Re: [RCSE] 6 volt battery for retreiver
Jim and Jim, Another thing you can do to slow or speed up the retriever is change the gearing ratio of the pulleys being used. The one I built was just fine for speed, it's the same the TPG uses, sized from the plans the designer sent me. Sal Peluseo. Jerry Miller Jim Monaco wrote: *Hi Jim – what I did for my Rahm retriever is get 2 big honking diodes from the surplus store and put them in series with the power line. This cuts the voltage down so the retriever runs nice on 12v. There are also cheaper alternatives, I think on RCGroups there was a discussion about using a home made resistor to do the same thing. All it was was a bottle with some lower gauge wire in it filled with water as a heat sink run inline with the power line.* * * *I hated getting and maintaining a separate 6v battery, plus if you used it up, there are generally no spares just laying around…* * * *I can give you pics of my setup if you want.* * * *FWIW - Jim* * * * * *From:* James MacLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:29 AM *To:* soaring@airage.com *Subject:* [RCSE] 6 volt battery for retreiver Hello All from stormy east coast of florida, I am looking for a model number and source for a 6 volt battery for our Rham retreiver. It should have about 50 to 60 amp hours of capacity. This will be a reasonable sized package - not too grunt heavy! Up to now I have been using three Trojan T-105 for the winch and retreiver but they are old and tired. Everyone else around here uses 12 volt winch batteries in parallel for various reasons. Charging is one of them. So I might follow suit but I need a smaller retreiver battery since I don't want to lug a T105 if not required! 12 volts makes the retreiver run too fast. The new fully automatic retreivers work very well but the club budget will not stand that this year. Any ideas? Somebody has to make a reasonable sized 6 volt battery larger than the 20 AH things for motorcycles. Thanks, Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Apology to Ben
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, I have to apologize for my rapid and quite offensive response to your post. I believe, as you do, that F3K/DLG is one of the most rapidly expanding forms of RC soaring, much like what park flyers and EPP did for the RC arena. The recognition of F3K and DLG is increasing as larger TD sites become unavailable in some localities. Chris, Quite big of you for the apology to Ben, thanks. But I have another bone for you, your statement about the back of the pack group is wrong. I personally believe that if you are not of the top 10 in ANY contest, your score/place is not note worthy to anyone other than a close friend and yourself, it is just background noise, to the masses of soaring. If you are an LSF member (other than yourself, as you are noted for that already-#8) you do collect points for contests as I think in the Canadian system, you do also. We all have our feelings, I guess yours was just hurt, and spoke out without thinking. And you may do that on RCSE, many do. Right or wrong. Good luck in all your tries in the future. Jerry Miller RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Ben Clerx on TV tonight
On the History Channel schedule for 10:00 PM Eastern tonight is UFO HUNTERS, that must be the one Larry is talking about. So for us west coasters, with DISH OR the other one, that would be 7:00 PM. Jerry Miller Medford, OR SOSS David Webb wrote: I can't find this content on the history channel web sitesomeone PVR this stuff for me! On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Joe Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I know why Ben has Tin Foil rolls and a Tin Foil hat (-: - Original Message - *From:* Lex Mierop mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Soaring@airage.com mailto:Soaring@airage.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:01 AM *Subject:* RE: [RCSE] Ben Clerx on TV tonight Larry, wouldn't that be his other, other, other thing? (World Recognized international F3J pilot, commercial airline pilot, Air Combat USA pilot and now UFO hunter) I'll be watching tonight! *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:00 AM *To:* Soaring@airage.com mailto:Soaring@airage.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* [RCSE] Ben Clerx on TV tonight So, I get home from going to a contest and I am a little tired because it was way out of town, actually about 8500 miles out of town. My body isn't sure where it is so I wake up and flip the TV on. Honestly who is walking straight towards me out of the TV is my flying buddy Ben Clerx. And I am confused because he doesn't have a chute in his hand. Apparently Our Friend Ben, is not only a World Recognized Intentional F3J Pilot, but in his spare time he is a well known UFO Hunter. Apparently Ben will do just about anything to raise those funds to go to Istanbul. So if you want to see Ben doing his other thing, he will be on the History Channels UFO Hunters tonight Wednesday. Apparently there is a side of Ben that his friends don't see where he isn't wearing that Floppy Gardening hat. If everything goes well and he gets a spin off sitcom, we may all see TV cameras at all of our large contests. Way to go Ben! LJ It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Masters
Larry, Mike and all, Mark Smith is one great guy. I had a few dealings with him when I lived in San Diego and was a member of TPG. Only thing I never got to see was him flying sailplanes, just building kits by the hundreds at his factory. He tried to do me a big favor once, just as I retired from the fire service in 1989, I was trying to make a cover for a fire truck model from a mold I had made, but it was not to be, it was something like a [canopy] but was too tall for the stretch in the vac machine at his factory. He tried at least 3 sheets of material and no charge. One other thing most of you probably don't know, I'm sure Larry does, Mark, many years ago was a member of TPG really promoted it and model soaring, when he retired to do business in a big way, he built a trophy for the TPG club to be a perpetual event every year for the outstanding member of the club for each year, and you can not ever win it more than once, that's about the only rule about it. It's called the MODELER OF THE YEAR AWARD and is voted on by all members in attendance at the annual meeting when officers are voted in. It is a spectacular trophy for anyone who is awarded it at home or at the office. I think Larry was awarded it once before I was in the TPG, not sure of that. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, I don't know if you ever saw Mark fly at the Anaheim Trade Shows. I was in High School at the time, and can remember Mark ending his Windfree Demo by diving at high speed, at a spot 4 feet in front of him. When the impact with his knees looked imminent, Mark would pull the Windfree in to a graceful loop and and finish by catching the model at waist height. I watched as many shows as I could, and can remember Mark closing the gap to where the aiming point moved to very nearly the tows of his sneakers. He would pull up in to a loop and lean back, one handing the Orbit tranny to his right side. One mistake and a certain trip to the reconstructive dentist would be a certainty. Mark is clever, with a wide range of interests. You don't have to chat with him long to realize that Mark is a guy that can really put Toy airplanes in to perspective. Thanks for talking him in to the Muncie Deal, I doubt We will get much sleep. Larry Working in Albuquerque this week, having dinner with Taylor Collins. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 5:13 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: Masters That's what I'm talking about. any other memories out there. Mark did comment to me something like damn, I guess it's gone full circle. I was one of the kids back then, now I'm an old fart Of course I reassured him that it was ok, since there are going to be a lot of old farts out there ;-) BTW, does 42 count as old? I am sure I could be considered by some to be a fart :-) Mike (wps) Smith, excuse me! Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Re: Masters From: David Register [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, September 07, 2006 1:34 pm To: Soaring@airage.com ** that I am not the only Smith on the Roster? Hope you guys remember Mark Smith. Mark's Models Dynaflight, previous National Champ, LSF No. 19.??? Ringing any bells out there? I am sure it is. ** Also developer of the 'kiss and click' spot landing. Back some 35 or so years ago when he was flying the Windfree in SoCal he worked out a way to get time and spots at landing. Grease that little beauty in a foot or so off the deck and at the exact time, kiss the nose off the grass (or dirt, or whatever), then bounce it back into the air and fly it into a perfect spot without having to worry about the time. No skids, skegs or anything. Just amazing coordination, timing and skill. First time I saw that maneuver I recall a bunch of guys all gaping and muttering 'did you see that...???'. Awesome list for Masters. Hope you guys have a great time. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format *Check out AOL.com today* http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
[RCSE] Another death of a soaring buddy
On Sunday Aug. 20, 2006 a well known soaring and flying friend here in Southern Oregon died from congestive heart failure, Mike Reed was also well known in the Corona area of Southern California. He was a former member of the ISR and ISS of So. Cal and was a member of SOSS in So. Oregon. He will be missed. R.I.P. Jerry Miller, Founder SOSS - Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Notes on the F3J WC (long and disorganized, part 1)
