Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

stands for a proportion of 6 notes in the time of 4, for the next 6 notes; so it's possible do this: (6:4:4cd2``ef2 Best wishes. Hudson Lacerda But what's the apostrophe for? And what ascii character is it and how is it produced on keyboards anyway? -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Remo D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote: But what's the apostrophe for? And what ascii character is it and how is it produced on keyboards anyway? It's a back quote (ASCII 96) according the 2.0 draft is to be ignored: A`B is equivalent to AB. Whew. I

Re: [abcusers] Finale GHB

... -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

overseas shows. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

pounds or $112.50 The evaluation copy does not expire, but it simply prints across the output this is an evaluation copy printout. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland

Re: [abcusers] ABCp output data structure

of note length) then you're stuck with it. I wish I had more time to work on this. Thanks Remo for actually doing something! It will probably be done before I get a chance to roll up my sleeves. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians

Re: [abcusers] ABCp output data structure

text fields should go? Paul Rosen Just my 2p. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] On parsers again - Outlook PHP

at the same time as printing it. Ah, the good old days... -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] On parsers again - Outlook PHP

calculations, or when you only have F4 libraries of numerical analysis. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] Linux: NoteEdit 2.7.0: Triplets/arbitrary text

and export. But it's not free. 115 pounds or $170. You have to have special instructions from me on how to enable it as it's still somewhat under development, so I've not mentioned it on the information page. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software

Re: [abcusers] is there an ABC bluegrass archive?

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Not much bluegrass repertoire for baritone recorder, I guess, eh Jack? What's a baritone recorder? I only know Tenor and Bass in that sort of pitch. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music

Re: [abcusers] What software will translate this correctly?

. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] AlphabetSoup

century. Excellent and comprehensive. Complementary to Read, and in spite of the title there is much of traditional rules. Ross: The art of music engraving and processing. For the details on exact spacing and beaming angles and such detail. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music

Re: [abcusers] AlphabetSoup output data structures

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Neil | Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | Or, perhaps, by having a note object contain a list of (zero or | more) pitch objects rather than just one pitch value

Re: [abcusers] AlphabetSoup output data structures

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | Bernard Hill writes: | | That's a standard rule of music. You can't put black and white notes on | | the same stem for instance

Re: [abcusers] AlphabetSoup output data structures

number) field would be appropriate for the chord object. [better term than note object] -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser

Re: [abcusers] reusable parser - Why an Output Format?

to write an XML parser (or other) in comparison. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] reusable parser

in it. Then later you come back to change Program 3: maybe you even simply recompile it without improvement. But it's broken because the library has changed. Nope: once frozen in the library, NEVER change it. Always add a new API with a new name. Common sense. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software

Re: [abcusers] !Current specification!

any parser should produce ascii code and be self-contained, written as a command-line procedure using stdin and stdout abcparse inputfilename outputfilename The structure of the outputfile would probably obey some sort of XML language (although I hate it). -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps questions

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote: I don't think there should be any standard for paper size - you should be allowed to specify your own. I can symphatize with that view. There are some practical issues involved though. For example, when

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps questions

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 11:55:23AM +0100, Frank Nordberg wrote: Bernard Hill wrote: I don't think there should be any standard for paper size - you should be allowed to specify your own. I can symphatize with that view

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps questions

read. Isn't that the Bible Code? Bernard Hill Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Clarification wanted on abc draft standard 2.0 (fwd)

. So since they have a normal duration there is no reason why they can't have accents (although I've never actually seen one) and it's perfectly possible for a singer to articulate it. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians

Re: [abcusers] clef values

=G Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] bass clef and transposition

with that. The original took me a long time to understand what it meant. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] braces in brackets

violins) outside the bracket. [{Vln1 Vln2} Vla Vc DB] Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] braces in brackets

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | | %%staves [Fl1 Fl2] ... [V1 V2 Va Vc] [S A T B] [{HR HL} {OR OL OP}] | | String parts in an orchestral work are usually bracketed

Re: [abcusers] chords accidental semantics

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Please can we have yes and no instead of numbers that have to be looked up in a manual? 0 and 1 are universally Off and On. Check a modern radio, TV, video recorder or other electronic device sometime. Bernard Hill Braeburn

Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..The only regular place that barlines *are* drawn through is in keyboard work. This is not true. On orchestral and band scores barlines are commonly drawn through on groups of staves

Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

that insist on this visual aid. My comment was wrong. Checking my orchestral scores confirms Dave Webber's correction to my post. It's not just a keyboard thing. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http

Re: [abcusers] (uffa) Standards vs. quality...

because there was not a standard in existence at the point when extensions were needed. It should be clear that the two of us have different goals, but I don't think what we're doing is incompatible. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written

Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

between the associated staves. Example: %%staves Solo [(S A) (T B)] | {RH (LH1 LH2)} Shouldn't that be %%staves Solo [(S A) | (T B)] | {RH (LH1 LH2)} since the barline would interfere with any words sung. The only regular place that barlines *are* drawn through is in keyboard work. Bernard Hill

Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

, the default is not to join staves, but you can put a line between if you want barlines. Seems like a sensible idea. Do others agree? Seems obvious. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps and 'extras'

. Then alias them with one of the letters H--Z for use in the abc itself. This might be generally useful, since I gather that these also occur as tremolo markers in string music. Yes, and they're also used as trill/mordent symbols in early music. What, the slashed stems? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software

Re: [abcusers] Revising the ABC standard.

