

Doug

economists know the price everything and the value of nothing...

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Re: Re: Re: a profound comment on the transformation problem

2000-09-21 Thread JKSCHW

In a message dated 9/21/00 4:58:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 His main point seems to be a relatively common-sense explanation of the 
 "solution" to the "transformation problem" that Fred Moseley advocates. See 
 the latter's article in the current _Review of Radical Political Economics_ 
 or in the book he edited, _Marx's Method in Capital_. It's a very simple 
 solution, basically saying that there's no problem at all, since prices and 
 values normally differ, but total prices = total value, while total 
 property income = total surplus-value. 

For a crisp demolition of this "solution," see M.C. Howard and J.E. King, A 
History of Marxian Economics, vol II., pp. 276-80. --jks




Comment # 1 on 'Postmodernist Economics' intro (from the Marxism list)

2000-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect

Cullenberg et al:

And, again, this world
structured according to the object-life of the commodity has been thought
to have received an enormous recent boost by the emergence of new
information technologies, especially the internet. According to this view,
computers have made commodity time and space ultimately traversable in ways
unthinkable for past generations of producers and consumers. In addition to
the use of computer technology in such "post-Fordist" production methods as
"flexible specialization," it is claimed that one need not leave one's
chair (in front of one's screen, of course) to be bombarded by commodity
images and the cornucopia of goods that exist and are transacted in
cyberspace. This obliteration of previous constraints of time and
geographical location in buying and selling (lowering considerably
transactions costs and reducing to rubble other past barriers to the
international flow of financial capital and goods) reconstructs all notions
and experiences pertaining to community and nation, hence the idea of the
"global economy" that is said to be the hallmark of the postmodern.


Whoever really thinks this needs to read vol 2 of 'Capital'.  Marx goes
into how capital constantly revolutionises not only the means of production
but also the means of distribution and payment.  Since the rate of turnover
of capital has a substantial affect on the rate of profit, and profit is
the name of the game, how could it be otherwise?

Ironically, these days it is probably the squeeze on surplus-value and the
stagnation of the productive sphere that is driving globalisation and
communications development.

In any case, given the massive *potential* for IT, what is interesting is
not the development that has taken place, but that such development is
still quite slow and impaired.  This is true even in the imperialist world.
In the Third World, there is no sign of a mass computer culture.  After
decades of IT development, the vast majority of humanity is still excluded.

It has always seemed to me that postmodernist intellectuals' understanding
of the world is limited to what they can see in their own university
departments and out their windows.  Their worldview is often less broad
than that of the small shopkeepers of their class.  At least the
shopkeepers deal in the real world.

The pomo 'intellectuals' need to get out more.

Philip Ferguson

Louis Proyect

The Marxism mailing-list: http://www.marxmail.org




Comment #2 on 'Postmodernist Economics' intro (from the Marxism list)

2000-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect

Lou

this was an extraordinarily interesting post for my particular 
purposes.   Here at Queensland University of Technology, the uni plus the 
state govt have launched what they call the 'creative industries 
initiative'.  It parallels similar initiatives especially in Europe. The 
State Govt put in a miserly $15 million (A).  Such, though, is the state of 
funding to Higher Ed that the university almost passed out with joy.

Currently we are re-organising the Arts faculty to fit in with the Creative 
Industries.  The fact that no-one knows what these are seems a truly minor 
point.  We have been deluged with hype about the 'new economy', the 'new 
media' and 'post-Fordism'. Everywhere the word 'digital' is used as a kind 
of talisman or charm to keep off the wary or the critical. Someone is even 
talking of devising a unit on the 'language of non-linear media'.

The piece below from your post is in many ways typical of the sort of 
document that has been circulated. Though there has been nothing here with 
such echoes of Marxist type analysis.

CULLENBERG, AMARIGLIO, RUCCIO:  "Be that as it may, we note again that for
many literary and cultural theorists like Jameson, the realm of the
postmodern denotes rampant commodification, unchecked by oppositional
forces--avant-gardes, say--that find themselves subverted or even co-opted
by the very power and allure of the market. And, again, this world
structured according to the object-life of the commodity has been thought
to have received an enormous recent boost by the emergence of new
information technologies, especially the internet. According to this view,
computers have made commodity time and space ultimately traversable in ways
unthinkable for past generations of producers and consumers. In addition to
the use of computer technology in such "post-Fordist" production methods as
"flexible specialization," it is claimed that one need not leave one's
chair (in front of one's screen, of course) to be bombarded by commodity
images and the cornucopia of goods that exist and are transacted in
cyberspace. This obliteration of previous constraints of time and
geographical location in buying and selling (lowering considerably
transactions costs and reducing to rubble other past barriers to the
international flow of financial capital and goods) reconstructs all notions
and experiences pertaining to community and nation, hence the idea of the
"global economy" that is said to be the hallmark of the postmodern.

Your response, stressing the continuities of class power and the 
appropriation of surplus value, was wonderful in its oh so typical mordant 
clarity.

But there are other continuities within the cultural realm which gobble de 
gook about 'digital' and 'virtual' tend to obscure.  For a start there is 
no new art form.  The digitalists might of course find one.  Who can 
say?  But even so, any new form will still spring from the fundamental 
necessity of art, that is it will seek to provide the moment of 
transcendence. As such it will have to spring from a philosophical and 
political realism about the world, even though in its presentation the art 
may not take a realist form.

At a faculty meeting last year a student said something which was so honest 
and important that it was of necessity immediately ignored by the 
academics.  She pointed out that she had gained a lot of knowledge on how 
to use the computer and had a range of sophisticated technical skills but 
she still did not know what to say. The digitalists were conspicuously 
silent. The reality is that they have nothing to say about reality. And now 
as you pointed out that the postmodernist game of denying the existence of 
reality has finally run out of steam, they have even less to offer but the 
kind of puffed up, self- generating hype about the new media that one would 
expect from a marketing executive.

So I think we are in the middle of a new round of the old game of 
'trahaison des clercs'. Instead of exploring ways in which the new media 
can be used to emancipate the oppressed, we are being urged to take up the 
new media as yet another alternative to genuinely creative and radical 
thought. It is as if the academics depressed by the failure of the left and 
the quiescence of the working class have turned to worship capital through 
the mediation of the computer based technologies.

All of this means of course that the Creative Industries will not be so 
creative.  Or if creativity does happen it will be despite and not because 
of the academy or the market which it is so anxious to serve.

regards

Gary



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no comment

2000-05-29 Thread Jim Devine

from SLATE'S survey of what's in US magazines:

Harper's, June 2000
  An essay by Tom Wolfe decries the political correctness foisted on us by 
"Rococo Marxists" such as Judith Butler and Stanley Fish. Since World War I 
American intellectuals have been telling Americans their society is 
cancerous, and now that society is doing better than ever, they fall back 
on ever-more ridiculous charges. …

Atlantic Monthly, June 2000
The cover story asks if Harvard turned Ted Kaczynski into the Unabomber. 
When he arrived there in the late 1950s, he encountered an intellectual 
"culture of despair" in which professors taught that science would destroy 
civilization and that science rendered morality meaningless. Kaczynski also 
participated in a social experiment in which he was subjected to intense 
stress and criticism. His Unabomber manifesto may be the rational outgrowth 
of his Harvard experience.

Vanity Fair, June 2000
  … A piece recounts the Christie's and Sotheby's auction house 
price-fixing scandal. Former Christie's CEO Christopher Davidge may have 
turned over smoking-gun evidence in order to ruin the art-collecting blue 
bloods who never accepted his middle-class roots.




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Re: UE meeting and comment

2000-04-04 Thread Jim Devine


On my way home I couldn't stop thinking about Dolan. I can't see how a
radical movement, one aimed at worker self-emancipation could ever be
led by such a person. Perhaps others can enlighten me on his good
qualities, but I was very much unimpressed.

Michael Yates

Of course, the 1960s anti-war movement threw up people like (East Coast) 
Jerry Rubin of the Yippies, who was also a total self-promoter and 
over-simplifier. Somehow we had an effect anyway. The point is to not worry 
too much about the leaders but to instead focus on building the mass movement.

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Re: Re: UE meeting and comment

2000-04-04 Thread Michael Perelman

I suspect that it is a mistake to regard Ralph Nader as entirely good or
entirely bad.  He has done some excellent work.  For example, I suspect -- but
he should speak for himself -- that Patrick Bond appreciates Nader's work about
the drug companies in South Africa.

At the same time, Nader has made some questionable alliances.  Unfortunately,
purity is in short supply.

Louis Proyect wrote:

 At 10:36 PM 4/3/00 -0400, Michael Yates wrote:
 I went to the meeting early so I could hear the other presentations. The
 first speaker was Mike Dolan of Seattle WTO protest fame.

 Mike Dolan runs an outfit called Global Trade Watch that is a wing of Ralph
 Nader's Public Citizen. Since Dolan's China-bashing seems suspiciously
 linked to the sort of advocacy found in the ranks of some of our more
 backward-looking unions (UNITE, United Steelworkers), I was curious to see
 if could find evidence of funding from these quarters on Nader's website or
 in Lexis-Nexis.

 I discovered something very interesting.