Joe, and all, It came thru here. Good story so far. Jerry Miller - SOSS Medford, OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what the story is. I've gotten emails from a few that read the post, and a few that say the email is empty. I suspect that I sent out a post that might have been too long. The post does appear on the Yahoo groups list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soaring/message/143768 Joe PS I've not written the 2nd part yet. Most likely will be tomorrow before I get to it. BTW, this email address is dead and I don't use it except to send email to RCSE, I've moved on to: joewurts at sbcglobal dot net. Darrell Zaballos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Joe did you forget to attach something to this email? DZ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:27 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Notes on the F3J WC (long and disorganized, part 1) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] First RC model
OK, I like the fact that there is a formal way to change the rules now. I did not know this had happened already, probably knew it, just in my furthering age, like many of us, forgot it. I really like it that the CD can amend the AMA rules for any contest he is running. Course I already knew that too. Ray Hayes has the right idea, and is doing it with the Wood Crafters 07 contest, if all contest directors would do this the rule could/might take care of itself. Come on Visalia, SC2, Phoniex, Mid-South, and Chicago land and Cleveland CD's amend your rules for these big contests, you have to do it when you submit your sanction request or if not a sanctioned contest, publish the amended rules anyway, especially if you require AMA member status for a contest. Jerry Miller, CD-LM SOSS-Medford, OR Ray Hayes wrote: Wood Crafters 07 will include a modified Nostalgia class, see the changes below. This has not been posted to the Wood Crafters page yet.Happy and safe 4th to everyone. Wood Crafters is dedicated to perpetuating the model builder, not the model buyer. If you didn't build it, you can't fly it, with the following exceptions: A one off built in the continental USA by a USA citizen you purchased. Construction rule: a.. All flying surfaces are built up from wood. b.. No restriction on spar construction or materials. c.. No Molded D-Tube leading edge construction. d.. Fuselage can be wood, glassed wood or molded Fiberglass. ___ Wood Crafters 07 Championship Contest will include a modified Nostalgia Class and 2M unl, RES 100, RES unl and Unlimited classes. Changes to the AMA Nostalgia rules include: * two size classes, 100 inch or less and unl. * Cutoff date moved forward to March 1981. * Signed declaration replaces kitted or published rule. The Wood Crafters Reunion will include: * Fun fly. * MOM launched by hi start for One of a Kind contest featuring the Gulf Coaster. * Cu Max also known as three for fifteen. * Ladder, three minute. _ Scale Aerotow all four days, beautiful woody scale at it's best. Ray Hayes Sky Bench.com Home of Wood Crafters - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] First RC model In a message dated 7/3/2006 7:28:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Keeper of the (Nostalgia) rules...what is your take on this positive subject??? Keeper of the rules is now the AMA Competitions/Technical Department, since Nostalgia became a rule book event in 2005. Change proposals may be submitted just as for any other rule book event for consideration/vote by the RC Soaring Contest Board, in accordance with the Contest Board Procedures found in the Competitions section of the AMA website (along with THE current version of the rule book - the last one to be printed/mailed out was the 2002-2004 edition). We are just completing a (revised 2 year - it used to be 3 year) rule change cycle for changes to be effective beginning Jan 2007. No change proposals for the Nostalgia event were submitted this last cycle. The next opportunity to submit changes will be 15 Jan - 15 Sep 2007, for possible implementation in Jan 2009. If enough people care enough to develop/submit desirable change proposals and more people further advise their respective AMA District Contest Board representatives they want those proposals favorably voted, changes will happen. If not, it's same-old, same-old! (and it's not the fault of AMA Hq, rules and changes thereto originate with the membership) The CD of a specific contest event may modify the existing official rules for that event (if the deviations are clearly spelled out in the sanction application and in event publicity), likewise for informal club events (obviously, deviations must not compromise safety) . This is a very good way to test the merits of potential changes/new rules before developing formal change proposals and the supporting rationale. Good Lift! Skip Schow AMA 143 (LM, CD), LSF 166 (V #46), Distr IV Rep. Chrmn RC Soaring Contest Board . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] First RC model
Chuck, I went to the web after reading the story below, but before it loaded I had a thought. I think that rule about nostalgia class having to be a model that was either kitted or published is good as far as it goes. I think a clause should be added to that rule, however it has to be done that any member of AMA who designed and built a model that won, placed or showed in the AMA NATS before the 1980 cutoff date shall be grandfathered into the Nostalgia Class for all time. Come guys and you too Gordy get on the bandwagon and push to get this done. Keeper of the rules...what is your take on this positive subject??? Jerry Miller, Leader Member, CD SOSS-Medford, OR Chuck Anderson wrote: I learned to fly RC in 1956 flying a Berkeley Bootstraps powered by an OK Cub 14 with a Lorenz two tube superregen receiver driving a Southwest Magnetic Actuator. Somehow the model survived until I got out of t he Air Force and I still have it. When I resumed RC modeling in 1963, I became enamored with a gull wing power pod sailplane published in Flying Models. It was an unstable beast and frequently fell into an unrecoverable spiral dive. The club expert took the transmitter and said Let me show you how to fly. He promptly spiraled it into the ground and handed the transmitter back to me without saying a word. I decided that I could design a better one so I did. The result was the Tern published in the May, 1967 RCM. The Tern used a Controlaire 5 receiver and I retired it to hang from my shop ceiling when CB radio made the superregin receiver unusable. In 1970, I had replaced my first proportional radio system and was looking for something to do with the Microavonics radio. I remembered the fun I had searching for thermals with the Tern so I build another one large enough to house the giant Orbit servos and called it the Tern II. It originally had a Cox TD 09 in the nose. When we started using winches, the engine was replaced with a nose cone and a lot of lead to become my first true sailplane. By 1974, the Tern had evolved to the Tern IV which won a first place trophy in Standard class and placed 8th overall at the SOAR Nats that year. All of the models described here (except the unstable gull wing monster) still exist but not in flyable condition. The Tern IV could be refurbished but the wing spars aren't strong enough for modern winches. Ironically, the Tern IV is not eligible to fly in nostalgia even though it has a 1974 first place Nats trophy because it was never published or kitted. Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Borrow/Rent/Steal - maybe even purchase
Jim, Jack and Karen, The plane stand/holder is outstanding, that of course would only be for DP. Notice how she/the holder is fingering the nose of the glider! Hi Karen. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR James V. Bacus wrote: DP is just too lazy to pack the one he brought last time, he thought he could leave it in Muncie until the next time... but the Strothers made sure it got back to him safe and sound in AZ. Here's a picture of it the last time I saw it. http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/OVSS_8_2005/pages/DSC03543.html ;-) At 05:13 PM 6/29/2006, Daryl Perkins wrote: Need a real 2M for the Nats. Anyone? No Ducks No Monarchs Nothing that'll blow up I don't need to fly it until the morning of, so you could just bring it with ya Ping me offline Thx, D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] subscribe soaring digest end
Pepper, You gotta get up to speed on this!! Now that you have the text down, now you have to get the address right. Follow along closely please. In the To: box type soaring-request@airage.com then add the text that Mike instructed you with, which you got right 3 times. Can you hand this now?? Good luck. Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Hi all, If it's available in your area, DHL is the shipper of choice now a days. And more importantly in most cases they will come to your door for pick-ups at no cost. I sent a large package weighing 53 lbs. for a cost of only $37.00 from OR to Eastern TX. Ground transport in 4 days. You can set up an account and pay by check, cash; CC can only be done through the billing process , for all three ways you must know the weight, and 3 demeitions, pay the driver at pick-up. The driver has no way to do weight or do measurements at your door. They will bill you if you do not have info, so you must trust them. I find they are reliable in that regard. Try them. By the way, that 53 pound package if it would have gone UPS would have cost me $87.00, Fed/Ex was only $63.00. The choice is clear in my mind!! Jerry Miller At home in Medford, OR Recuperating from hernia operation this morning at 8:00AM home by 10:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so pissed at UPS (~$750,000/year) I am attempting to have our company switch to another carrier. Quoting Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here's our latest UPS horror story. My wife had ordered three boxes of foam wreath cores. Two of them arrived when expected, and the third arrived several days later. Upon opening the box all the cores were broken. It turns out UPS crushed the original box, poured the broken contents into another box, and then proceeded to deliver the (now unblemished exterior) box as if nothing had happened. Geez! Anker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format Simon Van Leeuwen PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice Radius Systems Cogito Ergo Zoom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Shipping to Canada - WAS: Vender Disappointment
