[CTRL] Nobel Peace Award Winner Arafat's Guards Murdered
So today is Easter Sunday - the The Slauhtermen Cometh.. Well what else would one expect on Easter day - all safe houses no doubt marked with the blood of the lambs. A Nobel Peace Award winner is in isolation, he security executed and they aim for the head - and these Israelis remember have been training you local police in D Platoon Tactics to save the children no doubt OSaba Firing heard at Arafat compoundPalestinian officials say they're in office; Israeli army denies itBREAKING NEWS NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES March 31 Palestinian officials said Sunday that Israeli forces were storming Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's besieged office building and that there had been exchanges of gunfire between soldiers and Palestinian security guards. The Israeli army denied troops were inside the three-story building, but an Associated Press reporter speaking by phone to Palestinians inside Arafat's office could hear the sounds of heavy gunfire. Palestinian officials said Israeli troops took over Arafat's personal quarters on the second floor. 'Our decision not to harm Arafat still stands. ... We don't want to turn it into a world war, into a regional war. We don't want to turn the entire world against us.' ISRAELI FOREIGN MINISTER SHIMON PERES speaking on Israel Radio as the fighting was reported in Arafat's office PALESTINIAN OFFICIALS said Israeli troops took over Arafat's personal quarters on the second floor. The Israeli military denied that Palestinian forces entered Arafat's office on Sunday. Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, speaking on Israel Radio as the fighting was reported in Arafat's office, said: Our decision not to harm Arafat still stands. There's no change. We don't want to turn it into a world war, into a regional war. We don't want to turn the entire world against us. Arafat's compound has been under Israeli control since Friday, with the exception of the office building where Arafat and his aides have been holed up. They started entering Arafat's offices and now they are exchanging fire with the president's bodyguards. There are very serious clashes and the president's guards are fighting against the invaders. There are several wounded, Palestinian Information Minister Yasser Abed Rabbo said. Abed Rabbo was not inside the compound in the West Bank city of Ramallah, however. SUICIDE ATTACK On Saturday, about 30 people were injured, including five critically, in the latest suicide attack on Israel, this time aimed at the My Coffee Shop Cafe on a popular Tel Aviv thoroughfare. The suicide bomber was killed. The bombing was claimed by the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade, a militia that has been linked to Arafat's Fatah movement. The attacker was identified as a man from the West Bank city of Nablus. The explosion went off sometime after 9 p.m. (1 p.m. ET) at the cafe on Allenby Street. I passed by there. I heard a loud explosion. I was so scared. I never saw something like this in my life, one witness, who was not further identified, told Channel Two. MSNBC's Ashleigh Banfield reported from the scene that the cafe is popular with soccer fans, who congregate to watch games on television. By luck, Saturday's game wasn't too exciting and the cafe was less crowded than usual, Banfield reported. Most of the wounded were staff and passers-by. Advertisement 'EXPECTING MANY MORE' Police Commissioner Shlomo Aharonishki said he did not expect a letup in Palestinian attacks. We are expecting many more bomb attacks, and we are spreading our forces as widely as possible, he said on Israel TV. David Baker, an official in Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office, said Israel would take all steps necessary, using all means possible, to stop the Palestinian attacks. This included rounding up hundreds of Palestinian men for questioning. The Israeli military sealed off Ramallah, barring journalists from entering. Journalists who were in Ramallah before the Israeli operation began have been able to work in the city. Palestinian witnesses said Israeli forces moving through the streets of Ramallah with loudspeakers demanded that all males between the ages of 14 and 40 come out of their homes and report to a school. More than 500 Palestinian men assembled in the yard, were blindfolded and had their hands tied behind their backs. Some were being put on a truck and driven away. The army chased away journalists who arrived at the scene. The bombing is a continuation of the campaign of murder against Israelis everywhere, Baker said. It was the third Palestinian suicide attack this week. On Wednesday evening, a suicide bomber blew himself up in a hotel in the coastal resort of Netanya, killing 22 diners attending a Passover Seder, the ritual meal ushering in the Jewish holiday. On Friday, a bomber blew herself up at the entrance of a Jerusalem supermarket,
Re: [CTRL] Baxter's family wants suicide note kpet private
-Caveat Lector- This note is not intended for public consuption for entertainment. If the case goes to Court then the note could be made available in any Court of Law. Meanwhile trying cases in the news media is a favorite passtime. We once had a guy here make 60 Minutes the same day I did - he though was on trial as a serial rapist. Now there was a psychiatric report leaked to the press and they got caught, for a stupid assistant prosecutor trying to make brownie points with a reporter, removed the staples from his report, and made a copy. Now when it hit the fat and the newspaper had the report, the Prosecutor was the first to demand the 5 copies that had gone out and it turned out is own man, was the one with two stapler marksboom, he was sacked. This report was not drawn up for the entertainment of the public, and it was private -until it came into the Court Room where it was then made public legally. It is obvious what the motive was with this man - one day a bit timer and the next day torn apart in the press prior to a trial. to tell the truth when I saw this one woman on TV who claimed she lost a million dollars, only had $20,000 left - she had nothing to begin with - what upset her was she could not unload her stock and pass it on to some unsuspecting person. Enron - it was like a run on a bank Until that note is introduced in court with good cause it is just nobody's business. There is enough domestic sabotage and olitical espionage going on in this country and I say this - suicide notes are written in despair and the letter was personl, not sent in the USA Mail system - it was a personal note, and was part of official police investigation - OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] The Anti-Semitism of Aum Shinrikyo
Interesting item - drew my attention as of late the Feds are disposing of sarin gas in Arkansas, along with mustard gas, etc. But it seems this AUM group was only a threat at it became more powerful - for these were Doomsdayers...who believed in a Jewish Masonic Royal Conspiracy.further the authors of this item believes poor Israel is he scapegoat for the USA? OSaba ---BeginMessage--- http://www.ict.org.il/articles/aum_antisemitism.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == ctrl is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, ctrl gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. ctrl gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. There are two list running, ctrl@yahoogroups and [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctrl@yahoogroups has unlimited posting and is more for discussion. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is more for informational exchange and has limited posting abilities. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Om Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Baxter's family wants suicide note kpet private
-Caveat Lector- Well you want the tape write Morley Sater for I did not tape it..some 13 million or so people saw it and a good number called me.it was done in fun, but was dead serious too. I took a day off work the next day because my phone did not stop ringing and everybody was talking about my spot to the exclusion of the serial rapist.. Would have been 1983 maybe September, do not remember Anyway Morley Sater had some fun. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Holocaust - Reports Of Israelis Slaughtering Palestinian Men
-Caveat Lector- Now what are they celebrating in the passover - the murder of the first born? The blood of the lamb was put on doors of those where the killers would not attack - like Rahab with the red cord.the spies and the angels of death. Herod and the slaughter of the innocents? Gypsy Jews and the Tarot Cards..for more typical slaughter see murder of JFK and RFK and toss in little John John for this kid would have been the next President and the timetable would have been tossed out of the window. This is ritual murder - Jewish Slaughtermenlike Jack the Ripper timed to a calendar of events. Slaughter of the lambs, right? That is the passover..and like thieves in the nights in the Exodus they stole from their masters, the first born were all killed - and they ran for many many years. Now they bring this shit to America the scapegoat. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Here We Are UN Murder Inc. and Uganda included
What was that old song Drinking Rum and Coca Cola working for the Yankee Dollah... So here we have it, organized crime, about to reorganize crime. This article is almost laughable..wonder can we get Meyer Lansky and these Mafia Dons or whatever they call them on any Geneva Conference Violations - War Criminals, fighting over all that good stuff the kind of stuff that makes a man like Marc Rich, Meyer Lansky, Bronfman, and Larry Flynt billion and millionaires? Nice story here...and to think I have their bible. Wish I understood all this stuff but I am just an average housewife, so to put who spends a lot of time in her kitchen.where did I go wrong..I could have gone into the coca busines. For better reading pull up under subject matter OSaba Strawberry Blonde with Gray Eyes And Three SilverGolden Blonde Haired, blue eyed children - one with Gray eyes which we do not talk about.No Purple. 8. (a) Convention for Limiting the Manufacture and Regulating the Distribution of Narcotic Drugs Geneva, July 13th, 19311 IN FORCE since July 9th, 1933 (Article 30). Ratifications or definitive accessions Ratifications or definitive accessions Afghanistan (June 21st, 1935 a) Albania (October 9th, 1937 a) United States of America (April 28th, 1932) 1. The Government of the United States of America reserves the right to impose, for purpose of internal control and control of import into, and export from, territory under its jurisdiction, of opium, coca leaves, all of their derivatives and similar substances produced by synthetic process, measures stricter than the provisions of the Convention. 2. The Government of the United States of America reserves the right to impose, for purposes of controlling transit through its territories of raw opium, coca leaves, all of their derivatives and similar substances produced by synthetic process, measures by which the production of an import permit issued by the country of destination may be made a condition precedent to the granting of permission for transit through its territory. 3. The Government of the United States of America finds it impracticable to undertake to send statistics of import and export to the Permanent Central Opium Board short of 60 days after the close of the three-months period to which such statistics refer. 4. The Government of the United States of America finds it impracticable to undertake to state separately amounts of drugs purchased or imported for Government purposes. 5. Plenipotentiaries of the United States of America formally declare that the signing of the Convention for limiting the Manufacture and regulating the Distribution of Narcotic Drugs by them on the part of the United States of America on this date is not to be construed to mean that the Government of the United States of America recognises a régime or entity which signs or accedes to the Convention as the Government of a country when that régime or entity is not recognised by the Government of the United States of America as the Government of that country. 6. The plenipotentiaries of the United States of America further declare that the participation of the United States of America in the Convention for limiting the Manufacture and regulating the Distribution of Narcotic Drugs, signed on this date, does not involve any contractual obligation on the part of the United States of America to a country represented by a régime or entity which the Government of the United States of America does not recognise as the government of that country until such country has a government recognised by the Government of the United States of America. Saudi Arabia (August 15th, 1936) Argentina (April 18th, 1946) Austria (July 3rd, 1934) Belgium (April 10th, 1933) This ratification does not include the Belgian Congo, nor the Territory of Ruanda-Urundi under Belgian mandate. Belgian Congo and Mandated Territory of Ruanda-Urundi (December 17th, 1941 a) Brazil (April 5th, 1933) Great Britain and Northern Ireland2 (April 1st, 1933) His majesty does not assume any obligation in respect of any of his Colonies, Protectorates and Overseas Territories or territories under suzerainty or under mandate exercised by his Government in the United Kingdom. British Honduras, British Solomon Islands Protectorate, Ceylon, Cyprus, Falkland Islands and Dependencies, Gambia (Colony and Protectorate), Gilbraltar, Gold Coast [(a) Colony, (b) Ashanti, (c) Northern Territories, (d) Togoland under British Mandate], Hong-Kong, Kenya (Colony and Protectorate), Leeward Islands (Antigua, Dominica, Montserrat, St. Christopher and Nevis, Virgin Islands), Mauritius, Nigeria [(a) Colony, (b) Protectorate, (c) Cameroons under British Mandate], North Borneo (State of), Northern Rhodesia, Nyasaland Protectorate, Sarawak, Seychelles, Sierra Leone (Colony and Protectorate), Somaliland Protectorate, Straits Settlements, Tanganyika Territory, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Uganda Protectorate, Zanzibar
[CTRL] Fwd: U.S. keeps distance in Mideast mess
What? Nobody believes that We Come In Peace crap anymore? So here we have a man who won a Nobel Peace Award sitting all alone by his telephone - don''t work, for another curse has befallen this great Palestinian Leader - the curse of darkness, they turned of fhis electricty.they turned off his water..he sits there, all alone by a dead telephonewith a big gun before him just waiting for the bastardsOh to Go a Great Martyera Nobel Peace Award Winner a Victim of the Zionist Pigs. What a way to go out - for it is live in fame or go down in flames and let the Zionists get the blames? Oh Well Such Is Life Today in Paradise.but for a Nobel Peace Award winner to be martyered - murdered in cold blood by cold blooded assassins - this poor wretch of a man, who only has one suit. And he not doubt got that at a factory outlet. So goodbye Arafat - wherever you are...Praise Allah - Praise the Lord, but pass that ammunition, brother. OSaba Imagine murdering a Nobel Peace Award Winner you know that bum Clinton wanted one all along, and had he not let his Zionist flunkees bomb the hell out of Serbia, and tossed that pig out of his office who brought him a pizza loaded with Ecstacy - who knows - he could say to Arafat and Sharon, the Head Pig - I Come In Peace U.S. U.S. keeps distance in Mideast messPowell repeats stock condemnation of Palestinian actionsBy Alan Sipress THE WASHINGTON POST WASHINGTON, March 30 The Bush administration, confronted with a dramatic eruption of Middle East violence and the collapse of peace efforts, maintained a wary distance yesterday and repeated its long-standing reproach of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. 'We have spoken out clearly and do so again now, for Chairman Arafat to act, act against those responsible for these acts ...' COLIN L. POWELL secretary of state EVEN AS ISRAELI SOLDIERS besieged Arafat inside his West Bank compound, raising the prospect he might be killed, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell focused on recent Palestinian attacks against Israelis, condemning them in language that has become the stock of U.S. diplomacy. We have spoken out clearly and do so again now, for Chairman Arafat to act, act against those responsible for these acts and to make clear to the Palestinian people that terror and violence must halt now. All those who support peace must reinforce this message, Powell said at a hastily arranged news conference. Except for Powell's carefully scripted remarks, President Bush's national security team was silent. Officials said U.S. special envoy Anthony C. Zinni would remain in the Middle East, but they offered no goals beyond seeing if he could win Israeli and Palestinian adherence to a cease-fire plan that has met with no success since it was proposed last June by CIA Director George J. Tenet. The administration's determination to stay the course comes in the face of open warfare between Israelis and Palestinians, heralded by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's declaration he considers Arafat the enemy. This new belligerence and the staggering series of suicide bombings that rocked Israel this week have sabotaged what some officials believe could be Zinni's last shot at a truce and dash the hope created by the Arab League's endorsement this week of a rare Saudi peace proposal. GREEN LIGHT? In response, Bush and his senior advisers dispatched Powell to deliver a message that many observers, including Israelis and Palestinians, saw as a green light for Sharon. Though an accomplished public speaker, Powell conspicuously read from a prepared text, his eyes returning to the page every few words. Some U.S. officials said the statement did not fully reflect his own concerns about Israel's armed raid on Arafat's Ramallah headquarters. In Ramallah, a methodical exercise of military might Assault spurs criticism of Israeli tactics The essence had been worked out in discussions President Bush had with his senior national security team and largely reflected the thinking of Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, sources familiar with the deliberations said. A senior administration official said Cheney's staff had been especially influential in shaping the message. Cheney and Rumsfeld have long cautioned against heightening American involvement in trying to resolve the Middle East conflict, especially if it means crossing Sharon. In his statement to reporters and a subsequent telephone conversation with Arafat, Powell called on the Palestinian leader, pinned down in his headquarters, to move more vigorously against terrorists. And Powell signaled he was still looking for Palestinian security forces, engaged in defending the Ramallah headquarters against the Israeli strike, to cooperate with their adversaries in enforcing a U.S.-brokered truce. WHAT ABOUT CIVILIANS? 'Chairman Arafat is the
[CTRL] RIP and May Allah Bless Thee Arafat Who Won Nobel Peace Award
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 1994, in alphabetical order, to Yasir Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin, for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East. But then look what happened to Rabin - now who murdered Rabin a man of peace who had the Song of Peace in his pocket when he died. nice story here re the award of the Nobel Peace Prize which Arafat shared with RABINremember Rabin? Gunned down by whom? Hey, not Palestinians for many trusted Rabin. So the evil Sharon awaited the demise of Rabin - and do not think this does not hook up to Twin Towers demise. No Rabin was done in by another fanatical jew.Now Arafat and hey - Perez is on that list too and better watch out for this beast Netanyahu is in the running for his son by the way was in on the Hell No We Won't Go to war for Israel, they want the Americans to come over and stand as a buffer zone between the usual suspects for Saturday Night entrtainment on CNN or MSNBC. So Rabin, Arafat, and Perez - and then maybe there were none? So hope Arafat goes out in a blaze of Glory - this man who won a Nobel Peace award while the Butcher of Sabra and of tahe Palestinians and of his own, will take a bow on stage and walk over the dead bodies buried in the Holy land. Did you ever notice Ariel Sharon - the name Ariel and Sharon, is out of Isaiah in the bible.and Ehud Barak, both names here too out of the Judgesmy god, do we have to go through Jeremiah too yet and then Daniel where the President like JFK - and maybe another martyered Pope.oh well, time will tell and there goes another gypsy Moses tromping through the wilderness OSaba THE NORWEGIAN NOBEL COMMITTEE The Nobel Peace Prize for 1994 The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 1994, in alphabetical order, to Yasir Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin, for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East. For several decades, the conflict between Israel and its neighbour states, and between Israelis and Palestinians, has been among the most irreconcilable and menacing in international politics. The parties have caused each other great suffering. By concluding the Oslo Accords, and subsequently following them up, Arafat, Peres and Rabin have made substantial contributions to a historic process through which peace and cooperation can replace war and hate. In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel wrote that the Peace Prize could be awarded to the person who, in the preceding year, shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations. The award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 1994 to Arafat, Peres and Rabin is intended by the Norwegian Nobel Committee to honour a political act which called for great courage on both sides, and which has opened up opportunities for a new development towards fraternity in the Middle East. It is the Committee's hope that the award will serve as an encouragement to all the Israelis and Palestinians who are endeavouring to establish lasting peace in the region. 1993 1995 The Nobel Peace Prize 1994 Press Release Yasser Arafat Biography Shimon Peres Biography Yitzhak Rabin Biography Last modified March 1, 2001 Copyright© 2002 The Nobel Foundation Contact Nobel e-Museum» The Official Web Site of The Nobel Foundation ---BeginMessage--- http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1994/press.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: RESURRECTION
So Larry Silverstein the man who was bankrupt in 1991 and now will receive 7 billion dollars in insurance monies, plus the 124 million or so he received for building 7 where all that fuel oil was stored - 6,000 gallons contrary to law - and some of the men who no doubt died in the Twin Towers had said this is a no no, not legal to put such a hazard in such a zone.but look at Silverstein, who again is just a front man for the biggest gypsies and thieves in the universebut then Rabin, did he pay with his life and this Netanyahu - but worse of all see the Ariel Scheinman Sharon connection for you see now the plan is to also get Negevwhere Silverstein wanted to put this Free Trade Zoneand then, the Minister of Tourism was murdered who took on Sharon - for you see some of these people did not like this Larry Silverstein. So on with the show.as if the demise of the twin towers, was not enough..and here is a little blurp from the bible calendar that day 911? Isaiah, chapter 9 19: Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother. The word fuel is mentioned 5 times in the bible..in Ezekial 3 times Isaiah 2. Now, on with the story re Silverstein and his henchmen and Sharon and Free Trade Zone - laundering site for crooked drug monies... And remember All the World is a Stage and here are some of the bad actors, so on with the show OSaba RESURRECTION David Yerushalmi The thirteenth of the 13 Principles of Faith articulated for Jewry in the 11th century by Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon (Maimonides) testifies to the absolute belief in the Resurrection of the Dead, an event to take place in some as yet unknown future. Without intending any blasphemous comparison, it is this article of faith and the indefatigable and enduring spirit of the policy proposal for a Free Processing Zone in Israel that give rise to yet another article of faith, but this one intended for all of those dedicated to public policy and reform: A policy proposal intended to fundamentally reform a political economy mired in socialist and statist institutions will survive many fatal assaults, and indeed be resurrected, if it is well grounded in factual research, truth, and freedom. To gain some perspective and to place this article of faith in its proper context, consider the following review. In June of 1992, a group of leading U.S. Jewish businessmen formed a company that was to become the Israel Export Development Company (IEDC). The founders of IEDC, men like Robert Tishman, Larry Tisch, Sy Syms and Larry Silverstein, were ardent supporters of the State of Israel. But like many Americans, they were leery of investing directly in Israel. However, it was their fears that made them ready to support the rather grandiose proposal embodied in IEDC's mandate. For all of these men, Israel represented a place to donate millions by way of their favorite charity, be it the United Jewish Appeal or Israel Bonds. To contemplate a real direct investment in Israel was not in the cards. The reason was simple: Israel didn't play by any fixed rules. When it came to allowing the private sector to do what it does best, Israel was not the place to be. It was a land without any real legal protections or level playing fields. The horror stories by these men and their friends about doing business in Israel were legion. Until IEDC came along, this was a nasty truth better kept under wraps and avoided. Philanthropy - yes; entrepreneurship - no. IEDC sought to change this reality through a straight forward policy initiative proposed by IASPS designed to create a free?market business environment liberated from the infamous Israeli bureaucrats and anchored in LAW. Such it was when IEDC shareholders first met with then?Finance Minister Avraham (Beiga) Shohat in September 1992 in New York and made their best pitch, a collective personal guarantee: Enact the Free Processing Zones (FPZ) Law as we have proposed and rest assured that we will spearhead $250 million of direct investment just in the development of the first high?tech, infopark free zone in Israel. The companies that would be attracted to the zone would invest hundreds of millions of dollars more and employ at least 20,000 workers. Beiga Shohat was impressed. Unfortunately, then?Finance Minister Shohat lacked any useful knowledge of economics, business, and free markets. What impressed Shohat was the idea that the world's leading Jewish businessmen had come together in one room and promised a huge investment without asking for anything in return no grants, no loans, no handouts whatsoever just an FPZ Law that guaranteed them a truly free zone that still respected Israel's health, safety, and environmental laws. Indeed, the FPZ Law would still allow the Israeli government to collect a 15 percent
[CTRL] Fwd: CNN.com - Pope urges Arafat to end violence - August 2, 2001
See the date - see the truth? Arafat was begging for International Monitors to come to his aid and the aid of his people. His please were ignored. One month later, plus a few days, the Twin Towers fell - demolition squads and Osama bin Laden was blamedreally? Typical in this country now, to have the news media controlled by Zionists villify a person before a trial.but oh a lid is put on the crematory down there in Georgia, right? The crematory that collected bodies some of which were not to be cremated - the news media protects this evil family as it does Sharon. Nice story here...see UN went to Iraq but UN would not go to Israel and supervise? Arafat was ignored as his people were being butchered and I say this - the Arab Nations are beginning to speak out, they are getting their own newspapers.and the truth is simply this - we now get two sides to a story. Ariel Sharon - Ehud Barak - by their fruits we have known them and as Arafat will give his life for the Palestinians should we wonder if Sharon would do the same ??? Now who really controls these terrorists? So this story shows Arafat begging for International Monitoring. OSaba The Vatican wants an international status protecting Jerusalem as a sacred city for the world's three great monotheistic religions. Israel, which considers Jerusalem its united and eternal capital, rejects this. Pope urges end to violence August 2, 2001 Posted: 10:35 AM EDT (1435 GMT) Pope, a strong supporter of Palestinian rights, held his 10th meeting with Arafat VATICAN CITY -- Pope John Paul II has told Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat that the Middle East crisis had reached a point of unheard of violence. During a 25-minute meeting, the pontiff said both Arabs and Israelis had to break the cycle of attacks and reprisals. The pope and Arafat, who is on a 24-hour visit to Rome, held talks at the Pontiff's summer residence at Castelgandolfo, southeast of Rome. A Vatican statement said the pope felt the Middle East was mired in unheard of violence which continues to mow down victims, above all among the civilian and unarmed population. The statement added: His Holiness...firmly repeated that there is an absolute need to put an end to all types of violence, be they attacks or reprisals, and to get the much hoped for negotiations on the table. The visit has taken on added urgency with the killing of eight Palestinians, including two children, by Israel on Tuesday in a missile strike which it said was made in self defence. IN-DEPTH Mideast Struggle for Peace The statement made no reference to Papal support for international monitors for the PPalestinianterritories, which Arafat had called for on his arrival in Rome. Arafat and his delegation arrived at the pontiff's summer retreat at noon. It was his 10th meeting over the years with John Paul, who has been a strong supporter of Palestinian rights. Earlier he met new Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi, whose office gave no immediate details of the talks. As the two leaders met, about 50 people staged a demonstration outside the premier's office, demanding that the Palestinian Authority stop executions of alleged Israeli informers. The Palestinian leader arrived in Rome on Wednesday, as tens of thousands of Palestinians gathered in the West Bank for the funerals of eight Palestinians killed on Tuesday in an Israeli helicopter raid on a Hamas office in Nablus. In comments at the start of his visit, Arafat said the deaths underscored the need for international observers to be sent to the region quickly -- something Israel has always refused. He warned that the violence in the Middle East could spiral out of control and have repercussions beyond the region if an international force is not deployed. Their presence is very important, and they should be deployed quickly -- and in the largest numbers possible, he said. Both Italy and the Vatican have long expressed support for the rights of the Palestinians -- and both have called for an end to 10 months of violence. The pontiff, who made a historic visit to Israel and the Palestinian territories last year, supports the creation of a Palestinian homeland but also says Israel has a right to exist within secure borders. The Vatican wants an international status protecting Jerusalem as a sacred city for the world's three great monotheistic religions. Israel, which considers Jerusalem its united and eternal capital, rejects this. RELATED STORIES: Israel vows to maintain 'active self-defense' policy August 2, 2001 Palestinian mourners cry revenge August 1, 2001 Pope home after pilgrimage May 9, 2001 Pope leaves Mideast peace message May 8, 2001 Pope pleads for Muslim, Christian forgiveness May 6, 2001 RELATED SITES: The Vatican Palestinian National Authority Note: Pages will open in a new browser window External sites are not endorsed by CNN Interactive. WORLD TOP STORIES: U.N. demands Israeli
Re: [CTRL] Israel's Gene Pool and the Nation of 1,000,000 Atheists
-Caveat Lector- Such a thing Dr. Poley as killing softly with lovelike say I am sick of all the love in the world on one hand, while a gun is in the other The lover who comes as a thief in the night - the soft spoken Jeffrey Dahmers in the night, or the Mr. Wonder, the Ghoul of Georgia Crematorium and family of ghoulssuch lovely people, so at this point in life I believe in some cases it is shoot first, ask questions later - and let the dead bury the dead for that is for what this guy in Georgia was waiting. As they say, some put manure on their strawberries, Dr. Poley - but I prefer cream on mine. How you doing Fang Wanghope all is well - and I know you are great in analyzing what is between the ears of man. IN SOME cases you find nothing.in this recent case - believe you made right diagnosis. Now back to the drawing board. Call me when the war begins - probably be on CNN as usual only looks like two way war this time. No fun pulling wings off butterflies living in refugee camps. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: NEWS.scotsman.com - International - Palestinians fear backlash as Israel rejects Saudi peace plan
Did anyone really believe Ariel Scheinman aka Sharon would accept any peace plan when it was he who started this war and his reign of terror has killed how many innocents and butchered children? Nice story here (take from Euphorian's E Mail)..and I wonder - ever have a feeling the Arab Nations, these Great Arab Nations are playing cat and mouse with this little fly speck on the map for surely, one bit swat and Israel would not longer be on the map. That Sharon is pulling the Tiger and Lion's tail and is about to feel the whiplash? Strange isn't it that Sharon is still alive? Who really trains these suicide bombers or are they just turned loose from the Israel nut house where these terrorists are often held? Are they drugged and programmed there? OSaba SectionsFront PageMain HeadlinesLatest NewsScotlandUKInternationalPoliticsSci-TechHealthEducationEntertainmentGaelicFeaturesOpinionHot TopicsArticle IndexOther SitesBusinessSportPrint EditionsThe ScotsmanScotland on SundayEvening NewsBack Issues ServicesFree News EmailFree WebfeedsSyndication Fri 29 Mar 2002 Ariel Sharon: the Israeli Prime Minister has rejected the Saudi peace initiative. printer friendly email article Palestinians fear backlash as Israel rejects Saudi peace plan Ben Lynfield in Jerusalem AN unprecedented Arab peace offer was overshadowed yesterday by one of the most lethal attacks against Israelis since the start of the Palestinian-Israeli war of attrition. Plans for a major Israeli army offensive showed signs of being moved up in response to the killing by a Palestinian suicide bomber of 20 people and the wounding of 140 on Wednesday night at a Passover banquet in the city of Netanya. Tanks were being brought on carriers to positions near West Bank population centres hours after Israeli forces sliced the Gaza Strip into three sections and barred transit between them. In the northern West Bank, a Palestinian gunman infiltrated the Elon Moreh settlement and killed three people. He was reportedly still boarded up in a house late last night. With a sense that an Israeli offensive was imminent, the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat, said last night he was ready to declare an unconditional ceasefire. He said the Palestinians had informed the US special envoy, Anthony Zinni, that we are ready to immediately begin implementation of the Tenet work plan. Tenet is a US ceasefire blueprint to which Israel has been seeking modifications during recent negotiations. The peace plan issued by the Arab League summit in Beirut was dismissed by Israel as less than overwhelming on the grounds that it fell short of full peace and warm relations and demanded territorial concessions that were too far-reaching to be considered. The basic position unites the lowest common denominator for Arabs but does not offer anything hopeful to Israel, said Dore Gold, an adviser to Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon. Supporters of the plan, however, say it signifies the widest Arab backing for peace with and recognition of Israel. As the Palestinian Authority evacuated offices and installations in Ramallah in anticipation of an Israeli onslaught, Mr Sharon convened cabinet ministers for a discussion of army plans for wide action, according to media reports. Officials were quoted by Israeli media as saying that the government would now disregard any inhibitions on military action it had observed out of deference to the ceasefire efforts of Mr Zinni and that the operation would be wide, deep and would go on for a long time. However, Ephraim Inbar, a leading analyst, said: I do not think we will see a decisive blow. Even the Americans allowed several months in Afghanistan. The accumulation of rage in Israel demands that the government act but the American factor remains unchanged. He was referring to a perceived American interest in not having the Israeli-Palestinian conflict disrupt preparations for attacking Iraq. Mr Inbar added that he was not certain that Mr Sharon's Labour party coalition partner would support a large-scale operation. The terrorist attack in Netanya, carried out by Abdel-Basat Odeh, a militant from Hamas, the Islamic resistance movement, has outraged the entire country and is referred to in the media and government as the Passover massacre. Ninety eight people were still in hospital yesterday, 16 of them in a serious condition. Palestinian police say Odeh knew the territory since he had worked as a waiter in Netanya hotels. The images on Israeli television screens last night were of bloodstained skullcaps, screaming ambulances and stunned survivors rather than of Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia outlining the Arab world's conditions for peace. The often stormy two-day summit in Beirut endorsed a Saudi plan offering Israel peace and normal ties if it returned all occupied Arab lands and agreed to live alongside a Palestinian state. The plan insisted that Israel also agree to a just solution to the Palestinian refugee
[CTRL] Fwd: EU imposing steel taxes of their own
Won't dealing with this EU be just lovely; and just think they get to form their own little army. Next time they want the yanks to save their asses, remember - their boots were made for walking all over us. Well they never got Ireland into this cess pool and give them time - won't this be lovely goose stepping throughout Europe and this is why THE POPE MUST DIE. Master Plan calls for the destruction of the Catholic Church and the murder of the Pope in the open sight of others - suddenly, sudden death like JFK and RFK wasn't it March when Reagan was shot? This is the year of tahe astrologers.but no longer are they permitted to mark our President for murder - the scientists took care of that . My God Its Alive.and to think this EU will have an army. OSaba EU imposing steel taxes of their ownOfficial: Tariffs tacked on as protection against U.S. measures BRUSSELS, March 25 The European Union is to impose tariffs of 14.9 to 26 percent on steel imports to protect itself from a possible surge of material diverted away from the United States by high new duties, an official said on Monday. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.msnbc.com/news/729151.asp?cp1=1 ---End Message---
[CTRL] Janet Reno Is Six Foot Two
In high heels that would make her big enough to play basketball. Can't you see her but which shower room would she use, the girls or the boys. For you see once off list someone sent me a letter - a person I did not even know and said check it out for yourself, that Janet Reno was really a man. I do not know. But I did not, for I had really no way - later she would be out but now she is running for what - she would make a nice warden in the pennitentiary right? Or Hangman or one who pulls the switch? So anyway, this man said she had been a man and had one of those operations - that in the year book, was it Miami - that there was only a John Reno in her class and school annual showed this to be true. Now I have seen never in my life a woman who walked with her left hand like Alley Oop..and I know I should not poke fun at herbut Jay Leno spelled it out in his own way... So Save The Children Reno, is a Lesbian but also had a sex change...now why would anyone send me a story such as this if it would not be true - but left the checking out for me to do. Does anyone really care if she is a man or a woman? No - and if you think she has a sense of humour, think again - someone is putting words in her mouth, for she is trying to kid herself out of being characterized as the Mad Butcher of Waco.remember it was she who ordered all the D Platoons, tanks and flamethrowers , FBI and BATF - down to Waco to Save the Children - yet, what if the order had been given by HIlliary Clinton as was once reported? Jeb Bush should stay out of her way for she looks like she could beat the hell out of him and that is literally, not figuratively. OSaba Hope she never runs for President .imagine Janet Reno meeting the Queen (pardon) - tell me would she bow or curtsey. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/3/28/162622 ---End Message---
[CTRL] Bojinka Back in News