 Nonprofits are not required to divulge the identify of donors of more than
 $200. So Public Citizen (and the Sierra Club) take advantage of this.
 Although it seems highly dubious for groups charged with the responsibility
 for opening up "civil society" to hide their financing in this manner, it
 actually reflects their "inside the beltway" mentality and willingness to
 cooperate with the powers-that-be. Nader reluctance to run a high-profile
 campaign for President on the Green Party ticket last go-round, clearly
 related to an unwillingness to raise and spend money on the order of his
 Public Citizen, could very likely be related to his embarrassment over some
 of their sources.

 Meanwhile, I discovered that Morris Dees is the treasurer of Public
 Citizen, which goes a long way in explaining the rather shady attitude
 toward funding. Dees runs a nonprofit in the South that raises money on the
 basis of northern liberal hysteria about the Klan, but does very little to
 actually confront the Klan. Interestingly enough, Dees has gone on an
 ideological offensive against the Green contingent of the Seattle
 protestors whom he regards as romantic reactionaries in broad brushstrokes
 that evokes LM magazine. Alex Cockburn and his co-editor Jeff St. Clair
 have made an amalgam between Doug Henwood and Dees on the most flimsy
 grounds. Supposedly the "snooty" LBO would also find grounds to disparage
 the environmentalists. Obviously the evidence is just the opposite. Doug
 and LBO has, to its credit, identified completely with the sea turtle
 contingent.

 People like Dolan and Ralph Nader expose a problem in this emerging
 movement that was addressed at an interesting panel at this weekend's
 Socialist Scholars Conference titled "After Seattle: a New
 Internationalism?" Tania Noctiummes, who advises French trade unions on
 questions such as MAI, made some very cogent points. She said that the
 discourse around the Seattle protests, especially from figures like Dolan,
 revolves around "citizens" and "civil society". Such classless categories
 can obviously lead to all sorts of confusions with respect to our attitude
 toward the ruling class. Are Bill Clinton and the sea turtle protestors
 both "citizens" in pursuit of a common political goal? Given Clinton's
 demagogic appeals and the past record of inside-the-beltway operations like
 the Sierra Club and Public Citizen, one would have to say that an
 alternative--namely socialist--is required.

 She also pointed out that there has been very confused thinking about what
 it means to be engaged in struggle around "international" issues. After
 all, the main terrain is the national state even when it comes to global
 trade agreements such as the WTO itself. The trade unions and NGO's
 involved in the Seattle protests tend to sow confusion on these questions
 because politically they are reluctant to confront their own ruling class.
 It is much easier to confront the Chinese government on prison labor than
 our own apparently. Wouldn't it make for an interesting leap forward in the
 class struggle if the AFL-CIO announced that it would organize prison
 laborers in the USA? They haven't lifted a finger for welfare recipients,
 so I wouldn't hold my breath.

 Doug Henwood spoke on the same panel as Tania Noctiummes and made many
 excellent points, including the need to steer clear of China-bashing.

 Louis Proyect

 (The Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org)

--

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Economics Department
California State University
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530-898-5321
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Re: UE meeting and comment

2000-04-04 Thread Louis Proyect

At 10:36 PM 4/3/00 -0400, Michael Yates wrote:
I went to the meeting early so I could hear the other presentations. The
first speaker was Mike Dolan of Seattle WTO protest fame. 

Mike Dolan runs an outfit called Global Trade Watch that is a wing of Ralph
Nader's Public Citizen. Since Dolan's China-bashing seems suspiciously
linked to the sort of advocacy found in the ranks of some of our more
backward-looking unions (UNITE, United Steelworkers), I was curious to see
if could find evidence of funding from these quarters on Nader's website or
in Lexis-Nexis.

I discovered something very interesting.

Nonprofits are not required to divulge the identify of donors of more than
$200. So Public Citizen (and the Sierra Club) take advantage of this.
Although it seems highly dubious for groups charged with the responsibility
for opening up "civil society" to hide their financing in this manner, it
actually reflects their "inside the beltway" mentality and willingness to
cooperate with the powers-that-be. Nader reluctance to run a high-profile
campaign for President on the Green Party ticket last go-round, clearly
related to an unwillingness to raise and spend money on the order of his
Public Citizen, could very likely be related to his embarrassment over some
of their sources.

Meanwhile, I discovered that Morris Dees is the treasurer of Public
Citizen, which goes a long way in explaining the rather shady attitude
toward funding. Dees runs a nonprofit in the South that raises money on the
basis of northern liberal hysteria about the Klan, but does very little to
actually confront the Klan. Interestingly enough, Dees has gone on an
ideological offensive against the Green contingent of the Seattle
protestors whom he regards as romantic reactionaries in broad brushstrokes
that evokes LM magazine. Alex Cockburn and his co-editor Jeff St. Clair
have made an amalgam between Doug Henwood and Dees on the most flimsy
grounds. Supposedly the "snooty" LBO would also find grounds to disparage
the environmentalists. Obviously the evidence is just the opposite. Doug
and LBO has, to its credit, identified completely with the sea turtle
contingent.

People like Dolan and Ralph Nader expose a problem in this emerging
movement that was addressed at an interesting panel at this weekend's
Socialist Scholars Conference titled "After Seattle: a New
Internationalism?" Tania Noctiummes, who advises French trade unions on
questions such as MAI, made some very cogent points. She said that the
discourse around the Seattle protests, especially from figures like Dolan,
revolves around "citizens" and "civil society". Such classless categories
can obviously lead to all sorts of confusions with respect to our attitude
toward the ruling class. Are Bill Clinton and the sea turtle protestors
both "citizens" in pursuit of a common political goal? Given Clinton's
demagogic appeals and the past record of inside-the-beltway operations like
the Sierra Club and Public Citizen, one would have to say that an
alternative--namely socialist--is required.

She also pointed out that there has been very confused thinking about what
it means to be engaged in struggle around "international" issues. After
all, the main terrain is the national state even when it comes to global
trade agreements such as the WTO itself. The trade unions and NGO's
involved in the Seattle protests tend to sow confusion on these questions
because politically they are reluctant to confront their own ruling class.
It is much easier to confront the Chinese government on prison labor than
our own apparently. Wouldn't it make for an interesting leap forward in the
class struggle if the AFL-CIO announced that it would organize prison
laborers in the USA? They haven't lifted a finger for welfare recipients,
so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Doug Henwood spoke on the same panel as Tania Noctiummes and made many
excellent points, including the need to steer clear of China-bashing.





Louis Proyect

(The Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org)




UE meeting and comment

2000-04-03 Thread Michael Yates

I delivered an address to the officers, staff,and organizers of the
United Electrical Workers (UE) in Wilkes Barre, PA. this morning.  I
thank those of you who commented on a draft of my talk. Your comments
were most useful to me.  The talk was a great success and generated a
long discussion. These brothers and sisters are about as left as you get
in the US labor movement. President John Hovis and the other officers
are remarkably unpretentious and down to earth.  Of course, no officer
earns more money than the highest paid member (today the president earns
$45,000!!). They are keen on empowering the members.  Not servicing them
or mobilizing them, but helping them to control their own union.  Most
remarkable.

I went to the meeting early so I could hear the other presentations. The
first speaker was Mike Dolan of Seattle WTO protest fame.  I must say
that I have seldom seen a person so full of himself, even holding up a
picture of himself in a Wall Street Journal article about him (why did
he bring this with him?) and refering to his organization's website as
"his" website. I shook hands with him before the meeting, but he was not
at all interested in learning anything about me.  He just shook hands
and then went off to continue whistling the song "Union Maids."  He gave
a rather canned pitch complete with annoying histrionics and dumb jokes
and many references to himself.  Most troubling to me was the incredible
China bashing spiel he gave, complete with numerous handouts.(He argued
that we cannot let capital win any victoreis and this alone is reason to
go all out on keeping China out of the WTO).  Now I understand that the
China issue is complex, but his talk verged on the worst kind of
jingoism and racism.  Not one mention of prison labor in the US or
sweatshops here or racism here or anything like this or what his
organization proposed we do about these things.  Nothing about attempts
at direct solidarity with Chinese workers.  Nothing about what next if
China is not admitted to the WTO. He had a lot of slogans but not much
in the way of analysis. In addition, he seemed the kind of person not
one bit interested in anyone other than himself. Fortunately the
unionists seemed in agreement with me when I said in my talk that the
China issue needed to be carefully considered, especially in light of
the long history of absolutely horrible racism of US labor against
Chinese immigrants.

On my way home I couldn't stop thinking about Dolan. I can't see how a
radical movement, one aimed at worker self-emancipation could ever be
led by such a person. Perhaps others can enlighten me on his good
qualities, but I was very much unimpressed.

Michael Yates




[PEN-L:6706] No comment

1999-05-12 Thread Frank Durgin


USIA
10 May 1999 
U.S. ENVOYS TO CASPIAN BASIN TOUT INVESTMENT PROSPECTS 
(Say financial payoff requires long-term commitment) (900)
By Phillip Kurata
USIA Staff Writer

Washington -- U.S. ambassadors assigned to energy-rich countries
surrounding the Caspian Sea are offering "gold key" service to U.S.
businesses considering investing in Central Asia.