Anker, I feel your pain and auger. Bye the way, in my previous post, I don't know if DHL will ship to foreign countries, but the service is very good in the USA. Jerry Miller Medford, OR Anker Berg-Sonne wrote: Here's our latest UPS horror story. My wife had ordered three boxes of foam wreath cores. Two of them arrived when expected, and the third arrived several days later. Upon opening the box all the cores were broken. It turns out UPS crushed the original box, poured the broken contents into another box, and then proceeded to deliver the (now unblemished exterior) box as if nothing had happened. Geez! Anker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] New Years Day Soaring - Virginia Style
God almighty Don, you are getting just like Gordy. Oh that's right you are friends. You been taking lessons, huh. Wish I could travel like you guys do. Oh and I know part of your lessons is not from Gordy! Jerry Miller Stuck here in OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tidewater Model Soaring Society (TMSS) held the annual Hardy Souls Contest New Year's Day. About 20 fliers attended this annual event which this year did not require much hardiness. The weather cooperated with the temperature in the 50's, gentle breezes and no rain. Thermals were abundant, but not always easy stay in contact with. Of course Luther, Josh and several others had no problem in making the 8 minute time required for each round of unlimited flying. Percy Pierce was the CD and decided that there would not be any landing requirement due to field conditions. The round tasks were set at 8 minutes for unlimited and 7 minutes for 2 meter. Although the final scores have not been determined, I am sure there are several ties. This was my second year of participating in this event and it was great to see many old acquaintances and put some faces to Internet correspondents. Nice to see Herk Stokely again after meeting him years ago at the NATS. Always good to see Josh Glaab, Bill Conkling, John Moody, Bob Stewart, Reid Roberts, Ed Amaudin, Abram Van Dover (catered the lunch),Tom Broeski and many others that I simply cannot recall. Missing in action was Doug Barry. I was looking forward to seeing his Supra in action. Great soaring, great fun and great camaraderie. I look forward to more contests this coming year (as my travel permits). Don Richmond San Diego, CA (Virginia Beach, VA for the holidays) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hilaunch.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Update on John Derstine
Hi all, Got an answer from Melissa Derstine this evening, and there is no good news about John. They have heard nothing and now believe he planned this for sometime. He did exit suddenly from the soaring exchange, what they find very hard to understand is leaving his family behind also. Melissa says the emotions the family are going through right now is unbelievable. She asks that if anyone hears or knows anything about John's disappearance to please let them know. Please don't bug her, at this sad time for the family, unless you have some valuable information. I would hope he will turn up soon. Jerry Miller, SOSS Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] WOW-where'd all these posts come from?
Dana, Oh yes, I had 81 just before going to the Dr. at 1:00pM came home at 3:15 and was loaded. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR Dana Flemming wrote: All of a sudden, I have 80 postings from OCTOBER on my email list. This happen to anyone else? Dana RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] What happened to the system,
The RCSE worked fine for a week or two, suddenly this past weekend it quit again. How do I know? I am subscribed for the digest version on yahoo.com, I just read about 30 messages that did not come thru to this address. I tried re=subscribing no answer yet, 20 minutes or so later. Help Jerry Miller SOSS=Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] A320 Landing
Sorry guys, his plane shedd a few parts on landing, so no points can be allowed. I don't care if was 6 off the center line, he did keep it going straight on the runway. Flight points are allowed. But that pilot did a damn good job, you can't berate that fact. Also, he allowed all the passengers to watch the event on live TV as it was happening, just as you got to see it. They mostly had lots of praise for him too. Jerry Miller - SOSS Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] LSF minutia part 2
John, Section 10 First sentence, explains the answer to the question. I read it as yes it can. The whole list may not see this as I was writing it I got conformation that I was unsubscribed from the list, as I am going to change my email address. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: John Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:05 PM To: Soaring List Subject: [RCSE] LSF minutia part 2 Okay, I promise not to ask any more questions after this one. Can the goal and return flight and the thermal flight be counted at the same time? JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Club Newsletter Editors/Webmasters Only
Ron, As a former member of the Gulls and a helper putting the newsletter together, I think I pretty well know what you are going through. An evening each month with 2 or 3 people meeting at a fast food place downtown to correlate, staple, place postage and address labels, fold then take to the P.O. Our club recently, when I was the editor, changed over to PDF format, that is sent to all members with e-mail addresses. You can get the converter to PDF from most any word processor format for free. We are using MS Publisher. We are using Fine Print PDF Factory and or Fine Print 2000, check their web site for d/l's at www.fineprint.com . When we started we had one member not with a computer. Today he has one available at work, and has one at home, so we saved lots of postage plus the time to print and stamp, address and mail out. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: tony estep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:15 AM To: Ron Scharck; 'RCSE' Subject: Re: [RCSE] Club Newsletter Editors/Webmasters Only --- Ron Scharck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Editor and/or Webmaster: If your club publishes an electronic version of your newsletter, via e-mail or website... Our club is in the process of making this transition. Needless to say, there has been a bit of discussion regarding the pros and cons Ron, our club (Mississippi Valley Soaring Association) has about 40 members. For many years we sent out printed newsletters, but a couple of years ago we went to posting them only on the website. This was not the best decision, but it was made partly to save costs and partly to accommodate me. I'm the editor. I have time to make a newsletter, but not to print and mail them. So we put them on the club site (www.mvsaclub.com) and I made them nice and pretty. At the end of last year, we concluded that the lack of hard-copy letters appearing in members' mailboxes was causing some of our less-active members to lose interest in the club. We found a volunteer to print and mail them. I compose and edit, then email to him and he produces the physical letters. To save costs, we reduced the size of the letter and simplified the format, so today's letter doesn't look as spiffy as the older ones (you can see both kinds on the website). However, it does get mailed out, and people like it. I believe that the arrival of a hard-copy letter just before a meeting or a club fly-in increases attendance. Not all of our members are Internet users, and of those who are, many use dial-up connections. We have been sending out printed letters again for only 3 months, so I can't tell you whether or not it has sparked new member interest. But I believe it will. Let us hear about your experience as you change over, if that's the direction you decide to go. Good luck! Tony Estep MVSA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Nicads not charging to capacity
Has anyone ever thought of unplugging the charger after it quits charging, then re-plugging it in to top the pack off?? Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Bill Conkling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:04 AM To: Martin Usher Cc: RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nicads not charging to capacity I have an old Accucycle, and it will only charge for a certain time, MAX. I was having the same problem and was getting diminishing capacity, but found that the higher capacity batteries were not getting charged fully before the charger quit. .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Martin Usher wrote: What is going on with these packs? (Steve Gibson) I've had both new and long unused batteries do this, it was so consistent that I thought that my cycler had got out of calibration. After one or two cycles with the batteries showing well below rated capacity I ran one full charge with a peak charger. That got them back close to their rated capacity and they are now holding this when cycled using slow charger. I'm using an Accucycle for discharge/slow charge and a Summit peak charger. This behaviour is consistent with what I understand of battery chemistry. Should I expect to get more than 900 mAh from a new 1100 mAh pack? I don't believe labels on batteries, they're just an approximate guide. I go by what I measure. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Re: 2004 Nats X/C