... ... is seconded by me. No votes, no committee. One level-headed fair maintainer who listens and then decides. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: Current state of ABC online

include advanced abcm2ps features like staff breaking, multicolumn, etc. Also, abcMIDI coverage is incomplete. This guide is only useful to those who want to know what they can do in practice with ABC. Enjoy, Guido =8-) URL? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system

Re: [abcusers] Higher notation anyone?

with 23/44! FWIW I have seen music with a t.s. of 3/3... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

actuall leaves also a c^. The point of the exp is to *override* the normal key sig of D. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

extensions that will have to wait for a following standardization attempt. Hear, hear! Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

good!) by just working from the standard. You *have* to make your standards document intelligible by normal musicians if you want the abc standard to be taken up by a wider musical community than that represented here. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software

[abcusers] Higher notation anyone?

stands. I note that Dave Webber of Mozart has been silent here for a good while and wonder if he has abandoned the projected implementation. I know that I have certainly been getting cold feet because of all the new features required. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill wrote on 29 Jul 2003 I did not say beginning of a piece I said beginning of a section. It has always been standard notation to assume the first repeat is from the beginning of the work. We are talking about

Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps and 'extras'

. :-( Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 11:41:39AM +0100, Bernard Hill wrote: Strange key sigs such as the above (while clear in intent) are very non-standard. Are they really necessary? I've never played from one and would actually

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: 5. No mention of midline What do you mean? Sorry, I abandoned a comment and forgot to complete it. I am thinking of the midline field in Clefs. I'm not sure what you mean. [K: clef

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

the music observing the repeats until you *have* put a |: in. (Excepting the first repeat of course). And I don't expect to remove that restriction. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Or K:E=f=c^G=d ? Longer, but maybe clearer. K:C ^g looks fine to me. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

of made-up key signatures described exactly in a K: format I don't see the point. Make that K:_b^f^c in your example above. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

it's | | :| |:.. | | :| or it's | | :| | | | | | :| | | | Remember cut-and-paste is easy in abc tunes so maybe we should do away with repeat signs entirely g Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music

Re: [abcusers] Re: ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

) for both. To mix ` (ascii 96) with ' is very untidy and illogical. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

not known in pipe music. They use a particular form of embellishment known generically as a doubling and it takes many forms, which are written out. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | | If I had my druthers, I'd put a rule in saying that beginnings of | repeated sections *must* be marked properly

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 05:11:44PM +0100, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes And from the abc source you have written K:A_b^f^c shouldn't that have a G

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

has no tonic, but a signature, which is _B. Maybe it's F or Dm. That one's logical. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

is the same as between a key signature and an accidental so should be easy for a musician to understand... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | My suggestion is that accidentals are in lower case, keys in upper. And | if the key name is missing then C is assumed. | | K:A ^b is F# C# G# and Bb. | K:A =c is F# and G# | K:_b^f is Bb and F# | | K:_b

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

that the Dutch are any stupider than the rest of us. There are known klezmer musicians in NL ... ;-) So what point are you making about the abc standard? I got a bit lost in that above :-) Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians

Re: Subject: Re: [abcusers] About the choice of '!'

obsolete program dictate the new standard is not a good one. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics

://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/ To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/list s.html Invisible barlines? Are you suggesting [|] as a non-printing barline? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http

Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?

it out. Suggestions are highly appreciated. Later, Guido =8-) You're going to have to remind us what u: does, I can find no mention of it... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk

Re: [abcusers] Chord length

I'm not versatile enough, it seems to me that a passage such as Dotted Half A Quarter A --- stems up Half F Half F--- stems down cannot be notated in abc as [] notation. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system

Re: [abcusers] Version 2.0.0 voice overlay and lyrics

other. Example: A2 E2 G2 A2|A B c d e f g a A A A A A A A A A G F E D C B, A,|] So what does that mean? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point

Re: [abcusers] Chord length

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson | Like you, I don't have very strong opinions here, it's not a thing | I've found a huge need for. But uses like [A4ce]2 would seem to be | fairly clear

Re: [abcusers] copyright sign

) is not sufficient. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

[abcusers] New draft special characters

and y? Paragraph marker §? (e) is cedilla C really to be \ c space c? Why not \c? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] New draft special characters

