FYI on CF5 and NTJavaConsole

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Just thought I'd share a bit of digging I finally got around to. Was having huge issues with CPU spikes and memory hogging with the NTJavaConsole service on my Win2K machine ... and I'm not runing a copy of JRun. I knew I'd seen the problem addressed before, but couldn't remember how to stop it,

RE: He he He

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
cute. |-Original Message- |From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | http://www.eugenemirman.com/ | __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion

RE: Porn propoganda?

2002-04-02 Thread Frank Priest
Or Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson:-) I wonder what they consider porn? It could be the Hawaiian Tropic Bikini contest for all we know. __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in

ARGHS!!!!

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
We aren't scheduled for any rain until Friday ARGHS! I'm so tired of all this sun! I need some good drenching rain!!! I thought this was the rainy country! I'm going to muffin-pan bap the next friend of mine from the states that says, (mimics whiny, know-it-all-voice) You'd better like the

RE: Buffy DVDs

2002-04-02 Thread Mike Townend
Hah UK Rulz We'er on season 3 here Hope this hasn't already been posted... 232 unread emails still to go -Original Message- From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 March 2002 21:18 To: CF-Community Subject: Buffy DVDs to MikeyD and the Buffy fans on the

RE: ARGHS!!!!

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
didn't it rain yesterday where you are? -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 10:38 To: CF-Community Subject: ARGHS We aren't scheduled for any rain until Friday ARGHS! I'm so tired of all this sun! I need some good

RE: ARGHS!!!!

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
NO! No rain! Not a drop. Just clouds and/or sun. grumble Erika |-Original Message- |From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: 02 April 2002 11:10 |To: CF-Community |Subject: RE: ARGHS | | |didn't it rain

Go Terps!

2002-04-02 Thread Raley, Scott
Go Terps! Woo Hoo! __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists

RE: Go Terps!

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
terps?? -Original Message- From: Raley, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 12:46 To: CF-Community Subject: Go Terps! Go Terps! Woo Hoo! __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by

RE: Go Terps!

2002-04-02 Thread Raley, Scott
Maryland -Original Message- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:16 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Go Terps! terps?? -Original Message- From: Raley, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 12:46 To: CF-Community Subject: Go

RE: Go Terps!

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
basketball, did they just win something? -Original Message- From: Raley, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 13:41 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Go Terps! Maryland -Original Message- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002

RE: Ok ok...the glasses..

2002-04-02 Thread Raymond Camden
Just an FYI, I added a picture of myself and my son. Notice the cheeto ring around his mouth. : -rc -Original Message- From: Greenwood, Erin E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:15 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Ok ok...the glasses.. You look cute

RE: Buffy DVDs

2002-04-02 Thread Greenwood, Erin E.
Meanie! e -Original Message- From: Mike Townend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:58 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Buffy DVDs Hah UK Rulz We'er on season 3 here Hope this hasn't already been posted... 232 unread emails still to go

RE: Somebody send me a muffin

2002-04-02 Thread krisch
Vermont Maple Syrup. M. Kristine C. Hege 463-2111 ext. 232 The definition of an upgrade: Take old bugs out, put new ones in. On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Braver, Ben wrote: Hey, we can have a regional US potluck feast: SF Dungeness Crab and sourdough, Napa Valley wine Philly Cheesesteak

Guinea Pig Theatre

2002-04-02 Thread Greenwood, Erin E.
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Spin Doctors..

2002-04-02 Thread Jeffry Houser
http://www.spindoctors.com/ Ohmygod... that looks like the original line-up. Anyone know anything about that? -- Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a Web Developer? Contact me! AIM: Reboog711 | Fax / Phone: 860-223-7946 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Band:

Re: He he He

2002-04-02 Thread Todd
ummm .. that's got to be one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen. Todd - Original Message - From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:44 PM Subject: He he He http://www.eugenemirman.com/

Nanodrive Uses Insect Parts

2002-04-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s=1500a=24809,00.asp These people may have too much time on their hands. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930

Re: Punish Arafat: Seize his visa

2002-04-02 Thread Todd
Take his American Express too. You know .. you can't leave home without it. Todd - Original Message - From: Howard Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:19 AM Subject: Punish Arafat: Seize his visa