John, You are correct that the event did not have any weight rules, fly what you brung. Do to the many forms of aircraft flown, we decided not limit weight for the scale planes hoping to get more people out to try it out. As far as an official event, yes it was, AMA sanctioned, for both the power and sailplanes. I was the CD for it. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: John Derstine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:08 AM To: 'JMiller'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: 2004 Nats X/C Actually the Scale aertow X-C at Montague was not any official event and was open to all sizes and weight. This wasn't the winch event, but a separate contest as I understand it. At least that was what I was told by Dean Gradwell and Mike Gee. Ask Dean about this, he is very excited about the prospects of giant scale XC. Regardless, you could easily run side by side events at the NATS and have the scale aerotow xc be an unofficial NATs event, thereby bypassing any currents rules. The only downside is there would be no NATS trophies for this part of the event. I can help out with a trophy or two as long as it would not be prohibitively expensive. Talk to Steve Kaluf. We did this very thing the first several years our new scale rules were under review. This allowed a continuation of the event under provisional rules. Been there done it. If you want to do it, you would have to most likely clone the rules from the existing event and make minor changes to allow aerotow and heavier sailplanes. It is easy to come up with reasons why not to do something, just do it! John Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.net email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: JMiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: 2004 Nats X/C Rob is right, the temporary test rules limits us to 11 lbs. We at the Montague XC Challenge have used this limit all 6 years we have run the event. Don't be surprised if you see a couple of entries at the NATS next year from a current world record holder, and the current Event Sponsor of the Montague XC Challenge at Muncie in 2004. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re: 2004 Nats X/C Jack - Sounds like a fun idea. As I recall the AMA has some rules about max weight of the models that has been a stumbling block in the past with large scale planes. You might want to check that out. happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LSF non-competition program ideas(expand page to full size please)
Don and Jack and others interested, I sat around this afternoon making additions to the present LSF Tasks Summary as listed on the LSF Webpage. The below listed changes between the underscore lines are my suggestions to accomplish the task changes for those who want enter the LSF program, but not fly in competition events. You also would not have to make a separate program, just include an * (II*, III*, IV*, V*) to indicate achievement by non-competition by the member. Section 12 - Summary of Requirements RequirementsPrimary Intermediate Advanced Level III III IV V Thermal Duration5 min.15 min.30 min 1 hr 2 hrs. Slope Duration 15 min.* 1 Hr.* 2 hrs.*4 hrs.*8 hrs. Precision Spot Landing 5 landings 3m10 landings 1.5m None None None (9.84 ft.or less)(4.92ft. or less) Goal and Return None None 1km (0.62 mi.) 2km (1.24 mi.) 10km(6.2 mi) Competition None 6 contests**w/ 6 contests**w/ 6 contests**w/2 pls 6 contests**w/ 1 pl or 3,000 pts 2 pls or 4,500 pts l win or6,000pts. 12,000pts incl 3 wins ___ Non-CompetitionNone 4-12 Min Flts+ 4-15 Min Flts+ 4-18 Min Flts+ 4-24 Min Flts+ Alternatives 4-16 Min Flts+ 4-18 Min Flts+ 4-24 Min Flts+ 4-40 Min Flts.+ All Flts. are TD 1-30 Min Flt 1-1 Hr. Flt 2-1 Hour Flts2-1 Hour Flts+ 1-2 Hour Flt. All Flights must land with in 30 Meters (100) of Launch point to be counted, any number of Flights per day may be made within each level. An (*) asterisk shall be added to Level Number for Non-Competition Achievers No combination of Tasks between Competition and Non-Competition may be used, its one or the other, through out all Tasks in Intermediate and Advanced Requirements. ___ *A second thermal flight which meets the basic Thermal Duration requirement for this Level may be flown in lieu of the Slope Duration requirement. However, the second thermal flight may not be flown on the same day. ** Section 11 - D (FAI World Records) Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] LSF Stuff
Rob, I almost agree with your message. Where I do not is the voter qualifications, the By-Laws need to be changed on this very subject, to update them for present day, on line voting, including those who can't, be allowed to mail in a paper ballot. I have worded my suggested changes for this change in by laws and will submit to the new board, whomever that may be. Also, we don't need to change any of the existing tasks, but we can add to them. See my other email just received. I do not intend to argue about any of this, I will just submit and let the new board haggle it out. Jerry Miller, CD, LM, LSF III SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 6:59 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [RCSE] LSF Stuff There's beena whole bunch of traffic on RCSE about the LSF lately. I won't attempt to comment on it all, but as a candidate for the presidency of the LSF there are a few things that I'd like to say. I'll ramble a bit, so if you're in a hurry you may want to dump this message. First off, I think that thelevel of interestis great. I have been a member of the LSF and a participant in RCSE for many years now. This is the most activity regarding the LSF that I can recall, by far. It indicates to me that the LSF members care about their organization and are actively thinking about where they want soaring to go and what they want it to look like when it gets there. I hear that folks are even exercising their right to vote. As my hero Homer says, Yipee! On voter qualifications: Anybody is qualified to vote who has achieved Level 1 or higher and corresponded with the LSF within the past 24 months. You don't even have to pay dues. You do have to pay enough attention to remember to send the LSF a note with your name and address on it once every couple years. I personally think that this is liberal enough. If you really wanted to vote and are ineligible I'm sorry, but we gotta draw a line somewhere and this one is drawn pretty loosely. I guess if we charged annual dues we could put an end to the controversy, but I don't really want to go there. On changes to the Soaring Accomplishment Program: I do not believe that the current soaring accomplishment program should be changed. The LSF was started with the sole intent of administering this program, and I believe that the program is still valid and challenging. I will agree that it's not something that everybody wants to do. I further believe that not everybody is capable of doing it. That's what makes it special. If the LSF starts to push a different program thenthey are competing with themselves. Doesn't make much sense to me. What I do see is that the program has grown a set of dedicated people who are competent enough that the rest of the soaring community and the AMA are looking to them for leadership. That's pretty impressive. On non competitive events: I agree that there is a lot of room for non competitive or non traditional events. They are a lot of fun, and I enjoy them a great deal myself. I don't understand why folks don't have more of them. The LSF officers can encourage folks to hold events (traditional or otherwise) but the LSF doesn't actually do anything to make them happen. There is only one event per year that the LSF actually has much of a part in, and that is the soaring Nats. The LSF will sell you some nice mugs that make dandy trophies, but that's about all they do. Anybody who wants to hold a non competitive event just needs to fill out the CD's form and call the event a Fun Fly, and send it through the usual channels. Show up with your buds and fly cross country, duration events, inverted limbo, or whatever you think is fun. All of the events we have, with the exception of the Nats, are locally run by local clubs and local individuals. If I can give anybody a hand I'd love to help, I can shag chutes and drink beer with the best of them. But the simple fact is that the LSF probably won't show up at your field with a truckload of winches and a busload of volunteers and run your event. On competitive events: I realize that some folks don't like to compete, or at least think they don't. When I go to a soaring event I compete with exactly one person, and that is me. I compete with the same guy when I fly every time, at a contest or not. Sometimes I whup up on him, sometimes he beats me. If I'm at a contest then I have a bunch of other folks to socialize with andlearn something from, which is great. The first year I attended the LSF/AMA Nats I distinguished myself by losing site of my plane and planting it in a bean field. Mike Stump proclaimed me to be the Mayor of the Bean Field. If I'd had thin skin I'd probably have left and never come back. But I figured out that Mike was