Interesting item.Bojinka, means big noise like Q'Aida means the Basewhat is in a name This item re murdering the Pope I found interesting, and does anybody really believe a Muslim engineered the Murder, of the head of the ROMAN not Italian Catholic Church? Cui Bono? Like JFK the present Pope was gunned down as people cried and cheeredBUT HE DID NOT FALL in the open field which is a muststrange in Daniel you find the threat of the assassinations of the HIgh Priests (symbolizing the Pope) and the President of the United State - for thee are three presidents ans/or high priests mention in Daniel .who was it Jack Ruby after murdering Oswald to silence him over and over again said Shadrach, Meschenk, and Abenego - straight out of Daniel - leaving little clues along the way but Pope John also died that year in 1963.. Nice story but first Bojinka - big noice, is this Peter's Big Bang - was this code name Bojinka code name for murder of the Pope for you see in this 20 year cycle where the King Must Die the Pope must also die and this is what is going to happen very soon now, just as when Reagan was shot - Ronald Reagan was gunned down in March of 1981 - the Pope was gunned down, in May of 1981..for this was part of the 20 year Astrologer's Curse - right? Problem - the President did not die, nor did the Pope die for by a miracle, they lived.. The man who shot the Pope - the Pope forgave him, but do not think the Pope did not know what had happened just as Ronald Reagan knew and any other top intelligent boy knew..and the Kennedy brothers murdered in a vicious vendetta, So Bojinka - St. Peter, the Fisherman - was hanged upside down on a cross it was alleged.the Pope sits above the burial site of Saint Peter - he is surrounded by four men - the Catholic Church is set for destruction and I might add good Catholics believe their Church to be eternal and Jean Dixon, this murdering old bitch who used words to mark the Kennedys and the Pope for murder - Regardless the Feds after the pranksters in the psychic network of devlish feinds - when they marked Gerald Ford over and over again for an accident and he became so accident prone it was a standing joke on Saturday Night Live - Eric Severeid a spokesman no doubt for the CFR (Walter Lippman had already marked democrats for murder) - Severeid on his show remarked The Scientists say the Astrologers have gone too far and golly gee no astrologer from thaat time on was ever permitted to mark the President for murder, over and over and over again. So here is from whence came Peters Big Bang as it is called or this Bojinka - code name was not brought up by any Osama bin Laden - these are doomsdayers and the doomsday clock is how many minutes to midnight? Bible, King James. 2 Peter, from The holy Bible, King James version Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library | Table of Contents for this work | | All on-line databases | Etext Center Homepage | 2 Peter, chapter 3 Compare with Revised Standard Version: 2Pet.03 1: This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2: That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: 3: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4: And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9: The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. **Peters Big Bang or Bojinka here (saba note) 10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11: Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13: Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein
[CTRL] Fwd: CNN.com - Man who shot pope pardoned in Italy - June 13, 2000
Interesting item - regardless this ROMAN not Italian Catholic Pope was one of the greatest Popes in the History of the Church..so sit back and watch the show now, and see if these bastards think they will destroy the Church economically, politically, and socially for you know it is the gold they are after.but now at least the Church can flush out the homosexuals who broke their vows - kind of like that crooked cop - the one rotten apple in the barrel who would destroy the rest, unless weeded out...for the enemy operates from within and without. Saba world europe myCNN | Video | Audio | Headline News Brief | Free E-mail | Feedback Search WORLD TOP STORIES Thousands dead in India; quake toll rapidly rising Israelis, Palestinians make final push before Israeli election Gates pledges $100 million for AIDS Davos protesters face tear gas (MORE) TOP STORIES Thousands dead in India; quake toll rapidly rising Israelis, Palestinians make final push before Israeli election Davos protesters face tear gas (MORE) BUSINESS Nasdaq: good day, tough quarter Andersen adopts Volcker reforms Hewlett claims HP fixed Compaq vote (MORE) MARKETS 4:30pm ET, 3/28 DJIA 23.00 10403.90 NAS 18.60 1845.35 SP 2.81 1147.39 SPORTS The coach's take on the Final Four Red Wings clinch Presidents' Trophy with 3-3 tie Garnett gets stitches, leads T'wolves past Mavs (MORE) All Scoreboards WEATHER All cities U.S. Bush: No help from Washington for California power crunch POLITICS Bush signs order opening 'faith-based' charity office for business LAW Prosecutor says witnesses saw rap star shoot gun in club TECHNOLOGY Napster to launch fee-based service ENTERTAINMENT Can the second 'Survivor' live up to the first? HEALTH Heart doctors debate ethics of testing super-aspirin TRAVEL Nurses to aid ailing airline passengers FOOD Texas cattle quarantined after violation of mad-cow feed ban ARTS STYLE Ceramist Adler adds furniture to his creations (MORE HEADLINES) MAINPAGE WORLD africa americas asia pacific europe middle east U.S. WEATHER BUSINESS SPORTS TECHNOLOGY SPACE HEALTH ENTERTAINMENT POLITICS LAW CAREER TRAVEL FOOD ARTS STYLE BOOKS NATURE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS LOCAL EDITIONS: CNN.com Europe change default edition MULTIMEDIA: video video archive audio multimedia showcase more services E-MAIL: Subscribe to one of our news e-mail lists. Enter your address: DISCUSSION: message boards chat feedback CNN WEB SITES: CNNfyi.com CNN.com Europe AsiaNow Spanish Portuguese German Italian Danish Japanese Chinese Headlines Korean Headlines TIME INC. SITES: CNN NETWORKS: CNN anchors transcripts Turner distribution SITE INFO: help contents search ad info jobs WEB SERVICES: Main | Biography | Successors | Selection Process | Photo Essay Quiz | Video Gallery | Pictorial Biography | Legacy Man who shot pope pardoned in Italy Mehmet Ali Agca shot Pope John Paul II at St. Peter's Square on May 13, 1981 June 13, 2000 Web posted at: 1:52 p.m. EDT (1752 GMT) In this story: Pope credits miraculous recovery No proof of conspiracy RELATED STORIES, SITES ROME -- Mehmet Ali Agca, the man who tried to assassinate Pope John Paul II in 1981, will be extradited to Turkey after Italy's president issued a pardon on Tuesday for the papal shooting. Agca will serve the remainder of a 10-year sentence in Turkey for the murder of newspaper editor Abdi Ipekci. He shot the pope after escaping from jail while being held on charges of murdering Ipekci and was later sentenced to death in absentia by his native country. A 1991 amnesty reduced the Turkish death sentence to 10 years in prison. VIDEO Clip of the attempted assasination of Pope John Paul II MESSAGE BOARD Tell us your views on the pardon This morning the president of the republic signed the clemency decree for Mehmet Ali Agca, and simultaneously the Justice Minister signed an extradition decree which will send him back to Turkey, a spokesman for Italian President Carlo Azeglio Ciampi said on Tuesday. The pope, who met Agca in prison, publicly forgave him three days after the May 13, 1981, shooting, which occurred as the pope rode in an open car across St. Peter's Square. Agca, now 43 years old, shot the pope point-blank and was captured immediately. Chief Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said John Paul was satisfied with Ciampi's action. As you know, John Paul II immediately pardoned his attacker and for some time now the pope had told Italian authorities that he was in favor of an act of clemency if Italian law permitted it, Navarro-Valls said. He has been insisting on this for some time. We are not surprised. We are very happy. Agca's attorneys reported that their client thanked the pope and the Vatican when told the news. This is a dream. I cannot believe it, news reports quoted the gunman as saying in comments relayed by his lawyer. Pope credits miraculous recovery Hit in the abdomen, left hand and right arm, the pontiff was critically wounded
[CTRL] Ronald Reagan - The President They Could Not Kill
Nor could they murder the Pope that year, for surely it was a bad year for the Assassins... And note, Reagan, Kennedy, McKinley all assassinated, were Irish (McKinley Scotch Irish)..Ambrose Bierce it is said was run out of the country (on his own) for a curious little quantrain he wrote for Hearst, his boss - Goebbels was Govenor of Kentucky as I recall he had been assassinated (not just wounded) - but newspapers some have a tendency don't they of putshing some and certain people to their graves so who controls the news media? By Ambrose Bierce The bullet that pierced Goebells breast, Cannot be found in all the west Good reason it is speeding here - To place McKinley, on the Bier. And within a matter of days, McKinley way lying on the bier having been assassinated - Bierce took off to Mexico. Don't know much about McKinley but that he was Irish and marked for murder by someone's front man. You see some of this is Premeditated Murder by Prophecy - one ha a pen, and the other a gun so Bierce and Dixon scored in combination 3 hits, by prophecy aided by the assassins and both no doubt infiltrated many different orders. Both were paid much for their gainsaying for their masters. Might add Bierce and Hearst were all Rosicrucians - The Pope and Reagan - survivied. in 1981 The Pope and JFK - died in 1963 Strange the desire to kill the ones with the most charisma, but no other way to beaat them - right OSaba RONALD REAGAN by Peggy Noonan: In a president, character is everything. A president doesn't have to be brilliant; Harry Truman wasn't brilliant, and he helped save Western Europe from Stalin. He doesn't have to be clever; you can hire clever. White Houses are always full of quick-witted people with ready advice on how to flip a senator or implement a strategy. You can hire pragmatic, and you can buy and bring in policy wonks. But you can't buy courage and decency, you can't rent a strong moral sense. A president must bring those things with him. If he does, they will give meaning and animation to the great practical requirement of the presidency: He must know why he's there and what he wants to do. He has to have thought it through. He needs to have, in that much maligned word, but a good one nontheless, a vision of the future he wishes to create. This is a function of thinking, of the mind, the brain. But a vision is worth little if a president doesn't have the character--the courage and heart--to see it through (Reagan) had the vision. Did he have the courage without which it would be nothing but a poignant dream? Yes. At the core of Reagan's character was courage, a courage that was, simply, natural to him, a courage that was ultimately contagious. When people say President Reagan brought back our spirit and our sense of optimism, I think what they are saying in part is, the whole country caught his courage. There are many policy examples, but I believe when people think of his courage, they think first of what happened that day in March 1981 when he was shot. He tried to walk into the hospital himself but his knees buckled and he had to be helped. They put him on a gurney, and soon he started the one-liners. Quoting Churchill, he reminded everyone that there's nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without effect. To Mrs. Reagan, it was, Honey, I forgot to duck. To the doctors, I just hope you're Republicans. To which one doctor replied, Today Mr. President we're all Republicans. Maybe he caught Reagan's courage too. But Reagan the political figure had a form of courage that I think is the hardest and most demanding kind. A general will tell you that anyone can be brave for five minutes; the adrenaline pumps, you do things of which you wouldn't have thought yourself capable. But Reagan had that harder and more exhausting courage, the courage to swim against the tide. And we all forget it now because he changed the tide. Looking back, we forget that the political mood of today, in which he might find himself quite comfortable, is quite different from the political mood the day he walked into politics. But he had no choice, he couldn't not swim against the tide. In the fifties and sixties all of his thoughts and observations led him to believe that Americans were slowly but surely losing their freedoms. When he got to Hollywood as a young man in his twenties, he shared and was impressed by the general thinking of the good and sophisticated people of New York and Hollywood with regard to politics. He was a liberal Democrat, as his father was, and he felt a great attachment to the party. He was proud that his father had refused to take him and his brother Moon to the movie, Birth of a Nation, with its racial stereotypes. And he bragged that his father, Jack, a salesman, had, back long ago when Reagan was a kid, once spent the night in his car rather than sleep in a hotel that wouldn't take Jews. Ronald Reagan as a young man was a Roosevelt supporter, he
[CTRL] NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story
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[CTRL] Public Schools Rehired Sexual Pervert
Wednesday, March 27, 2002 N.Y. Times Ignores School Molestations The New York Times, like the Boston Globe and other members of the leftist, anti-religious media establishment, has prominently run numerous articles about pedophiles and homosexual molesters among the Catholic clergy - but is strangely silent about the molestation scandals in our wretched government schools. Parents at a Harlem middle school said yesterday they were shocked that a school aide, accused of sexual abuse four years ago, returned to the school to allegedly prey on a second teen - because cops were never told about the earlier incident, the New York Post reported today. I'm totally horrified, said former MS 54 Parent Association president Betsy Combier, who has a seventh-grade daughter at the school. The procedures to protect our children aren't there. Fanon White, a 31-year-old aide, was charged with statutory rape and sodomy. He was fired in 1998 when a student accused him of repeated sexual abuse. After he challenged his firing, state bureaucrats reinstated him with back pay in May 2000. He is also accused of sexually abusing another 14-year-old pupil outside the school last fall. A search of the Times and its Web site revealed no coverage at all of this case. Is it because the Iron Lady, packed with advertisements of luxury goods, doesn't care what happens to poor people in Harlem? Or is the silence due to the lack of a priest's involvement? This is the same newspaper, you'll recall, that censored all mention of the horrific rape and murder of young Jesse Dirkhising by two Arkansas homosexuals. Of course, had the killers been clergymen the story would have been big news. Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics: Media Bias A product that might interest you: Get the video of Chris Ruddy vs. Mike Wallace - Blows the lid off media cover-ups! Printer Friendly Version Inside Cover Stories MSNBC Revamps for Cable Ratings War Aides Join Condit in Hot Seat Robert Ray: I Can Work With Hillary 'Bitch' Maxine Waters Enraged at L.A. Police Official New York Times Ignores School Molestations Hillary Chum Touts Presidential Run on Irish Trip IRS Exposes Offshore Credit Cards Vicente Fox: Immigration Lawbreakers Not 'Illegals' Oscars Expose Hollywood Bigotry Ray Won't Discuss Secret Clinton Evidence Carville Demands Refund from Zell Miller More Inside Cover Stories Contact Us · Financial News · Late-Night Jokes · Article Archives · Employment Ops. NewsMax.com Privacy Statement All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com ---BeginMessage--- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/3/27/173612 ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Britain accused on terror lab claim
-Caveat Lector- Knew that was a lie too whenI read it - furthere there are so many anthrax germs in Afghanistan - none too fatal of course, but it is a land of camels, sheep, goats and goat hair now used for certain materials for importing purposes must be loaded with the stuff. USA and Russian or the Soviety Union had all the good stuff and the USA was a leader in collectiong oh so many nice plagues in a bottle. Tlhis idiot who lived 30 miles from me had bubonic plague germs which he just bought from a lab and of course, they tried to say he was an Aryan Nationi connector and if he was you can be sure he was informer for FBI. Just noted today, had a show on WACO, and there stood Janet Reno in red, telling how they wanted to save the children and my god, I knew there ws something sinister but there were these men wearing Nazi war helments - and I mean looked like they went to a Nazi surplus store - and lo and behold they turned around and the uniforms said FBI. Now since when did FBI start wearing Nazi German soldier helmets, and I mean battle helmets. Were these Israeli trained terrosts and were this god damned helmets used for spite. About time Bush cut them off from CIA and Intelligence Activity for you know - the KGB has maps and plans of Washington DC including all the secret tunnels, etc., and New York City - and don't tell me this Hannsen and that Japanese killer who was at Waco and Ruby Ridge, who murdered a little 8ths graders dog while the others murdered the kid and who bliew off a woman's face who was holdiong a baby - do not tell me this men are Catholic or FBI - rather obvious for whom they worked - Maybe too many lost laptop computers and stolen secrets - and you see the end result now in New York City and also the end result of what was planned, for Washington DC. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Lies, Lies and More Lies......Or this guy Daschle is getting senile
-Caveat Lector- There has been a Shadow Goveernment since WWII.that I know of for sure. Used to be in cities there would be bomb shelters but when it comes to direct hit don't know how safe . Hub Taft had bomb shelter in Cincinnati, Ohio (my sister had worked for Tafts) but one day in the 1968 or 69 time frame, he went to chek out his shelter and boom..what got me he had a gardner by then name of Liming(remember The Third Man movie) whom I always thought at the least was a spy - Any must sister had been working down there as she worked for Taft Broadcasting and WKRC...they had a big yacht and lived high on hog and this Hub Taft was said to be a very kind and gentle soul - anyway my sister liked him. OSaba Shadowy Government Story By Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid March 27, 2002 On March first, the Washington Post lead story was headlined, Shadow Government Is at Work in Secret. The article purported to break the news that in the name of the classified Continuity of Operations Plan, a cold war contingency in case of nuclear war, the Bush administration was secretly operating a back-up government in a location that the Post agreed to keep secret. This was held up as evidence implying that under the cover of fighting a war on terrorism, the Bush administration was engaged in some sort of dark conspiracy. The plans include the long-term housing of between seventy-five and a hundred-fifty senior administration officials from various executive branch cabinet offices. The term shadow government quickly became secret government, as in Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle's comments that, None of us knew about the secret government,. He said this to Tony Snow on Fox News Sunday, citing it as an example of the chasm that exists between the Bush administration and Congress when it comes to information on the war. Tony Snow, however, had done his homework, and asked Daschle if he hadn't actually been to one of the sites since September 11th. Well, Daschle replied, I don't know if that's the site.. I'm told it is, said Snow, So now you know. NewsMax.com quickly picked up on this story, and pointed out that news of the so-called Shadow Government had been reported last October in the Cleveland Plain Dealer. And indeed it had. The article spoke in great detail of the plan including as many as two-hundred employees from the federal government. It said they work in secure facilities outside Washington D.C., as part of a continuity of operations plan. The plan's purpose: to make sure the U.S. government can operate if cataclysm strikes. The program dates back to Ronald Reagan, who set this up for situations of national security emergencies. Congress had held hearings, and appropriated money for it through the various administrations. Following Daschle's charges of a secret government, and that Congress hadn't been informed, the White House disputed that account, saying the appropriate people on Capitol Hill knew about it. House Speaker Dennis Hastert acknowledged having been fully briefed. In addition, Senator Robert Byrd was briefed by a military official, but after a few minutes Byrd ended the briefing, saying it wasn't necessary. The Secretary of the Senate and the Senate sergeant at arms, both of whom work for Daschle, acknowledged full briefings. The air finally came out of this story when Daschle backed down. Four days after the story broke, he went to the White House for a meeting, and spokesman Ari Fleischer announced that they had reiterated to the Senator information that had previously been provided to people who work for him. An obviously embarrassed Daschle then announced, I think there ought to be a cease-fire on who knew what. I'm satisfied a contingency plan is in place that takes into account a pretty dramatic need for succession. Now we're just waiting to hear from the Post. Reed Irvine can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Like What You Read? | Back To Media Monitors Section | AIM Main Page | A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] Do Freedom of Information Act Files Prove Foreknowledge Of Pearl Harbor? (1 of 2
-Caveat Lector- Note this book this guy wrote AT DAWN WE SLEPT.and JFK wrote a book WHILE ENGLAND SLEPT. So Japanese have masonic orders, and the Emporer of Japan it is said was a Mason - evidently he was familiar with Illuminati - when you look at Stalin and Roosevelt and Churchill (who was definitely Illuminati) - one sees Sadaam Hussein, George Bush, and Tony Blair but somehow they do not come off at the Big Three of WWIIso goodbye New World Order for the internet has been its greatest stumbling block. After muder of JFK a lot of clues were left by insiders sworn to secretcy for those with enquiring minds. So this item from Mathew - once when I was in the midst of my research I read this stuff about Roosevelt or whomever knowing about the attack on Pearl Harbor in advance. So I checked my bible calendar code the one in the GIDEON BIBLE..and sure enough this Chapter from Mathew - and in this one bible I had which had concordance on the top left side of page had the caption The Rising Sun.figure that. So if you read this chapter, you find by the dawn's early light on a sunday the first few verses and the word DAWN.Japanese attack word was Climb Mt. N.and I can never remember that mountain but it was not Nebo, for Martin Luther King, Jomo Kenyatta, and Moses climbed that one and Jomo who wanted to avoid crucifixion playing role of Moses (see Norman McKenzies Secret Societies) - Jomo saved his own skin and what do these men all have in common, Jomo, King, were Black Masons an Moses, well I Am That I Am - he might have been a Royal Arch for all we know. Anyway JFK and the author of the other book knew something too - no doubt as militiary men, they knew the deep and secret meanings of the bible, some of which only the IMAM will now. OSaba The King James Bible Matt.28 1: In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. (Sunday, Dawn - first Day of the week) 2: And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. 3: His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: 4: And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men. 5: And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6: He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. (rising son - or sun - sabo note) 7: And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. (symbolism of The Rising Sun or Son saba note) 8: And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. 9: And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. 10: Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. 11: Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done. 12: And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers, ** 13: Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept. ** 14: And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you. 15: So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day. 16: Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17: And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Regardless, While We Slept - like Twin Towers..strange isn't it for the Twin Towers is linked to this bible calendar too - date wise - even mentioning David Kore(sh) Fiery Flying Serpents and when the Towers fell.strange. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives
[CTRL] Fwd: CTRL] Majesty Twelve: By William Cooper
that idea, and has supported its formation. When the leader of the USSR banged his shoe on his desk at the United Nations and screamed, We do not have to invade the United States we will destroy you from within, he was absolutely correct. The progression of accomplishments toward the completion of the plan to implement one world socialist totalitarian government is guided and controlled by the hierarchy of the Illuminati in the groups known as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, the Round Table Group, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and many others including the Illuminati in government and industry who are members of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern and Northern Jurisdictions, the Supreme Council of the York Rite of Freemasonry, International Zionism, B'nai B'rith, the Grande Lodge of France, the Grande Lodge of England, the Order of the Golden Dawn, the Ordo Templi Orientalis, the Rosae Crucae, the Sovereign and Military Order of the Knights of Malta, the Knights Templar, the Jason Society, the Vatican, and many others too numerous to list, see the Occult and other links on our home page. Part V Politicians are controlled through the accumulation of dossiers by the FBI, the IRS, the CIA, the Mossad, MI6, the ADL, the KGB, and other Illuminati controlled organizations. Those who do not have incidents in their past that allow control by blackmail will be put in positions by one or more of the above organizations that will result in one or more incidents which will allow control by blackmail. The Las Vegas Brothel run by Bob Lazar was found to have video cameras throughout and was used for the collection of information with which to blackmail politicians, military personnel, and anyone else who needed to be controlled by the Illuminati. Anyone who will not play by the Illuminati rules are weeded out and quickly disappear from politics. Remember that it was 33rd Degree Freemason Franklin Roosevelt who created the Federal Bureau of Investigation run by 33rd Degree Freemason Hoover. The FBI and IRS are, in fact, the political Gestapo for the Illuminati in the united States of America. The end result of all of this will be the destruction of the sovereignty and Constitution of the united States of America. All those in and out of government who support the policy of one world government are knowingly and willingly engaged in High Treason. Regardless of what you have been led to believe Senator Joseph McCarthy was absolutely correct and in fact the recent opening of the files of the KGB proved that he even knew the exact number of communist agents who had infiltrated our government. The revelations of history, the records of the KGB, and the recent release of the NSA deciphered cables to and from Moscow by the Venona Project have vindicated Senator Joseph McCarthy. He was destroyed by the Marxist owned and controlled news media and Hollywood. The branding of anyone who dared to expose communists and their goal of the ultimate destruction of the United States of America as McCarthyites insured the increased infiltration and rapid takeover of our government by Marxist and communists over the intervening years. Those who believe in the Book of Revelation in the King James version of the Holy Bible and other religious and/or superstitious People are being intentionally led into millennium fever so that they will calmly await without opposition to the new world order the workings of the hand of God. After all... who could oppose the bringing to fruition of the inspired prophetic Revelation of God. There is more... much more... as you will come to realize on your own over the coming months and years. Of the hundreds of predictions which William Cooper has made based upon this knowledge he has only been wrong once... so we recommend you take this revelation very seriously. Seek out and join a Militia or form one in your area. If you wish to remain Free you will have to fight for it... not because we want to fight ,or you want to fight, but because the traitors will give us no choice in the matter. Saba Note: Is Bob Lazar one of the Traitors? And Testor Toys and its theft of intellectual property of others - cui bono? ---BeginMessage--- http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg37762.html ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] More on the Black Water Phenomenon
-Caveat Lector- So Edward and Andrew is this the heating up of the water someway for the weather control program this el nino and la nina? Remembr the little sea animals used these jet streams in the waters to travel.when the lemmings disappear in the water they do not drowned - for they enter into these currents and are taken far away. Even sea turtles use them. But suddenly they have found a lot of these sea animals who travel no doubt around the world in these streams dead or dying Think they are heating it upand now I still remember the project where Russians wanated to put black soot on the snow to do with this weather program.black would keep light out of the seas, right and then would the fish die and plant life etc. be effected. So Bermuda Triangle - what a crock that was for this was all about Weather Modification but people would rather like fruit cakes believe in UFO's and devils in the sea. OSaba Black Water..like dead sea A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More on the Black Water Phenomenon
-Caveat Lector- Andrew remember we were warned the year of la Nina and el Nino and I believe they heat up these streams some way so what if they like Mt St. Helene set off something under there with same effect. Psalm 46 the Baconian Cypherthere is a river but this time is it underground jet streamsand as they say too what brings on the sharks so close to the shore is like riddle why did the leopard climb the mountain. Just a thought. How you doing Andrew - love your site on the webbeautiful. So now you are musician and writer - and your knowledge into the occult, etc. is really something. Colleen A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Was there a Leak on Noah's ARK? Mass Exodus in Israel
-Caveat Lector- Here again does Israel know something we do not know - will someone set off a little Israeli nuclear backpack and blame on Muslims. Better yet - note in this item the Israelis await our troops to come to Israel to save them again - from whom and what? Why themselves. Further - it would seem to me that this mass exodus like lemmings to the sea is hiding a great truth. Like Oklahoma that day, remember who all did not show up to work? And oh the Twin Towers - well that terrorist insurance was the best investment this former bankrupted Silverstein who has cut deals in Israel, ever made. So behold, what awaits Israel for you see the scapegoats have been called upon to get shot at for these cowardly Israeli soldiers now want out - oh not much fun when Palestinians start to fight back with litle bombs - but are the really Palestinian Terrorists - what about that nut house in which reside many terrorists - think there is a chance some have been programmed there and Negav where American Negros deparatment under guise of Black House of Israel - any of them going to return like maybe this one terrorist who said he was French but does not speak French left holding the bag? Like little John Walker Lindh putting on the phoney French Moroccan accent? So rats leaving the ship of state maybe letting others to die - say like Twin Towers for to drop from 10,000 dead to 3,000 - thats indicator something wrong here - were there those who stayed home to watch the Big Show on TV that day? So on with the show - CNN and MSNBC usually thrive on disasters.now in Germany the rich ones it is said got away...Kissinger, Albright - and Herr Kissingr you are aware was KGB agent Code Name Boroh this alleged brilliant man lapdog to Rockefellers but has the servant replaced the masters? Nice story is true - some people like to suffer and others like to inflict the pain - which only Bill Clinton seemed to feel - but not at Waco where the hand of Israeli terrorism was evident - did they train these homsepun boys to be killersand in Florida Israeli terrorists training D Platoons to protect Americans but at the same time - planning a little torture too boys? Israel is sick - but the sickest of the lot is the Slaughterman, Arien Scheinman Sharon.oh he must thrive on pain and suffering.I imagine he was a good soldier at Sabra but tell me think he will ever live long enough to be tried as War Criminal - Saba E-mail message From: xx Date: Mon, Mar 25, 2002, 6:06am The Next 72 Hours No man knoweth the hour - but the next 72 could be exciting. A mass exodus is occurring from Israel. 200,000 have left for Passover elsewhere. In-tourism down to 25% or less than normal. Planes arriving quite empty and leaving quite full. Many college foreign dormitories practically empty that before had large enrollments from North America. Hotels and such facilities filled to only 10 to 20% capacity. Many facilities like the Latter Day Saint campus practically empty. Cruise ships not visiting and many exchange and other programs cancelled. This has been going on for months but has greatly accelerated in last few weeks and days. , There has been discussion of sending US troops to Israel as observers and peacekeepers for a proposed ceasefire. There will be plenty of facilities to house them. US troops are very much on the move. Complaints from N. Korea and China about US bomber movements. US General reported to Congress last week that it is necessary because of shortage of aircraft carriers for the Pacific (the carriers have been sent to Mid-east). He said it is consequently necessary to land base bombers in South Korea and Alaska. China replied, Do not look upon Taiwan as a land based carrier. Correspondent in Winnipeg reported several times seeing fighter escorted B-52s headed North at high altitude. Wanted to know reason why. Above was my explanation. US troops also reported very much on movement in Mideast. Being shifted out of Saudi Arabia to other locations. Over 7,000 British Troops arrived in Pakistan this week. Britain notified Iran and Iraq that they would initiate use of nukes if either of them used WMD. Not as strong a position as US which has said it may use tactical nukes for a variety of reasons. Turkey said it would not commit troops to fighting Iraq but would provide logistical support. Saddam restrained - because given first action by him and US would pounce in a moment and then other Arab countries might say - Well, Saddam, you brought it on yourself. All united, however, that US should not attack Iraq - but general consensus is that this is not going to restrain US. Israel completing 20,,000 reservist recall. Troops on extremely high alert for 25th (tomorrow). Lots and lots of terrorist activity - but while being reported not being dramatized in papers. Very little Israeli response - almost all preventitive ratther than retributive. Israel showing
[CTRL] Forsooth - Are the Gideons Coming to Steal more Gold
Picture Orde Wingate going to war with his bible open to the Judges in the Bible and the story of Gideonthis man was a psycho and paid killer - an English Zionist who paved the way to hell. The call these Gideon Forces, for Gideon was a hit and run expert like Tim McVeigh wonder if Israel still has those little nuclear back packs. On Guard for they always get you when your guard is down, right? OSaba Story of the Golden Earrings - and paid mercenaries hired to slaughter innocents The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Judges, chapter 8 1: And the men of Ephraim said unto him, Why hast thou served us thus, that thou calledst us not, when thou wentest to fight with the Midianites? And they did chide with him sharply. 2: And he said unto them, What have I done now in comparison of you? Is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abi-ezer? 3: God hath delivered into your hands the princes of Midian, Oreb and Zeeb: and what was I able to do in comparison of you? Then their anger was abated toward him, when he had said that. 4: And Gideon came to Jordan, and passed over, he, and the three hundred men that were with him, faint, yet pursuing them. 5: And he said unto the men of Succoth, Give, I pray you, loaves of bread unto the people that follow me; for they be faint, and I am pursuing after Zebah and Zalmunna, kings of Midian. 6: And the princes of Succoth said, Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand, that we should give bread unto thine army? 7: And Gideon said, Therefore when the LORD hath delivered Zebah and Zalmunna into mine hand, then I will tear your flesh with the thorns of the wilderness and with briers. 8: And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him. 9: And he spake also unto the men of Penuel, saying, When I come again in peace, I will break down this tower. 10: Now Zebah and Zalmunna were in Karkor, and their hosts with them, about fifteen thousand men, all that were left of all the hosts of the children of the east: for there fell an hundred and twenty thousand men that drew sword. 11: And Gideon went up by the way of them that dwelt in tents on the east of Nobah and Jogbehah, and smote the host: for the host was secure. 12: And when Zebah and Zalmunna fled, he pursued after them, and took the two kings of Midian, Zebah and Zalmunna, and discomfited all the host. 13: And Gideon the son of Joash returned from battle before the sun was up, 14: And caught a young man of the men of Succoth, and inquired of him: and he described unto him the princes of Succoth, and the elders thereof, even threescore and seventeen men. 15: And he came unto the men of Succoth, and said, Behold Zebah and Zalmunna, with whom ye did upbraid me, saying, Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand, that we should give bread unto thy men that are weary? 16: And he took the elders of the city, and thorns of the wilderness and briers, and with them he taught the men of Succoth. 17: And he beat down the tower of Penuel, and slew the men of the city. (Wonder of wonders - another Tower beaten down and by whom and what? Maybe like Twin Towers - saba note - and boy there was a lot of gold at the bottom of the Twin Towers which belonged to the Ishmalaites - Saudi Gold, big bucksand then the gold Silverstein gets 7 billion dollars in insurance - saba note) 18: Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna, What manner of men were they whom ye slew at Tabor? And they answered, As thou art, so were they; each one resembled the children of a king. 19: And he said, They were my brethren, even the sons of my mother: as the LORD liveth, if ye had saved them alive, I would not slay you. 20: And he said unto Jether his firstborn, Up, and slay them. But the youth drew not his sword: for he feared, because he was yet a youth. 21: Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, Rise thou, and fall upon us: for as the man is, so is his strength. And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and took away the ornaments that were on their camels' necks. 22: Then the men of Israel said unto Gideon, Rule thou over us, both thou, and thy son, and thy son's son also: for thou hast delivered us from the hand of Midian. 23: And Gideon said unto them, I will not rule over you, neither shall my son rule over you: the LORD shall rule over you. 24: And Gideon said unto them, I would desire a request of you, that ye would give me every man the earrings of his prey. (For they had golden earrings, because they were Ishmaelites.) (So here we have grave robbers virtually - taking gold from the dead bodies of Ishmalites..seems to be a lot of that going on today - right - saba note) 25: And they answered, We will willingly give them. And they spread a garment, and did cast therein every man the earrings of his prey. 26: And the weight of the golden earrings that he requested
Re: [CTRL] Whose Got The Funk? (was: opposition to Israel)
-Caveat Lector- Well Joshua Tinnin is a low browtoo and I do pronounce you and June man and wife. Here we have it, a marriage made in hell. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Report of de Mohrenschildt's suicide was missing.
