Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] Approve the attic proposal

2022-03-28 Thread Paolo Vecchi
procedure is available at [Insert URL to a wiki page with the procedure here]. --- [1] (https://git-scm.com/docs/git-http-backend) [2] 1 for small, 3 for medium, and 6 developers for a large project -%<------ -- Paolo Vecchi -

Re: [board-discuss] Re: New draft of the proposal for in-house developers

2022-03-31 Thread Paolo Vecchi
l can help address the possible concerns. Regards, Hossein -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.o

Re: [board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2022-03-21

2022-03-31 Thread Paolo Vecchi
In the meeting:    Board Members - Cor Nouws, Jan Holešovský, Thorsten Behrens, Caolán McNamara, Emiliano Vavassori, Paolo Vecchi, Laszlo Nemeth    Board Deputy Members - Gabriel Masei, Gabor Kelemen    Membership Committee Members -    Membership Committee Substitute Members -    Team - Sophie

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Approve the attic proposal

2022-03-31 Thread Paolo Vecchi
-- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https

Re: [board-discuss] Preliminary budget for 2022

2022-04-04 Thread Paolo Vecchi
List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- *Simon Phipps* /Office:/+1 (415) 683-7660 /or/ +44 (238) 098 7027 /Signal/Mobile/:  +44 774 776 2816/ / -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Director

[board-discuss] Representation statement

2022-04-05 Thread Paolo Vecchi
I, Paolo Vecchi, elected member of the Board of Directors of The Document Foundation, hereby and until further notice, nominate the following deputies to represent me during board calls and meetings, in the order set forth below: 1. Ayhan Yalçınsoy 2. Gabriel Masei 3. Gábor Kelemen Ciao

Re: [board-discuss] New draft of the proposal for in-house developers

2022-03-29 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Mark On 27/03/2022 08:34, Mark Hung wrote: Hi Paolo, Paolo Vecchi 於 2022年3月27日 週日 上午12:34寫道:     Hi Mark,     It's a long term employment project, that's why I asked the board     to not consider it as a budget line (like tenders) but as a long     term strategic investment. I

Re: [board-discuss] Translation as part of the attic policy

2022-03-29 Thread Paolo Vecchi
ally, we can't simply atticize a language, which are subdirectories in the helpcontent2 and translation git repositories] Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bür

[board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-07 Thread Paolo Vecchi
iao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details:https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [board-discuss] Re: Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
decision for TDF and our community. Ciao Paolo On 08/02/2022 17:01, sophi wrote: Hi Paolo, Le 07/02/2022 à 19:16, Paolo Vecchi a écrit : Hi all, Thanks for discussing your proposal here. Just wanted to add a few words within your lines, so jumping here: [...]   * Members of the ecosystem

Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Kendy, thanks for participating to the discussion. On 08/02/2022 16:41, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Hi all, Paolo Vecchi píše v Po 07. 02. 2022 v 19:16 +0100: Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs My candidacy statement

Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-09 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details:https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-09 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Cor, do you mind explaining to us what you mean with the sentence below? On 08/02/2022 22:32, Cor Nouws wrote: I'm far from convinced that it leads to anything good when a foundation tries to bend the forces that drive a commercial market. Cheers, Cor Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi

Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-09 Thread Paolo Vecchi
corporate participation, e.g. by sponsoring individuals to work as equals alongside other contributors in the community." https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/msg0.html All the best, Kendy Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The D

Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-10 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, On 10/02/2022 12:59, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Hi *, Paolo Vecchi wrote: On 09/02/2022 15:57, Jan Holesovsky wrote: It is important to understand that "community" means "contributors"; as opposed to "users". "Users" are not part of the "c

Re: [board-discuss] Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house developers to address our donors specific needs

2022-02-10 Thread Paolo Vecchi
void cluster risk in the TDF bodies. And one thing which I take with me from this discussion is the evidence that it is (nearly?) impossible to wear two hats at the same time. Regards, Andreas -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Paolo Ve