"We offer gold key service We will help you get started. We'll
help you make appointments. We'll rent you a car. We'll rent you an
interpreter. We'll make hotel reservations -- all kinds of things like
this," U.S. Ambassador to Azerbaijan Stanley Escudero said at a May 7
business forum in Washington.

The U.S. embassies in Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan offer similar
services to help U.S. companies capitalize on potentially enormous
opportunities in the Caspian Basin, which has huge oil and gas
reserves. The U.S. government has opened a business center in Ankara,
Turkey, staffed by trade promotion officials to help U.S. business
people to establish contacts in Turkey and points east.

The U.S. Caspian diplomacy is pegged to two proposed pipelines. One
would carry crude oil from Baku, Azerbaijan, through Georgia to
Turkey's Mediterranean port at Ceyhan. The second would pump natural
gas from Turkmenistan, under the Caspian Sea, through Azerbaijan and
Georgia to Turkey.

The United States and its NATO partner Turkey have embarked on a
policy to bring democracy, stability and prosperity to the Caucasus
and Central Asia by encouraging foreign investment in the region's
fledgling free market economies.

Ambassador Escudero said business, not aid, fosters development.

"What develops a nation is business activity. What develops a nation
is the new wealth which is created and the new knowledge that is
created and the multiplier effect of successful activities
Azerbaijan is ready for that. It's ripe for it," Escudero said.

Speaking at the same forum with Escudero were U.S. Ambassador to
Armenia Michael Lemmon, U.S. Ambassador to Georgia Kenneth Yalowitz,
U.S. Ambassador to Kazakhstan Richard Jones, U.S. Ambassador to
Turkmenistan Steve Mann, U.S. Ambassador to Uzbekistan Joseph Presel,
and U.S. Ambassador to Turkey Mark Parris.

With the exception of Parris, the ambassadors also spoke to business
conferences in New Orleans and New York to publicize the investment
opportunities in the Caucasus Basin. The three main U.S. trade
agencies -- the Trade and Development Agency, the Export-Import Bank,
and the Overseas Private Investment Corporation -- are offering
incentives and guarantees to U.S. companies willing to risk investment
in the former Soviet republics.

Jones, the U.S. envoy to Kazakhstan, voiced a theme common to all the
ambassadors.

"Kazakhstan is not a market for the faint hearted. It's a
high-maintenance business environment that will require financial
strength and a significant amount of executive time and energy to make
your business profitable," he said.

Costly customs delays, bureaucratic red tape to obtain work permits,
inconsistent application of the tax code and lack of respect for
contracts are a partial list of pitfalls facing U.S. businesses in
Kazakhstan, Jones said.

Nevertheless, more than 100 U.S. companies have opened offices in
Almaty, the commercial capital of Kazakhstan, in sectors such as oil
and gas, consumer goods, power generation and telecommunications,
Jones said. The ambassador has a doctorate in business and said he was
chosen for the Kazakhstan assignment because he could be instrumental
in helping the country's conversion to a Western-style economy.

"I met with President (Nursultan) Nazarbayev just prior to my
departure from Kazakhstan for this tour to stress our concerns in
commercial issues. In this meeting, he reiterated his strong desire
for more U.S. direct investment in Kazakhstan. He also reiterated his
wish to diversify Kazakhstan's economy, create more jobs and spur
economic growth," Jones said.

Turkmenistan, possessing the world's fourth largest proven reserves of
natural gas and large oil deposits, is hampered by a lingering
addiction to central planning, Ambassador Mann said.

President Saparmurat Niyazov personally supervises political affairs,
even at the local level, Mann said.

"With Turkmenistan, the question is, When is this energy potential
going to be exploited? Will it be? I think the answer is, yes, it will
be. I think the time is now," Mann said.

Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan are progressing toward a resolution of
their territorial dispute over the delineation of the Caspian Sea.

The ambassador said he is encouraged by the competence of Niyazov's
advisers and ministers in the energy sector who have convinced the
Turkmen leader to approve the construction of a trans-Caspian natural
gas pipeline.

Turkmen gas is a crucial element in Turkey's development plans. Within
a decade, natural gas is projected to account for a quarter of
Turkey's energy needs. At present, the clean-burning fuel satisfies

[PEN-L:1943] warriornet comment on stampeding bison

1999-01-02 Thread Louis Proyect

Louis Proyect wrote:
The significance of the surround was that large numbers could be taken. An
abundance and in some cases an overabundance of meat, hides, and other raw
materials were essential to the Sioux, for there were those stark occasions
when the buffalo would seemingly disappear and starvation and want would
follow. The surround was necessary as insurance against just such
emergencies, and if upon occasion some animals were wasted, that was only a
natural consequence of oversupply. Even more significant, however, was the
fact that the surround was a group enterprise involving a strict policing
system and a communal distribution to the benefit of everyone.

It makes perfect sense to me that people who needed buffalo or elk would
run them over cliffs or into floundering snow, especially in the earlier
times before the horse.  What doesn't seem to be understood by the
academics that try to promote this as waste is that all the meat that
couldn't be eaten at the time could be dried (jerky) and would provide meat
for many months if a large hunt was successful.  The skins of course were
also dried and later worked as they were necessary for clothing or housing.
All other parts of the animals would also be used like stomachs and
intestines for water carrying, cooking bags, or sausage type use.  Bones
provided marrow for sustenance and tools for skin scraping, sewing,
weapons, digging, and many other uses.  Brains were used in skin
preservation.  Virtually nothing was wasted even when hundreds of animals
were killed at one time.  With a few days of intense and efficient work,
the people who hunted this way were guaranteed prosperity for their people
for months and even years ahead.  Depending on the size of the hunting
band's village size, another such hunt may not be needed for a lengthy
amount of time.  Certainly no one would deny that when the Europeans first
encountered the plains buffalo, there was no reason to believe there was
any problem with overhunting as millions of buffalo roamed all over the
country.  

Yet we know the European immigrants enjoyed target practice as they lounged
on trains running through buffalo country, or massacred thousands of
animals without taking meat or skins and only removing tongues for the
white gourmet market, leaving the rest of the animal to rot in the fields
where even the vultures couldn't keep up with the massive carcass quantity. 

Anyone trying to make the argument that the Indians were wasteful will only
get to hear more about who is really was responsible for the waste.  They
only hurt their cause and create more sympathy for the peoples who have
been misrepresented all along.  I only wish all the genocide promoters were
this stupid.  


-
tully


Louis Proyect
(http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)






[PEN-L:1820] One more comment

1998-12-21 Thread Nativejmc

The Columbian article failed to explicitly note that not only have I filed a
grievance, but per Clark College processes, my first level of appeal goes to
none other than Vice-president Ramsey ("please Mr. Himmler, at least fairly
consider the possibility thant anti-Semitism is evil and even
counterproductive") and then to Dr. Hasart who has already stated in the
article that: "...Craven's comments also put the College in a great deal of
liability." That means, through the representation of an attorney for Mr.
Annett (no name yet produced) and through the e-mails of Mr. Annett (without
even one example of alleged defamatory comments and none sent to the
reporter), the President knowing that truth is an absolute and complete
defense to slander or libel, has concluded--my future Stage II appeal
authority--that there is credible evidence that a) If I committed slander or
libel the College would have legal exposure; b) that there is credible
evidence that I did knowingly tell an untruth and/or told an untruth with
wreckless disregard for counter-evidence/argument that would easily expose
the untruth for what it is and, that I did so with malice and caused damages.
Because if what I said was true or asserted on the basis of good-faith
attempts for supporting and contradictory evidence--and that was attested to
by those who have direct and personal knowledge and evidence--then the College
has not potential threat of liability.

This is who I am supposed to appeal to and I have already been summarily
judged and convicted of "inappropriate use of state resources" and
"defamation." This is the level of "due process" at Clark--your appeal judges
are the ones that made the original determinations being appealed. Free speech
and academic freedom are of course "inconvenient" and bothersome--except for
themselves--for despots, megalomaniacs, narcissists and thugs.

Jim Craven






[PEN-L:561] Re: re-no comment, II (investing in defense)

1998-10-17 Thread Tom Walker

Michael Perelman wrote,

Somehow there has to be a logical thread here . . .

"In this game (which is called 'defense')
proportions are lost to the public mind
(can the mind resist)
An 'economy' of permanent warfare
is called 'peace' and 'preparedness'
-- every person and thing is upheaved
in its fury
and those who once were call 'Americans'
are now merely tourists
at or around
empty sites of peace
while those who are called 'the Americans'
give dictation to the world."

From 'Bread and Wine'
Charles Watts (1947-1998)

Regards, 

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[PEN-L:559] Re: re-no comment, II (investing in defense)

1998-10-17 Thread michael perelman

Let's see if I understand this correctly.  The CIA fails to predict the Indian
nuke test -- even though early reports of it were in the press -- so they
deserve more money.  The towering regime of N. Korea threatens to bomb Hawaii
-- yes, I remember when Reagan spoke of the immanent danger of the Sandinistas
coming to Texas.

We could also throw in the destruction of the TWA flight and the Olympic
bombing as a need to protect ourselves against Arab terrorism -- so we got our
wonderful anti-terrorism law.

