Looks interesting, thanks!
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Leon Grapenthin
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(defn rect2 [x y width height]
(let [lr [(+ width x) (+ width y)]]
(reify Rect
(upper-left [_] [x y])
(lower-right [_] lr)
(area [_] (* width height)
Just
Disclaimer: I’ve never done *any* Clojure programming, but I’m curious.
Here’s how I may model an on-screen rectangle in JavaScript, a classless
object oriented language:
let createRectangle = function (x, y, width, height) {
return {
get upperLeft() {
, again without a clear basis for his
decision.
As an appeal to prior art, Rivest's S-Expressions Internet-Draft¹ used
only a single list structure, though it does define three different
encodings for that structure.
Footnotes:
¹ http://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/Sexp.txt
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you've ignored the thrust of my concern rather than
settling it.
sexp's only have a list notation because that's all lisp had, and even
then, some people got it all for free.
That tail did not wag that dog.
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Note that I wrote it about a year and a half ago. I hope the references
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Cédric Pineaucedric.pin...@gmail.com wrote:
My question is with the lazy-test dependency. Do I really have to put it as
a project dependency ?
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https://github.com/stuartsierra/clojure-hadoop/blob/master/src/main/clojure/clojure_hadoop/job.clj#L31
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I use a lot of multimethods with my framework, Ciste[0] and it can work,
the only thing is you have to be very careful about what you put where,
and it helps to have a lot of namespaces.
What I do is try to keep all of my defmulti's in one namespace and have
only defmethod's in another namespace.
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Jay Fields j...@jayfields.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, gaz jones gareth.e.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you Ken Wesson with a new
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On 01/15/2012 06:18 PM, Matt Stump wrote:
Is there a way to set different values for global vars when running
tests as opposed to the development or production environment? I
need to control which database my tests for a noir project connect
needs to keep the
R, E, and P steps clearly separate.
Working backward: the P (Print) prints things in a way that they can be
read back, where possible:
(read-string [1 2 3 4])
= [1 2 3 4]
(read-string (1 2 3 4))
= (1 2 3 4)
(read-string #{1 2 3 4})
= #{1 2 3 4}
(read-string {1 2 3 4
the reading.
Using syntaxic sugar for vector, on the contrary help the reading.
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not necessarily.
[1 2 3] is a vector that is not evaluated. Since there is no overload
with
things that are, there's no need for a special mark.
'(1 2 3
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Stephen C. Gilardi squee...@mac.comwrote:
On Oct 26, 2011, at 7:08 PM, e wrote:
[1 2 3] is a vector that is not evaluated. Since there is no overload
with things that are, there's no need for a special mark.
If you type [1 2 3] into the REPL
) that *that* data is a list. Broken.
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On Oct 26, 2011 7:15 PM, Stuart Halloway stuart.hallo...@gmail.com
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checking out the Try Clojure:
if you type the following, you get output that matches what you typed
in every case
I think I understand more now though, everyone. Thanks. clojure chose
lists for the data structure for code so lists sort of have a special place
in the language.
Thanks again.
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On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Mark Rathwell
long long time since I last looked a clojure, but I've never lost
interest and I'm trying to find the time again.
for the short version see *INCONSISTENT*, in the example at the end.
I know what the answer will be here. Something like you will get
used to it. or it's not important. or no one
with a
quote in the repl output? To me that would be more confusing.
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long long time since I last looked a clojure, but I've never lost
interest and I'm trying to find the time again.
for the short version see *INCONSISTENT
On 08/09/2011 05:35 AM, Shantanu Kumar wrote:
On Aug 9, 12:22 pm, mmwaikar mmwai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Assuming there are some DB credentials specified in a project.clj file as a
map, how should I read those credentials in my clojure code -
1) should I use slurp and then parse that
interesting. maybe I can change my interface in this thing I abandoned a
while back: http://code.google.com/p/jc-pheap/
to match that of the contrib, priority map. I had gotten stuck figuring
out the right interface/usage/idioms for clojure and kinda messed the whole
thing up in later checkins.
in the `doc' function (and `print-doc').
It's weird that a continuation line starting at column zero doesn't
print as being left-aligned with the first line.
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It's fairly common to let over a function, e.g.:
So common, in fact, that Doug Hoyte wrote a book about it:
Let Over Lambda
http://www.letoverlambda.com/
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| user (list (+ 1 2) (+ 3 4))
| (3 7)
| user (vector (+ 1 2) (+ 3 4))
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The reader silently converts 'pung to (quote pung) prior to
evaluation, so you have to come at it in a roundabout way:
That's not conspiring; that's read-time macroexpansion working as
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Clojure functions categorized: http://clojuredocs.org/quickref/Clojure%20Core
Wow, that is very nice -- especially the expandable view of the
implementation source.