-Caveat Lector- A lot of these documents are sold and put on black market; for instance Elvis Presley's autopsy report disappeared and Bob Pope, Head of the National Enquirer offered $50,000 for it.this was the original reportso some who had the copies of this might have made a few bucks. Bob Pope was also CIA and lived right across the street from de Mohrenschildtit is said accordiong to my friend that during the night though the windows had been barricaded, etc., one could see lights in the house after he suicided AS I recall a quite a few witnesses either suicided or were fold in oil drums cut down to size like Johnny Rosselli - and as they say where there is a testament thre must by necessity be, the death of the testator - or knock off the witnesses for dead men tell no tales. Pope also ordered $50,000 for the location of Jimmy Hoffa and when my friend found out about this man who was in the same cell with Hoffa for over a year, who had entertained Meyer Lansky on his farm, and who was up for murder charges, etc etc etc.had a few calls for me to go to work to get info - and then I discovered I was spying on murder inc. Nice people.but then again, dead men tell no tales and after all these days, intellectual property theft is quite common - OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Whose Got The Funk? (was: opposition to Israel)
-Caveat Lector- Okay Neuropsychotic to each his own - I do not bother anybody that does not bother me first - for instance the idea is to forever destroy the white race and these blue eyed blonde haired children and oh how jealous some of these people have always been of the blonde chilren. In fact so much so when my brother in law was at Pentagon on Joint Chief of Staff - the plan was to absorbe the colored race amongst the lower classes but as it turns out now with Guess Who's Coming to Dinner we see the ultimate goal still in the plan. I made it quite clear that my kids and my grandchildren will NEVER NEVER NEVER be taught that it is okay to cross a racial line - what you do is your business for I do not care. White America is the target and of this no doubt you are well aware. As King said he did not want to be our brother in law, only brother - to each his own. Are you so ignorant you do not understand what built the white suburbs? It was to get awaya from this black element and why not be honest about it. I do not want them for a neighbor, or brother and heaven forbid - well last night I watched a portion of the Academy Awards, in time to see Sidney Poitier or whatever his name is and oh how brave he was, so walking tall for what he did - he portrayed a black man with a higher class white, about to get married - for yousee this is what it is all about. Long as they stay off my turf I do not care but all this garbage about how much we are missing not joining in with the Gay Pride, the Homosexuals, and Lesbians - the Barney Franks and Janet Renos of the world - so not to associate with people such as this is my right and I do not expect this garbage to be pushed on my family and I am just no longer polite about it - Maybe you use public pools and public baths and even share a hot bath without discretion but from when I come, people now build their own pools for nobody is going to get into an AIDS infested, disease infested swimming pool where the color lines have been eliminated? To each his own.I like GOOD music, and those Irish Tenors one has ears like Tea Cups but he at least has a soul and some talent and they do not need all the crap to enhance their voices. So why don't you move to Georogia now - such a lovely state - a cess pool - Africans running loose and now they desecreate the dead. Most people with whom I associate, or all no doubt, on a workplace if you must work without your own office and fortunately I always had my own private office and bathroom - one must treat all with respect. Fortunantely too I have always most of my life worked for the head honchos..and could be particular with whom I associated. Maybe if you had seen some of the medical reports I have seen on some of these people working for a psychiatrist/psychologists in the past - you would be a little more particular with you you share a bath, a pool, or a john. But again, some put manure on strawberries but I prefer cream on mine. OSaba White Rose Society A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story
Well after watching Rosie on TV tonight I can see why this lound mouthed Joan Rivers took a couple of digs at her. Not sure what she said exactly except when Rosie came out of the closet her alleged paramour left her for she did not know Rosie was a lesbian Tonight Rosie was on FOX with O'Reilly and on verge of tears several time and backtracking on some of the gun stuff for she cried not for the gun remarks but for herself no doubt - after all this powerful woman, many believe, took down K Mart in her fall. So now she fights the gay causesaid it was right after Columbine she made the gun remarks and golly gee she did not mean that. It was in the agony of the moment. Guns but what about those little propane gas tanks those kids had - K Mart also sells those. So a little item about homosexual priests which can be house trained with a little help but only the pedophiles like Michael Jackson, whose nose fell off - these cannot be cured. Such lovely people - so Rosie backed down but now Gay Motherhood is her forte.on the verge of tears and near hysteria O'Reilly was gentle with her as compared to some. Rosie is mad at Hollywood and maybe this is why this Joan Rivers who drags her little clone about with her - went out of her way to make an obscene remark about here the night of the Academy Awards.it is said 1 billion people watched the Academy Awards and I do not believe this to be true for Gallup would be up the next 1000 years on that one. Garbage in, garbage out...oh the humanity. So the Catholic Church no longer will tolerate these degenerate Priests.who will be treated differently than other homosexuals and why not - they have dirtied up the Church so open the floodgates and get them all for they broke a vow.so now in this one black church in particular - well the Church is closing down 4 black churches in Chicago no doubt to assist in the payment of the lawsuits..rob Peter to pay Paul? OSaba March 25, 2002 Whistleblower!: FBI Agent Reveals Clintons' Role in 9-11 Home · Columnists · Late-Night Jokes · Archives · Cartoons News Alerts · U.S. News Links · PriorityGrams · Int'l News Links · MoneyNews Contact Us · NewsMax Store · Classifieds · Get Your Site Listed With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Click Here Click Here Monday, March 25, 2002 2:04 p.m. EST Leo: Sex Scandal Priests Not Pedophiles The sex scandal rocking the Catholic Church has been wrongly characterized as one of pedophilia, says U.S. News World Report columnist John Leo. True pedophiles are rare, he contends, citing statistics that show 5 percent or less of priests accused of molesting children actually fit that description. Most sexual victims of priests are teenage boys, according to one estimate. A study of Chicago's 2,200 priests identified 40 sexual abusers, only one of whom was a pedophile. The distinction may have important legal implications. The church expects to be hit with an avalanche of lawsuits filed by victims who assert officials acted irresponsibly by merely reassigning offending priests to different parishes after psychiatric treatment. But, notes Leo, Abusers of teens are generally treatable. Pedophiles aren't. That argument could let church officials reasonably claim that they believed priest-abusers who had received treatment had been rehabilitated. So why aren't church officials themselves pointing out the distinction? Most likely because opening up the issue of sexually-active gay priests is itself explosive, even apart from charges of abuse, surmises Leo. Still, even if the church manages to weather the legal storm, the scandal's impact is likely to be long and profound, predicts the columnist, adding, Confidence in the integrity and basic honesty of church officials is basically gone. A product that might interest you: Find Out What the Pope Really Believes Printer Friendly Version Inside Cover Stories Freed Louima Cop Charged With Perjury Rosie: Gays Make Better Parents Rukeyser Slams Public TV 'Mafia' Leo: Sex Scandal Priests Not Pedophiles Gray Davis: The Man Californians Love to Dislike Republican Gubernatorial Hopefuls Ahead in Three States Cheney: U.S. Will Halt Saddam's Nuke Bid Congress AWOL at Ridge Briefings 9-11 Anthrax Connection Resurfaces Some Pedophiles Get Pass From Media Virginia Guv Deems Jesus Statue a Threat More Inside Cover Stories Contact Us · Financial News · Late-Night Jokes · Article Archives · Employment Ops. NewsMax.com Privacy Statement All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com ---BeginMessage--- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/3/25/130520 ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] The Jesuit Oath Exposed
-Caveat Lector- Bill had to laugh on this one - it is put out by Ian Paisley - the hated preacher and the one who pushed to get Bernadette Devlin shot - for he said she was demon seed. Remember her? The Church sent her out like a Joan of Arc and when she was shot, thought, she did not leave the Church but rather had children and set aside the revolution and this was in 60 period. In my MS I accused him of peaching hatred from his pulpit but you see that was okay to hate the Irish.think they will ever take away their guns? Anyway this oath of the Jesuits do not believe this to be true for the Jesuits were to go out as teachers and no doubt spies...G Gordon Liddy was Jesuit or had Jesuit training and maybe went out on his own like all those Masons who leave to do good work - in both secret orders they get a bit of the truth as to what is going on, and then make your own choiice I presume. Robert Blair Kaiser was a Jesuit - he wrote RFK musat die.he was way ahead on this programming of killers for yousee today this country is full of programmed killers of which Sirhan and Oswald and Hinckley and Chapman, etc etc etc can be included and toss in the doomsdayers for there they are turned loose upon us. Rituals of the catholic church are all in the bible essentially - the bible to me is a book of knowledge but this is one of my favorite chapters and the word schism in in this chapter, and this word is only once in the biblethen came Martin Luther .and after than everything did not come up roses. I think this Ian Paisley has been cloned for that guy must be 100 years old by now for he was old then...and note the fighting was in Londonairy - in Armagh County Ireland - note two big Armageddons one in Holy Land and one in England and now maybae three going because now that USA has identified with Israel we, are the Scape Goats. Nice people.so first come the teachers..like over there in Afghaistan they have a problem now - all those books the USA put how with its hate filled propaganda .what is that old line, suffer little children? OSaba All through New Testament you find he rites of exorcism, and the little pope who was put to sleep, was reading Imitation of Christ when he died - whom I called the Little Yellow Bird, with wings of silver and gold like Psalm 68. So as they say, Psalm 68 I think - The Lord Gave the Word, and Great Was the Company that Published it..always wanted that for a motto and used it once on a news letter I had years and years ago...company of one. Anyway the body of Christ - consists of many members and no all are perfect if you note by the news of the queers invading the Church as a safe haven and refuge. No longer Mr. Nice Guy the Church will not give them the boot rather than attemt to reform thembroken vows not fit to be a priest..or among children. 1 Corinthians, chapter 12 1: Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2: Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3: Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 4: Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5: And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6: And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7: But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8: For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9: To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10: To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 12: For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13: For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14: For the body is not one member, but many. 15: If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16: And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17: If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18: But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19: And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20: But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21: And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of
[CTRL] Fwd: Spy Vs. Spy
What big bu$ine$$ this anti semitism business is..you have Morris Dees of this Southern Poverty Stricken League, and this ADL headed up by Abraham Foxman, and their line of attack is against White Christian Americans and Militia. To date the ADl, this American Federation of Scientists which is not an official group but more like a well federation, like the Lazaras store perhaps, or Macys - but theyhave a common goal and this is to disarm white America.. Here is a lovely item written by one jew to another jew...such lovely people. What the hell are these people doing in this country. This Jonathan Pollard should have been executed - this Hannsen should have been executed, and this John O'Neill who took the job with Larry Silverstein was he a fall guy or are they all a bunch of cheap hoodlums and spies for this Israeli element. Interesting story - The ADL is nothing but a front for organized crime - the Bnai Brith, is a psuedo masonic order and they each bless the other - tell me why is it okay for Bnai Brith to be Masonic but not nother masonic orders? Martin Luther King okay for him and Jomo Kenyatta and his Mau Mau to be masonic, but not true blue Americans?Want to see American blown to hell and back - or do we want America to do the right thing for a change. Stop funding for slaughter of arab children. Maybe time for descendents of those of the USS Liberty or those murdered in the Twin Towers to file a few lawsuits - but you see in order to collect some of the oney they got - they had to sign waivers to any lawsuits - really. SABA REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY Spy Vs. Spy April 16, 1993 - Si Frumkin Here are a few a appropriate quotes, proverbs and clichés: People In Glass Houses Shouldn't Throw Stones (or the modern version ...Shouldn't Walk Around Naked - both apply in this case); Pride Goes Before the Fall; What Goes Around Comes Around; Lo! How The Mighty Have Fallen; Though the Mills of God Grind Slowly, Yet They Grind Exceedingly Small; and there are many others, but you get the idea, right? What am I talking about? Why the ADL, of course, the Anti Defamation League of B'nai Brith, hee-hee and chuckle-chuckle. I am talking about spying, the heinous, despicable crime that the ADL couldn't forgive Jonathan Pollard for, and for which they denounced Jonathan again and again and again. His sentence was not motivated by antisemitism, they said. He is a criminal and must be punished - no matter what his motives may have been. He broke the law and the Jewish community shouldn't get involved in asking for reviews, clemency, pardon, or anything else. None of us are above the law, they said, and, voila, just look what happened to the sanctimonious ADL, the holier-than-thou, and certainly holier than Jonathan Pollard, Anti-Defamation League: a national scandal, front pages of major newspapers, dozens of lawsuits, all because it stands accused of, guess what, yes, yes, spying! And so, hee-hee, and chuckle-chuckle, and maybe even tsk-tsk, at how the mighty have fallen. We mustn't forget that the ADL was one of only two remaining major Jewish organizations that opposed any efforts on Pollard's behalf. Never mind that B'nai Brith members all over the country voted overwhelmingly for helping Pollard, that officers of the B'nai Brith openly spoke and lobbied on Pollard's behalf; never mind all those messages from the grass roots, from the members who ostensibly control the ADL, Foxman, ADL's czar, knew better than all that rabble, he wouldn't have anyone tell him how to run his little kingdom, and so, the ADL wouldn't be budged towards compassion and understanding. How strangely appropriate that it is now the ADL that needs compassion and understanding! By the way, the other organization that refused to have anything to do with helping Jonathan Pollard is the America Jewish Congress. There is little point in discussing the AJ congress; after all, when you consider that this is a Jewish organization that sued not to have a Chanukah menorah in a park in Beverly Hills, there is very little left to be said. I have no sympathy with most of the people the ADL spied on - former Congressman Pete McCloskey is far from being one of my favorite people, neither are the various nazis, klansman, Arab activists or other such slime. I wonder, however, what they did with all the files that accumulated over the last 20 years or so, during which they had inveigled a former president of the L.A. Jewish Federation Council to launder ADL's money to pay an informant whom they didn't want to be shown on ADL's roster of employees. There have been quite a few instances of antisemitic vandalism throughout the country each year and while the incidents are catalogued, evaluated and distributed as lists and percentages by the ADL, I do not believe that the organization has done anything to prevent them from taking place. Let me put it another way: if your synagogue - or your home - was the target
[CTRL] Fwd: S. Africa report blasts AIDS science
S. Africa report blasts AIDS science Ruling party document questions established theories AIDS sufferer Nomathemba, who has no access to AIDS medication, plays inside a plastic jungle gym at the Sparrows Rainsbow Village, a village for the terminally ill, in Roodepoort, South Africa, on Sunday. It calls on South Africans not to be bribed or intimidated by drug companies who mistakenly believe the nation's people can be bought and terrorized. It also condemned accepted truths about the disease as simple extensions of the racist stereotype of Africans as immoral, diseased and sexually depraved animals. SABA NOTE: Tell me are they still slaughtering White Farmers in South Africa - let them come to Georgia Crematorium and see what fine upstanding citizens we have down there - why one made Chairman of Democrat Party..understand might be in the Used Body Part business - bit Tri State Level connections. ASSOCIATED PRESS JOHANNESBURG, South Africa, March 22 The ruling African National Congress has given its top officials a document that questions the existence of AIDS, condemns AIDS drugs as poisonous and describes Western attitudes to the pandemic in Africa as blatant racism. Take our interactive quizzes Sign up for our free health e-newsletter THE DOCUMENT, obtained Friday by The Associated Press, was a collective effort by several high-ranking ANC officials and was distributed by the party to members of its National Executive Council at a meeting last weekend to discuss the government's AIDS policy, according to Peter Mokaba, an ANC parliamentarian and member of the council. Mokaba defended the document as information sharing in the ANC. It brings together all the elements, so to speak, of this debate, he said. Science says all of those things that are quoted in there. CONFUSING MESSAGE Dr. Saadiq Kariem, the party's second-ranking official on health policy, called the document ludicrous and worried it could confuse South Africans about how to prevent the spread of HIV. South Africa, with an estimated 4.7 million people infected with HIV, has come under a hail of international criticism for its perceived lackadaisical efforts to fight the pandemic. It has resisted starting a widespread program to give the AIDS drug nevirapine to infected pregnant mothers to prevent the spread of HIV to their babies during labor. Advertisement It has ruled out providing anti-retroviral AIDS medicine through the public health system, emphasizing the side effects of the medicine. President Thabo Mbeki also has sought the counsel of dissident AIDS theorists, whose widely condemned ideas about the disease are presented prominently in the ANC document. Mbeki's spokesman Bheki Khumalo did not return a call seeking comment. The document questioned the scientific story that is told about the HIV/AIDS pandemic. The 114-page thesis intersperses quotes from news stories, dissident theorists and mainstream scientists with conclusions from the authors. The document, which repeatedly condemns the omnipotent apparatus that enforces mainstream belief of AIDS, claims no one has ever isolated the AIDS virus, HIV tests are absolutely ineffective and AIDS drugs are poisonous. Africans are the latest victim of scare mongering about AIDS, the document says. REPORT CONDEMNS DRUG MAKERS It calls on South Africans not to be bribed or intimidated by drug companies who mistakenly believe the nation's people can be bought and terrorized. It also condemned accepted truths about the disease as simple extensions of the racist stereotype of Africans as immoral, diseased and sexually depraved animals. The real problem in Africa is poverty, the document says. The West was using AIDS to ignore its costly responsibility to help the continent's development. Instead, the West was offering far cheaper condoms and drugs. In addition to the ANC leadership, the document was also given to leaders of the South African Communist Party and the Congress of South African Trade Unions, the ANC's partners in the government, Mokaba said. AIDS drug pulled from U.S. review Kariem, the ANC's health secretary, said the paper's questions about the link between HIV and AIDS and the virus' transmission through heterosexual sex fly in the face of reams of scientific studies. I can't imagine anything more farfetched than that, he said. He worried how doctors across the country would be able to convince hesitant patients to wear condoms during sex in light of the document's claims and he questioned why his party distributed it. It's irresponsible for senior leaders of the ANC to be putting out documents of this nature. It sends out a confused message, he said. In the end of the day the ANC will be the laughingstock of the world. The document also
Re: [CTRL] Whose Got The Funk? (was: opposition to Israel)
-Caveat Lector- I imagaine June and Neuropsychotic absolutely fall apart when Fats Domino sings I got a whole lot of lovin..such a romantic figure however does not appeal to me - not my cup of tea. Different strokes for different folk and there is no accounting for individual taste. Prefer the Irish Tenors . OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Amazon.com: buying info: The Secret War Against the Jews : How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People
in bombing two U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998. Federal agents also are looking into whether any of the SAAR-Safa entities committed crimes, including money laundering or income tax improprieties or possibly illegally offering support to overseas terrorist groups law enforcement sources said. Huge sums of money zip among these firms and foundations, and some of the transactions can be traced on tax forms filed with the Internal Revenue Service. For example, in 2000, a charity called the York Foundation whose president is Mirza and which is based in the same building on Grove Street in Herndon as SAAR and Safa Trust received $400,000 from Safa, tax forms showed. The same year, York dispatched $400,000 to a related entity called the York International Trust on the Isle of Man, where tax records are kept private. SENT TWO SUMS In the two years before SAAR went defunct in December 2000, it sent two sums to an entity on the Isle of Man, the Humana Charitable Trust one for $168,000 and another for $9 million. Much of SAAR's work has been continued by its affiliate, Safa. U.S. officials suspect that the ultimate recipients of the funds were linked to terrorists, but they are not sure. And the officials acknowledge that the participants could have engaged in subterfuge to avoid paying taxes. Government officials said that even if no crimes are proven, it might serve the counterterrorist cause to simply disrupt the flow of money. Other federal officials said the probe is part of a much wider effort tracking funds flowing through Saudi charities and firms that end up being used by groups deemed by the United States to be terrorist, such as al Qaeda and Hamas. The U.S. government has seized the assets of several leading Saudi charities and asked Saudi authorities to keep tabs on others. While the latest probe of these entities began years ago, U.S. officials say it heated up after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But sources said they had to plan their raids in a hurry starting two weeks ago because of a telephone call from a lawyer in Florida. John Loftus, a former Nazi hunter for the Justice Department and more recently a lawyer for U.S. intelligence agency whistleblowers, contacted government officials March 11, saying he was about to file a lawsuit in Florida against Al-Arian that would lay out the ties among him, the International Institute, various of its affiliates and Saudi interests. Customs and Treasury officials hustled to prepare their raids for March 20, the day that Loftus filed his lawsuit claiming various frauds by Al-Arian, Loftus and government officials said. There was no coincidence, Loftus said. Saba Note: Oh what would we do without these self appointed experts...and the filing of many lawsuits. Do you know how many CIA operatives then called OSS died for these bastards in WWII and how many Americans died and all the kids are permitted to learn is that 6 million jews died but hey they forgot the homosexuals and the gypsies in with this bunch and the 55 million who died total, and not once reference to the American Soldiers who died, whose children were without fathers and mothers left on their own and NOT ONE NATIONAL MONUMENT FOR WW VETERANS for you see these god damned bastards decided one size fits all when it came to one day for all the dead in all the wars.and do you realize this element is engaged in massive lawsuits to destroy America - this rotten corrupt element that JFK and RFK tried to week out and were murdered by them..vicious vendetta and the ultimate goal with the Rosicrucian Society is to DESTROY the Catholic Churchand here it is. Today if Afghanistan now these queers are again permitted to train and school little kids for male homosexual prostitution and run the streets - and the woman without the veils right after the war as they called it were prostitutes? That this is a design to destroy anything decent in this country until we are reduced to the state of a Sodom and Gomorrah? So read a bit here but read between the lines and see who this man is - he is an ADL Stooge, a front man - and like this Rosenberg who is out to disarm America, this pig is at the trough. Are aware that already homosexuals are out in the streets in Afghanistan wilovers parading around our soldiers have died for gypsies, jews, and homosexuals Now Afghanistan is free to slaughter more US Soldiers and we are paying them to so do...and whores and homosexuals may freely abuse the male children in the streetsd to be little Barney Franks, while terrorists are being trained by Israelis in Florida to take on American Citizens.in deadly combat - so Remembaer the USS Liberty and our men who were murdered and napalmed by Israelis for 45 minutes as they lie dying and wounded on deck. Saba John Loftus at 70 : work from the fifties to the present by John Loftus A View from the Bridge
[CTRL] Fwd: WABC Special - Interview With Esther Pollard
Because of Jonathan Pollard nearly 1 million Iraqi children have died - and note here is John Loftus, who is not the man with the secrets but the man who betrays the secrets of his country - this man is for hire, he wears a mask - no for whom does he work - this is a propagandist tool for the Zionist Cause - who has filed a lawsuit to promote his books. He came pretty cheap at that - strange he would push in on the Pollard Case yet ignore Marc Rich, the ADL association with Meyer Lansky and this murder inc., the man who ordered the Kennedy hits for taking on this Jewish Mafia - oh pardon me, cannot call them Jewish can we - let us call them this Pig Mafia - who deal in drugs, slaughter, prostitution, pornography, and this gun for hire - toss in demolition of America which is also under contract at this point in time. And keep in mind that in 1974 the Mafia bought out 5 major publishing houses in America.. Saba WABC Special - Interview With Esther Pollard Justice4JP Release - July 27, 2001 Originally aired on WABC Radio 77 NYC - June 23, 2001 The John Batchelor and Paul Alexander Show PART I Click here to go straight to Part II. John Batchelor and Paul Alexander, later joined by Rabbi Joe Potasnik, begin their 4 hour Pollard Special by introducing listeners to the facts of the case. They then interview Jonathan Pollard's wife, Esther. John: Mrs. Pollard, Good evening. I want to introduce you to our audience: this is Mrs. Jonathan - Esther - Pollard - and I'm John. Paul: and I'm Paul. John: I began with a reading of the facts of Jonathan Pollard's case from 1983 and 1984. And I want to ask if you want to expand or correct any of the information I read at the top of the show. Esther: First of all, I was listening and you did a wonderful job. There are indeed a couple of comments I would like to make. John: Just one moment. The rabbi is with us now. Rabbi Joe are you there? Rabbi Potasnik: Yes I am, and I want to thank you because there have been so many wrongs committed against Jonathan Pollard. Only when we have a coalition of Jews and Christians standing together is there some hope for justice, finally, for this man who has been in prison too long... And I say thank you to both of you for expressing this desire in trying to bring this case to the attention of all the people who don't have all the facts. John: Yes - we've got some serious work tonight. Excuse me, Mrs. Pollard - Esther - I wanted to make sure Joe was there for us. Boy, is this a coalition! Esther: I'd like also to join with Rabbi Joe in thanking the two of you, John and Paul, for what we call your mesiras nefesh - the dedication and devotion that's required to get the truth out there. Your opening comments tonight were indeed right - there has been a conspiracy of silence on this case. There has been a conspiracy of silence to bury the truth. John, you asked for my comments on your introduction to the case. Can I come in sideways and ask if you have ever heard of a fellow named Albert Sombolay? John Paul: No. Esther: And it's a really curious thing that most people have never heard of Albert Sombolay - His case immediately came to mind when you mentioned earlier that U.S. forces are on full alert tonight because of the Iraqi threat. Let me tell you about Albert Sombolay. He's the epitome of a traitor. He was a U.S. soldier who spied for Iraq during the Gulf War. John: Oh, yes, yes. You're right! You just kicked a cobweb. Go ahead, please. Esther: This guy gave Iraq samples of the American chemical warfare equipment that was worn by American soldiers during Desert Storm. He gave them the protective suits, the boots, the gloves - all the protective gear that was worn by American soldiers. Which meant that all Iraq had to do was manufacture a chemical agent that could penetrate this gear. Iraq wasn't competent enough to get it done during Desert Storm; but you can bet that they've got it done by now. Albert Sombolay, by definition, committed treason. According to American law, the definition of treason is spying for an enemy in time of war. Now, remember that Jonathan Pollard did not commit treason: he spied for an ally, and it wasn't a time of war. Jonathan Pollard got life. What do you think Albert Sombolay got for handing over to Iraq all this information about U.S. troop deployments and equipment during the Gulf War? John: Go ahead. This is an incredible series of events that have led to all these men being let out of jail. It's incredible. Esther: Sombolay got 34 years; then his sentence was reduced to 19 years with further appeals pending. Then the case drops off of the radar screen as the U.S. government began to hide the information, making it impossible to find out about further reductions that were made to Sombolay's sentence. In all likelihood, Sombolay is free today, but it's very hard to confirm that. John: But I've read through the list of Cold War spies and men from the Cold War era who are walking around free today
[CTRL] Fwd: U-WIRE.com/Man sues U. South Florida prof over claims of conspiracy with Saudi Arabia