RE: [RCSE] LSF non-competition program ideas(expand page to full size please)
Hope you can figure it out, didn't seem to come out the way I typed it. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: JMiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 7:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] LSF non-competition program ideas(expand page to full size please) Don and Jack and others interested, I sat around this afternoon making additions to the present LSF Tasks Summary as listed on the LSF Webpage. The below listed changes between the underscore lines are my suggestions to accomplish the task changes for those who want enter the LSF program, but not fly in competition events. You also would not have to make a separate program, just include an * (II*, III*, IV*, V*) to indicate achievement by non-competition by the member. Section 12 - Summary of Requirements RequirementsPrimary Intermediate Advanced Level III III IV V Thermal Duration5 min.15 min.30 min 1 hr 2 hrs. Slope Duration 15 min.* 1 Hr.* 2 hrs.*4 hrs.*8 hrs. Precision Spot Landing 5 landings 3m10 landings 1.5m None None None (9.84 ft.or less)(4.92ft. or less) Goal and Return None None 1km (0.62 mi.) 2km (1.24 mi.) 10km(6.2 mi) Competition None 6 contests**w/ 6 contests**w/ 6 contests**w/2 pls 6 contests**w/ 1 pl or 3,000 pts 2 pls or 4,500 pts l win or6,000pts. 12,000pts incl 3 wins ___ Non-CompetitionNone 4-12 Min Flts+ 4-15 Min Flts+ 4-18 Min Flts+ 4-24 Min Flts+ Alternatives 4-16 Min Flts+ 4-18 Min Flts+ 4-24 Min Flts+ 4-40 Min Flts.+ All Flts. are TD 1-30 Min Flt 1-1 Hr. Flt 2-1 Hour Flts2-1 Hour Flts+ 1-2 Hour Flt. All Flights must land with in 30 Meters (100) of Launch point to be counted, any number of Flights per day may be made within each level. An (*) asterisk shall be added to Level Number for Non-Competition Achievers No combination of Tasks between Competition and Non-Competition may be used, its one or the other, through out all Tasks in Intermediate and Advanced Requirements. ___ *A second thermal flight which meets the basic Thermal Duration requirement for this Level may be flown in lieu of the Slope Duration requirement. However, the second thermal flight may not be flown on the same day. ** Section 11 - D (FAI World Records) Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] LSF non-competition program ideas (long) (part 3 of 3)
I think Don has given this idea a lot of thought. It has so many valid points, mainly the infusion of non-contest fliers that are now flying, but non-fliers as witnesses so as to encourage them to be fliers and LSF participates. I would encourage the new (2004) board to give these 3 pages of Don's a lot of thought for the future of the LSF. Just a note to those older guys who have already done it, this would take nothing away from you. I congratulate each a everyone of you for your achievements in the LSF program, and encourage you to continue your activities in LSF. Jerry Miller, Level III and counting SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] LSF non-competition program ideas (long) (part 3 of 3) (continued from part 2) Of course, while we're coming up with alternatives to the experience requirements, we could also do some adjusting to the one-time tasks. For example, we could tie them to the wingspan of the model. The existing thermal tasks for Level V are framed typically around the capabilities of an open-class model from the era in which the program was started. That would be about a 10 ft. span model, but with overall capabilities for launching, ranging and penetrating that are probably somewhat less than today's typical open class ship. One option might be to use a modern 2-meter model for the baseline standard, and therefore to set the thermal duration tasks of Level A to 7.5 minutes for each meter of wingspan, 15 minutes per meter of span for Level B, 30 minutes per meter for Level C and 1 hour per meter of wingspan for Level D. Under this system, if you wanted to get a Level D thermal duration flight with a 1.5 meter HLG, you would have to fly for 90 minutes. If you wanted to use your 3-meter open class moldie, you would need to fly for 3 hours. If you went for it with your 5.5-meter scale ship, better plan to have a cast-iron bladder surgically installed first. A similar approach could apply to the one-time distance tasks. If we use a 2-meter model as the baseline for the current distance tasks, that means that for Level B you would need a 1 kilometer flight, 2 kilometers for Level C and 10 Kilometers for Level D. However, with a 1.5 meter HLG you would only need 0.75, 1.5 and 7.5 kilometers, while that 3-meter moldie would require 1.5, 3 and 15 kilometers respectively. Note, I'm only referring to the requirements for this new branch of the badge program. If other folks want to apply this to the existing program of badges to make it more interesting and more in step with today's technology, that's their business. Wingspan seems to be less of an issue for slope models, so perhaps those tasks should remain the same. I'm open to suggestion on that one. Also, I'd like to hear feedback from folks in tune with the typical slope-soaring contest scene regarding what sort of documented non-contest slope soaring experience would equate to the slope-soaring contest experience and skill level shown by the contest requirements in the existing LSF badge program. Remember when you're thinking about those that we're not trying to kill the new program with excessive requirements, but rather make it just tough enough that accomplishing it demonstrates at least an equivalent level of experience and accomplishment, and commands the same respect, as earning the equivalent number badge in the current contest-oriented LSF badge program. Ideally, if we've set all this up right, there should be a significant number of individuals who want to complete BOTH programs. Who will be the first to have both a Level V and a Level D badge, or even two of each? As far as submissions and record keeping, I recommend we stay within the framework of the existing voucher system as much as possible, to make it easier to fit into the existing LSF program infrastructure. Additional documentation for the experience portions of the requirements would simply involve legible photocopies of the appropriate pages from the aspirant's logbook, with the applicable flights highlighted, plus a tally of the flights involved showing that they add up to the required number of flights and number of hours. The idea is to keep it as simple as possible so we don't create problems for Jim Deck. Of course if the participation in this new program is so great that Jim can't handle it all, the LSF might need to get him an assistant. As I mentioned at the beginning, this would be no different than if participation in the existing program had suddenly increased, and in any case would show that the LSF had become more successful. This is a GOOD thing, folks! The other aspect of the existing LSF program that we've touched on briefly, but needs more elaboration, is the mentoring aspect. Supposedly a holder of an existing LSF badge has contributed to the history of R/C soaring and to the soaring community
RE: [RCSE] FAI Licenses-Eligibility
Jim, Thanks for the info. I guess Mark will just have to choose. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] FAI Licenses-Eligibility From the current FAI sporting code Section 4 (Aeromodeling), Volume ABR, Subsection 4B.3.2 I paraphrase the following: The team members (pilots), team manager, and assistant team manager must hold valid FAI sporting licenses to participate in International competition. Since team selection contests are not International contests, technically FAI licenses should not be required. It is customary to have them, though. We did so for the 2000 F3B Team Selection contest in Sacramento, even though it was only an AMA sanctioned contest. I don't recall if it was required by AMA or by our AMA-F3B liason Buzz Averill, or just something we did. I also don't know what was done for the 2002 Team Selection contest, I didn't attend. Jim Thomas, retired 2003 USA F3B Team Manager RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: Re: [RCSE] Re: Nomination Help..reply
Pat and all, I will back down on my earlier email on RCSE to leave LSF (not LEFT) alone. I agree with Pat, just because someone is not advancing after Level 1, should not in any way be not able to cast his vote, and have it counted. Here we are with the hanging chad syndrome, in the sport of soaring. This goes back to the old, pre email voting, to save stamps and money from mailing out to everyone and no one sending in his ballot. Let um vote. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:43 PM To: Brian Smith Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] Re: Nomination Help..reply Brian, I have been a member since the late 70's but have not advanced a level in several years so have not sent in any official correspondence to the LSF in the last two years. Does not seem to matter that I have been involved in many of the LSF conversations on this list with various members and LSF Officers but I guess I still have not been involved. I have only been able to attend the LSF/AMA Nats twice since 93 so I guess that means I have not been involved. Does not matter that I spent time at both those Nats as a worker either so I guess I still was not involved enough. If the by-laws say that I am not eligible to vote, then I am not eligible, but I will be involved in lobbying the new officers once in office to change this dumb by-law. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS From: Brian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/16 Thu PM 03:32:07 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Nomination Help..reply Those involved are able to vote.Brian I think anyone who is involved in LSF should have the right to vote! gv RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] LSF II for Life