Re: [board-discuss] Looking forward, not backwards (was: Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online)

2022-01-14 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Thorsten, On 14/01/2022 16:27, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Paolo Vecchi wrote: So, to conclude, this "distraction" has actually helped the board in dealing with a situation which impaired its freedom to act in a well informed and structured way and created a new situation whe

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-18 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Cor, I'm sorry to say it in public but I'm honestly appalled by your comment which shows your insensitivity to the matter that is being discussed and is providing an example of how disinformation works. On 17/01/2022 23:32, Cor Nouws wrote: Paolo Vecchi wrote on 15/01/2022 20:56: Maybe

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-18 Thread Paolo Vecchi
stment that they and TDF made on LOOL and at present we are unable to offer answers as we didn't clarify the process and the rules in advance. Is there any other suggestions on how to deliver LOOL to our members of the community? Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Dir

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-21 Thread Paolo Vecchi
o/post/faq/#creators may be interesting too; all of that a year+ old. ATB,     Michael. -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal deta

Re: [board-discuss] Draft text: an "attic" proposal

2022-01-07 Thread Paolo Vecchi
talks with a valuable member of the ecosystem so that it can have an opportunity to fulfil its side of the agreement. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des

Re: [board-discuss] Draft text: an "attic" proposal

2022-01-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
already expressed my opinion but when it comes to voting I will (from the 18/02/2020) represent only 1 vote. It's up to you and the rest of the community to send a clear message so that the members of the board will listen and vote for a proposal that matters to all of you. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo

Re: [board-discuss] Draft text: an "attic" proposal

2022-01-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
including you. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description

Re: [board-discuss] Draft text: an "attic" proposal

2022-01-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
evaluating if a way forward for LOOL can be found. Ciao Paolo (1) https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00029.html -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnütz

Re: [board-discuss] Looking forward, not backwards (was: Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online)

2022-01-19 Thread Paolo Vecchi
or a member of staff for further evaluation. Ciao Paolo On 19/01/2022 11:33, Michael Weghorn wrote: Hi, On 14/01/2022 20.24, Paolo Vecchi wrote: Personally, I'm not interested in playing zero-sum games (taking development away from the ecosystem, and re-patriating it into TDF). Instead, we ne

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
two hats (on different sides of the table). Regards, Andreas Am 21.01.22 um 19:10 schrieb Paolo Vecchi: And also: https://web.archive.org/web/20160320072620/https://www.collaboraoffice.com/community-news/libreoffice-online-questions-answered-what-who-how-and-when/ Maybe also that gave some

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
entally new or different ideas on how to deal with stale projects Everything else is badly off-topic on this thread (and very likely even on this list). For general discussions, please do move that over to our disc...@documentfoundation.org list. Cheers, Thorsten -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Me

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-26 Thread Paolo Vecchi
s, go back to my first mail here and reply to that. ATB Marco Il 25/01/22 21:34, Thorsten Behrens ha scritto: Hi Paolo, Paolo Vecchi wrote: In regard to your questions: [references to earlier emails] I'll follow up on the board list also with the proposal to look more in detail at wh

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-26 Thread Paolo Vecchi
been left with not many options unless other members of the board and the community come up with some practical options. All the best, -- Thorsten Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnüt

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-14 Thread Paolo Vecchi
a lot of resources, but we have done nothing to share them during the critical period families and students were fronting. Cheers Sophie -- Paolo Vecchi - Deputy Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des

Re: [board-discuss] Mailing List Moderation

2022-04-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Dear Simon, I believe is much better to have open discussions than trying to keep hiding the fact that there are issues that some seem less inclined to see solved. If long-established contributors want to keep doing something that is sub-optimal then I believe that others should speak out

Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] approval of preliminary budget for 2022

2022-04-06 Thread Paolo Vecchi
for tenders, which are discussed with only not connected board members (deputies). Thus they could bit for tenders from the budget for 2023 at the earliest. Regards, Andreas -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Paolo Vecchi - Member

Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] approval of preliminary budget for 2022