By the way, is anybody suspicious that the "wayward" cruise missle landed in
Pakistan.  Could it have been a form of a payoff to Pakistan -- landing an
unexploded missle -- so that they would not protest our bombing of their client
state?

Somehow there has to be a logical thread here or is logic as imaginary as the
peace dividend?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]






[PEN-L:556] re-no comment, II (investing in defense)

1998-10-17 Thread Frank Durgin


  I watched the Leher report last night. Lots of discussion about a lot
of things I can't remember now, but nothing about this.
My only prior awareness of it came from reading  Tom Kruse's Pen-l554
message. The following report is from the English Electronic Telegraph
www://telegraph.co.uk

   Frank  

US boosts defence spending by
 £165bn
 By Hugo Gurdon in Washington 


   Other nations will come under
pressure to
 follow Pentagon

 AMERICA began its biggest peacetime
military
 build-up since 1985 yesterday after
President Clinton
 and Congress agreed to increase its
defence budget
 by 10 per cent to $280 billion (£165bn).

 The turn-round after years of cuts will
include a
 doubling of spending on missile defence.
It was
 welcomed by critics who believe that
Washington has
 for too long spent "the peace dividend" on
civilian
 programmes while turning a blind eye to
national
 security threats left behind by the
collapse of
 communism. The Joint Chiefs of Staff
recently
 complained that the country was $15
billion short of
 appropriate defence spending.

 The switch from cuts to extra spending,
comes amid
 mounting concern that American
capabilities have
 dwindled dangerously, leaving the country
 ill-prepared to meet dangers posed by
rogue states,
 weapons proliferation and rising
instability in the
 post-Cold War era.

 In the $1.7 trillion (£1 trillion) overall
1999 budget
 settled on Thursday, Republican
negotiators secured
 an extra $9 billion of military spending
on top of the
 $270.5 billion agreed in negotiations with
the White
 House a month ago, which would have
increased
 defence spending by less that six per
cent.


 Newt Gingrich, Speaker of the House of
 Representatives, who once complained that
military
 cuts meant that the Pentagon, the Defence
 Department's five-sided building in
Virginia, should
 become the Triangle, welcomed the
agreement to
 reverse the armed forces' recent decline.
He said:
 "This is the first time since 1985 that in
peacetime we
 have increased defence spending, because
our young
 men and women in uniform deserve the
support of
 the United States of America." Defence
spending rose
 in 1991 to finance the Gulf war.

 Republicans want annual military spending
boosted
 quickly above $300 billion. President
Reagan's build
 up, which is now credited by many with
winning the
 Cold War, reached its peak in 1985, when
he spent
 $287 billion, which after adjusting for
inflation is
 equivalent to $485 billion today.

 Of the extra money agreed on Thursday, $1
billion
 will be used to more than double research
on a
 missile defence shield, a scaled down
version of
 Ronald Reagan's Star Wars project. North
Korea,
 Iran, Pakistan and India are acquiring
sophisticated
 ballistic systems, and Iraq is not thought
to have
 abandoned its hopes either. India's Agni
missiles are
 extending their range beyond 1,250 miles,
and Iran's
 Shahab-3 will have a range of 1,000 miles
or more.

 North Korea's Taepo Dong-2 missile, with a
range of
 over 3,700 miles, will allow the unstable
Stalinist
 tyranny in Pyongyang to hit 

[PEN-L:545] no comment

1998-10-16 Thread Thomas Kruse

From a Salomon Smith Barney blurb:

"Given worldwide economic turmoil and our outlook for slowing profits
growth, we have been recommending that investors focus on defensive names
with topline growth and strong earnings visibility. Stocks within the
defense industry have typically provided a haven from such slow-downs, as
government defense spending is largely immune to economic influences. If the
economic situation becomes too severe, they can lead to instability and
actually benefit the defense companies, as was the case in Indonesia earlier
in the year. As investors remain concerned about the economic outlook, we
expect the defensive nature of the defense industry to further benefit
stocks within this group. Over the longerterm, we expect the group to
benefit from rising defense procurement spending and continued restructuring
toward higher-growth niches."



Tom Kruse / Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia
Tel/Fax: (591-4) 248242
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






[PEN-L:553] no comment, II (investing in defense)

1998-10-16 Thread Thomas Kruse

On defense sector stocks:

About $9 Billion Is Added to Pentagon Budget
NYT, today
By TIM WEINER

WASHINGTON -- The White House agreed with congressional negotiators Thursday
to add about $9 billion to the military budget, including about $2 billion
for intelligence programs and about $1 billion for missile defense,
congressional staff members said. 

Republican leaders in Congress hope to return Pentagon spending to levels
approaching the historic highs of the Reagan administration, when military
budgets exceeded $300 billion a year. The House and Senate agreed last month
to authorize $270.5 billion for fiscal 1999.



Tom Kruse / Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia
Tel/Fax: (591-4) 248242
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






[PEN-L:547] Re: no comment

1998-10-16 Thread valis

Tom Kruse wordlessly delivers this  From a Salomon Smith Barney blurb:
 "Given worldwide economic turmoil and our outlook for slowing profits
 growth, we have been recommending that investors focus on defensive names
 with topline growth and strong earnings visibility. Stocks within the
 defense industry have typically provided a haven from such slow-downs, as
 government defense spending is largely immune to economic influences...
[Etc.]..." 

Why be speechless, Tom; aren't they the guys who make money "...the old-
fashioned way"?  Well, they certainly mean it, don't they?  What can have 
a longer track record than the commerce of war?!  As for the sickeningly
amoral literalism: it's good, assuring that Madame LaFarge over there 
won't miss a single stitch. 
 valis 
  






[PEN-L:251] Comment on Moby Dick

1998-05-27 Thread Louis Proyect

A friend of mine who teaches American studies wrote:

"My only major disagreement with CLR [James]: we should be happy that
the ship goes down, even if the workers mostly die and Ahab is
the one that pulls it down; it was not only the first factory
and the first multicultural one at that, but the first Auschwitz
of the sea, and one of the most important of all. That was
something that should have been seen in the 1940s and early 1950s,
but the workerist perspective made the peception almost impossible.
Ditto automobiles and their social role, naturally."

Louis Proyect

(http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)






Comment on Jewish Art, Jewish Politics

1998-05-05 Thread Louis Proyect

(posted originally on apst newsgroup)

As both a Jewish artist and communist, I wanted to throw in a few words on
Proyect's comments on  the Jewish cultural and political scene.

My band has performed on one of John Zorn's "Radical Jewish Culture"
Festivals at the Knitting Factory.  And in case anyone wants to romanticize
the Knit, it is run by a typically scummy club owner (Jewish to boot), who
happens to be a bit more hip than many of the other club owners in town.

I think what Zorn is doing, and the revival of Klezmer music is a fine
thing.  However, Proyect romanticizes this cultural trend and the supposed
political awakening among younger Jews that goes along with it.  Another
element of what is going on in this current is the revival of Yiddish and
Yiddish art forms.

Many of my arguments are based on Isaac Deutscher, so anyone interested
should read "The Non-Jewish Jew and Other Essays."  Deutscher noted that
the Yiddish cultural movement in Poland was particularly tied in with
working class political currents, particularly the Bund.  He argued that
any attempt to transplant that movement into the US would fail because the
social conditions, particularly the segregation of Jews, were completely
different than in Poland.

Since Deutscher's time, this is even more true.  One could argue that there
was a social basis for a Jewish cultural movement in the '20s and '30s,
because there was in fact a mass Jewish working class.  However, social
mobility has erased the working class base which the Bund, Forward and
other Jewish leftist organizations were based on, leaving them with merely
cultural projects - Jewish cult/nats, if you will.

This is the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Jewish Bund, so there
is quite a bit of nostalgia.  But it is merely that.  For all its faults,
the Bund was staunchly anti-Zionist.  All the present-day Bundist types
criticize the Zionists for is that they don't believe that Jews of the
Diaspora have any role.  They hardly ever level even tepid attacks on the
policies of the Zionist state.  If they do, it is only to support the
"Labor" Party.

Proyect says:

Perhaps the recent awakening in Jewish culture and the left-wing politics
of previous generations will reach a whole new generation of Jews. The
Israeli state has long ceased to act as a pole of attraction. 

He is deluding himself.  Zionism  is as strong as ever.  Even in the
supposedly "progressive" Jewish milieu, it is still taboo to be staunchly
anti-Zionist.  If there is hope for younger radical Jews, it is in
revolutionary Trotskyism and socialist revolution, not in some warmed-over
revival of Bundism/Jewish cultural nationalism.

Jeffrey Schanzer 

Louis Proyect

(http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)





[no comment]

1998-04-18 Thread Thomas Kruse

Clinton Honors Chile's Restored Democracy 
By Thomas W. Lippman Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 18, 1998; Page A16

[snip]

Clinton, accompanied by first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of
State Madeleine K. Albright and senior White House officials, was effusively
welcomed by Senate President Andres Zaldivar Larrain and his applauding
colleagues.

"Nothing was unhappier for our people than the interruption of democracy,"
Zaldivar said, "and nothing more gratifying than its restoration." He
thanked the United States for its "support in those difficult moments."