Tom, For a lawyer, you sure have a poor attitude!!!(Hehe Haha) Like you I thought about the same while I was level two, but enjoyed the progress of no more landings. Yeah sure, the damn contests require even harder landings than one and two do. But I did my contests, and I did have to travel a couple of hundred miles to get it done, but what fun, I was rubbing shoulders with all the great ones, Joe, Darryl, the Soaring Junkie, Gordy and the like. Then after 3 or 4 tries and failures, I finally made my cross country with a witness/driver to make my day, the infamous Dean Gradwell, sponsor of the largest XC event in the USA, well at least-nah in the USA. I've been the winchmaster for all six of the events. Never have flown in one of them, couldn't afford all the equipment it takes to do it. Check out his webpage www.XCsoaring.com. But, I would encourage you to progress on for 3-4-5, for what ever it takes, the flying is not the most important part of the achievement, it's attitude, and how you handled yourself while doing it. So come on, catch me. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Tom H. Nagel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:24 PM To: Marc gellart; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech Cc: Ken Lilja Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF II for Life Agreed! I enjoyed working my way up to Level II and I still carry the voucher and work on Level III flights. I am the LSF Club Coordinator for MOSS. I might fly in a contest if my car breaks down while I am parked a field where a contest is about to start. Once in a while I even enjoy being cannon fodder for contest pilots. What turns me off about contests is driving a couple of hundred miles (or even 75 miles) to sit around on a field all day and only fly my plane 6 times all day, and if I am lucky enough to stumble into a thermal, I gotta leave it and land in 8 minutes. I enjoy flying too much for that. If I ever make LSF III I am going to have a ceremony to retire my stopwatch. - Original Message - From: Marc gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ken Lilja [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF 5 question... give me your verdict! Ken, You are right, there are many guys who are not contest orientated, but have achieved Level 2 of the program so as to assist others that are going for higher levels and need level 2 signatures for witnesses. Level 2 involves no contests and I would think even if you are not planning to contest at all, you could witness and help folks going to thermal, xc, and slope flights. I think that no one will think less of you for not contesting, but being supportive of a friend's effort I know would be highly thought of. I think that Don would back me up on these comments. Marc - Original Message - From: Don Stackhouse @ DJ Aerotech [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ken Lilja [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF 5 question... give me your verdict! Ken Lilja writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LSF is a SELF achievement program. LSF can't possibly be self achievement program since you need to compete against others to advance (to win others must loose). I expect to do an an 8 hour flight some day for the personal challenge. But competition interests me very little and thus does the LSF. Now an organization that recognizes construction, design and flying of sailplanes would interest me a great deal. I personally do not enjoy competition flying myself, that's why I always let Joe do the contest flying. That's also why I have never been interested in even beginning with the LSF achievement program. A few years ago I had the poor judgement to mention essentially this same point as your post on RCSE. I got thoroughly flamed in public by quite a few folks on the list for even suggesting such a thing. I was accused of attempting to destroy LSF, that I had no right to make such comments since folks used my sailplane designs in competition, etc., etc., and was essentially threatened with the soaring equivalent of excommunication, including by a number of the officers of LSF at that time. It was almost like being declared Sal for the day. However, I received over three times as many private responses from folks who strongly agreed with me. They didn't make their responses public for obvious reasons. Apparently there are a great many folks out there who feel similarly. However, they are subjected to intense tyranny of the majority (although judging from what I've seen and heard, I'm not sure that the vocal majority really is truly a majority, rather than just more vocal) if they ever have the audacity to even ask the question of whether there should be room in the organized
RE: [RCSE] Bozo has landed...
Bozo, and the X-Baglady, You mean very little or no more roaming? I can't even imagine that!!! If the Bozo has a shop to build, will the x-Baglady again sew?? Of course under a different name. Al might get upset. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Phil Townsend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Bozo has landed... We have done it...Christine and I have settled down and bought a new house. No more aimless wandering about the country lookin for something or somewhere. We have been in New Mexico for about a year and it doesnt suck. Bozo is with shop once again. And you know, I get the plane I deserve. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] New Aero Tow Photos Posted!
Paul, Nice pictures and well done. Thanks for posting them. It turned out to be a great event. No real problems except for Mike B. with two down, due to possible tx problem. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Paul Naton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] New Aero Tow Photos Posted! I just posted some excellent photos of last weekend's SOSS aero tow event at Montague. Super site, lots of cool planes, good pilots. I learned more than a few hints on flying the tow! Shot with a Canon D-30 digital SLR. Page 1 http://radiocarbonart.com/Pages/zmontepicsone.html Page 2 http://radiocarbonart.com/Pages/zmontepicstwo.html Enjoy! -- Paul Naton president-Radio Carbon Art Producers of High Quality R/C Silent Flight Videos http://www.radiocarbonart.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 541-752-9661 Visa/Mastercard Accepted RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Montague Scale Aero Tow and Scale XC Aero Tow Event
The SOUTHERN OREGON SOARING SOCIETY is sponsoring the 1st Montague Scale and Scale XC Aero Tow Event on Sept. 5 thru Sept. 7th 2003. Friday will be set up of course, check in and free field flying. Saturday 9:00am Pilots Meeting and XC briefing 9:20am Field open for Aero Tow and XC 5:30 Awards BBQ at Montague Hanger 2 After dinner - Hospitality Room-Amerihost Inn in Yreka - Mr. Mrs. Gee hosts Sunday 9:00am Pilots Meeting Open Aero Towing We have 5 Tow planes scheduled to be available. If you have scale models in your hangers, you are invited to attend, all inquiries via email go to: Mike Gee (Event Director)[EMAIL PROTECTED] entry forms are available at http://www.scalesoaring.net/EVENTS.HTM then scroll down to September Events, a Word Doc flyer with entry form is available there. You may call Mike at 541 956-6149 in Grants Pass, OR. The main plan for this event will be to have FUN and learn more about Aero Towing, and for those who have not flown XC, the added excitement of this fast growing form of flying model aircraft. This is an AMA Sanctioned event so make sure to bring your current AMA pilot's card. No card; no flying, everyone who fly's will have to sign in both for event and sanction paperwork. To date a couple of names to be in attendance are Wil Byers and Tony Elliott with his huge SB-10 also, Mike Gervais, Mike Bamberg, Dean Gradwell and Scott Meador. Awards will be for Scale Best Vintage Glider and Modern Sailplane Optional: Cross Country longest distance in a closed course Best Tug and Towline Drop contest For all planning to attend we need to know your plans as early as possible whether you will be entering the XC event. Cars and trucks will be needed with seat belts and seats in the pickup beds to comply with CHP requirements in California. Jeeps and convertibles work well for this. We can provide advisor assistance but do not have equipment available except on a very limited basis. Please let Mike know your needs and if you can assist for this part of the event. Just so you know, the closed course runs on main back country roads and thru 3 small towns, crosses Interstate 5, with a total course length of about 60 miles. It is a changeling course in the beautiful Shasta Valley, in the shadow of Mt. Shasta to the south. Jerry Miller, CD - LM SOSS-Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Re: (MSN)
I am using filters also with Outlook but for some reason one gets thru every once in a while. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: John L. Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:15 PM To: soaring Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: (MSN) Used to, now I get one from uol anti spam. I've resigned myself to using filters that send them directly to the trash. -Original Message- From: Brian Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:40 PM To: soaring Subject: [RCSE] Re: (MSN) Does anyone else get the MSN Hotmail notice everytime you send something to RCSE? Brian -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/2003 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Flap anomaly on the 8103.