2022-04-06 Thread Paolo Vecchi
and discussed in the private board meeting on 2022-03-28 The vote runs until Monday, April 11, 0800 Berlin time (0600 UTC). -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Dear Mr Meeks, thank you for providing your opinion as the general manager of one of our 2 commercial contributors. I really appreciate the technical contributions that your employees/affiliates provide while formulating request for tenders, rank them in the ESC, rank them in the board of

Re: end-thread please (was: [board-discuss] [VOTE] approval of preliminary budget for 2022)

2022-04-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, it would be great if someone would stop to unilaterally declare that a very informative thread should end. Censorship does not help in moving forward and we should show that we respect the freedom that anyone should have to express their opinion (possibly backed by facts and

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-10 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, On 10/04/2022 15:01, Cor Nouws wrote: And while not always perfect, I'm convinced that we are doing a great job in working in a fair, compliant, and transparent way. The system is clearly not perfect and it has been said that changes are necessary for a long time so the fact that

[board-discuss] In-house developers proposal v 2.1

2022-05-30 Thread Paolo Vecchi
ence TDF's employees. Meetings with the ESC will provide useful exchange of information which will be evaluated by our mentors and our ED to take decisions as described in the proposal. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 1

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal concerns

2022-05-31 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Paolo, Paolo Vecchi píše v Po 30. 05. 2022 v 13:44 +0200: While TDF is committed to working with members of the commercial ecosystem in a mutually beneficial relationship it should be made clear that third parties and suppliers (commercial contributors) should not limit what a charitable

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-23 Thread Paolo Vecchi
iao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-23 Thread Paolo Vecchi
HI, On 23/05/2022 14:01, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Paolo, Paolo Vecchi wrote on 23/05/2022 13:07: On 23/05/2022 12:57, Cor Nouws wrote: It is not the responsibility of the board to micromanage the team. To evaluate the quality of your proposal. It would have been the responsibility of other

Re: Please take personal conflict off-list (was: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF)

2022-06-02 Thread Paolo Vecchi
seem to be able to impose their will should not direct TDF's employees in any way at all. I've asked the board to evaluate the situation to see if further actions should be taken. Thanks a lot, -- Thorsten Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Founda

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-01 Thread Paolo Vecchi
companies attend the meetings usually). Regards, Andreas -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-02 Thread Paolo Vecchi
mentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.doc

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-13 Thread Paolo Vecchi
. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-13 Thread Paolo Vecchi
for some issues or old bugs that aren't getting the right amount of attention by others, and I totally agree that languages and accessibility should be given priority over this. Best regards, Tuomas Hietala Thanks again for your contributions. Ciao Paolo Paolo Vecchi kirjoitti 12.5.2022 15

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-13 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Caolan, On 13/05/2022 13:51, Caolán McNamara wrote: On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 14:29 +0200, Paolo Vecchi wrote: Hi all, after receiving quite a few comments and suggestions it seems like is time to publish what, hopefully, is the final version of the proposal to add 2 in-house developers

[board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
shortly after. Thank you all for your contributions! Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-23 Thread Paolo Vecchi
out for the board to confirm they listen to our community by approving the the proposal. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-23 Thread Paolo Vecchi
? Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-23 Thread Paolo Vecchi
/board-discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg05567.html https://www.mail-archive.com/board-discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg05579.html Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des

Re: [board-discuss] Objective: Postponing Hiring TDF-Developer To 2024 or Later?