RE: SpinDoctors

2002-04-02 Thread webmaster
Hey jeff --- Good call, but definitely not the original lineup. Looks like the first drummer moved on, probably means a departure from the funk undercurrents in exchange for more classic rock beat -- thought the singer had suffered a heartattack just after there national tour. Excellent time

Re: Pot Luck (was RE: Somebody send me a muffin)

2002-04-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
After last months graphic link post, I figured I made God kill all the kittens. Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/02 06:32PM God kills a kitten ;) Todd - Original Message - From: Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:04

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread mo mansour
How can Israel be wrong when all it is trying to do is defend its citizens against immoral attacks? H. And blowing up people and detaining and terrorizing, and starvation,and cutting off the basic human needs to exist and executing who they want and leaving nothing undestroyed in their path is

What are They thinking?

2002-04-02 Thread Sandra Clark
Interesting Fairly neutral spin on the whole mess. http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020408/arafat.html __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community.

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Church officials denied a report by the Rome-based missionary news service Misna that a 65-year-old Italian priest, Jacques Amateis, was killed in the Santa Maria Convent. The priest was well, officials said.

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
The fault of those dead prists and nuns lies squarely with the Palistinians (and I see a post from MD saying it didn't happen, citing a credible news source). They (the Palistinians) are the terrorists. They have brought it on with their totally unjustified suicide bombings. Israel is acting in

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
They (the Palistinians) are the terrorists. Surely the issue of whether they are terrorists depends on your perspective of the situation? I'm not condoning anything, its just an observation -Original Message- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 16:45 To:

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Todd
Agreed. I'm the colonists that rebeled against England were considered terrorists at the time. Probably still could be. Todd - Original Message - From: Mark Smyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: RE: Why (Re: They

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
But as colonists, we attacked their military, not their civilian population. Biig difference. At 10:52 AM 4/2/02, you wrote: Agreed. I'm the colonists that rebeled against England were considered terrorists at the time. Probably still could be. Todd - Original Message - From:

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
I understand you're not condoning ... but it doesn't depend on perspective, it depends on a clear use of the English language -- attacking civilian targets with the intent to kill, harass, discourage -- um, terrorize, is terrorism. Attacking military targets (whether civilians become collateral

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
What examples do you have of US terroism (other than punished war crimes, of which there are a few). Or let me refine further -- leave out the over zealous actions of individual soliders, whether punished or not. H. -Original Message- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Nick McClure
More like treasonist. They didn't do too much killing of the women and children, and no suicide bombings. They only attacked people with ties to the British Government, mostly military ties, a few people with monetary ties, like tax collectors and the customs officers. At 10:52 AM 4/2/2002

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
Illogical and wrong. The colonists attacked military and government targets. H. -Original Message- From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Agreed. I'm the colonists that rebeled against

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Another example of terrorism: British suffragists early last century. (Just finished reading a book on this subject - they were some SCARY women!) Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/02 10:57AM More like treasonist. They didn't do too much killing of the women and children, and no

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Will Swain
Interesting point are you saying that a terrorist is someone who attacks civilians? generally in the past, civilians have not been targeted in time of conflict or war. For example, in WW1 about 5% of all causalities were civilian. Obviously this has changed during the 20th century, maybe

RE: Ok ok...the glasses..

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
Gel- as the airlines found a long time ago, all you get when you give coffee to a drunk is a wide-awake drunk !! it does not make you less intoxicated or better able to drive. glad ya got home safely, but a better idea would be to stay at the g/f's house until you were sober. and maybe

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Will Swain
Welll.. How about, for starters, the US involvement in Nicaragua with the Contras, whom Reagan himself referred to as 'freedom fighters'? Here is a brief timeline: 1981: The US ends aid to Nicaragua after finding evidence that Nicaragua, Cuba, and the Soviet Union are supplying arms to

RE: Porn propoganda?

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
H. Good bad pun. Hey, we can send them the movie Babe to irritate them. :-) -Ben -Original Message- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:07 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Porn propoganda? I had the same thoughts ... or maybe

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Todd
OK .. bad analogy. But .. had they access to the british civilian population at large, I wonder what would be in the histroy books .. Todd - Original Message - From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: Re:

RE: Go Terps!