Note a lawsuit in Oklahoma was filed against Iraq and you can imagine what inspired this..this is big bu$ine$$ for this Lomas is out to steal the Arab gold and consider the Twin Towers and the Saudi gold at the bottom and then ask again cui bono? Larry Silverstein a man who was bankrupt in 1991 - 7 billion dollars. Jewish Mafia murdered John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedywhy are they protected in this country and Meyer Lansky's son goes to West Point? You see Gore and Lieberman were to have won this last election - for all things were ready for a Zonist TakeoverGore married into the Schiff family throuh his daughter and professing to be a born again Christian - but now take a good look at New York City - and see cui bono? Well Larry Flynt prospers and this ADl prospers - Marc Rich prospered and this cororupt evil element has America by its throatsee Israel this hell hole and see America for now America is as hated as Israel around the world .and then ask who really is behind this EU? Now how many Americans died in WWII or was it just 6 million jews - the denial of the 55 million others who died but all these Holocaust Landmarks over this country without one National Memorial to WWII men who died for jews, gypsies, and homosexuals - and now the Afghanistan war - the homosexuals and their child lovers alread in the streets with painted prosatitutes. REMEMBER THE LAVON AFFAIR AND THE USS LIBERTY.. OSaba Man sues U. South Florida prof over claims of conspiracy with Saudi Arabia By Ryan Meehan The Oracle (U. South Florida) 03/21/2002 TODAY'S HEADLINES (U-WIRE) TAMPA, Fla. -- The pending situation involving controversial University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian compounded Wednesday when a former federal prosecutor filed a civil suit against him in state court. John Loftus, president for St. Petersburg's Holocaust Museum and well-known author on terrorism and intelligence, is claiming Al-Arian conspired against the United States with the Saudi Arabian government. He also alleges Al-Arian used the guise of a charitable organization to funnel money into Saudi terrorist groups. Al-Arian said Wednesday the allegations are nonsense. (Loftus) needs to be put in an insane asylum, Al-Arian said. He characterized Loftus' claim as rehashed allegations that already have been disproved. According to a St. Petersburg Times report, Loftus said in the suit, which was filed in state court Wednesday, the U.S. Department of Justice has had enough evidence to charge Al-Arian, but making public Al-Arian's money-laundering network would embarrass the Saudis, who are American allies. Loftus also was quoted in other news sources as saying an unnamed government official has taped conversations that prove Al-Arian's guilt. The suit compounds Al-Arian's problems as he awaits the decision of USF President Judy Genshaft, who sent him a letter of intent to terminate late last year. Al-Arian, a Palestinian who has lived in the United States for nearly 30 years, came under fire eight years ago when allegations a USF-based Middle Eastern think tank, which he founded, served as a front for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The FBI four years ago investigated the claim but never found sufficient evidence to charge the professor with a crime. In October 2000 Federal Judge R. Kevin McHugh said though Al-Arian's think tank, World and Islam Studies Enterprise, was accused of serving as a front for PIJ and Hamas, there was no evidence that proved that allegation. Instead he characterized WISE as a reputable and scholarly research center. USF's faculty union President Roy Weatherford announced the pending suit at Wednesday's Faculty Senate meeting. After the meeting, Weatherford said the suit will not change the union's decision to support Al-Arian if he is fired by Genshaft. He said people sometimes mistake the union's support for Al-Arian, making the assumption its support stretches farther than academic freedom. This is an entirely personal, private issue, Weatherford said. We're not his personal support group or his political cheerleaders. Weatherford said even if Al-Arian loses the civil court battle, Genshaft still does not have justification for firing him. A three-member panel from the American Association of University Professors visited USF last week and met with both Al-Arian and Genshaft. The group will gather information on campus and write a report on its findings. If the panel determines Genshaft has violated academic freedom, USF could be censured, or blacklisted, by June 2003. Because the visit took place during USF's spring break, Chairman for the panel William Vanalstyne will be at the Embassy Suites for two hours this morning to meet with professors and representatives from the student government. Any content distributed via U-WIRE is protected by copyright. U-WIRE is a division of Student Advantage, Inc. ---BeginMessage---
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-Caveat Lector- So Neuropsychotic - the throne upon which Saturn date could this be Satan Satand this 7th Gate is this September using another calendar? 7th - March to some is beginning of year - right? But is this 7th gate opening to September - the three gates masonic meaning? Further this guy who was mastermind who caused Danny Pearl to be murdered had taken the code name Rubaiyanote Rubaiyat. It is said Edward Fitzgerald haunts Merton Rectory andI always thought it was because of his translation of the Rubaiya. Strange poem - Marily Monroe received a copy of it once from her friend and a copy was on the Titanic - a Jewelled Copy..Fitzgerald was a Purcell who took Grandfather's name to use Coat of Arms.this all means something but what do you think it meant to the assassins of Danny Pearl? And the assassins who the night before they demolished the Twin Towers drank and laughed and made Mary - and of course drugs, hypnotic drugs as used by the Assassins. I think Van Atta is alive..these are hired killers, thieves, murdereres, robbers, butchersthey do not kill for nothing. These are all hired assassins but the suicide doomsdayers are for real. Tell me where Satan Sat - is USA the Great Satan? XXXI Up from Earth's Centre through the Seventh Gate rose, and on the Throne of Saturn sate; And many a Knot unravel'd by the Road; But not the Master-knot of Human Fate. XXXII There was the Door to which I found no Key; There was the Veil through which I might not see: Some little talk awhile of Me and Thee There was--and then no more of Thee and Me. Strange - 7th Gate - how many gates does the White House Have, flood gates at White House? Shades of Ezekial flying saucers and all. OSaba The Rubaiyat By Omar Khayyam Written 1120 A.C.E. I Wake! For the Sun, who scatter'd into flight The Stars before him from the Field of Night, Drives Night along with them from Heav'n, and strikes The Sultan's Turret with a Shaft of Light. II Before the phantom of False morning died, Methought a Voice within the Tavern cried, When all the Temple is prepared within, Why nods the drowsy Worshipper outside? III And, as the Cock crew, those who stood before The Tavern shouted--Open then the Door! You know how little while we have to stay, And, once departed, may return no more. IV Now the New Year reviving old Desires, The thoughtful Soul to Solitude retires, Where the White Hand Of Moses on the Bough Puts out, and Jesus from the Ground suspires. V Iram indeed is gone with all his Rose, And Jamshyd's Sev'n-ring'd Cup where no one knows; But still a Ruby kindles in the Vine, And many a Garden by the Water blows, VI And David's lips are lockt; but in divine High-piping Pehlevi, with Wine! Wine! Wine! Red Wine!--the Nightingale cries to the Rose That sallow cheek of hers t' incarnadine. VII Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling: The Bird of Time bas but a little way To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing. VIII Whether at Naishapur or Babylon, Whether the Cup with sweet or bitter run, The Wine of Life keeps oozing drop by drop, The Leaves of Life keep falling one by one. IX Each Morn a thousand Roses brings, you say; Yes, but where leaves the Rose of Yesterday? And this first Summer month that brings the Rose Shall take Jamshyd and Kaikobad away. X Well, let it take them! What have we to do With Kaikobad the Great, or Kaikhosru? Let Zal and Rustum bluster as they will, Or Hatim call to Supper--heed not you XI With me along the strip of Herbage strown That just divides the desert from the sown, Where name of Slave and Sultan is forgot-- And Peace to Mahmud on his golden Throne! XII A Book of Verses underneath the Bough, A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread--and Thou Beside me singing in the Wilderness-- Oh, Wilderness were Paradise enow! XIII Some for the Glories of This World; and some Sigh for the Prophet's Paradise to come; Ah, take the Cash, and let the Credit go, Nor heed the rumble of a distant Drum! XIV Look to the blowing Rose about us--Lo, Laughing, she says, into the world I blow, At once the silken tassel of my Purse Tear, and its Treasure on the Garden throw. XV And those who husbanded the Golden grain, And those who flung it to the winds like Rain, Alike to no such aureate Earth are turn'd As, buried once, Men want dug up again. XVI The Worldly Hope men set their Hearts upon Turns Ashes--or it prospers; and anon, Like Snow upon the Desert's dusty Face, Lighting a little hour or two--is gone. XVII Think, in this batter'd Caravanserai Whose Portals are alternate Night and Day, How Sultan after Sultan with his Pomp Abode his destined Hour, and went his way. XVIII They say the Lion and the Lizard keep The Courts where Jamshyd gloried and drank deep: And Bahram, that great Hunter--the Wild Ass Stamps o'er his Head, but cannot break his Sleep. XIX I sometimes think that never blows so red The Rose as where some buried Caesar bled; That every
[CTRL] Fwd: Kansas City Star | 03/21/2002 | Principal, teacher removed from Pitcher Elementary while district investigates alleged strip search
Well people are finally waking up to the fact that their children are being abused in the schools by sick twisted pervertshope they all enjoyed the Show and Tell day for these kids went right home and told their parents. Imagine these teachers and this sick twister Principal had a field day searching little bodies - for you see this is how it begins. Remember once when in elementary school my mother found out in the little girls rooms, there were no doors on the johns..and teachers would walk in and look around - little 2 and 3 graders..and two bull mooses seemed to be in charge. So my mother who was also a school teacher but not in school employ at the time, began to wonder about these people. So being a good researcher and not wanting to embarrass anybody, she attended a school board meeting and had the owner of the local newspaper with her..she questioned why inasmuch the taxpayers had paid for these doors on the johns for the little kiddies restrooms, why they had not been installed? Well within a week an embarrassed school board had the doors installed and no more peep shows. I still remember those two women and both were built like Janet Reno..some of these bull moose have a style unto themselves. Well today a few people might have beenup on charges over matters like this, but my mother was just to Victorian and polite to get at the root of the problem - these two old bats were lesbians and some of the people involved in the school were enjoying what in their minds might be child pornogrpahy. Today note how we now see people seated on a toilet over and over and over again until we get accustomed to such crude programming? But see it always starts with the kiddies, doesn't it..now had it been me, I would have gone to the school that day and said get these god damned bull moose out of our schools and put the doors on the johns.a matter of privacy. Ah but you see it has all become Show and Tell Day - but hey, next comes the Show and Not Tell Day? By the waya that negro family in Georgia had their show and tell days with dead bodies, but what about the little 11 year old girl Carol Bechtol whose mother took cement ashes for burial at the Dolphin Park. But we are told not to worry, this former TEACHER, and former CHAIRMAN OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTy that someone had given this computer to her son and those dead bodies were not any of the bodies they had.if so whose bodies where they pray tell - So another oh so respected school teacher with her famly of ghouls praying on bodies, 99 percent of which were white. Lets have big Show and Tell Days in the Schools - get those lesbian nurses and homosexual teachers for it is SHOW TIME. Now remember the little kiddies are being condiioned and for what? Potential targets for what? Smile - you are on camera and do not know it? Saba Click here to visit other RealCities sites Help Contact Us Site Index Archives Place an Ad Newspaper Subscriptions Metropolitan CityBlue SpringsBlue Valley LeawoodIndependenceLee's SummitLibertyNorthlandOlathePlatte CountyShawnee LenexaShawnee MissionSouthlandWyandotte LeavenworthPolitics/ElectionsBusiness CareersMoneywiseSTAR 50TechnologySports High SchoolsOpinion Forum FYI FoodTeenStarFaithHome GardenLookArts BooksPreview Travel Columnists Obituaries Steer into the racing season with the Auto Sports 2002 Special Section Play March ManiaPick your teams before any round in the tournament, and you could win some great prizes. Register now Check out these Special OffersView online specials from local stores Online Specials Back to Home Kansas City Star Friday, Mar 22, 2002 Select a day: M | T | W | Th | F | S | Su Posted on Thu, Mar. 21, 2002 Principal, teacher removed from Pitcher Elementary while district investigates alleged strip search By JOE ROBERTSON and DEANN SMITH The Kansas City Star The principal and a teacher have been removed from Pitcher Elementary School while the Kansas City School District investigates allegations that third-graders were subjected to an improper search, district spokesman Edwin Birch said today. The principal is Jana Schwimmer. The teacher was not identified. Parents and students at Pitcher met this morning with a state investigator and school district attorneys to discuss the alleged strip search over $5 of missing money. The district has to investigate these allegations, Birch said. We wanted to reassure them (the parents and students) that we want to do the right thing. The state also must investigate, he said, which is why an investigator with the Missouri Division of Family Services joined the meeting. Parents have complained that children told them earlier this week that boys had to drop their pants to be searched by an adult male, while girls were searched by other girls. District policy does not allow strip searches and specifies that any other search cannot be done in front of other students
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Kansas City Star | 03/21/2002 | Principal,teacher removed from Pitcher Elementary while districtinvestigates alleged strip search
-Caveat Lector- June go back to your level and ho huread one line of this and your usual slop - nothing original, nothing witty, in fact nothing - just your usual line of crap and frankly June you must leave a trail of crap wherever you go. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Mauling trial jurors explain verdicts
Well I imagine before this is over, the woman and man who owned the dogs, who are jewish, will be screaming anti semitism and if they appeal, the mate of the lesbian killed by the dogs will be charging discrimination.. As for the dogs, the the dogs usually take on the attributes, of theiri masters and here we had dogs that did not like, lesbians. In fact this woman who at one time it was alleged detested the homosexual lifestyle of the victim when the dog had previously made an advance to this woman, its owner said it was because of the perfume she was wearing - a type of perfume this Miglin (whose husband was murdered along with this Versace in homosexual lovers nest) sells and hawks as a big drawer and full of sex appeal. It is know that Alsteir Crowley wore musk, for horses like musk and tahey would walk over to him as if he had some magical control over him. Now these dogs - were they affected by this woman's perfume? Frankly between the lot of them, I would prefer the dogs had not been executed - but then too there are people who love to execute dogs to earn their - god what a lifestyle. Regardless, too bad about the dogs.the others, well dogs do not attack for no reason do they? Forget the name of that perfume - starts with a PHE - something they put into it, but could it have driven this dog to madness? Now the drive will be on to kill more dogs because of a couple of dogs that went bad...but then what caused the final attack, did this woman order them to kill? Saba Maul Mauling trial jurors explain verdicts Marjorie Knoller, left, reacts as the guilty verdict on the count of second-degree murder in read Thursday. At right is her attorney, Nedra Ruiz. March 22 -- Don Newton, jury foreman in the dog-mauling trial, tells reporter Sara James on NBC's Today show why the jury found the defendants guilty. MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS LOS ANGELES, March 21 Jurors who found Marjorie Knoller guilty of murder in the dog-mauling death of a neighbor said they were surprised that Knoller took the witness stand at all. From our point of view, her testimony was not believable, said Don Newton, 64, foreman of the seven-man, five-woman panel that convicted Knoller and her husband Thursday in the death of Diane Whipple, 33. Should a pet's owner go to jail for the pet's misbehavior? Yes; the owner is solely responsible for making sure the animal is not dangerous No; the owner cannot know how the animal will react in all circumstances Vote to see results THE JURORS SAID the San Francisco couple, whose two huge dogs attacked Whipple last year, was arrogant and repeatedly ignored warnings about their dogs. We decided there was not simply one action, Newton said. It was a series of actions and failures to heed warnings. The jury said the second-degree murder charge against Knoller was the last count decided. It was a painful decision, Newton said. The question of implied malice was a difficult question to decide, but we did decide there was implied malice in her actions. Knoller, who was walking the dogs when the attack occurred, faces 15 years to life for the murder conviction. She and her husband, Robert Noel, also were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and of having a mischievous dog that killed someone. He faces a maximum of four years in prison when he and his wife are sentenced on May 10 in San Francisco. HUSBAND SEEN AS RESPONSIBLE While Noel wasn't present during the fatal mauling, Newton said the jurors found that he was probably as responsible as his wife was for the events. Robert Noel didn't seem to be a very nice person, he said. Advertisement Whipple was fatally mauled Jan. 26, 2001, outside her apartment by at least one of Noel and Knoller's two huge Presa Canario dogs. Jeanne Sluiman, 52, said Knoller's testimony about the attack had so many inconsistencies that the jurors had to go beyond it to other facts to reach their decisions. That was echoed by juror Shawn Antonio, 27, who said Knoller's stories were so fabricated, it was difficult. She'd come up with 10 scenarios of what happened and the only other witness is no longer with us. Antonio said that the jurors repeatedly reviewed a tape of a TV interview in which Knoller disavowed responsibility for Whipple's death. 'NO KIND OF SYMPATHY' There was no kind of sympathy, no kind of apologies, he said. It helped us a lot. The jurors said they thought that if the defendants cared, they would have heeded the warnings of a veterinarian who wrote to the couple early on about the danger the dogs posed. If someone wasn't arrogant they would have had to heed that warning, Sluiman said. Unlike Knoller, Noel didn't testify at trial. During deliberations, the jury asked to hear a reading of his testimony to the grand jury that indicted the couple. Couple charged
[CTRL] Fwd: Investigative Report: Cloud of Corruption Around Democrats Union Patron
This is the Union Jerry Wurf once headed - beating Arnold Zander whom I had the pleasure to meet. Wurf then joined the CFR and had no doubt always been part of it, fo rmy old boss told me he had fought him before in New York, and the guy was a communist. He had expensive tastes, however but he sure knew how to turn the blacks in the sanitation departments into line - for Martin Luther King, did not die for Civil Rights - he was invited to his death to walk in a march for Dues Check Off, for AFSCME-AFL CIO by Jerry Wurf.CFR. this is what Jimmy Hoffa meant by Sweetheart Unions.where labor and political parties get into bed together while they rip off the workers. You see there is such a thing as Civil Serivce and this stupid lot in our area didn't know that the Ohio Constitution set up the Civil Service and the State Legislature in their labor act said this Union Contract supersedes all laws, blah blah blah. But too late - for the Union got all the affirmative action people in without testing, and as a result have to hire contract workers who are loathed by union people, to do their work for them. So much for AFSCME-AFL-CIO, once headed by Jerry Wurf, of the Council on Foreign Relations, known comunist who left a few body bags in the area. (Joe Gilfhalen and his wife and one son - but one got away - only in this case no proof who did what, only threats were given to Joe and the usual line hey got kids, got familyhe one son still lives today and does well)) OSaba March 22, 2002 Main Page Center Commentary Subscribe From the Editor Feedback Join the Center 527s/Issue Ad Watch Subscribe Enter your e-mail address and click 'Go' to subscribe to The Public i and receive brief overview of each issue. It's FREE! Search Advanced Search Issue Ad Watch 2000 The Center will be reporting on groups conducting issue ad campaigns throughout the election cycle to increase media and voter knowledge of these oftentimes shadowy groups and their interests Investigative Report Cloud of Corruption Around Democrats' Union Patron AFSCME and Its President, Gerald McEntee*, Have Given Party More Than $3.6 million As the Democratic National Convention gets under way in Los Angeles, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees is once again leading the way in soft money donations to the Democratic Party, pouring in just less than $2 million to the party over the 2000 election cycle, according to numbers compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. AFSCME's unparalleled support of the party (it is the largest soft money donor this cycle to the Democratic National Committee and related committees) continues the Democrats' tradition of keeping close ties to the labor movement. But while the news media focus on the union's financial generosity, little attention has been given to AFSCME's checkered history. By Charles Lewis and the Center for Public Integrity (Washington, August 9) By 1996, there had been much mutual back-scratching between the Teamsters, the White House, and the Democratic Party. And so a deal was struck, a complicated scheme that happens to have been illegal: RELATED LINKS - AFSCME Printer-friendly versionThe Teamsters would continue to pour unprecedented sums into the Clinton-Gore campaign and Democratic Party committees, and in exchange, the Democrats would help to finance Teamster President Ron Carey's own re-election campaign. They couldn't do that directly, of course, so the money was laundered through a liberal public-interest organization, Citizen Action, and through other groups, including the National Council of Senior Citizens and Project Vote. Federal law prohibits employers from contributing to any union election. More than $4 million in Democratic National Committee money moved to Citizen Action and other groups, and at least $885,000 in union funds was illegally diverted into Carey's re-election campaign. Today, the carnage from this scandal casts a pall over the entire labor movement. Three individuals pleaded guilty to embezzlement, mail fraud, and conspiracy and cooperated with the federal prosecutors. (One of them, Michael Ansara, continued to do major consulting business with the DNC via his company, the Share Group .) A fourth, William Hamilton, a former political director of the Teamsters union, was found guilty in November 1999 and sentenced to three years in prison. The AFL-CIO's No. 2 official, Richard Trumka, who as secretary-treasurer signed some of the checks, has asserted his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to federal prosecutors, to a court-appointed labor investigator, to a congressional committee, and even to AFL-CIO president John Sweeney. It's difficult for many labor insiders to accept that Trumka hatched such a plan. No one seems to know for sure how the high-level labor conversations exactly went with respect to the illegal scheme involving the Democratic Party and the Teamsters, but Gerald
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mauling trial jurors explain verdicts
-Caveat Lector- Get on the web and look it up.it is there for all to beholdeven unto the perfume at the inception of this case prior to the trial as this woman tried to say the perfume drove the dog to sexual madness evidently.This Miglin sells some of this crap an evidently it drove her husband'[s killer to madness. Further it was reported several times the woman was jewish not that I give a damn but by her past performance she put on quite a show. I think it is sad the dogs had to pay the price... And watch yourself Bucko - you are about as accurate as June so get off your can and get into the web and look for it. That crap about the perfume might have made a good case but let us say it did not fly.I did not bother to read the garbage on this trialso they paid a high price for having two dogs that they were not able to controlyou will have to ask the woman yourself about the perfume this lesbian wore...did it drive the dog to madness? so get off your can and do your own research. I am out of here - OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israeli Spy Ring-THE TRUTH, AT LAST
-Caveat Lector- Wonder Bill if by the time they got to Phoenix they were gone? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Half Brother Says bin Laden Is Alive And Well
And O'Saba still says Osama bin Laden did not pull off that Twin Towers job - not his style. Further it is about time the people were told the truth about Danny Pearl and maybe his Merry Widow who professes to be a journalist will tell us for whom she has worked - for even PBS seems to beome a little suspicious of her background. Just a thought. OSaba Rense.com Half Brother Says bin Laden Is Alive And Well 3-19-2 JEDDA, Saudi Arabia (CNN) - A half brother of Osama bin Laden says the terrorist's family has its own information that bin Laden is alive and that he does not have kidney disease requiring dialysis. In an interview with CNN correspondent Rula Amin, Sheikh Ahmad -- who did not want his last name revealed -- also said he does not believe that bin Laden, part of a large and wealthy Saudi family, could be behind the September 11 attacks against the United States. He is my brother. I know him. I lived with him for years. I know how much he fears God, Sheikh Ahmad said. He and Osama have the same mother but different fathers. Sheikh Ahmad spoke fondly of his older brother, describing him as a simple, deeply religious man with a very soft heart who hates injustice. Such words stand in stark contrast to how President Bush and other world leaders have described bin Laden, branding him the mastermind behind the September attacks. An estimated 3,063 people were killed when four hijacked U.S. commercial jets crashed into New York's World Trade Center, the Pentagon in Virginia and a field in Pennsylvania. There's overwhelming evidence bin Laden was behind the attacks of September 11, said Peter Bergen, who has written a book about bin Laden. If the family chooses not to believe that, that's just how families operate. Family says phone call indicates bin Laden is alive Sheikh Ahmad said his mother received a call three weeks ago saying Osama was fine. He did not say who made the phone call. He said they believed the phone call was credible, that Osama is alive, said CNN's Amin. The half brother knows bin Laden better than much of the rest of the family, which officially denounced Osama in the mid-1990s after he condemned the Saudi royal family for allying itself with the United States against Iraq during the Persian Gulf War. Sheikh Ahmad said he visited bin Laden a few times when bin Laden lived in Sudan and he saw him in Afghanistan last year. Sheikh Ahmad said he was very worried when the United States declared him a wanted man, but his concerns have eased. It's easier now. We got used to it. We know any minute it's possible that we will hear some bad news, he said. Sheikh Ahmad spoke Arabic and his comments are based on English transcript of the 15-minute interview. It was taped this past Tuesday in a friend's house in Jedda, Saudi Arabia, where he lives Half brother condemns September 11 attacks Sheikh Ahmad is a 36-year-old married businessman who runs an advertising production company that's part of the vast and profitable bin Laden family business empire. The family business started in construction, expanding mosques in Mecca and Medina and building roads and palaces for the Saudi royal family. Sheikh Ahmad described the September 11 attacks as terrible. Any Muslim wouldn't accept this, he said, adding there was no way his brother could be involved in the hijackings. When the attacks came, it was a disaster for the bin Ladens. Two dozen of them were living in the United States, according to a family spokesman. For their own safety, the Saudi government quickly arranged for a charter jet that spirited them out of the country from Boston's Logan Airport. Since then, the bin Laden family has agonized over whether to publicly denounce Osama's activities. Sheikh Ahmad said he and his mother last saw bin Laden at the January 2001 wedding of one of Osama's sons in Afghanistan. It was at that wedding that Sheikh Ahmad said his infamous brother told him that stories he required kidney dialysis were not true. He loved his family and friends, gatherings. He especially adores his mother. First comes God, then his mother, Sheikh Ahmad said. Sheikh Ahmad was hesitant at first about doing the interview but agreed, believing he knew a side of Osama that he wanted to share with others. We grew up together in the same house, he said. Osama is known for being a simple person, very merciful, a very soft heart. It's impossible that anyone would sit with him and not like him or get bored. Frankly, Osama is very close to the heart and very popular. Asked whether he believed his brother would be captured, Sheikh Ahmad replied, I can't tell. As his brothers, we wish him safety. Their mother, he said, was worried most about bin Laden. She is an expert now, more than any media person. She watched all the news on all the different TV channels. We get her all the newspapers, the interviews, and she is always discussing it. Whatever his brother's fate, Sheikh Ahmad said he
Re: [CTRL] Cheney Says U.S. Will Attack Iraq For Israel's Sake
-Caveat Lector- This is a rather self serving story..if this be true neither Cheney or Sharon will be long for this world. Their deceit and treachury surely will not be overlooked by Bush. Murder of more Iraqi children for Israel's Sakehow about Suffer Little Children and for Christ's Sake, let them live. These god damned Israelis want war let them have it but don't expect the USA to lay themselves doo and dee for those bastards - and we can count of them.for what? Moral support? Our Friend Israel? REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY OSABA A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: BBC News | MIDDLE EAST | Flashback: Sabra and Shatila massacres