Harley, You probably on #23 set the flap travel to a -number before setting them up for full travel, but the radio will only read back to 0 when copied the transfer. Check that out , I'm not sure of this, but would be my guess. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Harley Michaelis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:50 PM To: Soaring Subject: [RCSE] Flap anomaly on the 8103. I have two GENIES, a #23 and a new #24. Both have Micro-Maxx's for flaps. The mechanics are identical. I'm using the left stick for landing flaps, bypassing the 3 position flap switch. On #23, I get 90 degrees down flap just fine.. I reset another setup to factory specs and then copied #23's setup to it. All I did then was rename it #24. On #23, I get full down flap. On #24 I get about 45 degrees down. Increasing the SPOI-Flap mix setting doesn't help. Any ideas? Harley Michaelis, 26 S. Roosevelt, Walla Walla, WA 99362, ph. (509) 529-2562 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] A Sailing Excha nge
Hi to Chris, The Auckland guy. Alinghi is putting it to you. 3 up. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Help with dead links
Andrew, Just checked those you listed, LaserArts, Major Hobbies, and EzCalc are working the others are not. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Andrew E. Mileski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Help with dead links Going through my bookmark collection: http://isoar.ca/~andrewm/bkmks/ and I discovered these links appear dead: Bludartar http://www.bludartar.com/ Laser Artshttp://www.laserartco.com/ (geocities address works) Major Hobby http://www.majorhobby.com/ Sobox Planes http://www.soboxplanes.com/ ezCalchttp://custompaintjob.com/ezcalc/dma.asp Trojanhttp://www.trojan-battery.com/ If you know where they have moved, or if they have been removed, please let me know. Thanks. On a happy note, the following link was marked as dead the last time I checked, but is working again: http://www.fmsg-alling.de/vtail.htm An excellent page on V-tail aerodynamics. -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Airport Baggage Inspection
Garland, That is just what they were doing at Medford airport, but were inspecting all the larger bags in addition. I think it was the first day they were doing it and we were second in line to check baggage. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: GHANSON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Airport Baggage Inspection Just went through the airport at Orlando yesterday. ALL luggage was screened just before being presented to the airlines at the counter for check in. TSA had LOTS of inspection stations and there was no holdup whatsoever. Each bag was screened by swabbing a small wipe on the handle and along the outside of each bag. The wipe was then immediately analyzed in the wiper analysis machine and baggage was then cleared. I witnessed no bags being opened although each passenger was standing by just in case. They would have allowed you to unlock your bag then relock if necessary. They seemed well-trained, professional, and courteous. I'm sure all airports are different but it is an easy matter to clear baggage at Orlando! Good luck! Garland - Original Message - From: JMiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] IF you travel with Sailplanes, you need a Sportube! Bill, Yes I was with my son when he returned to Texas, even before Jan. 1, on the 30th of Dec. all open luggage inspection is done in your presents, at least here in Medford. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Bill Johns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] IF you travel with Sailplanes, you need a Sportube! At 10:45 AM 1/7/2003 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, Well I have a full travel year in with my Sportube and I have to tell you it has been the best thing for sailplanes I have come across. Mine has been in 16 different US States, a bunch of times, Toronto, a bunch of times and once to Europe! Its wheels and handle really make it work getting thru airports and to rental car locations. The fact that it collapses to fit in a rental car, and still leave space for luggage is just what I had been hoping for. The Airlines never look twice at it and the padlock keeps theives out of the case. YEAH BUT. As of Jan. 1, as I understand it, every piece of luggage will be inspected for bombs. This includes physical searches and, as reported by NPR several weeks ago, no luggage can be locked as all locks will be removed. The last thing I want would be to have some hassled baggage inspector, behind schedule, pull all the parts, bits and pieces of two competition sailplanes out of a sport tube and then try to jam them all back in. Has anyone had any experience with the new paradigm in baggage inspection? Just curious. Bill -- Life is complex. It has both real and imaginary parts. Bill Johns Pullman, WA USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Wing colorings
Hi all, We are in need of help and or advice in coloring the bottom half of wings. NO PAINT Some parameters are; it must be dark in color, easy to apply, like spraying on and the most important need is it must be water soluble, so it can be washed off an the end of day or weekend and so that the wing cores won't be damaged during removal. We are in the planning stages of a scale aero tow cross country event for next year at Montague, CA. The reason for the need is we don't want anyone eliminated from attending this event because of the scale guys not wanting to paint the bottom of their wings just for this event, thereby causing them to just say"not my scale plane". So if we can get something we can apply at the contest site for them, and they can wash it off before they go home or after they get there maybe they will make the trip to try it out. Anyone have any reasonable easy ideas to post? Of course you understand the reasoning behind this, if they get high with white wings them might lose it, dark rules. Jerry Miller SOSS -Medford, OR
RE: [RCSE] CR Fun-1 For Sale
Greg, Just a thought, has anyone ask if it can be reopened? Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Gregory Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 5:12 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] CR Fun-1 For Sale CR Fun 1 for sale. Airframe only. White fuse, wing top, and Horizontal stab top. Purple wing and horizontal stab bottom. Red fin and canopy. Set up for rudder control. The fuse has been broken in the normal Fun-1 spot (under wing), and has been repaired. The plane is in good shape. I can e-mail pictures. Selling because our only non-foamie slope has been closed since 9/11, and does not look like it will be reopened. $75.00 + Shipping. Greg Morris RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] filiment tape
Randy, Try a ACE Hardware store. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Randy Bullard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 8:29 AM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] filiment tape I can't find 3M filament tape used for building foam planes. I've looked in Office Max, Office Depot and Home Depot. Who carries it? Thanks, Randy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Great day
I finally have finished my Level III with a cross country today, went about half again as far as I had to, was good lift and no problems, flew at the field after return for 5-6 minutes before landing. Thanks Terry Mickle and Mike Reed for the assistance. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] XCSoaring web site
Guys, Dean is planning at this time to be back at Visalia again this year. FWIW Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Jack Strother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:45 AM To: Tom Broeski; soaring Subject: Re: [RCSE] XCSoaring web site After a trip to Visalia last year, and a whole bunch of proding, I got Dean to sell me one of those custom transport boxes for the SBXC. Very nice At 11:10 AM 8/21/2002 -0400, Tom Broeski wrote: I just got one of the new SBXC fuses from Dean and it is really nice. Tom Hey you guys, I was just up on the http://www.xcsoaring.com/ basically looking for information about which GPS to buy, I am still lost here, But I found this really neat construction Manual for the Super SB/XC. A couple of the upgrades, I have already built into my SBXC, but of course they do not look as nice. The point is, I know that a bunch of you out there have an SBXC, might be worth taking a look this manual. Jack Jack Strother LSF President Loveland, OHLSF 2948 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Strother LSF President Loveland, OHLSF 2948 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Rahm retriever
Barry, Run it on a 12V battery. Use double ball bearing swivels, do not use a parachute on the winch line. Use a 1 nylon neon colored strap with D rings on the strap in place of the chute. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR -Original Message- From: Barry Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Rahm retriever CSS has a Rahm retriever that doesn't get much use. I tried somewhat successfully to get it going. It does, however, put a lot of twist in the line which leads to some problems of snarls. Swivels are in place on the harness now. Does anyone use a Rahm retriever successfully? If so, what line is in use, do you use something to work against the twist, eg. prop or spinner, any recommended techniques? We're running ours on a 6 volt battery and it still goes wy fast. Any help appreciated. Barry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Vendors again!!!
Just for all to know, CST has always been able to give the service and quick
shipping as the last two testimonials refer too, I have known them since
before the move to Tehachapi from Lancaster where they started out, while
Mattt was still in the Air Force.
Jerry Miller
SOSS-Medford, OR
-Original Message-
From: Bill Rose Haymaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 3:25 PM
To: Reese; soar
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Vendors again!!!
That's NOTHING.