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes After a week away I'm reading the draft 2.0.0. Doubtless I will have other comments which I will make but simply the special characters: (a) I presume the list is not exhaustive. ie É (Capital E acute) and the like (b) I think

Re: [abcusers] New draft special characters

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: (a) I presume the list is not exhaustive. ie É (Capital E acute) and the The table only gives a number of examples for each class of supported accents. (b) I think we need a copyright

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arent Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] not to speak of hemisemidemiquavers It's actually hemidemisemiquavers. But my Australian customers explicly told me they use hdsqs. And 1/128th notes are semihemidemisemiquavers You

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes the UK inch had previously been been equal to 2.54muttermuttermutter cm, 2.539998 Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

also taught decimetres, dekametres, hectametres, centigrams, decigrams etc etc alongside centimetres. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes But if you measure it in, say, attoparsecs, this is the definition of a parsec (and of the atto- prefix). Love it! 1 attoparsec is approx 3.1cm or 1.2 ... as everyone knows g Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

thoughts? Arent [5] software developers I don't expect to *use* abc format in anger as it's not where I am musically, but I expect to understand it and serve others as I write abc interfaces to my software. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written

Re: (Getting OT)[abcusers] New standard(s)

upwards. In ensemble I have a top G and in solo work an F. (Haydn St Nicholas mass has a low Eb and then 2 bars later a top G for the undivided basses (!)) Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

a broader term in dancing, and it seems reasonable that barlines should divide the music into bars, not measures :-) Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | But if you measure it in, say, attoparsecs, | this is the definition of a parsec (and of the atto- prefix). | | Love it! 1

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: not to speak of hemisemidemiquavers It's actually hemidemisemiquavers. But my Australian customers explicly told me they use hdsqs. And 1/128th notes are semihemidemisemiquavers You

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

) combination, but I don't think this will work on Windoze or Mac systems. Why shouldn't it? Frank Nordberg http://www.musicaviva.com Er, why *should* it? And in fact it doesn't on Windows unless the program has been explicitly written to recognise these keystrokes. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software

Re: [abcusers] copyright sign

, but it could go in C:, A:, D: or B: as well. As long as you realise that (C) is not a copyright sign legally. The situation varies in different countries: some insist on © and some on the word Copyright which is why you sometimes see Copyright © Bernard Hill, 2003 etc Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author

Re: [abcusers] Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

or another completely new one should be used. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Use of !

. This would enable different writer to use either convention for future abc files as they wish. Seconded. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your

Re: [abcusers] Re: ABC sects

tentatively calls for the use of ! for this purpose. Probably because it wasn't in 1.x... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser

Re: [abcusers] Re: ABC sects

always use another one. What I want is an unambiguous definition of what a legal file may contain: *that* is the standard! You tell 'em, Dave :-) Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Novelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Anyway, here's an example: T:title W:music by ... W:words by ... N:sources, discography

Re: [abcusers] New standard(s)

on one line is legal? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] ABC sects

then? -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Acciaccaturas

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Calum Galleitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tuesday 15 July 2003 8:05 pm, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean-Francois Moine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Note that different lengths on grace notes are also handled by abcm2ps. For compatibility

Re: [abcusers] Re: Announcement: ABC 2.0.0 draft online

shown with no keysig and accidentals in front of every note instead. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: Surely a performer wants to know what the writer meant? And lack of repeat starts means there is no information as to how the tune was to be played, eg whether the whole tune repeated or just

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

... -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Acciaccaturas

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean-Francois Moine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:44:26 +0100, Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does abc have a separate way of notating acciaccaturas (the slashed grace note) as opposed to the appoggiatura (unslashed)? I think it exists only

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes John Norvell wrote: In this line BBe2A4 e2 :| Z ||! what does the Z mean? A Rest. But I wonder if it meas a whole bar rest (uppercase) - z8 is more usual assuming L:1/8 So is Z a new symbol for a full bar rest? Bernard

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

to know what the rules are: or allow the software to stop and ask. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 11:04:32AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together? It's not in the official standard or the draft

Re: [abcusers] A question about beams

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Skink does it the way you want. AFAIK, no other program will. Music Publisher does... soon to have abc import and export. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians

Re: [abcusers] Re: End of 2nd time bar

confused (read:an impossible or ambiguous instruction) and then stops. For both programs, correct the music and they're happy. Isn't this a completely reasonable way to carry on? Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:49:22PM -0400, Eric Galluzzo wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:11, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Where does this bang thing come from? ! was always

Re: [abcusers] Re: chord lengths

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, I remember pling! On my University maths course in the 1960s. Along with carrot as in A-carrot: upside down circumflex over an A. Caret (pronounced the French way rather than like

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

the user there's a mistake and asks for a fix before playing. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] End of 2nd time bar

ending each of the 1st/2nd time sections with a repeat sign __ __ ___ |1 ||2 ||3 |==:|==:|===|= Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

, but a fermata over a barline means a pause here and that has no meaning at the end, I suggest. Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your

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