2022-05-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
em to be forming a clear opinion about it. Best regards, Michael [1] https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00357.html [2] https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00209.html Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directo

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi, On 25/05/2022 12:48, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Hi Paolo, all, Paolo Vecchi wrote: On 25/05/2022 10:19, Thorsten Behrens wrote: To reiterate the question, is that something the two of you would be willing to collaborate on? It seems like you missed my previous answer: https

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
explain the rationale? Why are you saying that now we have to create a 3rd proposal? Then as far as I can see there is 1 proposal to employ two developers and suddenly a new proposal appeared to employ 1 mentor, what is the 3rd one for? Cheers, -- Thorsten Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
free to fix stuff in case you find anything wrong. All the best, Kendy -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org

Re: [board-discuss] Proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Kendy, On 25/05/2022 14:18, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Hi Paolo, Paolo Vecchi píše v St 25. 05. 2022 v 13:41 +0200: Michael Meeks made a completely different proposal to employ a mentor. That is not my reading of the proposal. You may have missed a few details: The proposal is: "

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-28 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi, On 27/05/2022 12:31, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Hi Paolo, all, Paolo Vecchi wrote: That document clearly contains another proposal which should go its own way instead of trying to make it pass as a "merged" proposal. The intention here (and I would very much like to support

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-05-27 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Kendy, On 26/05/2022 17:08, Jan Holesovsky wrote: TDF-In-House-Developers-Proposal-v2.1.odt what you wrote in that document has completely changed the logic of the proposal so please do rename that file in something that relates better to its content. That document clearly contains

Re: [board-discuss] Work On Update LOOL (was Re: LOOL is about to be archived)

2022-06-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
to help each others. Cheers Sophie Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscr

Re: [board-discuss] Work On Update LOOL (was Re: LOOL is about to be archived)

2022-06-25 Thread Paolo Vecchi
r the TDF umbrella. Regards, Andreas Am 21.06.22 um 14:15 schrieb Paolo Vecchi: Hi all, just a heads up in case the community would like to come up with proposals in regards to LibreOffice On-Line. As you might be aware LOOL's repository has been frozen since the major code contributo

Re: [board-discuss] Work On Update LOOL (was Re: LOOL is about to be archived)

2022-06-23 Thread Paolo Vecchi
ry to make a proposal for the further process to get LOOL back under the TDF umbrella. Regards, Andreas Am 21.06.22 um 14:15 schrieb Paolo Vecchi: Hi all, just a heads up in case the community would like to come up with proposals in regards to LibreOffice On-Line. As you might be aware LOOL's repo

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Delayed atticization for LibreOffice Online

2022-07-07 Thread Paolo Vecchi
for evaluation? Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Delayed atticization for LibreOffice Online

2022-07-07 Thread Paolo Vecchi
our effort. Regards, Andreas Ciao Paolo -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bü

Re: [board-discuss] Work On Update LOOL (was Re: LOOL is about to be archived)

2022-07-03 Thread Paolo Vecchi
ate the measures that should be implemented to correctly deal with issues and proposals. Cheers, -- Thorsten Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen

Re: [board-discuss] Another "merged" proposal of in-house developers

2022-06-27 Thread Paolo Vecchi
commercial contributors. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Delayed atticization for LibreOffice Online

2022-07-04 Thread Paolo Vecchi
were (in alphabetical order): Ayhan, Caolán, Cor, Emiliano, Gabriel, Kendy, László, Thorsten -- Thorsten -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: h

Re: [board-discuss] re-discovering the Foundation roots?

2022-07-04 Thread Paolo Vecchi
/the-document-foundation-officially-incorporated-in-berlin-germany/) That could help new members of the board in understanding what they have to take in consideration while performing their duties. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation

Re: [board-discuss] Work On Update LOOL (was Re: LOOL is about to be archived)

2022-07-01 Thread Paolo Vecchi
ime to have also TDF branded connectors for NextCloud, ownCloud, Univention, etc. so that users would have a choice (naturally notifying that supported/enterprise version were available from our members of the ecosystem) but unfortunately that choice has been removed from them. All th

[board-discuss] Re: [tdf-internal] Board Discuss being moderated

2022-07-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
in public. And yes, I'm all for discussing it in the board carefully now first. Obviously. So what was the point of asking the community if it would be OK to do it if it has been already done? Cheers, Cor Ciao Paolo Paolo Vecchi wrote on 08/07/2022 19:13: not sure if this email is going

Re: [board-discuss] Whether technical moderation of this list is needed

2022-07-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
; if sentences are not understood in their context and with a bit of background information. Following long discussions might be a bit of a pain but one can take informed decisions only if has a wider understanding of the issues. Cheers, -- Thorsten Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Membe

[board-discuss] Another "merged" proposal of in-house developers

2022-06-22 Thread Paolo Vecchi
orm us of what is necessary. Development contracts present in the other proposal will follow the due tendering process. I hope that the rationale for not including certain areas, terms and limitations is clear to all in this "merged" proposal and that we can proceed in finding great ca

[board-discuss] LibreOffice in app stores free, paid or both?