Now isn't it wonderful, there is a beer bellied Israeli in Florida training D Platoons to protect Americans and the chief spokesman standing side by side, shoulder to shoulder with this fat slob, was an American Negro who looked a wee bit uncomfortable. Is this what happened at Waco? Nobody seems to understand that the USA is associating with professional killers and hit men, once called Jewish Mafia and by their fruits you should have known them all the time - take another good look at the Meyer Lansky connection to the murder of JFK. When JFK was elected President this country was still clean but since its death, it has become a cesspool.all prepared now for the cleansing and burning? For we are now Zionists Scapegoat prepared for the killbut then we have been warned, haven't we. Better take another look around you and see what this sinister element called Zionism is diong to America - but its okay, those guys are insured up to their teeth - how about you? FOX caught those guys down in Florida training terrorists and this Israeli Pig was asked if he thought Americans would go for this stuf? Why of course, we will welcome it - and then read the story of SABRA and think of WACO and Ruby Ridge and ask who the hell do these god damned Israelis think they are.look to New York, and see their work. OSaba Flashback: Sabra and Shatila massacres An unknown number of Palestinians died in the 40-hour slaughter The 1982 massacres of Palestinians at Sabra and Shatila refugee camps claimed the lives of at least 800 civilians, murdered by Lebanese Christian militiamen allied to Israel during its brief occupation of the Lebanese capital, Beirut. The killings are considered the worst atrocity of Lebanon's 15-year civil war and perhaps during the entire Middle East conflict. Elie Hobeika was the Phalangists head of military intelligence The victims had been left defenceless after Israel drove the Syrian army and fighters belonging to Yasser Aratat's Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO) from the Lebanese capital. The expulsion of the PLO was the result of Israel's Operation Peace for Galilee invasion, masterminded by then-Defence Minister Ariel Sharon, to eradicate the terrorist threat posed by the Palestinians' military presence in Lebanon. The slaughter was carried out by fighters from the Lebanese Forces militia (LF), linked to the Christian Phalange group, who were hungry for revenge for the killing of the Phalange leader Bashir Gemayel in a car bomb two days earlier. They didn't spare anyone; they killed everyone they came across Survivor Muhammad Faqih PLO forces withdrew in a US-mediated ceasefire at the beginning of September. Mr Sharon declared that 2,000 terrorists remained in Palestinian refugee camps around Beirut. Sabra and Shatila were surrounded by Israeli tanks and soldiers, with checkpoints to monitor the entry or exit of any person. But on the afternoon of 16 September about 150 LF fighters moved into the camps. Massacre begins Survivors say that the killers went from house to house, threatening to blow up buildings if the residents did not come out. The survivors reported overhearing the Phalangists telling one another to use axes to kill their victims, because the sound of gunfire would alert others to their fate. The camps today: Little sympathy for Hobeika's assassination They killed my sister's husband in front of me, said survivor Nadima Nasser. I saw them shooting at the men. They killed them all. I fled. Mrs Nasser is one of 23 survivors who have lodged a legal case against Mr Sharon in Belgium, where the law allows him to be tried for alleged crimes committed abroad. Her testimony, along with others is included on a newly-launched internet site about the massacres, Justice for the Victims of Sabra and Shatila. Israeli inquiry Mr Sharon resigned his post after an Israeli commission of inquiry established that he bore indirect responsibility for the deaths for having disregarded the danger of acts of vengeance by the militias when he allowed them into the camps. Mr Sharon denies responsibility for the massacre The Kahane Commission inquiry said LF intelligence chief Elie Hobeika had direct responsibility, because he ordered the killings. Mr Hobeika denied involvement in the killings right up to his death in a car bomb attack on 24 January 2002. Outside Israel, human rights groups have long argued that Mr Sharon and the Lebanese Christian perpetrators should be tried for war crimes. In January 2001, in the run-up to Israeli elections in which he won a resounding victory, Mr Sharon expressed regret about the terrible tragedy, but refused to apologise or accept any responsibility for the massacres. The Belgian court is still deciding whether to pursue charges of crimes against humanity against Mr Sharon. Hobeika had said he would testify against the Israeli Prime Minister and had important revelations to make. See also: 24 Jan 02 | Middle East
[CTRL] Fwd: A Rush to Fix Ground Zero's Damaged Dike
One has the feeling there is already in the making Ghost Busters III or is it IV? And think, John O'Neill, lost the plans for all the underground tunnels of New York City and defensive terrorist plans in Florida? Florida? And ends up working for Larry Silverstein for one day. What is lovely here - seems to me to be okay to issue a warning of a possible flood, where people could build an Ark, but to describe the territory further explaining the how to and how not to about repair of this potential threat well stupid is as stupid does. The KGB through another FBI Agent already has all the tunnel plans for the City of Washington DC. Always love these Florida connections - could it be the mob is planning an invasion of Cuba again? A better name for this story would be Save the Titanic.but the Titanic too was insured? Now comes the flood? Job, chapter 28 11: He bindeth the floods from overflowing; and the thing that is hid bringeth he forth to light. OSaba March 21, 2002 A Rush to Fix Ground Zero's Damaged Dike By JAMES GLANZ and ERIC LIPTON workers are hurrying to shore up and patch a 90-foot-wide gash in the below- ground retaining wall that encircles much of the World Trade Center site after discovering that groundwater, fed by the Hudson River, is only a precarious foot below the lower rim of the damaged area. Engineers working at ground zero yesterday said there was no imminent danger of a collapse of the wall, which is called the bathtub, or of an inundation of the pit that has been dug at the site. But they are already digging wells outside the gash in effect a bite taken out of the eastern side of the bathtub to relieve the pressure of the groundwater on the wall. And they are designing a giant steel-and- concrete patch, to be anchored in bedrock. The damage in the bathtub wall occurred on Sept. 11, when the upper floors of the south tower toppled toward the southeast and tore the huge gash. But until recently, this damaged area had been buried beneath debris. Only now that crews are excavating the southeast corner of the site one of the last spots at ground zero to be cleared did they discover just how seriously the wall had been compromised, and how close it had come to allowing a major flood. The damage to the wall was known; the extent is now more clear, said Matthew Monahan, a spokesman for the Department of Design and Construction, the city agency overseeing the cleanup. Richard Perry/The New York Times The south tower's collapse tore a huge gash out of the retaining wall, called the bathtub, around the trade center site. Groundwater is one foot below the bottom of the gash. The retaining wall has numerous small leaks, and water constantly seeps up into the bathtub from cracks in the bedrock deep below. But if the wall were to crumble further or if the water level were to rise slightly, water would start going over the wall, said Dan Hahn, an engineer at Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers, which is designing the repairs to the wall. It wouldn't be a leak; it would be a flow. Mr. Hahn said any major leak was unlikely if the patchwork went ahead as planned. Paul Ashlin, a senior vice president at Bovis Lend Lease, which is managing the cleanup work for the city, agreed, saying, I can hardly imagine that happening. Still, he said, this is the first time we've encountered any water problem except for the small leaks. No structure like the bathtub, a steel-reinforced concrete wall reaching down 70 feet from street level, had ever been built on such a large scale before construction at the trade center began in the 1960's. When the twin towers collapsed on Sept. 11, much of their debris formed super-compressed piles within the bathtub. Now the wall looms, rough and dirty, over a legion of heavy equipment involved in cleaning up debris far below street level. (saba note: according to one report, the World Trade Center was built on landfill?) Over the last 10 days, workers have begun excavating the southeast corner of the site. We've got to dig it very gingerly, George Tamaro, an engineer and partner at Mueser Rutledge, said last week. Unknowns are always a problem. Workers have already begun digging a pair of wells just outside the gash so pumps to lower the groundwater level can be installed. A set of cable supports called tiebacks, like hundreds that have been installed around the site already, are being threaded through the wall just above an embankment that has recently been yielding human remains. The cables are anchored into the bedrock. Water streaming through tieback holes before they were sealed gave one indication of how close the water was to the bottom of the gash. Although installing the tiebacks has become routine in many ways, Mr. Tamaro said that the southeast corner presented some special problems: part of the bedrock there, gouged out by a glacier, has left only loose rocks and boulders behind, making the anchoring
[CTRL] Fwd: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Body parts found in Spanish car
Note this family in Georgia has been put on endangeres species list because they are afraid of a lynching party. The gag order put on this case no doubt is to protect the guilty and the individuals who head up the Democrat body, for you see robbing the dead, and having graves on your property full of body parts, evidently is not taken too seriously in Georgia. Did this famly run a Used Body Part: lot and look at this case now. I am waiting to see what happened to the little girl with the blonde hair and blues eyes in the white dress - her mother got cement dust for ashes. Keep thinking of those urns in New York City where these mixed ashes were given to the survivors of the loved ones by this Comapny of Undertakers...wonder if the urns were donated or who picked up the tab. And Cryolife was just getting ready to big time in and was set to enter the New York Stock Exhangeodd, thought it was illegal to sell body parts unless like this guy in Georgis maybe you would be running a Used Body Part lot. Further the ghouls are after the land of the deadI saw this in Columbus on Hamilton Road - a little cemetary suddenly disappeared and years later another mall.This was pulled in my town and we had the Historical Society make this one little cemetary an Historical Marker - let them try to get that one, for the move was on to move the bodies on this choice piece of land some years ago. Tri State Burian and a Garbage Man - Funeral HOme Directors permitted this garbage to make out death certificates and pick up bodies? And pocketed the money, right? Saba Body parts found in car boot of Spanish funeral parlour worker Giles Tremlett in Madrid Wednesday March 20, 2002 The Guardian Spanish police have arrested a former funeral parlour employee near the southern city of Malaga after discovering the partial remains of at least 20 bodies at his home and in plastic bags hidden in the boot of his car. The man, aged 41 and named by the Spanish media as Francisco Escudero, was detained after a routine check by traffic police revealed that the bin liners in his car hid bits of human bodies believed to be up to six years old. We have 20 heads and there are lots of other body parts, a spokesman for Malaga's civil guard police force said. Some of them are very deteriorated so now it is up to the forensic experts to say how many people the remains belong to. He said the bodies had never been buried and appeared to have been taken directly from a funeral parlour. The discovery appeared to provide further evidence of a big cremation and fraud scandal in Malaga similar to the recent case near the American town of Lafayette, Georgia. The fraud involves funeral parlours either hiding bodies away or finding cheap ways to dispose of them while continuing to charge clients the full costs of a cremation. Hundreds of pounds profit will have been made on each body. In the Georgia case, about 300 bodies intended for cremation in the Tri-State crematorium were instead scattered around the grounds. The Malaga police spokesman said Mr Escudero had worked at Funesur, one of the funeral parlours already being investigated for allegedly defrauding their clients and pretending to cremate people while handing over urns of fake ashes to relatives. Mr Escudero had left his job as a driver for the parlour several months ago. Funesur is one of several companies involved in a case going through the local courts that was sparked by the discovery of 47 bodies at another funeral worker's house five years ago. In that case several defendants, including the manager and an employee of a public cemetery, were accused of fraud in connection with 3,000 illegal cremations. The prosecution has alleged that local funeral parlours produced fake ashes for the families. Bodies were instead stored up before being secretly cremated during night sessions at the municipal crematorium, where moonlighting employees with access to the keys charged cut price rates to funeral parlour workers involved in the scam. It is still not clear what happened to the real ashes of those secretly cremated. Mr Escudero was stopped at a police checkpoint on a road near the town of Ardales. In the boot of his vehicle the police discovered four bin liners carrying several heads and other body parts. A police spokesman said Mr Escudero was thought to be planning to dispose of the remains. Police then went to Mr Escudero's house in Santa Rosalia, about 15 miles from Malaga, where more body parts were found hidden in plastic sacks in the yard. Police said the bodies discovered in the house may have been there since the discovery of bodies five years ago. They would have been destined for a clandestine cremation at the city crematorium, but with organisers of the illegal sessions arrested, the corpses had been left untouched. Police were still searching the house at Santa Rosalia yesterday. Printable version | Send it to a friend | Read it later | See
[CTRL] Fwd: FBI closes in on Anthrax Terrorist - Prime suspect is a Zionist
Note all this activity in Florida, Israeli hoodlums holding training for D Platoons to protect the American people? Strange, this Florida connection always. So Remember the USS Liberty and the Lavon Affair and then consider this - Sadaam Hussein once offered the USA Cheap oil, but if the Israelis have their way, it will be the Zionist Oil Companiesremember Marc Rich, this pig charged with racketeering and his floosie wife both bribing the President through this corrupt ADL ..Rich during embargo re Iran bought oil cheap, 6 dollars a barrel and then sold for $29 up to $45...and this piece is sleeze is in with George Soros. Thise dual citizenship people should be shipped to their promised land and get the hell out of ours before they destroy America further. OSaba FBI Closes in on Anthrax Terrorist Prime Suspect is a Zionist by Hector Carreon La Voz de Aztlan Los Angeles, Alta California - 2/26/2002 - (ACN) Jewish microbiologist Dr. Philip M. Zack may be behind the deadly anthrax contaminated letters that were mailed to NBC's Tom Brokaw, Senator Tom Daschle and others, according to FBI sources. In a rapidly unravelling investigation by the FBI, it appears that the Arab-hating-Jew was behind a vile conspiracy to frame a colleague who was born in Egypt and who worked, along with Dr. Zack, at the U.S. Army's Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases in Fort Detrick, Md. La Voz de Aztlan has maintained from the beginning that the anthrax-laced letters seemed contrived and were purposely written to make them appear that they were coming from someone in the Islamic World. New information just released by the FBI confirms our suspicions. On October 9, 2001 we published Anthrax Terrorists may be Zionists in which we outlined the reasons for our suspicions and in addition reported on a letter we received with a yellowish powder. On October 24, 2001 we published an editorial Anthrax Letter Messages Seem Contrived in which we commented on our theory concerning the origin of the letters. We also published pictures of the three actual letters and envelopes. We have now compared the handwriting on these letters to the one we received and it looks suspiciously the same. We are not handwriting experts and have made the decision to publish the envelope and letter we received so that our readership can see for themselves. Our local police department never came to pick up the envelope and letter and we still have them in a double zip-lock plastic bag. The letter and envelope addressed to La Voz de Aztlan are published at http://www.aztlan.net/letterbiochem.htm The case against Dr. Phillip M. Zack began unravelling when Egyptian-born scientist Dr. Ayaad Assaad, now a U.S. citizen, was called in by the FBI for an interview on October 2, 2001. The FBI had received an unsigned letter falsely accusing Dr. Assaad of being responsible for mailing the anthrax tainted letters. The letter stated, among other things, Dr. Assaad is a potential biological terrorist, and I have worked with Dr. Assaad, and I heard him say that he has a vendetta against the U.S. government and that if anything happens to him, he told his sons to carry on. Rosemary A. McDermott, attorney for Dr. Assaad, stated that here is a very close connection between the person who sent that letter and the person who sent the anthrax. Ms. McDermott said The person who wrote that letter knew intimate details of my client's life and his professional history, and about the Fort Detrick operation. I don't think that is a coincidence. The Fort Detrick biochemical research laboratory has maintained stores of weapons-grade anthrax that is commonly known as the Ames strain of Bacillus anthracis. The anonymous letter falsely accusing Dr. Assaad was sent a little after the September 11 terrorist attacks but before anyone knew about the anthrax-laced letters. On October 5, 2001, about 10 days after the anonymous letter was mailed, Robert Stevens, Photo Editor of The Sun in Florida, became the first of five individuals to die from an anthrax infection. The racist and bigoted attacks on Dr. Ayaad Assaad by Zionist Philip Zack and others started while he worked at the Army's bioweapons lab at Fort Detrick in Maryland during the 1990's. This is when a vicious racist vendetta was launched against the scientist of Arab descent. A group of coworkers led by then Army Lt. Col. Philip Zack began a hateful campaign to harass and get Dr. Assaad fired from his duties. The Zionists apparently wanted to get rid of anyone that could uncover their sinister plans which consisted in stealing weapons grade anthrax and other deadly viruses used in biological weapons. The conspirators had the support of the lab's former commander. Among other things, the bigots wrote and passed around a very crude poem denigrating Arab Americans, an obscene rubber camel and constantly poked fun at Dr. Assaad's use of the English language. In 1991 Dr. Assaad discovered the eight-page poem in his
[CTRL] So Einstein Worked in Patent Office Collecting Ideas Perhaps?
presenting a very simple objection to the probability interpretation Then he fell back into silence ... Indeed Einstein's life had been hectic and he was to pay the price in 1928 with a physical collapse brought on through overwork. However he made a full recovery despite having to take things easy throughout 1928. By 1930 he was making international visits again, back to the United States. A third visit to the United States in 1932 was followed by the offer of a post at Princeton. The idea was that Einstein would spend seven months a year in Berlin, five months at Princeton. Einstein accepted and left Germany in December 1932 for the United States. The following month the Nazis came to power in Germany and Einstein was never to return there. During 1933 Einstein travelled in Europe visiting Oxford, Glasgow, Brussels and Zurich. Offers of academic posts which he had found it so hard to get in 1901, were plentiful. He received offers from Jerusalem, Leiden, Oxford, Madrid and Paris. What was intended only as a visit became a permanent arrangement by 1935 when he applied and was granted permanent residency in the United States. At Princeton his work attempted to unify the laws of physics. However he was attempting problems of great depth and he wrote:- I have locked myself into quite hopeless scientific problems - the more so since, as an elderly man, I have remained estranged from the society here... In 1940 Einstein became a citizen of the United States, but chose to retain his Swiss citizenship. He made many contributions to peace during his life. In 1944 he made a contribution to the war effort by hand writing his 1905 paper on special relativity and putting it up for auction. It raised six million dollars, the manuscript today being in the Library of Congress. By 1949 Einstein was unwell. A spell in hospital helped him recover but he began to prepare for death by drawing up his will in 1950. He left his scientific papers to the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, a university which he had raised funds for on his first visit to the USA, served as a governor of the university from 1925 to 1928 but he had turned down the offer of a post in 1933 as he was very critical of its administration. One more major event was to take place in his life. After the death of the first president of Israel in 1952, the Israeli government decided to offer the post of second president to Einstein. He refused but found the offer an embarrassment since it was hard for him to refuse without causing offence. One week before his death Einstein signed his last letter. It was a letter to Bertrand Russell in which he agreed that his name should go on a manifesto urging all nations to give up nuclear weapons. It is fitting that one of his last acts was to argue, as he had done all his life, for international peace. Einstein was cremated at Trenton, New Jersey at 4 pm on 18 April 1955 (the day of his death). His ashes were scattered at an undisclosed place. (Saba note: It is said his brain is in a Mason jar somewhere and it was lost; but can we really be sure it was Einstein who was cremated and maybe not just some cement ashes blown to the wind) Article by: J J O'Connor and E F Robertson Glossary entries for this page List of References (365 books/articles) Some Quotations (43) A Poster of Albert Einstein Mathematicians born in the same country Cross-references to History Topics The quantum age begins A visit to James Clerk Maxwell's house A brief history of cosmology General relativity Special relativity Other references in MacTutor A meeting with Einstein. Chronology: 1900 to 1910 Chronology: 1910 to 1920 Honours awarded to Albert Einstein (Click a link below for the full list of mathematicians honoured in this way) Nobel Prize Awarded 1921 Fellow of the Royal Society Elected 1921 Royal Society Copley Medal Awarded 1925 AMS Gibbs Lecturer 1934 Lunar featuresCrater Einstein Other Web sites Albert Einstein Online American Institute of Physics Institute of Physics University of Glasgow Nobel prizes site (A biography of Einstein and his Nobel prize presentation speech) Encyclopaedia Britannica Previous (Chronologically) Next Biographies Index Previous (Alphabetically) Next Main index History Topics Societies, honours, etc. Famous curves Time lines Birthplace maps Chronology Search Form Glossary index Quotations index Poster index Mathematicians of the day Anniversaries for the year JOC/EFR April 1997 The URL of this page is: School_of_Mathematics_and_Statistics University_of_St_Andrews,_Scotland http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/history/Mathematicians/Einstein.html ---BeginMessage--- http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Einstein.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Building Big: Databank: World Trade Center
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[CTRL] Pakistan Government to let US Troops into Pakistan
And No Wonder - recent tax increases in Pakistan, they need the added protection for without a doubt this government is riding for a big fall - will the USA save their worthless hides. Will their police kidnpa maybe a few USA Army Generals or something that is if any of them these days to to war with their troops, as did Schwartzkophnote Frank and Rosa stay home and play computer war games. So steal from the poor and give to the rich - thought that was to be the other way around - you steal from the rich and give to the poor.or at least, leave the poor alone and abolish their taxes. The one tax here, which I have reproduced below is typical of these new wonderful firiends...love those Blue Berets, So the walls come a tumbling down? OSaba 22 March 2002 Friday 07 Muharram 1423 Please Visit our Sponsor (Ads open in separate window) Imposition of GST on drugs slammed By Our Reporter ISLAMABAD, March 21: A cross-section of public opinion has sharply reacted to the levy of 15 per cent general sales tax (GST) on medicines. Dr Mushtaq Noorwala, a representative of Pakistan Chemical and Drugs Association told Dawn that the levy of sales tax on medicines was a curse which would further burden the country's poor. He said that it was a pity that the government had allocated only 0.2 per cent share of the total budget for the health-care. Mr Noorwala said the government had not made things clear about the existing stock of medicines. Pakistan Manufacturers Association, Vice-Chairman, Muhammad Abdullah Feroz said the levy of GST would push up the already high prices of drugs in a country where more than 50 per cent people were living below the poverty line. Rejecting the government's claim that the revenue generated through sales tax would be allocated for the betterment of the people, he said the present government has over-burdened the poor people with multiple taxes. He pointed out that in some European countries the sales tax was levied not more than 10 per cent on specific medicines, however, these governments have provided sufficient medical facilities to their citizens. People have been left with no choice but to buy the low-cost locally manufactured medicines instead of more effective but costly drugs manufactured by multinational companies, he said. Sohail A Sethi, president Rawalpindi Chamber of Commerce and Industry said that instead of bringing down prices of life-saving drugs to an affordable level, the government was continuously raising them. Mr Sethi expressed his fears that after the fresh increase in drug prices the government might withdraw from the responsibility of making medicines available in the government hospitals. Please Visit our Sponsor (Ads open in separate window) © The DAWN Group of Newspapers, 2002 ---BeginMessage--- -- D A W NI n t e r n e tN e w s A l e r t -- Friday, 22 March, 2002 -- The DAWN Internet NewsAlert (DINA) is a free daily news-service from Pakistan's largest English language newspaper, the Daily DAWN. We encourage comments suggestions. We can be reached at: e-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW http://dawn.com/ fax +92(21) 568-3188 568-3801 snail-mailDAWN Group of Newspapers Haroon House, Karachi 74200, Pakistan (c) Pakistan Herald Publications (Pvt.) Ltd., Pakistan - 2002 The link at the end of each extract can be used to access the complete story on DAWN - the Internet Edition. -- http://DesiStore.com http://DesiStore.com http://DesiStore.com The Holy Quran with English Translation (Audio CDs) 42 Cds for only $119.50 It is imperative on us, to try and understand the context and the meaning of the verses contained in the Book. It is in this context that this 42 Audio CD set proves to be a priceless addition to any Muslim household. http://www.desistore.com/desistore-com/quranenglish.html The Holy Quran with Urdu Translation (Audio CDs) 40 CDs for only $104.50 The rhythm and fluency that Qari Khushi Muhammad generates while reciting the Holy Quran is second to none. Maulana Fateh Muhammad Jalandhari's translation is universally accepted for its accuracy. Add Talat Hussain's Urdu recitation and you can rest assured- you will not find a better team. http://www.desistore.com/desistore-com/quranurdu.html http://DesiStore.com http://DesiStore.com http://DesiStore.com -- 15pc GST levied on medicines -- By Mubarak Zeb Khan ISLAMABAD, March 21: The federal government on Thursday imposed 15 per cent general sales tax (GST) on all
Re: [CTRL] Saddam's Oppositions Opposes Offensive
-Caveat Lector- Now here is a story about a guy, who was so busy tending to other people's business, he did not tend to his own businessand as a result - well, is history repeating itself? Think anybody really cares about collateral damage..no, and further, I hate black. OSaba Song of Solomon, chapter 1 1: The song of songs, which is Solomon's. 2: Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine. 3: Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee. 4: Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee. 5: I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon. 6: Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept. Kind of reminds me too of Clinton entertaining a prostitute in the Oval Office.. Its about time the President tended to the business of running our government but at least he does not chase prostiatutes around his desk in the oval office, or was she just the pizza deliviery girl with a Star of David stamped on her behindh OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pentagon's Top Cuba Expert Pleads Guilty to Espionage
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/20/national/20SPY.html?todaysheadlines A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Zionist Racists, War Criminals and Fanatics
Found this in the Michael Huffman story re his site. Now why in Joel 3 has the word Palestine been stricken from the bible - the new revised edition has removed the last refernece to Palestine from the bible. Also in verse 9 where they call for the Gentiles to come over and save their asses, this has been changed to Mighty Men for obvious reasons. This is interesting story - the Palestinians are being genocided. The TRUE SEMITES.this is anti Semitism and the Zionists are anti semites.The Palestinians are strangers in their own land.the very word Palestine means Land of Strangers.so is this the Christian Zionist Plan to murder all semites? Is this what it is? Zioniists to murder all semites? Figures, they worked well with Hitler aka Hidler aka Hister aka Schicklegruberand that Arien Sharon his real name is Scheinman? They have changed their names to names in the bible. How does one get Sharon out of Scheinman? The Israeli Holocaust Against the Arabs Online Museum Researched and curated by Michael Hoffman Profiles of Zionist Racists, War Criminals and Fanatics Last update: March 17, 2002 March 11, 2002.: Thousands of Israeli racists and supremacists demonstrate in Rabin Square demanding the ethnic cleansing of the occupied territories of Palestine, with the transfer (forced deportation) of the entire Palestinian nation. The IronWall In 1923, radical Zionist Ze'ev Jabotinsky-- spiritual father of not only of Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin but of Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane-- wrote that the sole way for Jews to deal with Arabs in Palestine was through total avoidance of all attempts to arrive at a settlement-which Jabotinsky euphemistically termed the iron wall approach. Not coincidentally, a picture of Jabotinsky graces Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's desk. Source: The Village Voice, Death Wish in the Holy Land, Dec. 12, 2001 Wall Sreet Journal Columnist Calls for Bombings, Kidnappings and Torture of Palestinians In an editorial in the august Wall Street Journal, the flagship publication of America's corporate elite, Israeli columnist Hillel Halkin called for bombing, kidnapping and torturing Palestinians: I can make careful use of the intelligence at Israel's disposal to identify, locate and kill...with minimal loss of innocent life, by such means as booby-trapping their telephones, rocketing their cars and offices, etc. In a word, assassinate them. Sounds good to me. ...hold a trial with the help of witnesses similary abducted from the Palestinian territories. If necessary it (Israel) should apply physical pressure (a euphemism for torture) to these witnesses... The Wall Street Journal, August 28, 2001, p. A14. Rabbi Calls for Genocide of Arabs During a sermon preceding the 2001 Passover holiday, the influential Israeli Rabbi Ovadia Yosef exclaimed: May the Holy Name visit retribution on the Arab heads, and cause their seed to be lost, and annihilate them. He added: It is forbidden to have pity on them. We must give them missiles with relish, annihilate them. Evil ones, damnable ones. Source: Ha'aretz April 12, 2001 Israeli Minister in Sharon's Cabinet Wants All Palestinians Expelled Israeli Minister Rechavam Ze'evi, who took his place in Ariel Sharon's cabinet March 7, 2001, a former Israeli army major-general, wants the 3 million Palestinians expelled from the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Ze'evi is the founder of the Moledet party. Joining him in Sharon's cabinet is the Russian-Jewish immigrant Avigdor Lieberman, the new infrastructure minister. The leader of a political party, Mr Lieberman has called for Israel to bomb Egypt's Aswan dam. Ze'evi will push for the invasion of Palestinian-ruled towns to end the resistance. He wants to cleanse the West Bank of Palestinians. The Arabs living in the West Bank and Gaza have to be transferred... He has been drawing up battle scenarios for Sharon, and has joined Lieberman in demanding assurances that Mr Sharon will invade the West Bank and Gaza Strip. He also wants the army to unleash attack dogs on Palestinian demonstrators. Source: Suzanne Goldenberg, The Guardian (London). March 7, 2001 Statements by the Founders of Zionism and the Israeli State We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel...Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours.-Rafael Eitan, chief of staff of the Israel Defense Forces, quoted in Yediot Ahronot, April 13, 1983, and The New York Times, April 14, 1983. [The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs.-Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, Begin and the 'Beasts,' New Statesman, June 25,1982. We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return.-David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, July 18, 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157. We must