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Putting them on separate lines put the focus on the wrong element of
the code. You do not want to be focusing on the parentheses, you want
to be focusing on the structure of the code. The idiomatic lisp
formatting style uses indentation to reveal the
the normal function
`pretty-print' I wrote above and the function defined in the
`extend-type' form quoted above?
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Wordnet is the main existing thing that comes to mind as related to your
idea.
You might also want to look into Freebase. Here's a Clojure client you
can use to query their data. http://github.com/rnewman/clj-mql
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paredit.el library available for download.
Or you saw a deficiency in counterclockwise ?
No, I wasn't complaining about Counterclockwise. Rather, I was noting
that the /complete/ behavior of `move-past-close-and-reindent' is hard
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Java code poisons its string manipulation efficiency by always
promising to return String rather than CharSequence. You've done better
in your signatures here, so I'm just encouraging you to avoid String and
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interesting so far. the format I first tried didn't work on my droid, but
no big deal.
one, kind-of Eureka moment I just had, which is somewhat blasphemous, I
guess:
Craig is going through how a vector is [1 2 3] but a list has to be '(1 2
3)? Well, that may be one of the turn-offs people have
, like 1 2
3, but I guess that would have looked a little too much like templates or
html (more blasphemy).
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interesting so far. the format I first tried didn't work on my droid, but
no big deal.
one, kind-of Eureka moment I just had
in
javascript, at least. But they only have two types, arrays and objects
(dictionaries).
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Can you imagine how disruptive it would be at this point to do it the
other way around? If you were starting
comparison view
(being something less than the value itself) is necessary.
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I'm starring that post. Still haven't gotten Aquamacs working with
clojure. will try yet again tonight.
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I second Lee's thought -- my work as a grad student is AI research,
not application development. I'm glad I discovered
think about the difference between putting flash or python on a machine
compared to clojure. there's more of a system-level path feel to those
things (even though each user can have their own environment). I mean, you
can add a clj script to your path and get the same effect, but that's what's
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I am a physicist by training and practice, this means that I am an
expert on Fortran 95. To say my exposure to Java is minimal would be
generous. And until last year when I heard about Clojure from a
friend, I thought LISP
there's a positive reason to say all that stuff as if to say, and it's not
that I'm a slouch. I have been able to succeed with other technology.
I've personally had tons of trouble getting going with clojure, and I use
java all the time. I think the ideas in clojure are awesome, and I like the
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mental process. More examples
on this topic would be welcome.
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be repeated upon conflict at the end of the
transaction and wind up succeeding, albeit with a different resulting
value than the one observed within the transaction, right?
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You can use *agent* from inside an agent thread to obtain the
current agent.
Is this documented?
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at the would-be commit point.
I think alter is exactly the right tool.
Good. I can understand `alter'. I'd still like to understand more about
`commute'.
I appreciate the discussion.
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those values wind up conflicting with a competing transaction, does the
whole transaction fail and restart? Again, how do `alter' and `commute'
differ in such a case?
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Someone will have an elegant solution, but what comes to my mind is a
(somewhat) brute force loop-recur ... not not that much different from
what you suggested. It would pass the under construction return lists to
itself and a dwindling amount (rest) of the original list. Add first
from the
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the core
API documentation. Finding `when-not' was nice, but the name still
doesn't work for me. Per your/our macro above, it's not really different
enough from `when' and `not' to warrant another name.
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functions defined?
There's the dataflow library in Clojure contrib¹, but it doesn't have
an `update-cell' function or form `'. Where are you finding these? Is
there public documentation available?
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i'm interested in seeing how this progresses ... like how you'd spawn
handlers asynchronously to service the requests. was thinking about doing
this exercise myself at some point.
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Hi Matt,
I think what you're looking
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In the *inferior-lisp* buffer, try evaluating the following form:
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Does that cause SLIME's REPL to finally connect to Swank?
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fails when loaded
for the REPL, and hence it can't find the required class (clojure.main),
even though IDEA can load the same Jar file for other reasons.
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i can echo that last reply. I wanted to use clojure and may return to it
... awesome idea. But haven't had ANY luck with dev environments ... VC,
included. gone down many blind alleys. It was almost a year ago that I
tried, though. perhaps I should try again.