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
with the rioting I'd say TWERPS or worse. -Original Message- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:16 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Go Terps! terps?? -Original Message- From: Raley, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02

RE: ARGHS!!!!

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
We're not scheduled until Friday either. So all week when we're at work it's sunny and dry. And Friday when we're going to the mountains (Tahoe) it looks like they might get snow. NOT fair! -Ben -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
OK if its a matter of fact, how come american civilians donated so much money to the IRA. The IRA attacked civilians, the only difference being they were a safe distance away from the blast when it went off. I still think its a matter of perspective, the palestinians obviously feel they have a

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
Civilized nations and peoples do not target civilians. And as weapons become more advanced, civilian causalities decrease. Look at Afghanistan as an example. There are neighborhoods where all but one house remains untouched. That one house, all of the residents say, was occupied by a known

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
Heard a story on the radio from the Islamic Conference in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The moderate Malaysian Prime Minister proposed condemning any killing of civilians as terrorism. Found this: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=514u=/ap/20020402/ap_on_re_ mi_ea

Microsoft/Unisys

2002-04-02 Thread Ledwith, Brian
Funny thing I saw today... Microsoft/Unisys's Unix-bashing ad campaign http://www.wehavethewayout.com is actually powered by FreeBSD! http://news.com.com/2100-1001-872266.html ~bgl -- Brian Ledwith Stupefying...prodigious...asinine... --Mac

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Will Swain
yup..and my original point was that it could be argued that US governments, and British governments too, have supported terrorism. The contras were certainly terrorists in the eyes of the elected leader of Nicaragua, and they were financially and militarily supported by the US. I'm not sure how

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
US citizens donating to terrorist causes does not mean the US supports or condones terrorism. US citizens are largely free to give to whatever groups they like, regardless of how stupid and misguided those donations might be. Just because the bombers view themselves as freedom fighters, and just

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
There were plenty of colonists who supported the King. They could have been terrorist targets, but weren't. Some returned to England. Some rode out the war and eventually became good US citizens. H. -Original Message- From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
not true groups normally turn to attacking civilian targets because they do no have the ability to attack military ones, due to small numbers, lack of weaponry etc This is evidance of this in american (the guy that was executed for the bombing in the US, i think it was oklahoma) and from the

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
what about hiroshima -Original Message- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:23 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Civilized nations and peoples do not target civilians. And as weapons become more advanced, civilian

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Will Swain
why then is it a fact that in general MORE civilians die in conflicts and wars now than did at the start of the 20th century? That is one of the acknowledged shifts in the nature of conflict through the 20th century. I can point you in the direction of plenty of supporting reading material if

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Will Swain
quite. -Original Message- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:25 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) what about hiroshima -Original Message- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:23

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
The Contras largely went after military targets, or targets they believed to act in some manner of support of the government. I'm no fan of the Contras or US action in Nicarague, but they were not terrorists. So, you're not being obvious at all. H. -Original Message- From: Will Swain

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Todd
Dresden Todd - Original Message - From: Mark Smyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) what about hiroshima -Original Message- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL

bill, oh no!

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2002/LAW/1/4/gates.murder.01/index.html Mark Smyth Developer SystemsUnion.Net 00 44 1865 880800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.systemsunion.net __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
recall that former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin was a freedom fighter in the Irgun during the struggle for Israeli independence after WWII. However, the target of the freedom fighters was the British Military. This in my opinion separates a freedom fighter from a terrorist who attacks

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Todd
Funny you should mention all of that. I just got done reading this: The Psychology of Terrorism http://www.ssrc.org/sept11/essays/mccauley.htm Todd - Original Message - From: Mark Smyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:24 AM

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
Hey! What we need for peace is a Middle East version of Lysistrata - the women say until we get peace, you're not getting any !! -Ben -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:13 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why (Re: They

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Will Swain
so what were they? All you are doing is serving to highlight my original point, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. a definition of terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
London -Original Message- From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:33 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Dresden Todd - Original Message - From: Mark Smyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
Good point ... And I've never been comfortable with bombing cities, as was common on all sides during WWII, but often within those cities were legitimate military targets (such as factories), and it was much harder then to target just the factories. In the calculus of the times, dropping nukes

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
You still haven't provided a reason as to why this isn't terrorism. In fact, your last graph only supports the definition of terrorism. H. -Original Message- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
There's a logical disconnect here ... you say more civilians are being killed ... a point I don't dispute ... but you don't say why that is ... that's because there are more barbarous groups out there, not because countries such as the US or Britain, etc. are targeting civilians. H.