Re: [CTRL] Paddywhackery
-Caveat Lector- I agree Andrew for the English loves us as much as I love Mohammed Ali who claims he had an Irish Father. If he had an Irish ancestor I am a monkey's Uncle. Yuk. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientism Religious Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- Well Joshua Tinnin if you are waiting have a nice wait. I do not think Dr. Poley is going to be your step and fetch it. His intellectual level is well over your head - so have a nice wait Bagal Hole 2. You are ridiculous.Have a nice wait..cannot imagine Dr. Poley wasting any more of his valuable time on you. Hey Dr. Poley - you going to waste your time spoon feeding these bagal holes or what? This self-appointed jack ass of all trades and master of none - this leader of men - is waiting for your answer..now you all get busy now, you hear? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientism Religious Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- 1 Kings, chapter 10 Chapter 22: For the king had at sea a navy of Tharshish with the navy of Hiram: once in three years came the navy of Tharshish, bringing gold, and silver, ivory, and apes, zionists, and peacocks. So here is the creation - zionists and apes walk hand in hand and he beginning of too maybe the origino of the peacock society. Solomon was not so wise at that was he to bring apes and zionists to a civilized society for now we have what is referred to in more polite quarters, as The Planet of the Apes in USA. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: 90 Are Arrested in Inquiry Into Internet Child-Sex Ring
InternationalNational-ColumnsNation ChallengedPoliticsBusinessTechnologyScienceHealthSportsNew York RegionEducationWeatherObituariesNYT Front PageCorrectionsEditorials/Op-EdReaders' Opinions ArtsBooksMoviesTravelDining WineHome GardenFashion StyleNew York TodayCrossword/GamesCartoonsMagazineWeek in ReviewPhotosCollegeLearning NetworkArchiveClassifiedsNYT MobileNYT StoreE-Cards MoreAbout NYTDigitalJobs at NYTDigitalOnline Media KitOur AdvertisersYour Profile E-Mail Preferences News Tracker Premium Account Site Help Home Delivery Customer Service Electronic Edition Media KitText Version Welcome, sabaxxii March 19, 2002 90 Are Arrested in Inquiry Into Internet Child-Sex Ring By DAVID STOUT Topics AlertsPornography and ObscenityCrime and CriminalsFederal Bureau of InvestigationChildren and YouthCreate Your Own | Manage Alerts Take a Tour Sign Up for Newsletters ASHINGTON, March 18 A nationwide Internet child-pornography ring has been smashed with the arrest of about 90 people, including two Roman Catholic priests, a school bus driver, a teacher's aide and a police officer, the federal authorities said today. It is clear that a new marketplace for child pornography has emerged from the dark corners of cyberspace, Attorney General John Ashcroft said at a news briefing. Innocent boys and girls have been targeted by offenders who view them as sexual objects. The suspects have been charged with various felonies, including possession, production or distribution of child pornography, said Angela Bell, a spokeswoman for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The most serious charges carry sentences of several years in prison upon conviction, Ms. Bell said. In addition, 27 of those arrested have admitted to having molested more than 40 children, the F.B.I. said. Ms. Bell said that she did not know much about the children's backgrounds and that the authorities were still trying to take them out of harm's way. Mr. Ashcroft said investigations into child pornography often led to evidence of actual molestation, so that indulging in pornography could in no way be viewed as a harmless diversion. The attorney general and the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, said all 56 F.B.I. field offices and numerous local law enforcement units were taking part in the operation, which began in January 2001 in Houston after an undercover agent there identified groups involved in child pornography. One Web site advertised itself as for people who love kids, the authorities said. The site invited people to post any type of messages you like and offered a postscript: If we all work together, we will have the best group on the Net. The Houston groups used the Candyman as a general cyberheading, prompting the Justice Department to call its antipornography effort Operation Candyman. The authorities said that the groups' Web sites had been shut down, and that many more arrests were expected. The authorities counted about 7,000 computer addresses in the Candyman groups, with about 2,400 of those outside the United States. Subpoenas were served upon Internet-service providers. More than 200 searches of homes and computers were carried out, the F.B.I. said. Ms. Bell said some arrests were made weeks or months ago and had already been publicized. One priest was arrested in Baltimore and the other in St. Louis, she said. The Baltimore arrest, of the Rev. Thomas Rydzewski, 35, on charges of possessing pornography, occurred on Dec. 13 and was widely reported in that city at the time. Seven people have been arrested in Houston and five in Miami, the authorities said. Four people have been arrested in Albany, four in Philadelphia, three in New York City and one in Newark. The F.B.I. said one woman was among those arrested. In addition to the two priests, several other clergymen are suspected, the F.B.I. said. Many other suspects had jobs that put them in close contact with children. They include a school bus driver in Albany, a teacher's aide at a preschool and day-care center in Las Vegas, a child photographer in Philadelphia and law enforcement professionals in Pittsburgh and San Diego, the F.B.I. said. Little League baseball coaches and a registered foster-care parent are among the suspects. Ms. Bell said she believed that some of the men were married and had children of their own. The F.B.I. did not name any of the suspects. One, a respiration therapist in Little Rock, Ark., has committed suicide. Mr. Ashcroft and F.B.I. officials said there would be more anti-pornography campaigns. I mean, we're dealing with children here, said Bruce J. Gebhardt, F.B.I. executive assistant director for criminal investigations and cybercrime. I'd like to see one sweep a day. Home | Back to National | Search | HelpBack to Top Discover New Topics of the Times Find More Low Fares! Experience Orbitz! Fly the flat bed and get two free tickets! Click here to order Reprints or Permissions of this Article Click Here to Receive 50% Off Home
Re: [CTRL] Scientism Religious Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- Well Joshua Tinnin you would be a home in Georgia nowcan see you out there stomping for those negros this oh so refined respected family for one even headed up what was once the Democrat Party? Got a little scam going there. I think you are one big ignoramus and your theories, really Joshua Tinnin, are not original nor are they conclusive. Let me know when you come up with something original and please, like Steve Wingate who got called down for plagiarism of a few brains on a more scientific list - when you quote from Darwin or others of prominence please divulge your sources. Tell me have you ever come up with anything original in your life? Georgia is just the place for you - you would fit in nicely but better duck when the bullets start flying for it might be difficult for you for you will get it from both sides. now go back with your little friends and play - and look up the word plagiarism in the dictionary before you continue on. But please try to come up with something original? We all studied Darwin in high school and college - and this is where we learned why Albert Einstein spent so much time working in a Patent Office where he lifted a lot of original ideas and plans from others? Now go ahead and spellcheck this and edit it for me if you have the time; for I do not. No doubt when we find out who is in this body part business in Georgia it will lead to Florida - and a few cemetaries down there..maybe you think it is alright for a negro to collect pictures of white corpses he was paid to cremate but rather chose to put them on a computer with his pornography? When the war begins call me. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Pravda.RU Ukrainian knight of science disproves Einstein and prepares himself for solving gravitations mystery
for the licence to broadcast on the sixth channel of the Russian television. For the time being, the Russian sports fans still have the opportunity to watch the sports programs of the commercial NTV+ channel on TV6, but this good time is going to be over soon More details... 18:00 GEORGIA SETS THE USA AGAINST ABKHAZIA Official Tbilisi seems to be pressing for development of the situation. Such attitude can be also understood: too many guerrillas and al Qaeda militants are hiding on Georgia's territory. Georgia's President Eduard Shevardnadze seems to have forgotten the fact that he used to be indignant at Moscow's supposition about lots of militants hiding in the Pankissky gorge. The situation changed when Washington had officially confirmed the information More details... 15:42 RUSSIA-USA: DEFEATS EVERYWHERE Dreams are always so sweet. The discernment came too late. First, the USA withdrew from the ABM Treaty of 1972. Russia seemed to be indignant for some time, but admitted the defeat after all. Vladimir Putin was to have pricked up the ears. The matter is, the USA withdrew from the Treaty probably to see Russia's reaction More details... 13:22 SERBIAN REPUBLIC MAY VANISH UNLESS THE EUROPEAN STANDARDS ADOPTED Posters with the portraits announcing a $5 million reward for information about the location of Mladic and Karadzic are all around Bosnia. Leaflets printed in the form of US dollars of the same content have been scattered from the air over some regions of the Serbian Republic. But the campaign has brought no results yet. Bosnia's Serbs ignore the leaflets, tear off the posters, slogans in support of Karadzic and Mladic have been posted everywhere instead More details... 11:30 ADMINISTRATION OF ULYANOVSK REGION LEFT WITHOUT HEATING Ulyanovskenergo stock company has declared starting the company for limitation of energy supply. For the first time, among the victims of energy suppliers there is the building of the Communist Party's former regional committee. More details... 11:07 USA/IRAQ As the rhetoric increases from the US administration, orders for military aircraft fuel increase. More details... Pravda.RU:Best articles on this week:Top Stories 2002.03.11 IN THE US, CLASSICAL RUSSIAN BOOKS ARE BEING BURNED 2002.03.14 THE ANACONDA CHOKED ON HER OWN TAIL 2002.03.14 AMERICAN SOLDIERS TAKE THE FIGHT WITH BIN LADEN TO PENTAGON TOILETS 2002.03.15 USA/IRAQ 2002.03.12 US SPECIAL TROOPS ALREADY IN YEMEN. IT IS GOING GET HOT THERE 2002.03.12 WHO WILL DO WASHINGTON'S DIRTY WORK? IRAQ DOES NOT HAVE ITS OWN NORTHERN ALLIANCE 2002.03.13 THE STORY OF THE MISSING AMERICAN PILOT MAY BE THE EXCUSE NEEDED FOR THE US TO ATTACK IRAQ 2002.03.13 AMERICA OFFENDS CHINA: WILL CHINA SOON JOIN THE AXIS OF EVIL? 2002.03.12 ARMA MOUNTAINS SHELTER FUGITIVES AS US JETS POUND AL-QAEDA, TALIBAN HIDEOUTS 2002.03.13 SLAP IN THE FACE FROM A BEST FRIEND: GREAT BRITAIN INSULTED BY US Forum topics European Rapid Reaction Force Fact, Fantasy, Idiocy or Chance? - (88) KILL, KILL, KILL - (74) Children of Man*** UNITE UNDER THE LAW *** (our politic) - (61) Philippine Rebels... MILF... Linked to al-Qaida ?! - (58) God spoke! - (58) Calendar MoTuWeThFrSaSu1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Feb/2002 Web-publishers Add PRAVDA.Ru headlines to your site for free! Search Search WWW Search pravda.ru Culture Konstantin's Palace: in Search of the Original Ukrainian knight of science disproves Einstein and prepares himself for solving gravitation's mystery Economics Russia's Economy: Timid Peek Ahead Hot spots Two Americans among the dead Suicide attacks in Kfar Saba and Jerusalem kill one Israeli Politics Portugal: slight move to centre-right Sergei Mironov respects Palestinian people and Yassir Arafat Regions of Russia Konstantin's Palace: in Search of the Original World Portugal: slight move to centre-right Advertising on Pravda.RU Copyright ©1999 by Pravda.RU. When reproducing our materials in whole or in part, reference to Pravda.RU should be made. The opinions and views of the authors do not always coinside with the point of view of PRAVDA.Ru's editors. ---BeginMessage--- http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/03/18/27035.html ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Huge rise in babies born with defects (UK)
-Caveat Lector- Well UK no doubt has opened doors to Leprosy as has the USA with their multicultural life styles. This item note is old but there are later items where New YOrk and New Jersey has oh so many uses for this drug - you knowo the one where little babies were born with flippers instead of little arms and legs? As though one took 5 million years of devleopment and one poison pill turned babies back into tadpoles? they know damn well what is wrong over there and over here too for America too is being invaded and as a result Leprosy in on the rise as well as AIDS and other diseases .. Time to close the ports and ship some of these people back home... Leprosy soon well no longer are there lepor communities and those who permit their children to go to public swimming pools which are like sharing the same bathtub - but anyone who permits their children to go to public swimming pools is asking for trouble. In our pool where this one local homosexual roamed - some years back - before this man was murdered, he was suffering from a wasting disease which at the time, not much was known about AIDS.now toss in the leprosy. OSaba Unregistered User Thalidomide Submitted for NDAs for Use In Leprosy and AIDS Cachexia WARREN, N.J., Nov. 11, 1996 -- Celgene Corporation (Nasdaq: CELG) today reconfirmed that it will submit a New Drug Application (NDA) by the end of 1996 with the Food and Drug Administration for the use of thalidomide in the treatment of erythema nodosum leprosem (ENL), a disorder associated with leprosy. The company met November 8 with the Dermatologic and Ophthalmic Drugs Advisory Committee to the FDA. Following the closed meeting, Celgene Chairman and CEO John W. Jackson said his company will move ahead with submission plans and is hoping for a timely and favorable review. Celgene has completed the pivotal trial for the use of thalidomide in AIDS-related cachexia, a severe weight loss and wasting condition. Assuming satisfactory safety and efficacy data, the company plans to move forward to submit an NDA in this indication also. Celgene Corporation, headquartered in Warren, N.J., uses proprietary expertise in small molecule chemistry to serve the pharmaceutical and allied industries. E-mail this page to a friend or colleague!To print, use this version Any question regarding a medical diagnosis, treatment, referral, drug availability or pricing should be directed to either a licensed physician or to the product's manufacturer. If you have any technical questions or other concerns about this site, feel free to contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] All contents Copyright (c) 1995- Doctor's Guide Publishing Limited. All rights reserved. Employment opportunities | Partnering opportunities A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Action #14 - Thalidomide Never Left Us
In 1965, in Israel, while prescribing Thalidomide for it's intended purpose as a sedative, it was discovered that it was having beneficial effects on leprosy symptoms. The same process of deduction was occurring in Brazil, and the identified beneficial effects appeared to be many more. These happenstance connections begged for research by scientists. saba note: Here is a group of victims some thought would just go away and note here: It was Israel who has tried to push this drug for leprosy use and other uses, and maybe they will pass it on to the Palestinians in they have not already? So this Thalidomide is now a miracle drug for AIDS? Really? Imagine someone taking this drug and what about their partner - wouldn't it have some effect on the unsuspecting mother or father when their child was born with flippers instead of arms and legs? And now in New York and New Jersey they are pushing this stuff off on the public a designer drug for those with AIDS, Leprosy which is on the rise, and now cancer victims... England birth defects way up - what did they expect? Note - how many Lepors are in Israel? And remember this guy from Israel who threatenend the Palestinians with extinction by means of bioloical warfare that would only take out Palestinians but the idiot did not know Palestinians and Jews have same blood line? At least the semites or domestic jews and muslims are let us say, brothers and brothers in laws. OSaba TVAC's Position Regarding the Return of Thalidomide Thalidomide Never Left Us By Randy Warren, CEO The world is shocked in 1997 to hear of the return of Thalidomide, but more shocking is the fact that Thalidomide never left. Rather, Thalidomide became a deep dark secret relegated to testing and limited use in some countries, and apparently, widespread use occurred in Brazil. The full story may never be known, but what follows is what can be pieced together today. In 1965, in Israel, while prescribing Thalidomide for it's intended purpose as a sedative, it was discovered that it was having beneficial effects on leprosy symptoms. The same process of deduction was occurring in Brazil, and the identified beneficial effects appeared to be many more. These happenstance connections begged for research by scientists. What are the common denominators in conditions that Thalidomide appears to be beneficial? Thalidomide appears to display immunosuppressive activity, slows the body's production of a protein that fights infections and tumours, and stops new blood vessels from forming. Any conditions affected by any of these factors have potential for treatment by Thalidomide. Diseases that could benefit from Thalidomide use: AIDS, HIV, some cancers, and graft-versus-host disease to ulcers of the mouth, AIDS-related wasting syndrome, rheumatoid arthritis and leprosy. Many other conditions and diseases with similar symptoms could also be positively impacted by Thalidomide. Around the world, the widest use of 'thalidomide is in treating leprosy. In Canada, the treatment of graft-versus-host disease was the most popular use as of 1994. Due to the widely publicised babies being born disabled as a consequence of the drug Thalidomide, use went behind the scenes, but never disappeared. As more studies and testing occurred, Thalidomide regained respectability in scientific circles, and began the process of rehabilitation in medical circles. As more and more people began to suffer from new and old diseases, Thalidomide became an easier and more justifiable alternative. As Thalidomide use and testing increased, and as an old tragedy became new in Brazil, media suddenly caught the story and everyone thought Thalidomide had recently returned. Thalidomiders, and our parents never thought to ask the question: Is anyone still using Thalidomide? It never entered our minds as we were growing up, just living, or preoccupied with seeking compensation. The risk of new thalidomide babies has been there all along. Left unchecked and uncontrolled, hidden behind the scenes, Thalidomide could produce a new tragedy and history could repeat itself. Once the full story is uncovered we could discover that history continued on the same path all these years in Brazil. (IS THIS HAPPENING NOW IN THE UK AND WILL IT HAPPEN IN AMERICA AND ABOVE ALL ISRAEL PUSHED THIS CRAP.SABA NOTE) Rather than hiding Thalidomide again, never knowing whether the public is being properly alerted to side effects, and never knowing what may be happening to babies, TVAC must ensure that when Thalidomide is prescribed it is accompanied by full information, full disclosure, and is prescribed as a last resort in extreme cases, with every possible safeguard we can devise. It is wistful now to think of ourselves in terms of being the only generation... our purpose seems clear, preordained. Our legacy will be the protection of the public. 40 years have shown us our calling, not only to look after ourselves and those
[CTRL] Fwd: Online child porn ring busted
Wonder why Michael Jackson tries to make a comback . noted his new nose is grotesque. OSaba Onli Online child porn ring bustedDozens of kids allegedly molested; priests among 27 jailedBREAKING NEWS NBC NEWS WASHINGTON, March 18 At least 36 kids were molested by members of a nationwide Internet child pornography ring that was being shut down Monday by federal agents, law enforcement sources told NBC News. More than two dozen people were arrested, including a small number of Roman Catholic priests, they said. Details of the bust were to be made public at an FBI news conference scheduled for 3 p.m. ET. THE SOURCES, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that 27 people had been arrested in 26 states by early afternoon. A total of 86 charges were expected to be filed as a result of the investigation, they said. In addition to the priests, teachers, firemen and other professionals were among the suspects arrested, the sources said. Details of the bust dubbed Operation Candyman were to be made public by Bruce Gebhardt, head of the FBI's Criminal Investigation Division at a news conference scheduled for 3 p.m. ET. The use of the Internet to sell and trade child pornography has grown sharply in recent years. In 2001, the FBI's Crimes Against Children Unit opened 1,541 cases against people suspected of using the Internet to commit crimes involving child pornography or abuse, compared to 113 cases in 1996. The FBI had 20 employees devoted to cases involving Internet crimes against children in 1995, compared to about 150 agents now. Internet Underground: MSNBC.com covers the dark side of the Net The arrest of the priests was likely to add to the controversy swirling around recent allegations that a handful of church clergymen, including defrocked priest John Geoghan of Boston, were serial pedophiles. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops promised to discuss a comprehensive national response to the issue during the bishop's next meeting in June. Advertisement U.S. law-enforcement officials and experts on pedophilia generally agree that there is a link between child pornography and sexual abuse of children. The U.S. Postal Inspection Service said last year that 36 percent of child pornography investigations undertaken by its inspectors since 1997 led to child molesters. Check back for additional details on this breaking story. NBC Producer Jim Popkin and MSNBC.com's Mike Brunker contributed to this report. Yates' kin criticize her husband Supreme Court refuses Unabomber's appeal Thieves like Toyota Camry best Dog-attack trial: Down to last words MSNBC VIEWERS' TOP 10 Would you recommend this story to other viewers? not at all 1- 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 highly MSNBC is optimized for Microsoft Internet Explorer Windows Media Player MSNBC Terms, Conditions and Privacy © 2002 Cover | News | Business | Sports | Local News | Health | Technology | Living Travel TV News | Opinions | Weather | ComicsInformation Center | Help | News Tools | Jobs | Write Us | Terms Conditions | Privacy ---BeginMessage--- http://www.msnbc.com/news/725817.asp?pne=msntv ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Scientism Religious Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- Dr. Poley - what do you think about this Thalimonide back on market - causing birth defects. Babies born with virtually little wings? Like a step in the evolution of man was virtually wiped out. As George Wallace used to say, redbirds had redbirds, bluebirds have bluebirds, and no doubt bats have bats, and moles have moles for each of these species still exist. Now there are sitll lizards and reptiles and note we still have monkies. Always like that Darwin stuff and a line from Elmer Gantry - whereas Darwin said we descend from monkies yet the bible said man made in God's image. Blue eyed parents cannot produce a brown eyed child. Two blue eyed parents if I am correct and the mother has a brown eyed child, well - a miracle? OSaba And so blacks have blacks, white people produce white people - and black and white people turn out Whoopie Goldberg and Al Sharptons. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: BRITISH INTELLIGENCE IS GETTING WORRIED
---BeginMessage--- Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=18123 http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?#4071 More news here Rumor Mill News Reading Room Forum BRITISH INTELLIGENCE IS GETTING WORRIED Posted By: UselessEater Date: Friday, 15 March 2002, 5:41 a.m. British Intelligence mouthpiece The London Telegraph is reporting that 107 MPs, most but not all of them Labour, have signed a motion expressing deep unease about Tony Blairs willingness to support military action against Iraq. [1] The resistance to such military action is apparently growing stronger each day. In this report, Alice Mahon MP is qouted as saying, Briefings by ministers are pathetic - lightweight statements of belief with no facts. . Labour MP, George Galloway, is singled out for mud slinging. George Galloway is a vehement opponent to military action against Iraq and has understood the consequences of the unreported bombings and potential invasion of Iraq. He has recently been voicing his opposition to the current military action, and recently called Ben Bradshaw, the Foreign Office minister, a liar. In the above report, The Telegraph attempts to link Mr Galloway with Al-Qaeda. This is not the first time that such mud slinging has been tried on him. I have been writing to Mr Galloway, expressing my support for his efforts to stop military action. I have informed him of the information I have been finding on this board, and other websites, including EIR. This week I wrote him expressing my concerns that British Intelligence is trying to provoke what has been termed a clash of civilizations because their masters' financial empire is crumbling. I also informed him of the latest rumours regarding Flight 77 not flying into the Pentagon, and how this would explain the lack of response from Andrews Air Force Base. I told him that early reports from the Pentagon said a lorry had exploded there, and that this occurred next to the Navy wing. I informed him that the resistance to the New World Order resides in the US Navy. And now he is attacked in a British Intelligence newspaper. Coincidence? I think the dodgy British Intelligence dudes are getting nervous. Their plan is not working, and never will. When will they learn? There are six billion of us, and a few thousand of them. And to support this, an article in The Guardian today asks arms inspectors and military and foreign affairs experts; is Saddam as dangerous as the US makes out, and what would be the consequences of war? [2] The overwhelming response was; sorry lads, you ain't got a leg to stand on. And it won't work. The article contains a paragraph on Ben Bradshaw, mentioned above. The paragraph reads; Mr Bradshaw points out that Saddam has already used chemical weapons against Iran and against the Kurds of northern Iraq at Halabja, attacking and killing them with mustard gas and the nerve agent tabun. I wonder where he got the expertise and the chemicals from? Was it Great Britain and the USA? [1] 100 MPs back protest over strikes on Iraq http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/03/15/nirq1 5.xmlsSheet=/news/2002/03/15/ixnewstop.html [2] Iraq: the myth and the reality http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,667669,00.html Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg Rumor Mill News Reading Room Forum is maintained by Administrator with WebBBS 4.31. -- ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: ISRAEL'S 9-11 CONNECTION EXPOSED
---BeginMessage--- View Thread | Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=18065 Rumor Mill News Reading Room Forum ISRAEL'S 9-11 CONNECTION EXPOSED Posted By: Rayelan Date: Tuesday, 12 March 2002, 3:06 a.m. Hello Rayelan, You are welcome to post/republish any Information Times (InfoTimes) news or article in any of your Internet/Web forums and websites without making any changes or without editing the original text of the InfoTimes articles and news. Best Regards, SYED ADEEB Chief Editor www.InformationTimes.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InfoTimes ISRAEL'S 9-11 CONNECTION EXPOSED == Publisher: http://www.AntiWar.com - Behind the Headlines Friday, March 8, 2002 9-11: THE TRUTH COMES OUT http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j030802.html Israel's 9-11 Connection Exposed -- and you read it here first! by JUSTIN RAIMONDO In late November, the Washington Post ran a story that stopped me dead in my tracks: 60 Israelis on Tourist Visas Detained Since Sept. 11, but it was the subhead that really got my attention: Government Calls Several Cases 'of Special Interest,' Meaning Related to Post-Attacks Investigation. In addition to the 1000-plus Middle Easterners of the Muslim persuasion swept up in Ashcroft's post-9/11 dragnet, it seems, some 60 Israelis were in custody. And these were no ordinary tourists: INS officials testified in immigration court hearings that this group was of special interest to the government the same argument used to justify the detention of Arabs in connection with the investigation into 9/11. Shortly thereafter, in a column dated 11/28/01, I asked: What, exactly, is the meaning of this? Today, I am relieved to note, the rest of the media is finally catching up to Antiwar.com and asking the same question. THE ISRAELI ANGLE http://www.antiwar.com/rep/lemonde1.html While my own answer has developed over at least half a dozen subsequent columns, the core of my thesis has remained essentially unchanged. As I put it: As long as 60 Israeli citizens are being held under conditions of great secrecy in connection with the 9/11 investigation, it is no longer tenable to dismiss the possibility of an Israeli angle in this story. The Post story went on to describe the Israeli detainees as having served in special anti-terrorist and intelligence units. Something tells me these guys are no ordinary tourists, I averred. While we just don't know because of the secrecy surrounding the government's actions, I thought that the whole point of the Ashcroft round-up was not only to sweep up potential suspects but to gather information that could lead them to Al Qaeda's underground network in the US. Therefore, I theorized: It could be that the Israelis, or at least some of them, fall into this category: while not being directly involved, maybe they know something. Nothing else could account for the government's 'special interest.' A TRAIL OF CLUES http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/forget.html The suggestion of an Israeli connection to the events surrounding 9/11 did not spring, full blown, like Minerva from the head of Zeus. It had been hovering in the background, implied in odd accounts such as the one about the group of Israelis picked by the FBI after they were spotted in Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, laughing and giving each other high-fives as the World Trade Center burned on the other side of the river. In an astonishing story in the Bergen Record, we learn that 5 men described as Israeli tourists, were picked up 8 hours after the WTC attack, carrying maps linking them to the blasts. ...[S]ources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. 'There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted,' the source said. 'It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.' According to this account, the 5 tourists had been picked up by local police after receiving the following alert from the FBI: Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals. INSTANT MESSAGE http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/170583.html http://haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744 Then there was the story about the two employees of the Odigo Company, an Israeli-based instant-messaging software company, with New York offices in the vicinity of the WTC, who
[CTRL] Israel Setting America Up for the Kill????