Tom Kruse / Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia
Tel/Fax: (591-42) 48242
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Greenspan's comment

1998-01-30 Thread Sid Shniad

Hey, Doug -- "consulting" is an integral part of the workings of the free 
market, isn't it? If your clients are big enough, you needn't worry about 
being held accountable for the quality of your work.

Sid

  Sid Shniad wrote:
 
 I'm surprised he's that frank. ;-)
 
 Sid
 
  10:32   GREENSPAN: SAYS MODEL OF US SL SITUATION APPLICABLE TO ASIA.
 
 I wonder if he's including events like his letter swearing that Charles
 Keating was an honest guy and a good banker, for which he was reportedly
 paid $20,000. That's not unlike the authorities' seal of approval given
 Indonesia and Thailand as the foreign capital was flowing in.
 
 Doug
 
 
 
 





Greenspan's comment

1998-01-29 Thread Sid Shniad

I'm surprised he's that frank. ;-)

Sid
 
 10:32   GREENSPAN: SAYS MODEL OF US SL SITUATION APPLICABLE TO ASIA. 
 




No comment

1998-01-28 Thread Sid Shniad

Reuters January 28, 1998

POPE HOPES FOR POLISH-STYLE CHANGE IN CUBA

By Philip Pullella 

VATICAN CITY - Pope John Paul said Wednesday he hopes his recent 
visit to Cuba will bear fruit similar to his 1979 trip to Poland when he 
helped influence events that led to the fall of communism in his homeland. 
"My visit to Cuba reminded me a lot of my first visit to Poland in 
1979," the Pope, speaking in Polish, said at his weekly general audience. 
"I hope for my brothers and sisters on that beautiful island that the 
fruits of this pilgrimage will be similar to the fruits of that pilgrimage to 
Poland," he added. 
Historians credit the Pope's first visit home a year after his election 
in 1978 with injecting Poles with the courage to form the Solidarity free 
trade union. Nine years later, it was the Pope's homeland that began the 
domino effect that toppled communism in Eastern Europe. 
During the historic five-day trip, which ended Sunday, the Pope 
brought an unprecedented whiff of freedom to Cuba. 
He defended human rights, criticized Cuba's one-party system, 
called for greater freedom for the Catholic Church and drew attention to 
the plight of political prisoners. 
In his main address, read in Italian, he said the trip was a "great 
event" of spiritual, cultural and social reconciliation. 
The Pope also said the trip showed that the island's culture had 
remained at heart Christian despite four decades of Marxism. 
"The pastoral visit was a great event of spiritual, cultural and social 
reconciliation that will not fail to produce beneficial fruits on other levels," 
the 77-year-old Pope said. 
"It must be recognized that this visit took on an important symbolic 
value because of the unique position Cuba has had in this century's 
history," he said. 
The Pontiff also several times condemned the U.S. economic 
embargo against the island but said Cubans could not blame it for all their 
problems. 
He told the pilgrims he was happy to have been able to preach the 
Gospel there, giving Cubans "a message of love and true freedom," and 
thanked President Fidel Castro for making the trip possible. 
Recalling his address at Havana University, the Pope said Cuban 
culture had undergone many influences in the five centuries since 
Christopher Columbus discovered it, including four decades of "Marxist 
materialistic and atheist ideology." 
"Deep down, however, it (Cuban culture)...has remained intimately 
marked by Christian inspiration, as shown by the numerous men of Catholic 
culture throughout its history," he said. "The Papal visit gave voice to the 
Christian soul of the Cuban people." 
"I am convinced that this Christian soul is for Cubans the most 
precious treasure and the surest guarantee of integral development marked 
by authentic freedom and peace," he said. 
Hundreds of thousands of Cubans attended the Pope's four open-air 
Masses, which were transmitted live on state-run television -- a first for 
religious events. 




Re: No comment

1998-01-25 Thread maxsaw

 Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
 
 Tom, there has been a lot of talk about this odd coalition against US
 participation in the IMF bail-out of South Korea, Indonesia, etc. Aside
 from labor dinosaurs and eco-freaks, so rudely brushed aside by Rubin, who
 are some of the powerful members this odd coalition? What are they so
 angry about?
 
 The "eco freaks" include quite a few mainstream organizations, who used to
 be pro-NAFTA. The "labor dinosaurs" probably wouldn't take this position;
 it's New Labor, whose days may be numbered, that's taking it. There are
 about 50 members of the Congressional "progressive" (or in Alex Cockburn's
 word, pwogwessive) caucus.And don't forget the right-wing Republican
 back-benchers. All of them agree that this is a bailout of irresponsible
 financiers at the expense of people who work for a living. Didn't Max
 Sawicky say the other day that only 1/3 of Congress is behind the $18
 billion IMF appropriation now?


Yes I said it.  I was relaying the view of an 
authoritative source who works on the Hill.  It's 
not a backbench thing.  It's a matter of the core 
political leadership of the nation, or the real 
'executive committee of the capitalist class' -- 
the Administration (as of two weeks ago, at 
least) and Gingrich's cabal -- having the burden 
of selling the bailout to a dubious Congress 
which has no compelling reason to support it and 
a good many to oppose it.

I would suggest this underlines the fundamentally 
representative nature of U.S. democracy, deformed 
though it is by the inordinate influence of 
capital.

"Labor dinosaurs" and "eco-freaks"?  I don't know 
whether to run out of my house screaming or 
transmit RB's address to the Unabomber.

Politics is an interesting and important subject. 
I would commend it to you all.  The " 
for Dummies" books seem to be quite popular.

MBS


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Re: No comment

1998-01-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari



On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Tom Walker wrote:

 11:18 W. HOUSE OFFICIAL DENIES MARKET RUMOR OF TREASURY'S RUBIN TO RESIGN. 
 
Tom, there has been a lot of talk about this odd coalition against US
participation in the IMF bail-out of South Korea, Indonesia, etc. Aside
from labor dinosaurs and eco-freaks, so rudely brushed aside by Rubin, who
are some of the powerful members this odd coalition? What are they so
angry about? 
Rakesh





Re: No comment

1998-01-23 Thread Doug Henwood

Rakesh Bhandari wrote:

Tom, there has been a lot of talk about this odd coalition against US
participation in the IMF bail-out of South Korea, Indonesia, etc. Aside
from labor dinosaurs and eco-freaks, so rudely brushed aside by Rubin, who
are some of the powerful members this odd coalition? What are they so
angry about?

The "eco freaks" include quite a few mainstream organizations, who used to
be pro-NAFTA. The "labor dinosaurs" probably wouldn't take this position;
it's New Labor, whose days may be numbered, that's taking it. There are
about 50 members of the Congressional "progressive" (or in Alex Cockburn's
word, pwogwessive) caucus.And don't forget the right-wing Republican
back-benchers. All of them agree that this is a bailout of irresponsible
financiers at the expense of people who work for a living. Didn't Max
Sawicky say the other day that only 1/3 of Congress is behind the $18
billion IMF appropriation now?

Doug






No comment

1998-01-23 Thread Tom Walker

11:18 W. HOUSE OFFICIAL DENIES MARKET RUMOR OF TREASURY'S RUBIN TO RESIGN. 

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Re: Final Comment

1998-01-12 Thread R. Anders Schneiderman

At 03:21 PM 1/9/98 PST8PDT, Jim wrote:
 Surely nobody disagrees with the idea that sex-slavery or underage
 prostitution is wrong. The sex-workers comments were not aimed at
 coerced or non-consensual prostitution, but at prostitutes who bject to
 being criminalised in the name of saving their honour.
 James Heartfield
 [ Jim replies with examples of stupid statements by Milton Friedman ]
...
Capitalism produces a whole host of slick facades to "show" that 
choices are indeed free choices or if they are even "constrained 
choices", we are all constrained and they are choices nontheless.
But the reality is that what appears to be "consensual" is the 
"consent" given when the alternative is not simply less money but 
rather no money; the "consent" given when the alternative is not 
simply less comfortable shelter but rather no shelter; the "consent"
given when the alternative is a slow and horrible death.

Jim, in case you've forgotten what list you're on, this is the Progressive
Economists list, not the NeoClassical Economists list.  Nobody on this
list--including the two prostitutes who chimed in--is saying or even
implying that prostitution is "consensual" when the choice is turning
tricks vs. starvation, or letting one's family starve.  Nobody.  Honest.

Surely criminalization of prostitution will not solve anything and 
surely criminalization leads to more underground activity and makes 
it more difficult to control the disease trends. But the sanitized 
brothels of Nevada and Canberra are light years away from the 
brothels of Patpong, the conditions of young Indian prostitutes in 
Great Falls or the conditions of a highway prostitute servicing long-
distance truck dirvers in India. And those, especially on the left 
and even call themselves leftists, and then talk about "free choice", 
or "free consent" or "consenual prostitution" under capitalism 
and based on the isolated and perhaps self-serving or perhaps even 
self-rationalizing rantings of a few white middle-class "high-class" 
hookers in Canberra, well there is a party available for your 
political action--the RIGHT-WING libertarian party.