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James Reeves weavejes...@googlemail.com writes:
Would those more knowledgable about Clojure care to weigh in on
whether it be a good idea to create a custom class inheriting from
IDeref?
That's how promise is implemented, but that's supposed to be an internal
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A much easier solution is to go with a lisp designed for exactly the task
of scripting.
Woah! Seems like an understatement. This newLISP looks POWERFUL. Lot's of
new stuff to read. Thank you, thank you.
I whole-heartedly
i was messing around a while back with this:
http://code.google.com/p/jc-pheap/
the algorithms work, but it's probably in a between-state. I wasn't sure
what the interface should look like exactly, and I was recently adding
support for duplicate keys (but I wasn't sure if I should have two
folks may be interested in this thing I was working on a while back for
Dijkstra and Branch and Bound problems: http://code.google.com/p/jc-pheap/.
... I know this was a while ago :)
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could expose timed waits on it, but I got hung up with lack of
access to protected methods in the `proxy' macro.
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I didn't know this was a vote for location. If it is, DC would work for me.
I thought it was more about weekend vs week. I'd agree weekend is better.
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of options and
whichever one you think sounds appropriate is probably the wrong
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It has confused me since the day I tried to mess around with clojure that
this topic isn't brought up more (not that I follow clj regularly) ... so
I'm happy to learn that someone added trace capabilities.
That said (and I'm not trying to make this a charged statement ... just a
way to learn
interesting. thanks for the thoughtful reply.
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That said (and I'm not trying to make this a charged statement ... just a
way to learn more) I had always thought that one of the key things that made
lisp so complete was
protected methods and
calling on protected methods.
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no influence over
/other/ instances of the same Method. Changing the accessibility doesn't
seem to have global effect throughout the program.
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seems like way too much
work just to get a timeout-based wait on the promise's delivery
arriving.
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block-on-a-latching-result capability.
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but it looks too simple.
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There was some discussion about it a couple months ago:
I picked up the torch today, in hope that others will try again for a
better resolution:
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If someone would volunteer to fix it, I'd be thrilled. Nobody who is
interested in using CL and Clojure at the same time has stepped
forward so far, which is why it's currently broken.
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as with the CVS version.
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Thank you, Konrad. Your explanation was perfect.
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of the computational steps.
Can you recommend a book that covers aspects of monads like these? I'd
like to learn more about the abstract concepts than their implementation
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compose a delayed computation, or is this delaying particular to the
continuation monad?
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and returns a monadic value. That's the wrong argument type to be
used with bind -- which wants to call on a monadic function with a basic
value -- so I don't understand when one would want to use lift. When
would one be able to call on a lifted function? A simple example would
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as a return value
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://git.boinkor.net/slime.git head behave the same
way, as the offending calls are in swank-clojure.
o Clojure 1.1.0
Downloaded Jar from code.google.com.
o GNU Emacs 23.1.1
o Windows XP 32-bit
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Steven E. Harris s...@panix.com writes:
it takes calling RuntimeMXBean#get() -- actually using the
RuntimeMXBean instance -- to unblock the other thread.
I meant RuntimeMXBean#getName() there.
My typing is poor this morning.
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Steven E. Harris s...@panix.com writes:
In the meantime, I'll continue the investigation.
Here are two thread dumps of the Java process running Clojure and Swank,
which, at this time, has a live Clojure REPL, but the Swank call to
`connection-info' hasn't completed yet.
This first one comes
Steven E. Harris s...@panix.com writes:
In the meantime, I'll continue the investigation.
And yet more information: Apparently it's not critical to call on the
RuntimeMXBean#getName() method specifically to kick the Swank thread out
of its blocking call; just about /any call on a Java method
Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com writes:
Perhaps it would be best to paste such dumps somewhere, rather than
mail to the entire list?
I'll do that next time. Sorry for the noise.
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Steven E. Harris s...@panix.com writes:
Now get this: Right before the SLIME-Swank connection completes, Emacs
beeps and prints the following two lines in the *Messages* buffer:
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| error in process filter: cond: etypecase failed: defun, (number cons string)
| error in process filter
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But presentations still don't work.
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Steven E. Harris s...@panix.com writes:
This morning, doing so makes things work much better.
Still I see this in the *inferior-lisp* buffer when starting slime:
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| (require 'swank.swank)
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| (swank.swank/ignore-protocol-version 2009-12-23)
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| (swank.swank/start-server c:/DOCUME~1/seh
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