Words of Ehud Bark in his plan for America: There will be some limitations on civil liberties, Mr. Barak said. But there is a need for government to go to this extreme. Then consider this despot's heels were already on the shore where we are now told by his new Texas Boss : So it seemed only fitting ? and eerily coincidental ? when EDS announced that it had hired Mr. Barak as a consultant just minutes before terrorists attacked the World Trade Center on Sept. 11. The Enemy is then permitted in the front door while his agents enter through the back - ever notice all those paintings, cheap copies around in your Federal and State Buildings?They are connected and have been since 1994 that I know for sure, with these trashy scavengers selling their wares while casing the joint.and hey maybe this stuff goes back to 1970? So Ehud Barak and this is not his real name, for he took this name out of Judges in The Bible, as Ariel Scheinman Sharon took his name, from Isaiah and each book has a story of devastation to this countryGideon Forces, Murrah Building and then - the Twin Towersthis excuse for a man Ehud Barak refused to take his shoes off at the New York Airport - he was excused, but an American General who had received the Congressional Medal of Honor was disgraced, stripped, his medal taken away and he was told it would be destroyed for junk and no doubt someone at this Waste Management dump who carted away the steel at the World Trade Center and sold it for big bucks - no doubt, garbage like that would have been on the recipients end of the bargain and the medal sold for big bucks I also remember when John Glenn's golden medals were stolen from him which were irreplacable.but then you see in this country today our MIlitias and Old Soldiers being demonized while these traitors have become so deeply entrenched in our security - this nation is to be torn apart - but never fear, Joe Lieberman will be okay - and Al Gore who married into the Schiff family? So please remember the Zionists own the democrat party today - for you see when a cheap hoodlum like Marc Rich and his floosie wife can buy off a President of the United States - for a pardon - well you see how corrupted this country has become with this evil influence.why is the ADL still tryiing to disarm this country while they are sending their god damned Israeli spies into this country - to terrorize this nation and do not think they have not placed maybe their little back pack bombs around this country while on one hand they then spread the rumour the Muslims have such weapons of mass destruction. The Israeli's had 88 little netron bomb back packs in 1985 of which I am aware. Want to see America turn into an al Aida Refugee Camp? Isn't it happening already? Look around you..the Rocker did and look what happened to him expresing his view for you see only a sodomist like Larry Flynt can freely express his views and distribute his pornography in the name of Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Speech while his accomplices - the ADL to which he launders a lot of dirty money, this organization has put Christians, Muslims, and Militias on the FBI Hate Hit List? REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY but then we are not to even speak of the USS Liberty when our men were murdered and napalmed by Isralie planes .consider the Lavon Affair - Egyptian Jews dressed like Muslims - bombing AMERICAN establishments to turn Americans against Egyptians? They are so stupid they got caughtso much for Israeli intelligence for the only intelligence they have, is what they stole from usnd still steal.ever wonder why Einstein worked in a patent office for such a long time ..theft of intellectual property and then we had the Rosenbergs, Jonathan Pollard, the KGB in our FBI and the Jewish Mafia headed by Lansky ordered the hit on JFK and hi brother. Remember those Israelis that got caught who cheered and screamed as the Twin Towers went down and the ones caught with their little box cutters.and oh yes, remember Larry Silverstein who had the lease on the Twin Towers and took out what will be best investment of his worothless life - terrorist insurance on the Twin Towers.7 billion dollars plus, oh yes the plus for building 7 World Trade Center where contrary to law and the orders of the Fire Department the illegal 6 thousand gallon fuel tanks were left behind when the Mayor then moved out of this building 2 weeks before the Fiery Flying Dragons struc the Towers? Is this a sign of what is going to happen to America..and strange, you see Israel does not want peace do they - they are like Hitler who wanted peace, a piece of France, a piece of Hungary, a piece of Palestine was that the real goal For Hitler worked well with the Zionists and one of his top dogs Rosenberg - well they later hanged that guy but Simon Weisenthal was still being smart and working with the Nazis too - the Chief Holocaust money grabber. Nice story
[CTRL] Maryland, the Green Fir Tree - the Mother State
Happy St. Patrick's Day You All...and remember St. Patrick carried the Fitzgerald Coat of Arms so do not say athere is not a Day for John Fitzgerald Kennedy (for my father was a Fitzgerald, a Neville, a Fleming an a Walsh) Here's to you all. (with few exceptions) OSaba Chairmana of the Board International Order of the Irish Mafia Don't Tread on Me you SOB ---BeginMessage--- http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/usa/thedespo.htm ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Fw: paddy ashdown's criminality
-Caveat Lector- Slobodan Milosevic is giving them all a good run for the TRUTH for the truth will set him free and then I hope he sues the bastards. Nobody is perfect - but today Yugoslavia is gone sold to the EU? So EU soon the drums will beat for War for they are doing what the Zionists and Hitler dared not due - uniting Europe under the boots of terror. OSaba Happy St. Patricks Day You All (with a few exceptions) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Senate panel OKs body-parts bill
Another nice reference to the body parts salesmen CRYOLITE, located in Georgia, and believe Alabama with Florida connections. So what was this Ghoul in Georgia doing with bodies piled high - but this grave with the body parts. so keep in mind the horrible Burke and Hare in England for songs were written about them. Mothers used to scare their kids with Burke and Hare. Now Gene Roddenberry's body was sent up into outerspace by these UFO nutsos along with Timothy Leary (Wynona Ryder's Godfather - who makes news now with shoplifting charges) - but dozen or so ashes of bodies were taken up into space, IT WAS ALLEGED in little bullet size capsules one of which was Leary and one of which was Roddenberry for you see this was a good selling point right? Better check thoses ashes for we have ghouls among us giving out packets of cement dust for the ashes of the loved ones..see the racket materializing. Now some of these body parts are contaminated and just yesterday a man died from knee transplant for you see theparts were hawked by CRYOLITEthe Georgia Alabama connection again. So who is getting wise now ..and what happened to the little girl with the blonde hair and blue eyes, the oh so pale little girl who no doubt died of a blood disease for she was so pale like a ghost - her body was picked up by your local Noble County Trashman professed undertaker - the Georgia Tri County Crematoriumher ashes were to be taken to the Dolphins for the little girl loved dolphins. But s...oh so quiet in Georgia as a gag order has been put in place and people still maintain was a kind and loving family this Nairobi Trio was, the Father, the Mother and the Son and toss in the other ghoul sister - that they had their hands on over 300 bodies - but this grave with body parts and they served Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee and the mother, this dear kind lady who also lived on what was known too as a pig farm - was Democrat County Chairman? And there is a gag order - where is little Carol Bechtol - the little girl with the oh so pale face in a white dress with the beautiful blonde hair and blue eyes Now if this guy gets enough notoriety maybe they can even sell the remains and ashes of the loved ones for profit for it is sure as hell that garbage down there in Georgia is capable of anything. Soon will they be casting lots for body parts? CRYOLITE - and what about the baby body parts this one ghoul wanted to grind through meat grinders for tissue but Cryolite - just lost a case here - a man died from a knee transplant you see the bodies carried diseases some worse than AIDS for it caused sudden death. The night they burned old Dixie down.look away Dixie Land. Maybe we can expect the return of the Old Line and Order? OSAba California Lottery Saturday, March 16, 2002 BACK TO INDEX Senate panel OKs body-parts bill INVESTIGATION: Mother testifies that tissue bank tricked her into donating son's body parts. June 15, 2000 By WILLIAM HEISEL The Orange County Register STILL MOURNING: Candace Stelle visits the grave site of her son, Jason Ryan Steele, in Loma Linda. Steele is suing a Riverside County tissue bank for using deceit to get her to donate Jason's heart. Photos by MICHAEL GOULDING/The Orange County Register CUT SHORT: This is the memorial marker of Jason Steele. SACRAMENTO - A bill that would boost the state health department's regulatory power over human tissue banks passed the Senate Health Committee Wednesday after a mother testified that she was duped by a hospital worker into donating her son's body parts to a fictitious recipient. The bill by Assemblyman Martin Gallegos, D-Baldwin Park, requires the state health department to review the financial dealings of California tissue banks and obligates tissue banks to tell donor families where their relatives' body parts are going. The measure was sent to the Senate Appropriations Committee. Candace Steele, an Apple Valley mother, is suing a Riverside County tissue bank and traveled to Sacramento to tell lawmakers her story. She lost her son, Jason, when he was 22 years old. He was a bodybuilder who worked with heavy equipment, listened to Christian rock music, and loved his dog, a Rottweiler named Conan. On a rainy day in November 1998, his truck slid out of control and crashed. He was dead by the time he arrived at the hospital. According to documents in her suit and interviews, Candace Steele said she got a call from Jim Oakes, a coordinator at the Inland Eye and Tissue Bank in Riverside, who asked if she would donate her son's body parts. She was hesitant. Oakes, she said, turned up the pressure. According to a deposition Oakes gave to Steele's attorneys, who are suing the tissue bank, Oakes told Steele a fictitious story. He said there was a mother who already had lost a son who was waiting to see if her second son's life would be spared by a heart transplant. Jason Steele's heart had stopped beating,
[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: SCANDAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE
Read all about it - Scandal in the White House and hey let's check out that Democrat Party in Georgia - the one where the familiy of Ghouls ran the Crematorium - a big time Tri State Crematorium service - only thing, it should be called Tri State Waste Disposoal..looks like this bunch big timed it under the Gore Clinton regime (my apologies Prudy - this was a sample though of influence peddling where the guys at the top take the rap for their undnerlings). OSaba ---BeginMessage--- Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:08 PM Subject: SCANDAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE SCANDAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE Certainly there is a political dimension here. Enron's chairman did meet with the president and the vice president in the Oval Office. Enron gave $420,000 to the president's party over three years. It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration festivities. The Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times. The corporation had access to the administration at its highest levels and even enlisted the Commerce and State Departments to grease deals for it. The taxpayer-supported Export-Import Bank subsidized Enron for more than $600 million in just one transaction. BUT...the president under whom all this happened wasn't George W. Bush. It was Bill Clinton ! ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fame Can't Excuse a Plagiarist
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/16/opinion/16MCTA.html?todaysheadlines A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Curbs on Sharon
-Caveat Lector- Think we ought to arm up the Palestinians. Further see what has happened - this Zionist element works day and night to disarm white America? In particular I should say white America? These Palestinians fight back one soul will take the lives of many soldiers - they are believers.now with big guns maybe Sharon and his hench - pardon me I mean Herr Woe to Ariel Scheinman Sharon maybe they would not have such big mouths as they march to slaughter more children. Strange you know real terrorists would have taken out the little flyspeck on map called Israel, not the Twin Towers for the root of the problem lay within this terrorist state Israel. Palestinians are defending their homeland only problem it is more fun for big brave Israelies to gun down unarmed women and children? And Perhaps, Just Perhaps.there is such as thing as Vengance is Mine - I will Repayfor surely it is coming to more payback time and the arabs have taken enough shit from these so called Israelis armed with guns and plans and tanks paid for by the USA. I do not like to contribute my tax dollars to Murder Inc. Time to Say NO NO NO More. Cut off this welfare state, this flyspeck on map called Israel. For you see - Zionism is Fascism is Commnism and now they try to disarm and tear down and by demolition teams destroy our country and all from within. Tell me what did Sadaam Hussein do to us that we should through the efforts primarily of the spying of Jonathan Pollar murder over a million Iraqi chidren but this blood trail leads to great flyspeck on map called Israel? Time for a change. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Chemtrails - Barium, Aluminum, Titanium CONFIRMED In Rainwater
Well yesterday there were Chemtrails only this time closer in - I advised my roofmen that the weather would now change and they saw these chemtrailsbut the Contractor said no we are to have nice weather next few days. My daffodiles previously had been lying on ground prostrate with grief and then yesterday the warm sun the weather was bright and like sunflowers they came to life and were blooming beautiful. And yesterday was beautiful day - but those contrails..then - suddenly, the weather temperature dropped and from spring to a cold damp day and the rain is cold, and once again my poor little daffodils are lying flat on ground, still blooming bright - but shocked in traumatic state from sudden change in weather. So there it is two classic examples of these big Xs in the sky - one to the left of me, and one to the right of me facing East.and I saw this time two planes. Like shiney silver bullets in the sky. The one to the left suddenly was making turn to go to the right and the other plane was continuing leaving DUAL lines or vapour or whatever you call that stuff. So X marks the spot and I am between but the birds are singing today, and have taken shelter in my huge bush outside kitchen window - red birds and a big white bird that - well we do not have pigeons in my yard, but this big white bird swooping in and out might have come in on some of these 70 mph winds we had after the last appearance of the contrails. So at least had few days of the golden flowers and little purple flowers on gorund and roses all my roses survived this mild winter and the gas company and electric company owe ME money but we had enogh water to fill up these underground areas, etc. So Wright Field to the left of me a 100 miles away (and my brother in law way back in 60 period refused offerof CO there and took Hills AFB as I recall - or Clark Field Co - but as I watch these planes in the sky I realize they are our planes..but if my daffodiles arenot revived by Monday morning, I am going to send them the bill. Death by Chemtrails But my birds are singing and all seems well. OSaba Colonel Tom Beardon where are you now that we need you? ---BeginMessage--- http://rense.com/general21/conf.htm begin 666 Chemtrails - Barium, Aluminum, Titanium CONFIRMED In Rainwater.url M6T1%1D%53%1=#0I05-%55),/6AT=' Z+R]R96YS92YC;VTO9V5N97)A;#(Q M+V-O;F8N:'1M#0H-EM);G1EFYE=%-H;W)T8W5T70T*55),/6AT=' Z+R]R M96YS92YC;VTO9V5N97)A;#(Q+V-O;F8N:'1M#0I-;V1I9FEE9#TT,#5,$4Q -0390T-#,3 Q0D,-`` ` end ---End Message---
[CTRL] Generation of Vipers
-Caveat Lector- It is strange, predators drooling over the boy scouts or even little cub scouts, an alleged preacher in Florida assaulting a you gay mail not quite of legal age, priests then held on 25 year old charges for assault on young boys, Michael Jacksons oh he is just a peodophile nothing to worry about and this misfit whose nose fell off like a Mark of Cain, is still trying to make a comback. Two homosexuals sodomize and rape, torture then murder a little 13 year old boy but it is not news worthy. One of many cases that go by - like a case here years ago did not merit news even when this man was murdered, for his family was such a nice family wealthy, who sodomized three little kids whom he fed well and bawled whe he got caught - the Judge told me the father had offered to hae his 43 year old son castrated if they would not send him to jail. the guy who murderd him along with these kids probably has AIDS for this man was wasting away before his death with this oh so strange new disease. Wonder what those little kids are like today - will they someday sue this family and take everything away - their property, which was considerable for the father was so influential and the sentence in jail was so minor - 30 days in jail? OSaba - You serpents, you generation of vipers, how can you escape the damnation of Hell?Jesus Christ re the Children Posted: March 14, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Sometimes what you don't say is as important as what you do say. In that vein, if you believe the media in America, then last year 92,700 men and boys in the U.S. were raped by women. Are you incredulous? Me, too. But I draw that conclusion because the national media has reported no homosexual rapes of men or boys last year. The crime statistic comes from a 1998 federal study, which also found 302,100 females raped in the same average year. (Cited in USA Today, Natural rape theory creates instant storm, by Dan Vergano, Jan. 18, 2000.) There was no lack of stories about these women, however. Go to any major news site and type rape into their search engine. Dozens or hundreds of stories appear; all cases of men raping women or girls. Is there even one story about men raping boys? In fact, I don't believe that 92,700 men and boys were raped last year by American women. I believe that the overwhelming majority were raped by homosexual men. Ho, hum, says the U.S. media. Don't bother us. We're busy. We have these water buckets we're carrying for NAMBLA. Those initials stand for the North American Man Boy Love Association. Their long-standing motto, sex before eight - or it's too late, only recently revised, makes their intent pretty clear. Homosexuals, as represented in the U.S. media, come in only two varieties: upstanding citizen and persecuted victim. Do homosexual priests rape choirboys? Not in medialand. There, Catholic priests abuse children - a phrase that's so gender-inclusive, and manages to twist one's attention onto the Catholic church, not the homosexual men who have made inroads into the clergy so they can prey on the innocence of children. Do homosexual pastors rape congregants? Not in medialand. There ministers are found with naked teens and charged with unlawful sex acts with a minor. Such inclusive language . my, isn't the media open-minded and progressive? We'd never guess it was male pastors and little boys, would we? No, homosexual pastors and priests are all victims of religious discrimination and the homophobia of parents not open-minded enough to want predatory homosexual men who commit rapes in this country to be preying on their 8-year-old children. Except the homosexual bucket-brigade in the U.S. media doesn't have time to tell us that. No, they're too busy getting homosexuals into our churches as pastors, into our schools as teachers and coaches, into Boy Scout troops as scoutmasters, and into every other major position of authority over children. The media is too busy raping the Christian church on its news pages, the Boy Scouts during its evening news broadcasts, and the military in its editorials and at its cocktail parties. No, Mom, Dad, Grandma and Grandpa don't warrant the truth, because it just might slow down the bucket brigade, and imply that homosexuals could possibly be, like the rest of us, just a smidgen short of sainthood. At this point I truly wish we could take a trip back in time to Joseph Goebbels' office in Nazi Germany. Don't you think the propaganda master would be astonished at the ideological bucket brigade the U.S. media has become? Oddly enough, I don't condemn homosexuals - they are in the grip of an incredibly powerful delusion and acting in what they believe are their own best interests. Unfortunately, their best interests do not coincide with the best interests of children, families and the next generation. No, my
Re: [CTRL] PseudoPsychic
-Caveat Lector- Well like this story and am reminded way back in 1969 when I filed a soothsaying with out license and practicing astrology charge without license against Jean Dixon which while it hit the fan, and she lost her divine status as well as had Ted Kennedy too late, direc her boss King Features to keep his name and famly;s name out of her column for you see this woman was dangerous for oshe was a poltical propagandist that had half this country waiting for a Kennedy to be killed and this is psychological warfare in its rankest form but what is worse, this woman had the backing of the Hearst family of all people. This is why I never really got too concerned about little Patty Hearst's kidnapping by the 7 Headed Family of Snakes called the Cinque Army? Ms. Cleo doesn't mark people for murder and if anyone couldn't spot that phoney accent for what it was - well at least she was not involved with Murder Inc. - might be involved in organized crime, but have never seen her in action and one day got a recorded message from her ..she it is alleged, is doing this for strictly entertainment purposes. Jeane Dixon was a pseudo religions political propagandist engaged in psychological warfare primarily against the Kennedy family - aim? To get them killed or rather prepare them for the kill where people would say oh I just knew that would happen, or I too had a dream our President was killed - or Bobby do not run, they will kill you . for see I said that, when I heard he would run for President.. Behind Jean Dixon - well the Lazaras family used the most powerful man in maybe Ohio at the time, to go to my boss and request I drop charges against this woman for you see she was afraid to come to our area because of this charge - can't having divine prophetess' ass carted off to jail, can you. One attorney called me to say she would not go on the Phil Donahue Show because of me, and Phil ended up entertaining his flock at the Hog Show going on at the Ohio State Fairbut he didn't seem too unhappy I would not back down..the Lazaras family, well Fred was CFR and they were of the Federated Stores and in our area went busto and sold out I guess but nobody much goes to Lazaras anymore. Just like K Mart - nobody seems to go there very much and golly gee Rosie O'Donnell was their spokesperson? So in paid commercials Ms. Cleon toots her own horn on how wonderful she isbut with Jean Dixon, she had newspapers portraying her as a divine prophetess in big headlines in our area Divine Prophetess here today and they had just buried Bobby and then this evil woman marked Teddy for murder as part of God'sPlan for the Kennedy family. Last I heard she was working or SUN a cheap Tabloid - and one thing that amazed me she was promoting Goldie Hawn for great things which was true for the mob takes care of its own - but for Marilyn Monroe she was predicting by innuendo deathto an already sick woman on drugs, in need of serious psychiatric help. so much for Ms. Cleo but I always thought it was rather strange that I was the only one in the USA who went after Jean Dixon..later however Columbia University printed a report how she really goofed on one prediction re Jackie Kennedy and her master's voice had to pull the stories nationwide before it hit the press..like Jimmy Hoffa, that story just disappeared too. Jamaican Shaman - anybody really believe that crap and that big phone accent? hey, she is a good actress in a sense.now that John Walker Lindh, with that phoney French Accent didn't run on my turf. The reign of the astrologers then ended when the psychics began marking Gerald Ford for accidents for fun, and lo and behold he fell down a flight of stairs leading from his plane, and Chevy Chase picked up on his clumsinessfor you see this is how psychic warfare begins.ad in particular when big plans already made to kill say a President - the psychics would be loosed upon them to set the stage for murder. Like Lee Harvey Oswald said when asked what he had in his package that day in Dallas Curtain Rods.for you see he had a rod okay, in form of a rifle and it was curtains, for JFK. Nobody reads between the lines, do they. Jean Dixon was so religious she said she read the 23rd psalm every day and three times a day - hey that old bat didn't know it, this woman who professed to be such a great Catholic - in the Douay Catholic version of the bible this psalm is the 22nd psalm due to the 10th as I recall being strickennot devout Catholic would use a King James Bible. Hey Jean Dixon was the Mob's Moll. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by
[CTRL] Fwd: Israel's Tactics Prompt a Fiery Disagreement in the Cabinet and Censure Abroad
So Neuropsychotic - can't tell the difference between lies and the truth? Maybe it is the way a truth is manipulated where a person says one thing and does another? Interesting item here in the Truth - note the reference to going over the cliff, falling into the abyss - the FOOL in the Tarot Cards but then this man obviously has already see the slaughter of the innocents and peole are getting sick of it? Is there a voice from RAMA or is it from El Aida Refugee Camp being heard throughout the world..even the military in Israel is sick of the slaughter. I am sick of Israel - the cost of their friendship has become a burden.and what do we get in return? Well they want more blood and more blood sacrifices only they made a mistake in thinking the Twin Towers would bring about the armageddon for which so many long. OSABA International-Africa-Americas-Asia Pacific-Europe-Middle EastNationalNation ChallengedPoliticsBusinessTechnologyScienceHealthSportsNew York RegionEducationWeatherObituariesNYT Front PageCorrectionsEditorials/Op-EdReaders' Opinions ArtsBooksMoviesTravelDining WineHome GardenFashion StyleNew York TodayCrossword/GamesCartoonsMagazineWeek in ReviewPhotosCollegeLearning NetworkArchiveClassifiedsNYT MobileNYT StoreE-Cards MoreAbout NYTDigitalJobs at NYTDigitalOnline Media KitOur AdvertisersYour Profile E-Mail Preferences News Tracker Premium Account Site Help Home Delivery Customer Service Electronic Edition Media KitText Version Welcome, sabaxxii March 14, 2002 WARTIME POLITICS Israel's Tactics Prompt a Fiery Disagreement in the Cabinet and Censure Abroad By JAMES BENNET Abbas Mommani/Agence France-Presse Palestinian men fought Israeli soldiers in the heart of Ramallah yesterday. Israel's aggressive tactics there brought disagreement in the government. Video: Israel Maintains Grip on Ramallah Israeli Offensive Is 'Not Helpful,' President Warns Sharon (March 14, 2002) The U.N.: U.S. Role in Resolution on Mideast Startles Some (March 14, 2002) Lebanon Front: Fatal Attack Shatters Israeli Border Town's Calm (March 14, 2002) The Offensive: After the Raid, a Slum's Assessment (March 14, 2002) The Casualties: Italian Photographer Is Killed Covering Israeli Incursion (March 14, 2002) Text: Resolution 1397 (March 14, 2002) Topics AlertsIsraelArmament, Defense and Military ForcesInternational RelationsPalestiniansCreate Your Own | Manage Alerts Take a Tour Sign Up for Newsletters Join a Moderated Discussion on the Middle East ERUSALEM, March 13 Israel's defense minister, Benjamin Ben- Eliezer, angrily threatened in a meeting of the country's top officials to resign today over the extent of the army's continuing invasion of the unofficial Palestinian capital, Ramallah, a senior Israeli official said. A large Israeli ground force continued today to trade shots with Palestinian gunmen scattered through Ramallah's streets. Three people an Italian journalist, a Palestinian colonel, and an Israeli lieutenant were killed. And a growing chorus of human rights groups and diplomats harshly criticized the Israeli Army, saying it was endangering civilians and interfering with care of the wounded. Terje Roed-Larsen, the United Nations envoy here, warned that the struggle had reached its lowest point. We have fallen off the edge, he said. We are in the abyss. Mr. Roed-Larsen's growing anger and disillusionment are said to have fed an unusually tough speech by Secretary General Kofi Annan on Tuesday in which he called Palestinian terror attacks morally repugnant and urged Israel to end its illegal occupation of Palestinian lands. Israeli officials defended the army's tactics and its overall mission as necessary to stop Palestinian terrorism. Scorning Mr. Ben-Eliezer's threat of resignation, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon proposed a cabinet vote on invasion tactics that the defense minister was sure to lose, the Israeli official said, confirming Israeli media reports. The dispute among Israel's leaders was ultimately resolved in a private talk between Mr. Ben-Eliezer and Mr. Sharon. But the eruption reflected the growing tension within the government, engaged in its broadest military offensive in 20 years while the Bush administration steps up efforts to secure a cease-fire in the spiraling conflict. There was almost a big political crisis, that almost broke the government up, said Meir Sheetrit, the minister of justice, who intervened in the fight to persuade the two men to speak privately. It was very stormy. It's stupid to make a political crisis in the middle of a war, he said. An associate of Mr. Ben-Eliezer who was not present at the meeting described the source of the argument as the army's tactics in Ramallah rather than the broader strategy of invading Palestinian cities and refugee camps. He suggested that Mr. Ben-Eliezer might not have threatened to resign but acknowledged that many words in anger were thrown in the air. Israeli radio reported that Mr. Sharon furiously
[CTRL] Suspect indicted in Pearls slaying
Find it most interesting this Rubaiya or Omar or whatever his name is - the mastermind if you can call him that of the murder and kidnapping of Dannny Pearl, seems very very concerned and fearful of his own life. Sort of the your life for mine stuff as he warns if taken to America he will bring disaster to this country. The suicide bombers, who believe they are dying for a cause, show no regrets in leaving this earth for a one way ticket to Paradise but this guy acts scared. He does not want to give his life for his country for he has no country. He is a criminal and no doubt a hired killer - a paid assassin. Note again this strange blue and white - the blanket tacked up in a hasty manner behind Danny Pearl in pictures where he ws held hostage this same shade of blue - same color as these Blue Berets, so somebody is still playing games. Further why is this man or its face hidden from us? Timothy McVeigh walked out in the orange jump suit like a man knowing he was going to his death and regretting he did not know about the nursery at the Murrah Building but this cowardly little creep this Rubaiya (note the name from the Rubaiyat) - he is scared crapless ranting and raving in attempt to instill fearif anything woul happen to him. Got news for him, for another Jack Ruby might one day walk up and exchang his life for his..for you see Jack Ruby used the bible calendar too?Shadrach, Mechenk, and Abenego..hired killers, for where there is a testament there must by necessity be the death of the testator. This guy should be protected by someone other than the Pakistani police for the police were in on the murder of Danny Pearl.color them blue. Not not blue - yellow perhaps. Big men takin videontape of Danny Pearl being murdered but now this man Rubaiya is worth more to someone dead, than alive A litle truth serum would proide many answers but this guys days are numbered. OSaba Susp Suspect indicted in Pearl's slaying Saeed charged with conspiracy, hostage-taking Policemen cover the mouth of Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh as he shouts at bystanders: Sell your dollars because America will be finished soon, Tuesday in Karachi. NBC NEWS AND NEWS SERVICES March 14 A federal grand jury in New Jersey on Thursday indicted a key suspect in the kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Islamic militant Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh was charged with hostage-taking and conspiracy to commit hostage-taking, resulting in the death of Pearl. A DECISION to press forward with an indictment caps weeks of deliberations within the Justice Department and State Department about how to proceed, even as Saeed faces criminal proceedings in Pakistan. U.S. officials, eager to move the case ahead, have been in discussions with Pakistani officials about prospects for sending Saeed and possibly others to the United States. SENT TO UNITED STATES? The two nations have no formal extradition agreement, but Pakistan previously has sent suspects to the United States under a procedure known as rendering. On Tuesday, a Pakistani judge gave the Islamabad government more time to build a case against Pearl's alleged attackers. As he left the court, Saeed shouted that America will be finished soon. LATEST DEVELOPMENTS THE WAR No fighting, few bodies in Afghan mop-up Bush: 'All options' open on nukes, Iraq Cheney offers Yemen aid Complete coverage THE HOME FRONT Bush orders probe of hijackers' visas Complete coverage Two of the four suspects, including Saeed, were brought to a Karachi court in an armored personnel carrier accompanied by eight or nine police vehicles. Their heads were covered by scarves as they entered for a pretrial hearing. Defense lawyers urged that the suspects be charged and a trial date set or they be released. But Judge Shabbir Ahmed agreed to a government request for more time to find Pearl's body, retrieve the murder weapon, complete interrogation and receive an FBI report on the grisly videotape that confirmed the journalist's death. During the closed-door session, the judge ordered Saeed and fellow suspect Sheikh Mohammed Adeel held for another 10 days, according to chief prosecutor Raja Quereshi. Another hearing is expected around March 22. Defense lawyer Khwaja Naveed said the extension was the last chance for police to finish questioning the suspects. Two other suspects are also in custody. Advertisement Washington wants the British-born Saeed extradited either under a 1931 treaty or by a simpler process adopted in previous cases between the two countries but Islamabad has said it would only consider extradition once his Pakistan trial was complete. SUSPECT MAKES THREATS According to chief prosecutor Quereshi, Saeed threatened during the closed-door proceedings that if he were sent to America, he would return here as he did from
[CTRL] Fwd: Art of William Hogarth - Four Stages of Cruelty - Reward of Cruelty
Hello Wyldmutt - here is a gruesome picture for youHogarth was Mason, Sgt. Painter to King George and I have many of his prints from original plates including the above and this is not the type you would want to hang in a parlour or living area. Four Stages of Cruelty, the Fourth States which you can pull up if interested, under subject matter below. Jack the Ripper it is alleged was a mason. Now I doubt very much he was one of the Dragoons or the Duke of Clarence but, it was said the Duke of Clarence died of a wasting disease and the men in Vicitoria's line, carried this hemophillia. Now we are getting into blood transfusions and what nots. But this one elegant Victorian King or Prince, picked up a strange sexually transmitted disease - therefore it could be some of these transfusions were used then. And Dr. Gall or Gull Victoria's doctor was at the hospital where some of these blood transfusion experiments were being held. First transfusion was blood from a sheep and yes, I assume it did not work. Most of the Ripper's victims seemed to be typical Irish/Englisth bloodtypes. But this wasting disease today they might call it AIDS. Anyway - some say Jack the Ripper was a Freemason to this day; I do not believe this to be true, unless he was an Agent of the Communist Party for Lenin's brother had just been executed by the Czar and all the King's men. The daughter of Victoria, was married to the Czar and hope my memory does not fail me here but the little boy, Alexi had hemophillia. So during the Ripper's time - we had Burke and Hare, notorious grave robbers and doctors doing all kinds of experiments. Hence the Fourth Stage of Crueltythe Reward of Cruelty and this scene best describes a masonic murder as in part of the rituals. The Ripper laughed once and in a note said oh you stupid jerks, in so many words, he had even given him the name of the next murder scene street (Was Mitre) and then the famous lines in the bible Barber get your Razorslaughterman get your weapon - but Barber Surgeons were in business in those days. So where does legal experimentation begin for without the doctors well how do you think they learned so much? Hogarth was a Mason - and this Hells Fire Club, they were Illuminati.most remained loyal to the King with a few exceptions . Freemasons come in many different colors and fly many different flags. One thing sure, Jack the Ripper was like a Charles Jesus Manson - maybe had some inside information re the masons, but do not think he was a mason.he was hired to do a job and he did it. Ezekial 23 and 24 gives preview of his murders.and as if this is not enough - consider you have a little bible calendar and the crimes committed on such dates, and the scene is created in real life, even unto the clipping of the ladies ears and noses, etc. This stuff is too gory for me.But you want to see picture of masonic ritual murder on the table - and Hogarth had to be mad at someone to do this - well here it is. In this day Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was Catholic, used to downgrade the masons - this man was a doctor, a writer, and once I thought he was the riopper for his father was in the local nut housewas a painter in his own right. Had all this stuff out today as my electricity has been off while work being done in my home. Thanks for the story on the Masons But remember their favorite color is plaid, for they come in many different colors and fly many different flags. Further, Saba sayeth naught. So much for - well this picture shows what happens also to those who break an oath. OSaba ---BeginMessage--- http://www.haleysteele.com/hogarth/plates/reward.html ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Raiding the Flock
-Caveat Lector- That is not Church down there; that is a front. I can imagine what fun it would be to run a check on this man, and I wonder if his church approves of sodomy? This man is no preacher. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] rumor has it danny boy...