Again, who do you think you're arguing with?  It's hard to imagine that in
a country like, for ex, Thailand you could meaningfully talk about
"consensual prostitution" when the alternatives to prostitution are awful,
scarce, or nonexistant.  But what does that have to do with prostitution in
other regions of capitalism?

I met a few Coyote activists when I was working at the Berkeley Free
Clinic, and they really changed the way I think about prostitution.  In my
heart, I don't how someone can actually want to sell sex for a living if
they've got any alternatives, but the women I met from Coyote said they
genuinely preferred being a hooker to being a waitress, a secretary, or
most of the other working class jobs that were available to them.  At one
point, I did ask, "would you want your daughter to become a hooker?"  One
said yes, the other said, "no, but I wouldn't want her to have to be a
secretary or a waitress either, and I definitely wouldn't want her to be a
housewife in a fucked-up marriage like I was; I want her to get an
education and move up."  Their goal wasn't just to legalize prostitution
and improve working conditions for hookers but to improve the situation for
all women, so that no women would end up becoming a prostitute because they
felt they didn't have an alternative.

If you want, you can treat the Coyote activists I met as suffering from
false consciousness, or you can class-bait them as just speaking for 'a few
white middle-class "high-class" hookers.'  That seems to me like a pretty
simple-minded way of dealing with a complicated issue.  Like I said, I have
trouble imagining turning tricks as feeling anything other than degrading,
but what the hell do I know?  There are lots of people who have sex lives
that seem degrading to me, but they don't seem to be any less happy or more
messed up than the rest of us.  Would any of this still exist under
Socialism?  Who knows?

Nobody on this side of the table is arguing in favor of putting people in
situations where they choose to do things that feel completely and utterly
degrading in the way that forcing someone to perform sex for money
can--that amounts to contractual rape.  Nobody here is saying that having
the IMF include legalizing prostitution as part of their economic agenda
for destabilized East Asian countries is something we should push for
(although I'm sure someone will suggest it in the WSJ op-ed pages).  All
we're saying is, it doesn't make sense to argue that prostitution is
inherently degrading when there are more than a few prostitutes who say
that they don't experience it that way.  Putting women in economic
situations which they perceive as degrading, whether it's prostitution or
marriage, is evil.  But arguing that all true lefties have to see sex the
same way is little more than political correctness dressed up in 

Re: Final Comment

1998-01-10 Thread James Heartfield

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Michael Craven
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Capitalism produces a whole host of slick facades to "show" that 
choices are indeed free choices or if they are even "constrained 
choices", we are all constrained and they are choices nontheless.
But the reality is that what appears to be "consensual" is the 
"consent" given when the alternative is not simply less money but 
rather no money; the "consent" given when the alternative is not 
simply less comfortable shelter but rather no shelter; the "consent"
given when the alternative is a slow and horrible death.

This is all very well, but you seem to be arguing that there is no
difference between wage slavery and slavery, or between adulthood and
childhood.

To argue that the power of capital is coercive surely does not mean that
we might as wll be slaves, does it?
-- 
James Heartfield




Re: Final Comment

1998-01-09 Thread James Heartfield

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Michael Craven
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
But just as these privileged few don't speak for 
me (also one of the "privileged few" in relative terms) and certainly
do not speak for the part-time teachers or the grounds keepers, so no 
hooker from Canberra can speak for all "sex workers"--like a teenage 
Blackfeet girl in Great Falls or a sex slave in Patpong--just because 
she is doing tricks and is a self-proclaimed "activist" for sex 
workers.

Surely nobody disagrees with the idea that sex-slavery or underage
prostitution is wrong. The sex-workers comments were not aimed at
coerced or non-consensual prostitution, but at prostitutes who bject to
being criminalised in the name of saving their honour.

Fraternally
-- 
James Heartfield




Final Comment

1998-01-09 Thread James Michael Craven

I lived in Puerto Rico 1983-86 and worked as a Senior Planner for the 
Planning Board of the Office of the Governor of P.R. My original 
assignment was to work as a project leader restructuring and 
examining the input-output system used for planning and forecasting 
estimates.

After some time I was asked to design and carry out an "inductive" 
(adductive) study of the linkages, leakages and dimensions of aspects 
of the underground economy of P.R. (Drugs, Prostitution, Bolitos 
(numbers rackets) with reference to the probable effects on leakages 
from final demand (and the interactive effects through cells of the 
input-output matrices). Because P.R. is relatively small in area and 
because the induced investment/profit imperative mechanisms of 
capitalism lead to spatial agglomerations of investment, jobs, 
incomes and also those involved in underground activities, and 
because the hypothetico-deductivist scenarios for estimating 
dimensions, linkages, leakages of underground activities yielded 
nothing but indeterminate scenarios (scenarios built upon/derived 
from other scenarios...), it was thought that some filed study 
(bottom-up) was needed. At the time almost 2/3 of the population of 
P.R. was on pagos transferencias (some form of transfer payments), 
there were emerging incidences of AIDS in San Juan and other factors 
lead to this work being commissioned.

I was tasked with working with D.E.A., PR Police (Control de Vicio), 
FBI, Treasury, IRS and anyone else from which I could obtain 
informant reports, locations/agglomerations of underground activities.
Before I accepted the assignment, I demanded and got assurance that I 
could work in the field without any police or police informants 
working with me and that I would not under any circumstances identify 
or assist in the identification/apprehension of any sources. I worked 
almost exclusively in Spanish language and was turned loose.

Through some political contacts (I was a supporter of the 
Independentistas and curiously the government knew it) I 
progressively made more and more contacts with prostitutes (in 
brothels like the Black Angus--not Stewart Anderson's--in San Juan, 
and others in Ponce, Mayaguez, Arecibo, Aguadilla etc as well as with 
street prostitutes etc.) I took special care to make sure I was not 
followed or observed by any police informants.

I was interested in such factors as national origin, length of time 
in P.R., plans to leave P.R., average income, rental and other 
expenses, living arrangements, percentage of income sent to relatives 
outside P.R., arrangements with pimps, buying habits, drug habits, 
reasons for entering prostitution, any plans to leave it, other 
illegal activities involved with etc.

I offered to pay for time spent and on off time so that the people 
would not suffer loss of income; interestingly very few wanted money 
for interview time and more and more would come after fellow sex 
workers would tell them that I could be trusted, wasn't interested in 
laying any kind of morality trip on anyone; for many they expressed 
that it was a kind of catharsis talking about their lives, dreams, 
conditions of work etc. Some with whom I talked were indeed schooled 
and some were students at U.P.R. or Interamerican. I also talked with 
male prostitutes some of whom were 14 and 15 years old.

The vast majority of sex workers with whom I dealt were poor 
Dominicanas, Haitians, Columbianas, Cubans (only about 20% of the 
prostututes in P.R. were Puerto Rican). And yes I found many who 
wanted it legalized but when I asked if prostitution were legalized, 
and if social attitudes changed such that prostitution were seen as 
just another kind of work, would they have any objection to their 
sons or daughters going into the business, not one said they would 
have no objection--every single one with children or plans to have 
children said they were working so that their children would not have 
to do what they were doing. I did ask if the work was seen to be 
degrading because of social attitudes and if producing sex services 
could be seen as no different than producing any other kind of 
service if only society's--and the individual prostitute's--attitudes 
toward sex and morality would change and in virtually every case, or 
almost every case the response was "you just don't know what it is 
like to have some stranger huffing and puffing over you, playing 
domination games, asking if you have a young daugter under 14 and 
offering an extra bonus to fuck her, doing you with no regard or care 
as to how you feel about the act itself." (Some of the types of 
comments I used to get). I would hear stories about being set up for 
gang rape, about being beat out of the meagre money and about John's 
who would offer extra NOT to use a condom. 

And this debate is not new to me. I have known about COYOTE and other 
such groups for a long time; I read some of their stuff. So I would 
ask: If prostitution were 

Re: dead girls in China--comment

1997-11-05 Thread JayHecht

In a message dated 97-11-05 01:35:48 EST, you write:

 
 4.  The 'non-reporting' does not hold water, especially since the ratio of
 boys as a majority over girls widens with age AND, there's just all those
 pesky little corpses. 

Excellent point  Amen.

This whole business is psychopathic and frightening!  For those of us with
young daughters (born exactly during this period) it is profoundly sad and
tragic.  Sure "every dad wants a son," but that's not the way reproduction
works! All the X-Y combinations are due to the male!  Finally, having
assisted in the birth of both of my children - it is beyond me to understand
how a parent could their kids.  Without being sappy or sentimental, the plain
fact is that you've got to have a total absence of humanity to carry this
out.  There is something profoundly wrong in China!!

Jason
 










Re: dead girls in China--comment

1997-11-05 Thread Tom Walker

Jason Hecht wrote,

Without being sappy or sentimental, the plain
fact is that you've got to have a total absence of humanity to carry this
out.  There is something profoundly wrong in China!!

The plain fact is that only a "total absence of humanity" can explain much
of history. 