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
i n fact I refuse to believe there is such a think as Civilised Warefare full stop. The two words simply do not go together -Original Message- From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:35 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) London

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
At 11:31 AM 4/2/02, you wrote: recall that former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin was a freedom fighter in the Irgun during the struggle for Israeli independence after WWII. However, the target of the freedom fighters was the British Military. This in my opinion separates a freedom fighter

RE: bill, oh no!

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
April Fool's?? Erika |-Original Message- |From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: 02 April 2002 17:33 |To: CF-Community |Subject: bill, oh no! | | |http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2002/LAW/1/4/gates.murder.01 |/index.html

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Howard Owens
What makes the contras unlawful? No US law made them unlawful. We just had laws against supporting them. They were a rebel army. And they weren't fighting to intimidate or coerce. They were fighting to gain military superiority, gain ground, topple regional governments with the ultimate goal

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Corrigan
I don't know why American citizens donated money to the IRA, but I can tell you that the actions of the IRA are not supported by the US Government. That's the difference. I really don't see how the illegal actions of some US citizens donating money to the IRA and the actions of Arafat and

RE: bill, oh no!

2002-04-02 Thread Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN)
the ip in the domain, javascript errors on the page, and broken image links should help figuring that out. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:41 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: bill, oh no! April Fool's?? Erika

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Will Swain
more definitions of terrorism ( I am particularly looking for pre sept 11th definitions): According to Bruce Hoffman's recently (1998) published Inside Terrorism, terrorism is; ineluctably political in aims and motives; violent-or, equally important, threatens violence; designed to have

RE: bill, oh no!

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
http://www.billgatesisdead.com/hub.html :} Erika |-Original Message- |From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | |http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2002/LAW/1/4/gates.murder.01 |/index.html |

Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Your assuming that women in the middle east (at least in most Muslim cultures) have the right to refuse. The rights of women are very restricted even in such places as Saudi Arabia. A woman can be arrested for just driving a car (as was seen during the gulf war when a number of women tried it

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
i'm not trying to prove they are not terrorists, just that the line between terrorist/freedom fighters is very fine and often a matter of perception. By your definition of terrorism (attacking civilians). Americans are terrorists(WWII/hiroshima), but they are not percieved as so. Even the

RE: bill, oh no!

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
yeah, saw all that ... thought it was pretty funny ... and trying to think up gullible people to send it to. :) Actually been around for quite awhile. Erika |-Original Message- |From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN)

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Will Swain
I would agree with that. -Original Message- From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:45 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) I don't know why American citizens donated money to the IRA, but I can tell you that the actions of the

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Raymond Camden
This reminds of the 20/20 (I think it was 20/20, the one w/ Barbara Walters) special on the women of Saudi Arabia last week. They were asking about the whole 'stoning' thing. I have to admit - I was sickened. They said, essentially Oh, its VERY hard to be caught cheating on your husband, and you

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Michael, Nope, attacked the civilians too. The American revolutionaries went on a campaign against those civilians who still supported the crown during the revolutionary war. About one third of the population were loyalists, those who supported the crown. Quite a few of them were locked up in

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Yep, I was. If it was possible I'd be all for it. At 11:49 AM 4/2/02, you wrote: Mikey- you're assuming I was serious ;-) -Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:51 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Not getting any

RE: Buffy DVDs

2002-04-02 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
Hah UK Rulz We'er on season 3 here Hope this hasn't already been posted... 232 unread emails still to go Not to mention that Angel DVD is in wide-screen in the UK and is apparently going to be in 4x3 when it goes to Region 1... I actually have the best of all worlds - all of my

RE: ARGHS!!!!

2002-04-02 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
didn't it rain yesterday where you are? We can claim that we live in Sunny Croydon - South London Philip Arnold Technical Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 F: +44 (0)20 8686 7911 An ISO9001 registered company.

