Re: [Computer-go] Number of Go positions computed modulo 2^64; source code available

How much computation time do you expect to reveil the complete exact 19x19 number? Or is more research necessary before I may ask this? -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Computer-go] Komi 6.5/7.5

more. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Komi 6.5/7.5

On 06.11.2015 10:47, Aja Huang wrote: area scoring, in which case the score is almost always odd. Black wins: odd score White wins: even score -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

to 100, 10, 10 for the sake of expert system input, but even then the implementation task is huge (man-years). Not to mention semantic testing of processed data to get a "thinking" workload similar to my own thinking. -- robert jasiek ___ C

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

that needs some "calculation" and basic counting or limited reading fail, MC can come in to do the calculation. E.g., an expert system can identify groups of likely connected strings, then MC can calculate if indeed (statistically) the connection is given. -- rob

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

ups strength was the core concept feeding into the full board evaluation, which tried to estimate the score. But what WAS your group strength...?:) Score estimation of a given position should also depend on territory counts, not only on group strength etc. -- robert jas

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

and connection status, for what purposes did you use them and how did you apply them? -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

as expert system knowledge. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

short overview http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/RobertJasiekGoTheoryResearch.html -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

.) -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

to be coded and maybe of the complexity of time remain. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] re comments on Life and Death

; quiescience has been familiar to CG for a long time.) I wish you the best of luck producing the set of principles. Luck is useless. What has helped me was careful analytical study of my own (often methodical) thinking. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Using gogui to visualize a CNN for move prediction

-alive from either player's perspective, allowing UNDEFINED where necessary. For the sake of simplicity, n, m > 2 or < -2 you can replace by 2 or -2. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/m

Re: [Computer-go] Go Aesthetics

Is playing bad moves good for aesthetics? No? Then why call it aesthetics? Call it perfect / good play. The most "beautiful" stone is bad if it is dead. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://compu

Re: [Computer-go] History of influence concepts in go

values if the task is to assess current positions rather than final scoring positions, in which one value is sufficient. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Seki frequencies

things as "attack a group for the same of making an additional 1 point in sente during this particular sequence". With histograms, you see nothing like this in the near future, I'd guess. Define 'fight'! (As you understand it for your study purpose.) -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] Seki frequencies

seki much different from ordinary life and death? Why care if anything is a seki? Maybe it is sufficient to study histograms of final global scores and detect at which tree branches peaks arise. (Or do likewise for subpositions.) -- robert jasiek ___ C

Re: [Computer-go] Seki frequencies

KGS) seeks seki as a reasonable compromise in unreasonable fights. *** If you want to study seki configurations, the best is to do theoretical research. If you want many ordinary sekis in actual games, take KGS samples. -- robert jasiek ___ C

Re: [Computer-go] Seki frequencies

arch and Wolf would have suitable programs to use but I have - for me - more urgent tasks, such as continuing research on ordinary semeais. Would strong go bots also fall in this category? I do not know because I have seen too few games played by

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

ambiguous, the most often correct / applicable) descriptions of human-understandable go theory and further research in the latter. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Game Over

players' positional evaluation exists, see e.g. my two books Positional Judgement. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

f semantic conflicts. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Mathematics in the world

ecause too many have lost themselves in the black hole of ambiguous string theory. Computer go theory seems to be similar to physics. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

amateur comments were related to reading or by heart knowledge of the latest nadare variations (before the post-joseki aji mistakes, which can be detected by 5d, or even below), but reading / joseki is not AlphaGo's weakness. -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

is a heuristic / engineering / first guess" are easily possible. Research papers should be honest. (They may hide secret details, but this is another topic.) -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo and the Standard Mistake in Research and Journalism

nce as go players, yes. But... I have seen too many surprising sequences and sacrifices to be sure. Then we estimate the decision complexity to be upper bounded by 200^181 and the game tree complexity by 200^361. I won't believe such until proven:) -- robert jas

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

lligence solved" - never heard greater nonsense before. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo and the Standard Mistake in Research and Journalism

be considered and the upper bound is ca. N^P. For the yellow press: "The number of 10^80 atoms in the universe is much smaller than the number 2 * 10^170 of possible positions, which is very much smaller than the uncountable number of possible different games." -- rob

[Computer-go] Knowledge Details

onnection trouble, server bugs of distributed computers, hardware bugs of the local interface computers or interrupted power supply.) -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] 57%

be the optimum but a smaller percentage must be the best. (Roughly) which percentage is optimal? Why? Is the optimum greater or smaller than 57%? -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] Knowledge Details

cl. myself). -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Knowledge Details

On 04.02.2016 02:52, David Ongaro wrote: At the same time I've to point out that you seem to plan to get very old. I will not see the solution, which needs at least another 400 years unless computers learn to research. -- robert jasiek

[Computer-go] AlphaGo and the Standard Mistake in Research and Journalism

ralised game on boards with N intersections (but go as a game is played on the 19x19 board with its fixed N = 361). -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

trict "definition" of nakade? Has anybody proceeded beyond my definition attempts? I suspect the standard problem of research again: definition by reference to a different paper with an ambiguous description. If ambiguous terms are presumed for pragmatic reasons, this must be stated!