Regards, 

Tom Walker
^^^
knoW Ware Communications
Vancouver, B.C., CANADA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(604) 688-8296 
^^^
The TimeWork Web: http://www.vcn.bc.ca/timework/






Re: dead girls in China--comment

1997-11-04 Thread MScoleman

In a message dated 97-11-04 00:21:15 EST,[ several people have self
righteously said more or less the following]:
I understand that most of the gap in the number of girls as opposed to
boys in China is due to *under-reporting* of girls rather than female
infanticide. If the first born is a girl, if she is not reported a second
child may be the desired boy. China's one child rule is a reactionary
measure, but one-sided reports are no better.

1.  The Chinese government now admits that infanticide of girls is a problem
and an unwanted side effect of the one child policy (this was in the last
paragraph of the article and has been admitted officially by the Chinese for
the last year or so).

2.  This information came from census data collected and released by the
Chinese government.

3.  I fail to see why 'not admitting' that you've had a girl is any better
than infanticide in the long run.  Think about it for a minute, if you don't
admit you have the child, she can't get medical care, can't go to school,
can't be included in child benefits of any kind.  But then perhaps the
proponents of not admitting there are girls feel this is o.k., after all, do
you also think uneducated baby makers in the kitchen are the best women?
(sarcasm absolutely intended)

4.  The 'non-reporting' does not hold water, especially since the ratio of
boys as a majority over girls widens with age AND, there's just all those
pesky little corpses.

5.  If the ratios were the other way around, I'd bet you guys would be out
there screaming your heads off.  What a few girls amongst all you self
righteous revolutionaries, eh?

This is what I love about this list, paraphrasing Lenin, 'scratch a
revolutionary, and you'll find a man antagonistic to women'.  In fact, if I
have time sometime soon, I think I find the exact quote and engrave it on my
ass -- just to remind myself that I'm a fucking idiot to stay subscribed to
this list anyhow.

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  





[PEN-L:9645] Brief Comment on Civil Society

1997-04-24 Thread ZAHNISER STEVEN SCOTT


With respect to Mexico, newspaper columnist Luis Javier Garrido frequently
poses the efforts to bring democracy to Mexico as a struggle between civil
society and the PRI-government.

Steven Zahniser
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[PEN-L:8101] FAIR comment on the Contra story

1997-01-06 Thread D Shniad

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:59:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Recipients of fair-l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Coverage of Contra-Crack

From: Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FAIR Press Release   December 18, 1996
 
NEW REPORT BLASTS MEDIA COVERAGE OF CONTRA-CRACK STORY
 
A national media watch group today released a report highly
critical of major media reaction to the San Jose Mercury News
series linking the CIA-backed Nicaraguan contras to the spread of
crack cocaine in urban America.
 
The report, to be published next month by FAIR (Fairness  Accuracy
In Reporting), focuses on three newspapers - the Washington Post,
New York Times and Los Angeles Times - which have printed lengthy
articles attacking the Mercury News series.
 
Noting that the assessments by those three newspapers are "still
reverberating in the national media's echo chamber," FAIR's report
faults the papers for heavy reliance on official sources inside the
CIA and other agencies with vested interests in undercutting the
Mercury News accounts. FAIR's report (to be published in the
Jan./Feb. 1997 EXTRA!) also highlights a history of national media
suppression and marginalization of the contra-cocaine story in the
1980s.
 
* FAIR's researchers found that Mercury News reporter Gary Webb was
frequently assailed for failing to prove what he had never claimed
in the first place. The report points out that Webb's series did
not assert the CIA was guilty of dealing crack in U.S. inner
cities.  Some of the attacks harped on "what Webb had already
acknowledged in his articles - that  while he proves contra links
to major cocaine importation, he can't identify specific CIA
officials who knew of or condoned the trafficking." 
 
* "Journalistic critics of the Mercury News offered little to rebut
the paper's specific pieces of evidence" - including  testimony and
law enforcement documents and comments - indicating that a pair of
Nicaraguan cocaine traffickers "may have been protected by federal
agents."
 
* Although the Washington Post in particular took issue with the
Mercury News for referring to the Nicaraguan contras as "the CIA's
army," the FAIR report describes use of the phrase as "solid
journalism" that highlights a relationship "fundamentally relevant
to the story. The army was formed at the instigation of the CIA,
its leaders were selected by and received salaries from the agency,
and CIA officers controlled day-to-day battlefield strategies." The
report criticizes what it calls a "newsroom culture of denial" that
dodged such historical realities.
 
* The Los Angeles Times joined the other two dailies in downplaying
the importance of crack dealer Ricky Ross, who was supplied by a
pair of Nicaraguan cocaine smugglers linked to the Contras. Yet two
years ago (12/20/94), the Los Angeles Times described Ross as the
"king  of  crack" whose "coast-to-coast conglomerate" was
responsible for "a staggering turnover that  put  the drug within
reach of anyone with a few dollars."  FAIR's report notes that the
L.A. Times reversal on Ross "reads like a show-trial
recantation."  
 
* Depictions of African-Americans as prone to paranoia "quickly
became a stylish media fixation," the report charged.  "This theme
of black paranoia accompanied all three of the major papers'
attacks on the Mercury News series."  Ironically, FAIR concluded,
top editors at the Washington Post, New York Times and L.A. Times
ended up ignoring evidence that did not fit their preconceived
outlook - "the true mark of the delusional mindset."
 
* The FAIR report concludes that the high-profile attacks on the
Mercury News by the New York Times, Washington Post and L.A. Times
"were clearly driven by a need to defend their shoddy record on the
contra-cocaine story - involving a decade-long suppression of
evidence." In recent months, those papers have promoted "the notion
that contra participation in drug trafficking is old news - a
particularly ironic claim coming from newspapers that went out of
their way to ignore or disparage key information during the 1980s." 
(The obstruction of a 1987 report on  contra-cocaine links by Time
magazine is also noted.)
 
The full report will be available on FAIR's web page: www.fair.org/fair
***
To subscribe to FAIR's magazine, EXTRA!, call 800-847-3993 during
East coast business hours.







[PEN-L:3020] Silly Comment Re: Barnes, Noble consumer choice

1996-02-15 Thread ZAHNISER STEVEN SCOTT



On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Rhon Baiman wrote:

   It was the NY Times a while back maybe a few months I think.
   Isn't Literature/knowledge a business too?

In academics,

Knowledge is our business.

Still giggly after running,

Steven Zahniser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:132] Re: comment

1995-08-10 Thread jtreacy

Treacy: "Death Ain't Got Any Mercy" an old blues song sung by J. Garcia. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] COPYRIGHTED 

On Wed, 9 Aug 1995, James Devine wrote:

 "what a long, strange, trip it's been." 
 -- J. Garcia, recently deceased.
 
 sincerely,
 
 Jim Devine  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Los Angeles, CA (the city of your future: the modern home of slavery)
 
 



[PEN-L:125] comment

1995-08-09 Thread James Devine

"what a long, strange, trip it's been." 
-- J. Garcia, recently deceased.

sincerely,

Jim Devine  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Los Angeles, CA (the city of your future: the modern home of slavery)



[PEN-L:127] Meeropols comment on Venona documents

1995-08-09 Thread Blair Sandler

I've been asked to forward this to the list. I haven't seen it
here yet, thought it might be of interest.

Blair Sandler

  PLEASE NOTE:  THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT WAS ISSUED BY ROBERT
AND
  MICHAEL MEEROPOL, SONS OF JULIUS AND ETHEL ROSENBERG, AS AN
INITAL
  REACTION TO THE RELEASE BY THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY OF
THE
  "VENONA" DOCUMENTS PURPORTING TO PROVE THAT THEIR PARENTS
WERE
  INDEED SOVIET SPIES.  THE STATEMENT WAS ISSUED JULY 17 and AS
FAR
  AS WE KNOW, HAS NOT BEEN REPORTED BY THE MAINSTREAM PRESS.
 
  ROSENBERG FUND FOR CHILDREN
  1145 Main Street
  Suite 408
  Springfield, Ma. 01103
  )413) 739 - 9020
  FAX: (413) 746-5767
 
  Contact numbers(s) above.
 
  RELEASED "VENONA" DOCUMENTS DEMONSTRATE GOVERNMENT DUPLICITY.
 
   Nothing in the 49 VENONA documents released by the
National
  Security AGency and the CIA (The Agencies) on July 11 cause
us to
  alter our positions that:  1. our parents Ethel and Julius
  Rosenberg were not guilty as charged; 2. their conviction was
based
  upon perjured testimony and fabricated evidence; 3. that
government
  agents and agencies orchestrated our parents' frame-up which
  resulted in their execution.
 
   We have sought the release of these documents sicne
1975.  The
  Agencies explanation that they were not used at our parents'
trial
  for national security reasons does not explain why they have
  refused to release them to us for the last 20 years.  It is
much
  more plausible that the documents were only released now
because
  they prove nothing and do not helpt justify our parents'
execution.
 
   The documents' nature and contents explain why The
Agencies
  kept them secret for over 40 years.  The Agences have
released no
  physical evidence to support their claims. The public is
asked to
  accept just upon their say so that the documents really are
  translations ofr encrypted Soviet diplomatic communications
that
  the translations faithfull reflect those communications, and
that
  the individuals referred to in code n the documents are the
people
  The Agencies say they are.  None of this should be taken for
  granted.  The Agencies are some of the major architects of
our
  parents' legally sanctioned murder and so have a tremendous
stake
  in justifying their execution.
 