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
now something like that might actually work !! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 18:01 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)) Yep, I was. If it was possible I'd be all for it. At 11:49 AM

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Howard, At the same time as the Reagan government directly funded the contras, these groups were attacking civilian targets, such as medical clinics, relief supplies distribution centers. I have a couple of friends who were with Doctors without Frontiers at the time whose clinic was attacked

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
you have seen (rare) examples of it but usually not - job description of court jester on list precludes doing it very often ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:01 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Not getting any

RE: Buffy DVDs

2002-04-02 Thread Mike Townend
Same here... Couldn't imagine not owning a multi-region player :) -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 18:02 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Buffy DVDs Hah UK Rulz We'er on season 3 here Hope this hasn't already

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
Mikey- waitaminit: by possible - were you referring to women in the Middle East withholding marital relations, or to Ben being serious?? -Ben -Original Message- From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:02 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Not

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Both. :) At 12:04 PM 4/2/02, you wrote: Mikey- waitaminit: by possible - were you referring to women in the Middle East withholding marital relations, or to Ben being serious?? -Ben -Original Message- From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:02

Re: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Todd
But what if that clitorectomy is part of ther religion? Todd - Original Message - From: Braver, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)) I'm also really bothered by

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Smyth
but I can tell you that the actions of the IRA are not supported by the US Government. Thats actually questionable, Gerry Adams (head of the IRA), was hosted at the white house last time he was in america. I really don't see how the illegal actions of some US citizens donating money to the IRA

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Nick McClure
The point of dropping the bombs was not to bring an end to the war. We could have defeated Japan without an amphibious landing. The bombs were to show our power to Russia. At 08:42 AM 4/2/2002 -0800, you wrote: Good point ... And I've never been comfortable with bombing cities, as was common

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I can't understand that at all. It's just alien to both of the cultures I live in. Judaism assigns the conjugal rights to the woman and the husband is supposed to 'please' her even in cases where reproduction is not possible or already happening (such as when pregnant). If we weren't supposed

Re: Somebody send me a muffin

2002-04-02 Thread BethF
AHEM The Copper River is in Alaska. The seattle restaurants always TAKE all of the first load of fish from it too. --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) Anchorage, Alaska - Original Message

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
sigh dude has me pegged... hee hee actually, there is so much stress these days (this whole Middle East think has actually been affecting my sleep) that I see my chosen role as court jester to be even more important whether it reduces your (collective) stress or not, it reduces mine! :-)

Re: Ok ok...the glasses..

2002-04-02 Thread BethF
Actually, they look pretty cool. --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) Anchorage, Alaska - Original Message - From: Angel Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
Actually, from what I have read, it is not part of their religion. It is a social custom, adopted and practiced by certain tribe or family groupings, but is not at all required or even supported by their religion. Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/02 12:12PM But what if that

Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Nick McClure
The people who were locked up and had lands confiscated were more than just loyalists, they were they people who were informing the British Army. They were the ones supporting them with food and clothing. As a supporter of the crown they were keeping the colonists from declaring independence.

Re: Somebody send me a muffin

2002-04-02 Thread BethF
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Re: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Todd
So .. kind of like circumcision in the U.S. Interesting. Todd - Original Message - From: Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)) Actually, from what I

RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)

2002-04-02 Thread Braver, Ben
Interesting - Adams claims to be the head of the political wing of the IRA, and not responsible for the military wing. So that gives him a certain patina of legitimacy. Arafat is supposedly head of the Palestinian Authority, and has not denied (AFAIK) responsibility for the militant groups

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I think you do such a good job that we're shipping you to the middle east right away. Bring some levity to those fighting and promote peace. How can you kill while laughing? Or better yet, if you upset them ALL enough maybe they'll band together to come after you. Yeh, that's what they need, a

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Wait a second ... did you just say that you are required to please Judith (sexually), by your religion? (Not that I'm interested in that detail ...) :) But that's, why that's, so weird! Conjugal rights to the women? Not that there's anything wrong with it, it's just so, modern! :) You go

RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))

2002-04-02 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
|- Original Message - |From: Braver, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |E.g. the African cultures that practice ritual mutilation | (clitorectomies) - so not only do ya gotta do it, you can't enjoy it. Can I just say, OUCH! shudder Erika (with a *K*) Life... is like a grapefruit. It's orange

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