2022-07-11 Thread Paolo Vecchi
in writing and also having you in the meeting to share your point of view. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https

Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice in app stores free, paid or both?

2022-07-11 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Laszlo, On 11/07/2022 17:38, laszlo.nem...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi Paolo, Hi All, On 2022-07-11 15:52, Paolo Vecchi wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to ask the community how they think LibreOffice should be published in the various app stores. Should it be: a. available at a cost b

Re: [board-discuss] Another "merged" proposal of in-house developers

2022-06-29 Thread Paolo Vecchi
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Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Delayed atticization for LibreOffice Online

2022-07-06 Thread Paolo Vecchi
not clear what you mean with it or to what/whom you are referring to. Regards, Andreas Ciao Paolo -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188

Re: [board-discuss] Re: LOOL is about to be archived

2022-06-24 Thread Paolo Vecchi
er reliving LOOL all developers are welcomed to contribute to LOOL. Details can be discussed with OSSII. Regards, Franklin -- *Simon Phipps* /TDF Trustee/ -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemein

Re: [board-discuss] Re: LOOL is about to be archived

2022-06-24 Thread Paolo Vecchi
(and OxOOL community version too). Of course, after reliving LOOL all developers are welcomed to contribute to LOOL. Details can be discussed with OSSII. Regards, Franklin Paolo Vecchi 於 2022/6/21 20:15 寫道: Hi all, just a heads up in case the community would like to come

Re: [board-discuss] Re: LOOL is about to be archived

2022-06-24 Thread Paolo Vecchi
. Juni 2022 11:29:16 MESZ schrieb Paolo Vecchi : Hi Franklin, thanks for the great proposal. As the LOOL archival discussion is planned for Monday I'll ask the board to modify the agenda to start discussing your' and Andreas' proposal. There is a lot that needs

[board-discuss] Re: LOOL is about to be archived

2022-06-24 Thread Paolo Vecchi
ixes will be back ported to LOOL (and OxOOL community version too). Of course, after reliving LOOL all developers are welcomed to contribute to LOOL. Details can be discussed with OSSII. Regards, Franklin Paolo Vecchi 於 2022/6/21 20:15 寫道: Hi all, just a heads up in case the community would

Re: [board-discuss] Re: In-house developers proposal v 2.1

2022-06-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Michael, I prefer to avoid going into details as people should draw their conclusions by looking at timing and people involved by looking at the ESC meeting minutes and your proposal. On 08/06/2022 10:40, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Paolo, On 08/06/2022 09:18, Paolo Vecchi wrote

Re: [board-discuss] Re: In-house developers proposal v 2.1

2022-06-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, On 08/06/2022 00:57, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Paolo, Paolo Vecchi wrote on 08/06/2022 00:31: On 07/06/2022 21:40, Simon Phipps wrote: Kendy made a merged version and shared it with us all... No, once again he took my document and copy/pasted bits of Michael Meeks proposal

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] TDF to publish LibreOffice in app stores

2022-06-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
presented by default. -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-03 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Cor, On 03/06/2022 13:16, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Paolo, Paolo Vecchi wrote on 03/06/2022 11:53: ... Another reason why I did not want to share my proposal open for editing to anyone is that it might happen that someone writes something that should not be written in a public document. We

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-03 Thread Paolo Vecchi
l ensuring that there will be a level playing field so that any organisation will be able to participate. Cheers Simon -- *Simon Phipps* /TDF Trustee/ Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige re