   The booklet The Agences released to "explain" the
documents
  ("Introductory History of VENONA and Guide to the
Trnaslations),
  demonstrates that they have even lied about the contents of
these
  documents in this carefully staged effort to misinform the
public.
  For example the following statements appear on page 10 of the
  Guide:
 
   "These messages disclose some of the clandestine
activities of
   Julius and _Ethel Rosenberg_ ..." and "KGB officer
Leonid
   Kvasnikov ... like the Rosenberg_s_ ... had many other
high-tech
   espionage targets..." (emphasis added)
 
   Our mother is barely mentioned in the 49 documents The
  Agencies claim are KGB transmissions, and nowhere in them is
it
  stated that she engaged in clandestine activities.  The major
  reference to her states:  "Knows about her husband's work and
the
  role of METR and NIL.  In view of delicate health does not
work.
  Is characterized positively and as a devoted person."
 
   Our father's name never appears in any of the documents.
 
   The Agencies would have us believe that they identified
many
  spies long before our parents' arrests and did nothing about
it but
  give the FBI a few tips while the vast majority of them
either
  disappeared or were never prosecuted.  They can not explian
why
  neither the CIA nor the FBI acted as if it had this
information
  prior to our parents' arrests.  Therefore, we suspect that
The
  Agencies "cooked" whatever information they had after the
arrests
  and trial to bolster the government's scenario.  While we
can't
  prove this, The Agencies certainly had the motive, means and
  opportunity to do so.  This helps explain why the "Guide" is
so
  vague about the timing of the "decoding" of these
"transmissions."
 
   The Federal Judiciary, the FBI, the Departmnet of
Justice, the
  CIA and other government agencies ahve engaged in a course of
  misconduct concerning our parents' case for over 40 years.
Unlike
  the Agencies, we, as private citizens have not had the media
access
  necessary to present our side.
 
  FOR MORE INFORMATION, contact:  Robert Meeropol:  413 - 739 -
9020.
 
 --
 Mike Meeropol
 Economics Department
 Cultures Past and Present Program
 Western New England College
 Springfield, Massachusetts
 "Don't blame us, we voted for George McGovern!"
 Unrepentent Leftist!!
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[PEN-L:5565] Re: Ajit's comment to Gil

1995-06-19 Thread Mike Parkhurst


Mike Meeropol wonders:

But the average student that I've taught has bought the "anyone can make it"
ideology lock, stock 'n' barrel!

I can't believe it's that bad at state supported institutions where there's
more solidly working-class students.  At least I hope not!

Um... I'm afraid you're neglecting the gigantic increases in the costs of so-
called 'state-supported' institutions.  Maybe it's different elsewhere, but
I'm not sure I'd call UMass a 'working class' anything at this point.

But you're basic point is well-taken.  

It occurs to me that one of the un-fortunate consequences of the passing of 
generations who lived through the Great Depression is that Americans have 
forgotten what was painfully obvious in the 30s:  that capitalism can't employ
everybody, that left to its own devices it's prone to self-destruct, and that
many people are ruined through no fault of their own by the workings of the
economy.


yours,

--Mike Parkhurst
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:5533] Re: Ajit's comment to Gil

1995-06-15 Thread Mike Meeropol

DOLE SAID:

 1) "Politics of class war"  As in, Clinton's intention to avoid 
 [further] tax cuts for the rich to go with tax cuts for the middle 
 class promotes the politics of class warfare, which we 
 statespersonlike Republicans wish to avoid...
 
GIL TRANSLATED:

 Translation:  yeah, we know that the very richest got obscenely 
 richer, and the poor poorer, during the Reagan-Bush era (in 
 significant part due to Reagan's tax "reforms"), and that the US has 
 the most unequal income and wealth distributions of all developed 
 countries.  But that's fine with us, so let's not talk about it 
 anymore.
 _

AJIT OFFERS OTHER TRANSLATION!__
 No Gil! I think he means "that's why we call it America", and he wants you to
 be proud of it. America is for the people who want to "make it" so why tax them
 when they make it. Tax the poor who betrayed the "American dream". There is no
 class war fare, life is a race in which some win and some lose. And the loser
 should be appropriately punished.

Having taught about poverty and income redistribution for over 24 years in a
college where the students are for the most part children of working class
people with "climbing" aspirations (it's a private college), I can't stress
enough how pervasive is the view that "you can make it if you try" and
anyone who's poor is probably too lazy or too dumb to have "made it."

There is a PERVERSE class consciousness that would have done any Victorian
proud --- success proves worthiness!!  They may grudgingly support giving
money to poor people who REALLY need it (and are "trying") but for the most
part they have REALLY bought the 'blaming the victim' arguments.

Part of the skewed nature of my sample is that my school is virtually
lilly-white.  AFrican American students are much more sensitive to the
possibility that some people have the cards stacked against them.

But the average student that I've taught has bought the "anyone can make it"
ideology lock, stock 'n' barrel!

I can't believe it's that bad at state supported institutions where there's
more solidly working-class students.  At least I hope not!

Mike


-- 
Mike Meeropol
Economics Department
Cultures Past and Present Program
Western New England College
Springfield, Massachusetts
"Don't blame us, we voted for George McGovern!"
Unrepentent Leftist!!
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[PEN-L:3938] Comment on NAFTA

1995-01-25 Thread David Barkin

Friends:  I sent this to the Boston Globe which rejected it;
perhaps you will find it of interest
An Alternative Vision of Mexican Development

David Barkin*

As a Mexican academic, temporarily in Cambridge, I am gratified by
the excellent coverage that the Boston Globe has been giving to
crisis in Mexico.  Your stories offer superb coverage of the
tragic consequences of more than a decade of mistakes in
management by a team of skilled  economists.  These
highly-educated and highly-placed technocrats, as they are
labeled, have fallen into the trap of transforming dogma into
science, an error that others before them also committed, with
similar results: Mexico's peasants and working classes endure
declining real incomes and a deteriorating quality of life, while
the economy is becoming less capable of supplying the basic needs
of our people. Today, the purchasing power of the average wage is
less than one-half what it was in 1976 and more than two-thirds of
the households have incomes below the nation's poverty level.

For the last few years, the pundits have been proclaiming Mexico
as the great success story of globalization. Increasing exports
and declining reliance on petroleum were said to be indicators of
progress, while we were assured that exploding imports
strengthened the nation's productive capacity. The virtual flood
of foreign capital offered an opportunity for a small elite to
enrich itself through speculation and manipulation of the stock
market, and for the government to postpone the day of reckoning by
offering juicy returns to well remunerated money managers in the
world's financial centers.  The pundits are now pompously
asserting the inevitability of present problems. They are just as
audacious in recommending caution today as they were in urging
investors into the heady waters of international finance in
yesterday's markets.

The huge devaluation of the peso will lead to substantial
inflation in Mexico, as your reporters have noted, and prices of
imported goods will rise quickly and dramatically.  Changes of
recent years led to a massive displacement of local production by
imported goods. Years ago, the technocrats decided that Mexico's
peasants and indigenous population were not only too independent
but also very inefficient; they had to be removed from the
countryside to "free" them from their traditional communities,
putting their land at the disposition of more resourceful social
groups and making them available for other tasks. Today, some of
the corn for our tortillas, milk products, and animal feed, to
name only a few essential items, are among the imported goods that
were formerly produced at home.

Similarly, small and medium sized industries were squeezed and
many forced to close.  The widely heralded trade "opening" led to
an avalanche of cheap imports, a costly and unsustainable way to
fight inflation and stimulate competition at the cost of domestic
industries and jobs; aggravating the problem, the banking system
was too busy fueling the speculative binge in the financial
markets to address the complex task of supporting and
strengthening the weakening industrial and agricultural base.

The bipartisan "rescue" package from the US does not address
Mexico's fundamental problems. By throwing "good money after bad",
the proposed bailout will only further deepen the crisis, by
raising the foreign debt and the cost of debt service. It will
offer a very small group of people in Mexico the opportunity to
continue to engage in financial acrobatics for personal gain. It
will also provide the necessary funds for important financial
groups in the US and elsewhere so that they can avoid the
embarrassment of paying the real cost of their ill-considered
investments: the guarantees will provide funds as a temporary
fillip to financial markets that will facilitate an orderly (and
profitable) redeployment of foreign assets.

The massive injection of new credits into Mexico will also reduce
pressures to face up to the urgent task of rebuilding capacity to
satisfy our basic needs. To undertake this alternative path, we
must mobilize people to plant crops and raise the animals needed
for work and food, while artisans and small-scale entrepreneurs
are encouraged to rebuild the myriad small industries and
workshops to produce other basic consumer goods. This is the only
way that we can defend our standard of living: by producing
products which create jobs and incomes so that people can buy
these products. This alternative cannot be undertaken without a
serious democratization of the political arena.

In today's world, a strong domestic economy cannot be shaped in
isolation; but without explicit policies and resources to define
such an approach, international economic integration will surely
continue to exclude people from effective participation in
governance and erode their capacity to supply their own needs,
condemning them to a deteriorating quality of life.  This is not
an option which