Re: [Computer-go] Mathematics in the world

On 02.02.2016 13:05, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: For research in general it is good to have waves: Research is faster if informalism and formalism progress simultaneously (by different people or in different papers). -- robert jasiek ___ C

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

, provided it is clearly stated that it is an ambiguous heuristic and not an [unambiguous] definition / term. References / links (possibly iterative) hiding ambiguity without declaring it are inappropriate. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

ons for undefined terms, principles, methods etc. Human beings can better learn if they know what to learn because the contents is described clearly. about what is rapidly approaching as human cognition automateable. Eh? Besides GoTools, there has been very little, AFAIK. -- robert jas

Re: [Computer-go] Mastering the Game of Go with Deep Neural Networks and Tree Search

re I would want to confirm Myongwan Kim's related opinion. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Move evalution by expected value, as product of expected winrate and expected points?

different degrees of safety of (potential) territory and the strategic concepts of sacrifice and exchange. I have also suggested other definitions, but IMO they are less attractive for NN. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen!

Aja, sorry to bother you with trivialities, but how does Alphago avoid power or network failures and such incidents? -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Number of Go positions computed at last

of computational complexity? -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Number of Go positions computed at last (John Tromp)

afu.de/jasiek/c2002.pdf http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/c2002com.pdf with the flawless Area Scoring in general. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] Finding Alphago's Weaknesses

theory and the generated dynamic data (structures) -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Finding Alphago's Weaknesses

right side in sente) and creating a winning position by robbing White of every option of creating significant new territory regions / expansions. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinf

[Computer-go] Verification Reading for Probabilities

Such should prevent the program from suddenly experiencing harshly dropping probabilities during a few successive moves / mistakes of the game, such as in game 4 of the AlphaGo - Lee Sedol match. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo & DCNN: Handling long-range dependency

know if this is advantageous considering presumably greater GPU time) - instead of single position patterns, use combinations of current position and later positions, for different (dynamic) parameters of time shift, so as to model long-term effects -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] Game 4: a rare insight

preceding sequence is a well-timed, cute trick play and the Alphago teams needs to understand why the trick worked. I'd guess that it would have found a correct reply if the moyo defense had been a local, short term problem. -- robert jasiek ___ C

Re: [Computer-go] Final score 4-1 - congratulations to AlphaGo team!

was a little better at that moment.) -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to AlphaGo

not artificially restrict strategy a lot. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo & DCNN: Handling long-range dependency

, and groups of pupils.] -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo & DCNN: Handling long-range dependency

On 14.03.2016 09:33, Petri Pitkanen wrote: And being 600 elo points above best human you are pretty close to best possible play. You do not have any evidence for such a limit. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer

Re: [Computer-go] new challenge for Go programmers

ducational tool! It would probably even help teach joseki. No. Joseki learning requires much more than move suggestions. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] new challenge for Go programmers

cateful study of the few moves after the squeeze is necessary. You mention several outdated principles and concepts, whose insufficiency I have explained elsewhere. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer

[Computer-go] AlphaGo - Lee Sedol Game 5,Move 68

For those of you not reading forums but interested in a positional judgement after the tower squeeze sacrifice in game 5, an SGF is attached inline. Conclusion: afterwards White has at least a small lead, so AlphaGo's strategy was superb. -- robert jasiek (;SZ[19]GM[1]CA[UTF-8]FF[4]ST[2

Re: [Computer-go] Nice graph

5d - 6d. 9p has a great range in itself. Rating systems can have a problem of running away ratings at the top. Self-played ratings might not be significant. 5 games are not enough to assign a secure rank to AlphaGo v. 18. So, no, the graph is not nice. -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] Nice graph

On 26.03.2016 06:15, Robert Jasiek wrote: 9d does not exist. I mean as a real world rank. Of course, there are servers in which ranks are derived from ratings. E.g., KGS 9d can mean everything from real world 3d [sic!] to 9p. -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to AlphaGo (Statistical significance of results)

-- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] Positional Judgements on AlphaGo / Fan Hui Games

nt advantage of the program's revealed strategic mistakes to demonstrate AlphaGo's limits. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] new challenge for Go programmers

ly if it were proven mathematically. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] (no subject)

ad proverbs are about learning josekis without understanding: learn, forget, repeat; this effort can demote a player's strength indeed;) -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] (no subject)

, old variations) you find in Joseki 3 - Dictionary. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Very interesting presentation of Fan Hui about AlphaGo

Intelligence and it is used for a task involving responsibility, such as health care or car driving. Who has which legal responsibility if the General Artificial Intelligence makes mistakes killing people? -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo rollout nakade patterns?

On 31.01.2017 16:39, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: http://senseis.xmp.net/?BasicLivingEyeShapes Warning: these do not include any living eye shapes with inside stones, nor specialities on the edge or in the corner. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] ADMIN: Lists Have Moved

I suppose we still send messages to computer-go@computer-go.org Yes, if I receive this message from the list. I suppose nothing has changed about the procedures and email addresses for (un)subscription. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo rollout nakade patterns?