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
at you will help them with unbiased information in future instead of attacking them because they haven't conformed with your views. Sincerely, Simon -- *Simon Phipps* /TDF Trustee/ Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 18

Re: [Meta] Discussing in board-discuss [ was: Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF]

2022-06-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
is there. Cheers, -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss

Re: [Meta] Discussing in board-discuss [ was: Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF]

2022-06-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
ink there should be more people like him to keep the board in check and make sure we don't get too complacent or reliant on a narrative coming from only one source. Cheers Simon -- *Simon Phipps* /TDF Trustee/ Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document

[board-discuss] LOOL is about to be archived

2022-06-21 Thread Paolo Vecchi
[0] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2022-June/088982.html [1] https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2022-June/089018.html [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Attic -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm

Re: [board-discuss] Re: In-house developers proposal v 2.1

2022-06-07 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Simon, On 07/06/2022 21:40, Simon Phipps wrote: Kendy made a merged version and shared it with us all... No, once again he took my document and copy/pasted bits of Michael Meeks proposal on it to completely change the logic of the proposal. That proposal doesn't really fit with the

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-09 Thread Paolo Vecchi
TDF during the past 7 years shows the risks we may incur when different interests influence TDF and our community. As such, lets please get back to the topic. Paolo Vecchi wrote: With a very odd timing the 02/06/2022 Mr Meeks added to the ESC agenda, during the meeting, the request

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-11 Thread Paolo Vecchi
it ASAP. Regards, Andreas Ciao Paolo -- ## Free Software Advocate ## Plone add-on developer ## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftu

Re: [board-discuss] no obvious double-standards (was: List Moderation - Apply Double Standards?)

2022-07-19 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Cor, On 19/07/2022 17:49, Cor Nouws wrote: that is spreads misinformation about what the CoI policy is for please do explain to us what you think the Conflict of Interest Policy is for as some might have got it completely wrong then. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board

[board-discuss] Re: [tdf-internal] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree

2022-07-13 Thread Paolo Vecchi
LibreOffice, por privacidad, seguridad y control de mis datos. Da un vistazo a la mejor suite de oficina: https://es.libreoffice.org O únete a la Comunidad Hispana: https://matrix.to/#/#hispanos:documentfoundation.org -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Offer AppStore LibreOffice for a fee

2022-07-13 Thread Paolo Vecchi
, further work, marketing & development needs we should discuss in the following weeks. Florian -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: h

Re: [board-discuss] no obvious double-standards (was: List Moderation - Apply Double Standards?)

2022-07-15 Thread Paolo Vecchi
ing list, the moderation put in place is of no use and it should just be removed to stop giving the impression that some members of the board don't want uncomfortable, but sometimes needed, discussions in public. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Founda

Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] TDF to change composition of legal oversight group

2022-07-22 Thread Paolo Vecchi
, GDPR, trademarks” shall be replaced by the new members Caolán McNamara, Emiliano Vavassori and Paolo Vecchi. (All other oversight groups remain unchanged.) We hereby call for the following VOTE, which will start Friday, 2022-07-29 00:00 UTC+2/CEST and will then run for 72h. This vote is proposed

Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] TDF to change composition of legal oversight group

2022-07-22 Thread Paolo Vecchi
” shall be replaced by the new members Caolán McNamara, Emiliano Vavassori and Paolo Vecchi. (All other oversight groups remain unchanged.) We hereby call for the following VOTE, which will start Friday, 2022-07-29 00:00 UTC+2/CEST and will then run for 72h. This vote is proposed by all members

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, May 2nd at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+2)

2022-04-29 Thread Paolo Vecchi
have to avoid doubts that the interests of their employers influences their choices. True that the ESC ranking gets ranked again in the board but having once again the representatives of the same organisations also in the board may influence the ranking. Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] Delayed atticization for LibreOffice Online

2022-08-02 Thread Paolo Vecchi
check the progress and start contributing to? Regards, Andreas Ciao Paolo -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https

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