I ordered two pieces of High Strength 60 Foam from CST last week and receive
the order this past Monday (two days ago) and they sent me two pieces of
EPP by mistake. I figured I wasn't going to wire cut anything this week
because of the holiday and guess what I found at my doorstep today? That's
right, PRIORITY MAIL..
Thanks CST
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Vendors again!!!
So I call Composite Structures Tech. on Monday and order carbon push rods
for my Hera. They say sure we can ship them today {Mon. } I walk out to
get
the mail today Wen. and there's a box from CST on the porch. WoW!! a
company
that says it's going to do something and then does it.Thanks to
the
folkes at CST...Reece
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Re: [RCSE] safety issue
Mike, On the what's new header on the AMA webpage, there is a proposal for powered aircraft distance changes to 500' but does not mention that that has been reported here. Don't know where it came from, I have just as you stated emailed my Dist. VP for clarification. That's all we can do at this time. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: Mike Stump [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: [RCSE] safety issue does somebody have a link to the alleged safety proposal? a source where the actual proposal may be.. do we go to our dist. VP saying we heard a rumor? (what a popular way to lose attention).. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Safety Code
Bill, Not. If the proposal doesn't apply to gliders. But oops, sorry I ask questions. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Erica and or Rob' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jerry Miller' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Safety Code So, now we will no longer play combat. We'll play oops. Meaning: Oops, sorry I hit your plane. Oops, sorry I hit your plane. Oops, sorry I hit your plane. Oops, sorry I hit your plane. Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bigger is better.
Cliff, My God, Cliff how lucky you are to have a wife like that, that can straighten out your "Mr. Smiley", 3 or 4 times a day and no glitches. What am I missing here? Jerry MillerSOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: Cliff's E-mail To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:23 AM Subject: [RCSE] Bigger is better. I wouldn't brag to much if its only 5 incheslong. My "Mr.Smiley" is 13 inches, its ribbed slightly on the shaft and its larger on the tip. Jealous, aren't you. It is slightlydrooped but I have my wife straighten it out for me and it performs as long as I need it to. Sometimes up to three or four times a day with no glitches. Cliff Lindgren - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 6:00 AM Subject: [RCSE] My Duck Doesn't duck, and its only 5" long Got my "Power Stick" from Hobby Lobby, its 5" long, doesn't droop, fits any radio (you need to get the adapter for 'inny' type antennas).Lets see if any of you have as much time on your droopies.I have flown with it in most states of the USA, Toronto, Germay, Switzerland, Czech.Slope and TD, on average around twice a week.When I first published the review on it in RC Soaring Digest "The Journal for RC Soaring Enthusiasts", some guys went out and got them too. Guess what???With mixed results. Some reported glitches!!! Some didn't.Now let's see, the stick is nothing more than probably a carbon tube with some wire wrapped in it and some shrink wrap. Each one the same as the otherSo how come the mixed results? Lots of reasons, none having to do with the Power Stick 'working'. By the way I use it both on my 8103 and Stylus.Just thought some of you would like to know, that my antenna doesn't still doesn't droop after all these years :-)GordyLouisville today
Re: [RCSE] CVRC Bent Wing
Perry, You must have the wrong webpage, they have complete details on the bentwing event at www.CVRCsoaring.com. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: Perry Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:27 AM Subject: [RCSE] CVRC Bent Wing Anyone have the particulars on this event??. I did not get anything in the mail and their web site seems to be sadly lacking in information, or maybe I have the wrong web site?? Regards,Perry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] LSF DS TASKS, for your approval
Sorry, I looked at the pictures, it is an Compact and 100. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JMiller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:12 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] LSF DS TASKS, for your approval Is the Wizard Conquest based off the Wizard Compact? I saw in a post somewhere else that Dave's plane was in the 60-100 span rather then unlimited, which was somewhat suprising. What span was it? At 07:08 PM 4/21/02 -0700, JMiller wrote: Guys, As is the case with me, but this weekend I did watch I would venture a wild guess of about 5000, yes thousand loops, done by the best in the world, yes world, Ebsen Torp was there from Norway, it was the 1st ever DS Slope Fest, sponsored/CD'd by Dieter of Shredair at Joe Wurts 10 fastest loops in a timed run, 15.6 seconds, big prize money, Barry Baskin Joe Wurts Scott Hewett V-tailed Stratos,About 30 to 45 minutes later Dave Reese of high speed fame, was flying (testing) a new model, a WIZARD Conquest at 186 MPH the V tail of the plane also ejected from it proper place, the fuse and wings did some incredible gyrations, flipped upside down, blew downwind, with Dave doing everything in his power to make it come down, including flaps, It may fly again, with new electronics. STRATOS, Joe summed it up today, an expensive weekend for me, just lucky I won the big money. I enjoyed watch and helping, but for me it's not my bag. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message -From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Brett Jaffee: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brett's Slope and Power Home Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee OnTheWay Quake 3 server utility: http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page: http://bjaffee.tripod.com/extra300/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Lost Found
Dudley, Who made the grade at California Valley? Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: Dudley Dufort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:30 AM Subject: [RCSE] Lost Found Found: One unopened bottle of Jagermeister, one L work shirt, a broken set of stabs from one SB/XC and many small pieces from another. Left in my trailer after the California Valley Cross Country Race. These may belong to Carl The Plane Wrecker. If anyone knows his whereabouts please contact me. Dudley RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: Spring Fling...
Ron, Don't know the W/L(what is it?) but that's why they have long legs, to extend and catch something to arrest their flight. Like a tow hook on an aircraft. Jerry MillerSOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Spring Fling... Whats the W/L of a grasshopper anyway? Whats the best way to applyballast?the undersignedMorton " Ron" Hafawitz
[RCSE] A Great Day
Hi guys, Boy, what a great day for thermals here in the Rogue Valley of Oregon. It started out a bit iffy, but the clouds opened up, and the air did it's cooking, thermals were abaundt. We were even blessed with what was my first steam thermal. The Certain-Teed plant across the road from where we sport fly was testing a new steam generating plant, made a pass into the steam at about 100 feet high, rode out the brables and started circling up, to a speck, really neat. My Pereigrene is really dailed in, even made 3 landings in 60 + area with a high one of 71. Wish I could have done that at Visalia. And Oregon almost beat Kansas, my home state. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Gear sets for JR servos
Hi, Anyone know who has gear sets for JR NES-341 servos? Need a couple of sets. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] re: wind meters
Barry, FWIW, I have had a Dwyer liars for about 15 years now. I have found that it is fairly accurate, at least for what we have to know at the slope. Most of the trick to using it is holding it properly, directly into the wind, and at a slight angle TOO the wind advancing up the slope. Has worked for me. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: Barry Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: [RCSE] re: wind meters Geez, don't waste your money. These wind meters are often referred to as Dwyer liars. I have one and found it useless. Barry Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:52:14 -0500 From: Andy Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wind Meters Message-ID: F45BA46231F3D511998B00A0C96F49D5E331@atgmail Just ran across these cheap wind meters and thought people would want to see them I have no experience with this company . ... http://www.intothewind.com/cgi-bin/detail.cgi?sql=windsort=name RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Jerry Slates at Viking?
Andy, That is correct. He has already sold some of them, before he left Texas. He didn't want to have to transport them to Calif. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: Andy Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Jerry Slates at Viking? Do you know how I can contact Jerry, I'm interested in one of his fuse's.. I understand, that he is no longer selling fuselages. Heard his molds were forsale. Can anyone confirm this? Andy _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Need canopy for Multiplex DG 600
Eric, Late in answering, computer has been down. I have one, BUT it is being used on my Multiplex DG-600, with a full size(scale)guider sitting in it, holding the stick. Sorry, for the humor. Jerry Miller SOSS, Medford, OR - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:57 PM Subject: [RCSE] Need canopy for Multiplex DG 600 Mid 80 vintage, 120 span without extensions, I know it's a long shot.. Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