"such that", "would", "eye", "proper", "involves".) -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

this successfully.) -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

's moves - only by AlphaGo's "reading" depth. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

inking, this is like making assumptions of excluding parts of conscious thinking. As if you wanted to deceive Heisenberg's uncertainty relation. Maybe it does play a relevant role in brains. Observation affects perception. -- robert jasiek ___ Compu

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

On 04.01.2017 22:08, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: humanity's last hope The "last hope" are theoreticians creating arcane positions far outside the NN of AlphaGo so that its deep reading would be insufficient compensation! Another chance is long-term, subtle creation and use

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

ing right most of the time but sometimes killing people because the AI faces situations (such as a local sand storm or a painting on the street with a fake landscape or fake human being) outside its current training and reading. -- robert jas

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

to) Reasoned decision-making need not always be low-level / mathematical. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

a full game From the empty board? Of course not (today). We cannot formally prove much simpler models, Formal proofs for certain types of positions (such as with round_up(n/2) n-tuple kos) exist. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list

Re: [Computer-go] Are the AlphaGols coming?

unt that quickly?” Usually, accurate positional judgement (not only territory but all aspects) takes between a few seconds and 3 minutes, depending on the position and provided one is familiar with the theory. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mail

Re: [Computer-go] Our Silicon Overlord

matical proofs ALA the NN does not emulate mathematical proving. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Alphago and solving Go

On 09.08.2017 20:50, John Tromp wrote: The number of games is at most 361^#positions. This misses passes, rules distinguishing situations etc. and infinite sequences under some rulesets. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] Deep Blue the end, AlphaGo the beginning?

ccess to physical ressources), they can render extinct mankind. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] AlphaGo's Endgame Mistakes

iterate komi increments for specific positions during the games and create a second instance of AlphaGo modified due to its improved play with tougher komi. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

me consequences they can have. Rarities are one very good study tool for this purpose. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

discussions resulting to something. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

e for related proofs) or will be published by me later (will be quite a lot and have practical relevance, but you need to be patient). Research in mathematical go theory requires much time because exactness is often necessary and proving can be tricky

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

On 24.10.2017 20:19, Xavier Combelle wrote: totally unrelated No, because a) software must also be evaluated and can by go theory and b) software can be built on exact go theory. That currently (b) is unpopular does not mean unrelated. -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero

ready been described but if not this would be an interesting research topic. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

[Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

from Deepmind for the published AlphaGo Zero games. Are they for free use or copyrighted? I hope the former so everybody including Deepmind can see more commentaries. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

earning rules, practising problems etc. Conscious, explicit thinking can be trained by learning rules, practising problems etc. So what do you want to say? -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

On 30.10.2017 19:22, Pierce T. Wetter III wrote: this car and this child In Germany, an ethics commission has written ethical guidelines for self-driving cars with also the rule to always prefer avoiding casualties of human beings. -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero

On 20.10.2017 09:38, Xavier Combelle wrote: What is currently named nanorobot is simply hand assembled molecules which have mechanical properties and need huge framework to be able simply move. Sure. But we must not wait until such a thing exists. -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] agz -- meditations

if not $25. At least, I hope. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero

-replicate or permanently ensure energy access, from causing extinction of mankind? -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero

r plants, to start with. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero

it to be financially worthwhile for the "too specialised" case of Go? As I say, a mathematical proof of a complete solution of Go will occur before AI playing perfectly;) So far neural nets have been trained and applied within single domains, and any "generalization" means with

Re: [Computer-go] Subject: Re: AlphaGo Zero

increasingly important in view of the fast progress of AI. Surely you are aware that Deepmind knows this. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

be applied. What you describe has been used with success and better success than I expect what my knowledge-pure approach can currently achieve. But MCTS as glue for conflicting principles has also run into a boundary. I want to see that boundary surpassed by my pure approach. -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] I present my apologizes to Robert Jasiek

Accepted, thank you! -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

tc. to code - yes. If you can build Go bot about KGS 3/4dan strength Using my approach, I expect several manyears, which I do not have for that purpose. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

as terminal positions with disturbing life kos or anti-sekis, whether ladders are recognised beyond 250 moves etc. Not to mention non-go applications. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo Zero SGF - Free Use or Copyright?

ain their decision-making have said that they could not because it would be intuition. A framework that is NOT theory. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [Computer-go] GCP passing on the staff ...

but, of course, you are right. I simply have not studied their deep reading carefully enough to witness more incidents. -- robert jasiek ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go

Re: [computer-go] http://senseis.xmp.net/?KGSWishlist and http://senseis.xmp.net/?KGSWishlist2

it alone and hope that everybody helps in making the contents useful again. -- robert jasiek ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: Fw: [computer-go] Re: Interesting problem

steve uurtamo wrote: there's simply nothing more irritating than someone attempting an unreasonable invasion at the end of a game in order to try to turn a loss into a win. I try this during the opening, the middle game, and the endgame. The only difference is in YOUR perception. -- robert

Re: Fw: [computer-go] Re: Interesting problem

make the same mistakes again, first read http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/wagcmod.html -- robert jasiek ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

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