-Caveat Lector- Well Danny Boy...let us say rumor might have it they are more afraid of you than you of them. Once I was told if I went to Washington DC to meet with Jimmy Hoffa as he had invited me (then he disappeared) - that I would be found shot to death, my throat cut, arms and legs broken, a suicide form a tall hotel building and the police would rule it suicide. In other words this stuff has the same old ring and is same old crap they hand out over and over...it is COP talk . I wondered about this Dekker story for I could not see where he came out of that so lily white; in fact, I do not believe this Mohammed Atta is dead for I think like Ishmael he alone escaped to tell the truth for you see these men can take half witted suicide bombers and get them hopped up on drugs and programmed to kill for Allah but these guys do not want to die.the conspiratoars are all alive and this Dekker might be he might be the one taken for a ride. However Danny Boy - once I was asked by this man in intelligence field what you mean you used your real name.why yes, I said because I am so obscure and besides they do not kill women do they? But that hey you got family, you got kids.that is a different manner. So get a pen name .. how far these people dare go I do not know.we on the Assassination Committee (Bud Fensterwalds, I had stuff going there) we were told we were safe so long as we could not be called as a witness in a court of law. And the police and the mafia work very well together. Do as Gordon Novel did - get an nsurance policy for if it were not for magic word EVERGREEN he no doubt would be dead and that guy knows more stuff than you would ever dream - even about money given to a big time judge in our area which Larry Flynt knew about big bucks. Just do not answer the door to the Jehovah witnesses or the Mormons who dress in black and travel in pairs, the Avon Lady (when you hear Avon calling, remember once was a day Rocky sent her) and above all run if you see the Fuller Brush man.And your local Lions Club with Insurance men who are members with Shriner Emblems and Masonic crap on one side on car windshiield, and Honorary Sheriff on other side. Now as for pots and pans.know what I had - first two big cans of RAID, a pesticide, and one of those big cans that make this horrible horn blowing sounds we used to hear at football games? For remember always they operate on the premise that the wicked fleeth when nobody pursuethunless you all are a witnesseth and if so hit the deck. Good Luck..and believe me when a Professor from Patterson State tells me the Mafia should be afraid of me - well - I felt better, until my sister when I told her said the Mafia afraid of You??? You got to be kidding..but in those days when I went out, by myself, I was a crowd. Also get a big friendly rotweiller and a pitbull..and do not let these cops and that is what this talk is - cops on the take - scare you. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News returns
-Caveat Lector- Deara Sonic Boom Rick: Just think Oh Great One - Oh Englightened One - this is one gentle reader who welcomes you back. Just like Home Again Rose - or who is that who always returns to the scene of his greatest crimes? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] XXIV. The Killing of the Divine King
-Caveat Lector- Boy after reading this stuff, that Bush better watch his step. And that Sharon - sure he is not dead and that is really a dead man walking taking revenge - he looks like a stuffed penguin. So as the Harvest Moon is sure to be, and the guns of Autumn is still a seasonal things when anything is fair game - let us say the Archer at this point has not yet taken his aim - but TOMORROW IS THE IDES OF MARCH. I wonder if all the leaders were murdered and then they do get the lawyers after they take out the senate - will we have peace in our time? For it shouldn't it be the public that cracks the whip over this stupid lazy lot of albatross? Just a thought Imagine, no more Chiefs, Just Indians - well maybe a Chief now and then whom we can sacrifice to the volanos from time to time to remind them who's the boss. El Bosso A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Der Fuhrer Mayor Bloomberg
Speer giving his first radio interview (sounding rather nervous) speaking about his designs for the Zepplin field. What was to become known later as his famous Cathedral of Light. Strange - when these two guys came up with the idea of the light memorial shortly after the WTC demise and demolition they should have given a credit line as to whom and what used these symbols quite effectively and it was the Architech Albert Speer who did same. Nor would they expect later Mayor Bloomberg would speak as Hitler once did at the feet of great lights memorializing the or a, Cathedral of Light. A holocaust was committed on the Twin Tower site - but what will always be remembered is Larry Silverstein with the new plans (when he even stole that idea from somebody else for they were plans submitted but not chosen for first World Trade Center) - anywyay it will always be remembered it was Larry Silverstein who the next day had the new plans on the drawing board waiting for his 7 billion dollar insurance policy to bear fruit. These lights are a nice memorial to Albert Speer - eerie, depressing, and a constant reminder to what has become known as The Silverstein Twin Towers Now all we need is to hear Amazing Grace played day and night until the people of New York cannot tolerate anymore of this holocaust. Meanwhile the firemen are still being brought up but had it not been for the firemen, these dead bodies would have been all dumped in the dumpsters which commenced the day they found the gold truck, retrieved the gold, which evidently was more precious than the remains of the dead firemen. A proper tribute to the World Trade Center would be to find out who took them out, cui bono, and who made the big bucks from their demise for we already knowo when it came to some of the money paid out, a janitor's life, or a secretary's life was not worth as much as one of those big time lawyersbut then looks like quite a few did not show up for work that day. OSaba Here you have the opportunity to hear Speer by a few wav-files. Please click below... speer1.wav (244 kB) From his first speech, as Minister of Armaments, held in a snowstorm. (The death march music for Todt has been dubbed in the background). (Music always added for propaganda purposessaba note) No matter how great our grief is, (Speer is referring to the death of Todt) the Fuhrers grief is greater. Through our unceasing work, let us ease his pain. The success of our work is crucial to Germany's victory. I have vowed to the Fuhrer to devote my strength to this end. speer2.wav (207 kB) Speer giving his first radio interview (sounding rather nervous) speaking about his designs for the Zepplin field. What was to become known later as his famous Cathedral of Light. We have come to the conclusion that with a field of length 1000 metres, we need to design the stage from which the Fuhrer will speak in a way that makes him look particularly impressive to everyone at the rally. speer3.wav (259 kB) A speech from late 1942 (?) Speer is saying how despite heavy losses, due to allied bombing, production has increased from month to month to make sure front line troops have the weapons they need. speer4.wav (409 kB) Speer's speech to the conference at Posen. Given on the morning before Himmler's infamous speech regarding the Final solution to the Jewish Problem. (Speer left following his own speech.) The exact translation is printed in Gitta Sereny's book Albert Speer His Battle With Truth. In this excerpt Speer says that any districts not complying with his directives will be dealt with severely by Reichsmarshall Himmler. speer5.wav (423 kB) Speer's speech from a Hamburg radio station on May 3rd 1945. The text of which is also printed in Ms. Serenys book. This section includes : The German people in this war. .God Save Germany. ---BeginMessage--- http://www.dataphone.se/~ms/speer/sounds.htm ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Story of the Maps
-Caveat Lector- I am more interested in why the King James Bible in Joel - why Palestine was stricken out of the book, rather like blotting someone's name out of the book - right? Masonic stuff or what? Who permitted this one and last reference to be taken out of the King James Bible? Maps I have of Palestine - one is nearly 200 years old - all borders show clearly. So the genocide has really begun in Israel and we see who and what was really behind Hitler, right? For he did work well with the Zionists to pave the roads to Israel. And to think, at first Herzi wanted UGANDA.Tell me do you think the people of Uganda might have objected for today we see churches being burned, people being locked into churches and burned alive - maybe something like the Twin Towers that day - where the innocents fell from the Falling Towers. So whose Master Plan is this? Don't we really know what is over the hill and from where this rotten to the core bunch operates? Spokes for a Wheel? Many Domes but only one rock. Well at last Israel is receiving due recognition for it is about to become most loathesome country in world. Maybe when the pipeline is finished in Afghanistan Israel will not be afforded much more attention? Is this really what it is about and why Israeli sabotuers operate over the world . So Remember the USS Liberty this Easter..no memorial to them is there? No memorial to WWII Veterans either who died for their constitution along with 55 million others plus.' The Holocaust of the USS Liberty wil NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.perhaps a statute of Israeli planes and the napalming of our wounded lying on deck dying - perhaps this would be a most impressive monument to our dear friend, Israel. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Slaughterman Cometh: Gaza raid, civilians killed too
Al Q'aida - wonder how the Aida Refugee Camp was given its name..RACHE RACHE RACHE - vengance was the call of over 1,000 mourners when the body of a 14 yeara old kid was buried .this was April 2000 this call was heard. Slaughter of more innocents. What wer the words again Timothy McVeigh circled in the Gideon Bible - Wrath of God.and like a Samson, he took out the Murrah Building while the news media screamed mideast terrorists did it.only mideast terrorists in this country are of questionable origin. OSaba Duri During Gaza raid, civilians killed tooSome slain without apparent provocation; families enragedBy Lee Hockstader THE WASHINGTON POST GAZA CITY, March 12 As Israeli forces rumbled close to his house, 54-year-old Abdul Rahman Izzadin headed up the stairs and called down to his wife, children and grandchildren to stay indoors. Those were the last words they heard him say. Jabalya has a long, bitter history of fighting the Jews. Fifteen years ago, it was where the first intifada, or Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation, erupted. AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, as he reached to close the metal door leading to the rooftop, he was shot three times in the ear, neck and cheek and killed instantly, apparently by an Israeli sniper on the roof of an adjacent house that neighbors said the army had commandeered. Moments later, when Izzadin's 36-year-old son Walid rushed to his father's aid, he, too, was shot to death. It is not known why they were fired upon. The Izzadins, killed as Israel invaded the Gaza Strip's Jabalya refugee camp late Monday, were buried today. Weeping family members accused Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of terrorism, and called him a beast. Oh, my son, my son, my beloved son! sobbed Abdul Rahman's widow and Walid's mother tears streaming down her cheeks. Her enraged daughters and daughters-in-law grabbed the two men's bloodstained clothes from a plastic sack and held them out to foreign visitors, as if demanding an explanation. EXACTED A HEAVY TOLL Massive Israeli force enters Ramallah Special report: War and peace in the Mideast The Israeli invasion of Jabalya lasted just three hours, from 10:30 p.m. Monday to 1:30 this morning, but it exacted a heavy toll. Eighteen Palestinians, some of whom tried to fight back, were killed in the raid. Several dozen were wounded, including gunmen as well paunchy middle-aged tailors and construction workers who were shot in their homes for no apparent reason. There were no Israeli casualties. Few places in the Middle East are as poor, overcrowded, desperate and radicalized as Jabalya, a teeming camp of 100,000 that is fertile ground for the Islamic Resistance Movement, known as Hamas, which has carried out suicide bombings and other attacks on Israelis. Israeli officials say they attacked Jabalya in self-defense. At the camp's edge, troops blew up four metal workshops, which Israel says were used to make mortars and rockets that have been fired at Israeli communities inside and beyond the Gaza Strip. We had to guard our civilians, a senior Israeli security official said today. If our people are being shelled, we have to prevent this. But in the camp, where most of the men are jobless and thousands of children scamper barefoot amid open sewage and broken sidewalks and streets of sand, the attack was not a defeat. It prompted calls for revenge. Hey, Jews, you cowards! announces a typical bit of wall graffiti in Jabalya. We swear we'll answer your aggression. Just wait. LONG, BITTER HISTORY Advertisement Jabalya has a long, bitter history of fighting the Jews. Fifteen years ago, it was where the first intifada, or Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation, erupted. The Israelis finally pulled out of the camp in 1994, under the Oslo peace agreement, but they did not go far. Israeli troops and army bases remained inside the Gaza Strip within a couple of miles of Jabalya and within easy striking distance, as the camp's residents were reminded Monday. With little warning, the tanks and armored vehicles streamed toward Jabalya from the north. Helicopter gunships roared overhead. The electricity was cut and phone service collapsed in most areas. Word that the army was approaching raced through Jabalya's warren of narrow alleyways and trash-choked streets, and hundreds of the camp's young militants, armed and unarmed, raced south toward Gaza City to escape by car and on foot. Many headed for the main hospital, calculating that it was unlikely to be hit by the Israelis. Latest Mideast news WSJ: Palestinian advantage NBC exclusive: Al-Aqsa militants emerge Newsweek: Saudi plan NBC analysis: Chances for the Saudi plan? Brian Williams: Modest hopes, high anxiety WashPost coverage America strikes back At least some militants stayed to fight, and fared poorly. One
Re: [CTRL] Rosie: 'I Am Gay Parent'; Invites Bush to Spend Weekend :-)
-Caveat Lector- So Rose should take that picture of the then 2 year old who had her front teeth knocked out, and who was oh so accident prone but Rosie would tell us about their accidents...this little 2 year old accidently hit her little nose damaging same, blood, etc., while trying to open a can of legos. And then the night the police was called because of a child's scream in the night - the neighbors were concerned but Rosie just told the Police I am Rosie O'Donnell and am a foster mother Later the one child was removed from her home but all her neighbors, were talking because at the time unknown to the public in general she had her lesbian paramour living in with her and the kids. Paula Poundstone her counterpart who also tried to work herself into the Kids shows, like Sesame Street and played elves with this Rob Reiner's wife in TV commercials - Paula got caught and had it not been for 911, she would not have gotten off so light but then this pig ended up in the slammer anyway. It was Paula Poundstone who said she always checked the sodomy laws before she would go into any state.well now I can see why .so sodomy in some states no longer illegal but some of these wonderful stories such as these two queers who murdered a 14 year old and got caught - oh must keep this oh so quiet for we do not want the public to get a rope and hang the bastards do we. So Rosie just lost another kid.the Court would not let her adopt this one child and there she sat looking like a pig minus an apple in her mouth, playing Mother with her little blonde friend - each holding a child. Hey we got a guy like that once in our town, and I am the one who got him..later I saw this creep and he was sufering from a wasting disease - he looked decadent - he was in like Flynt with the mob too..then one day and this was in the time frame AIDS was announced, his paramour live in boyfriend murdered him..nobody cared.and I often wonder those three little kids he took in ages 5 and 9, etcwhether they too have AIDS today. He virtually bought them from an alcoholic father. Latest trend, rightlike little Michael Jackson but the mark of Cain put upon him for his nose fell off.. So Rosie and Paula Poundstone bet they both double check the sodomy laws now before they move ino a state an I bet K Mart rues the day they ever had that this mother on their payroll. Oh yes, her other cause was taking away guns from the public while she armed her bodyguards.think they could find a bodyguard who would dodge a bullet met for her? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] INC News Center - 11/12/2001: Bin Laden-Saddam nuclear pact?
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[CTRL] Fwd: Who Benefits from the World Trade Center/Pentagon Attacks?
Note this DEBKA news again revealing US secrets but also lies for the Israelis are the ones with these little nuclear back packs and note, while an American General who received the Congressional Medal of Honor was searched, stripped, and agents were going to take his Medal from him for scrap - but Ehud Barak free to travel as he pleases with base operation in Texas - the phone company again. NOTE: Debka File claims to have military intelligencne' sources but they are not USA sources, they are the enemy within - MOSSAD sources, and by their own admission their military intelligence information serves a dual purpose. First it creates problems with Arab Nations - they are hell bent on having Iraq destroyed. Second note always with DEBKA it is sources say this, sources say that - when it is double dealing two faced Israelis doing the double dealing. Interesting item..and then consider DEBKA an Israeli garbage sheet - reveals troop locations and maybe it has gone by unnoticed but when these locations are published - our Special Forces are attacked. Israels have 80 some nuclear backpacks.triggers everything necessaryhow east for the Israels to plant a few of these little bombs to cause chaos and blame it once again on the Muslims - the Arab Nations. But to be rational about this and see the truth - what the hell would these big rich Arab Nations, all that oil, gold rubies, pearls, diamonds - what the hell would they want with this state of Israel? Only Palestinians have any use for the stones. Just like Vietnam when the UFO nutz reported UFOs over George and Alabama, like stars picked up by newspaper and Vietkong knew and targeted date and time of their return. OSaba Who Benefits from the World Trade Center/Pentagon Attacks? Who Benefits? That's always the first question to consider when a terrorist attack occurs. Instead of clenching one's fist, waving one's flag and shouting vindictive slogans, let's just stop for a moment of calm analysis of the basic facts. When we analyze who benefits, we immediately will know with over 99% surety, who did it! What was the tone of U.S. and world opinion just a week or two before the attacks? In the U.S., the economy was lagging badly, the stock market was falling, many were questioning if the government's taxes were legal, the Gary Condit case had been poorly handled, people continued to question Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing, they questioned our support of Israel in her policies regarding the Palestinians, and the approval rate of President Bush was low. What about World Opinion? Just 8 days before the WTC/Pentagon attacks, Israel was stunned by a UN decision equating Zionism with Racism, according to Ha'aretz Daily.com. Israel was branded a racist apartheid state by thousands of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) attending a U.N. World Conference Against Racism in Durban, South Africa. The conference was attended by representatives of 153 governments. The declaration, adopted by 3,000 NGOs in 44 regional and interest-based caucuses, shocked Jewish groups. Foreign Minister Shimon Peres called the anti-Israel declarations a disgrace, and said that Israel was seriously contemplating withdrawing from the conference in protest. The Israeli delegation to the conference blasted the language of the NGO declaration as an incitement to hatred of Jews. Jewish delegates walked out. The U.S. delegates followed. The Forum accused the Jewish state of systematic perpetration of racist crimes including war crimes, acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing in its treatment of the Palestinians. In addition, the head of the Danish Red Cross, Freddy Karup Pederson, told the Danish Parliamentary Foreign Affairs Committee that the lifestyle of Jewish settlers in the Palestinian territories resembles that of whites under the former racist apartheid system. He also criticized Israel's collective punishment of the Palestinian population. There is NO doubt that Israel is a racist state. Its own human-rights advocates call it that. The laws of the state of Israel allow a Jew anywhere in the world to become a citizen of Israel, but a Palestinian driven out of his own country, deprived of his home and all his possessions in 1948, cannot return. There are certain neighborhoods in Israel where a Palestinian cannot be issued a building permit, nor have the opportunity to buy or rent a home. Wouldn't the ACLU scream racism if those laws were applied to the Jews - or to the Blacks - in this country. The U.S. Was Set to Support Palestinian Statehood! The Bush administration planned to promote and support the recognition of a Palestinian state in a speech to be given by Secretary Colin L. Powell, but the plan was derailed by the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, according on the Washington Post, Oct 2, 2001. Powell had planned to discuss the initiative with Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi ambassador to the United States on Sept. 13!
[CTRL] This This Guy is Really a Moslem???
Think this guy is really a Moslem and oh so many names. Now for whom, does this creep work? Why is he so afraid to be shipped off to America? He maintains he will return the same way he would be sent here - sounds familiar, right? This guy is no Muslim - this guy is just a hired killer like the others. Now who kills in such a manner and who executes judgment in such a manner. Somehow I imagine Johnny Rosselli found in an oil drum off the coast of Florida, legs chopped off he was custom fit to the barrel. He was to testify before the Assassination committee - now Hoffa's body never was found, but Rosselli' surfaced. But this man is AFRAID to come to America. Why? He has a big mouth but even these poor programmed suicide bombes do not scream and yell - for you see this man, this guy who used code name Rubaiya (righth out of Rubaiyat) will be exposed for what he is. But then it seems, have we as of late known anything good to come out of England or Israel? These two deserve each other - we do not. And as for the TwinTowers? Well Danny Pearl was the sacrificial lamb.ritual murder Hollywood style..strange not one person not one Jew came forward and offered to pay his ransom. Not one. The so powerful Wall Street Journal and Dow - not one dimefor nobody bought Danny Pearl. Osama bin Laden pulled off the Twin Tower's Job? Just ask - cui bono, cui bono, cui bono? This man whom they call the mastermaind looks like a fag or cross dresser when you take good look at him but note ohis photographs have been touoched upon and we are not permitted to see his face.and then we have John Walker Lindh with his phoney french accent and of course this Reid - what the hell he is is something straight out of the nut house...saba note) OSaba Country Sites|Professional Products|About Reuters HOMENEWSMARKETSQUOTES SEARCH SymbolCompanyKeyword Top NewsWorldBusinessInternetTechnologyScienceSportsEntertainmentOddly EnoughPoliticsHealth Pearl Kidnap Suspect Remanded, Threatens U.S. March 12, 2002 07:34 AM ET Email this articlePrinter friendly version Reuters PhotoBy Aamir Ashraf KARACHI, Pakistan (Reuters) - The suspected mastermind of the kidnapping of American reporter Daniel Pearl threatened on Tuesday to make the United States pay dearly if he was extradited from Pakistan to face charges. British-born militant Ahmed Saeed Omar Sheikh, commonly known as Sheikh Omar, had to be gagged by police as he emerged from a Pakistan remand court shouting Allahu Akbar and Down with America. (What a bunch of crap here - whoever is picking up this guy's tab should come up with something that is not so obviously overdone.seems like he takes the fall but will he lay himself doon and dee for his henchmen? saba note) Omar is accused by Pakistani authorities of organizing the kidnapping of Pearl in January while The World Street Journal reporter was researching a story on Islamic militants. Although his body has never been found, his kidnappers released a graphic video showing Pearl being murdered. Washington wants Omar extradited to face charges in the U.S., but Islamabad has said it will only consider the move once any Pakistan trial was complete. A defiant Omar threatened to make the United States pay if that happened. Omar told the judge that if he is sent to the U.S., then he will return back in the same way as he was returned from India, Raja Qureshi, advocate-general for Sindh province, told reporters in the provincial capital Karachi. (Note the double talk here - the guy is sending message - saba note) He told the judge that America would suffer if he is extradited. Sheikh Omar was freed from an Indian prison in 1999 along with two other Islamic militants in exchange for the passengers of an Indian airliner hijacked to the southern Afghan city of Kandahar. Tuesday, the Karachi court remanded Sheikh Omar and another suspect, Sheikh Adil, in police custody for a further 10 days. The two men are among four suspects being held in connection with the case. The judge had granted further remand until March 22 and told the prosecutors that it is the last remand he will grant, Khawaja Naveed, the defense lawyer said. As he left the court under heavy security, Sheikh Omar shouted Allahu Akbar (God is Greatest) and Down with America. Police then gagged him and forced him toward an armored personnel carrier. Sheikh Adil, Salman Saquib and Fahad Naseem are accused of sending two email messages in January containing photographs of Pearl being held hostage. LINKS TO PAST KIDNAPPING Police had earlier said they expected all four men to be formally charged with involvement in the case, but Qureshi said he was seeking a further remand to gather more evidence. Further investigation is required ... and expert evidence from the (FBI) is also to be secured, Qureshi said. The dead body and its remains are also to be secured. Weapons of offence are also required to be secured
Re: [CTRL] This This Guy is Really a Moslem???
-Caveat Lector- so Mermaid will try to find picture later today - have men working in my home today installing new bathroom and the works, but this one kid stands down the hall and reads my TV screen - for this comes up on 27 inch screen. The one man is a Mason or was - and told me not to worry about such thing as we are all in God's hands now..I say, so many former Masons - who are in long enough to find out what the hell is going? So In George Bush We Trust, for what else do we have. Now Tony Blair - my goodness get rid of that creep. Anyway when they leave will try to find - have searched many many sites the picture gone for now. Some came up empty story no picture. It was the one showing this fat faced creep wearing the overdone glasses - he had a strange look of a woman and when he goes to Court he has bad over his head usually for like a woman wearing veil he conceals his face - may be too many people would know who he is and come forth? Further he is dropping bible calendar code stuff like mad for the entire kidnapping was geared about certain bible passasges, the worst I will reprint here.this it has look of a eunuch or a cross dresser.think he is rather an exhalted paranoid type and things he is the IMAM or some other reincarnation or incarnation of a messiah type figure. He is a hoodlum, a blackmailer, a kidnapper, a murderer - and one who loves to inflict pain. He is no mastermind - he is one of the many who think they are immune from the law and so what is behind him that he has this feeling? Only a very complicated intelligence system would produce such a man. Here is gruesome scene timed to approximate death of Danny Pearl - for nobody would ransom him nobody. They said in the pictures of his murder, he appeared to be sleeping and there was blood on his jacket indicated a stomach wound, done no doubt by knife.he was then decapitated and the press reported that his body was dumped in a cemetary.. This stuff is gruesome, but here we have the man sleeping as was Danny, we have him wounded with a knife before he is killed, and we have his body to be dumped into a cemetary...it was his death scene and it was timed to this Gideon Calendar which the killers use and this is heavy International MAfia stuff. Too gruesome, so I too must get away from this for awhile. To traumatize a nation - with crimes so horrible but no longer can we be protected from such things. OSaba The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia 2 Samuel, chapter 4 5: And the sons of Rimmon the Beerothite, Rechab and Baanah, went, and came about the heat of the day to the house of Ish-bosheth, who lay on a bed at noon. 6: And they came thither into the midst of the house, as though they would have fetched wheat; and they smote him under the fifth rib: and Rechab and Baanah his brother escaped. 7: For when they came into the house, he lay on his bed in his bedchamber, and they smote him, and slew him, and beheaded him, and took his head, and gat them away through the plain all night. 8: And they brought the head of Ish-bosheth unto David to Hebron, and said to the king, Behold the head of Ish-bosheth the son of Saul thine enemy, which sought thy life; and the LORD hath avenged my lord the king this day of Saul, and of his seed. 11: How much more, when wicked men have slain a righteous person in his own house upon his bed? shall I not therefore now require his blood of your hand, and take you away from the earth? 12: And David commanded his young men, and they slew them, and cut off their hands and their feet, and hanged them up over the pool in Hebron. But they took the head of Ish-bosheth, and buried it in the sepulchre of Abner in Hebron. So, Tales from the Darkside - with a little revision you see the picture. These men are hopped up on drugs, like old Assassinsbut this Rubaiya as he once called himself is not about to suicide or self destruct for a cause for he is a hired killer, he is not like those programmed to kill for a cause who will be taken to paradise. This man fears going to the United States and if I had my way, I would put this guy on a plane, remote controlled, and dive it into the nearest volcano. End of problem, of Rubaiya - and make it look like an accident. So you see this guy wants to go back same way he was sent to USA? Okay with me - only one way trip. England as did America - doors opened and now we have the enemy within - as the Rocker said he took a look and he was in a land of strangers and all set to destroy from within.but the big boys will have plenty of bit time insurance. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright
[CTRL] Was Jesus an Arab Muslim Killed by the Jews?
-Caveat Lector-
John, chapter 8
Jesus Said Unto the Jews:
44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the
truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
The following story presents a pretty good argument, but then Jesus at
Isaiah 60 blew off the Old Testament and this Chosen People Crap.
Tell me is Israel still trying to force the USA into doing more of their
dirty work - are they still pushing for war with Iraq and do they have
any more USS Liberty's to bomb and we are to turn the other cheek?
Remember the Liberty as Easter approaches - these men on the Liberty
were napalmed when lying on he deck some dying and others dead while
Israeli planes tried to burn them all alive.
These are our friends Israel? Jesus Christ knew what they were like -
and the jew Judas who planted the kiss of death - 30 pieces of silver
was a lot of money in those days . tell me is there a Shrine or a
tax free foundation for the men who were murdered in cold blood on the
USS Liberty? And the World Trade Center will it be called in the
future The Silverstein Buildings? Well 7 billion dollas in insurance
money is a lot of money for leasing air space .
No way Jesus Christ was a Jew. No Way .
Saba
Was Jesus an Arab Muslim ?
A Muslim is some one who Submits Their Will to God. This Is What Jesus
Did and Taught.
Son of God is a figure of speech which many other Prophets were labeled
as for example; in the King James Version of the Bible
(Psalms 2:7) David is the begotten Son of God.
Many others in the Bible are called God's son;
Jacob God's firstborn son (Exodus 4:22)
Solomon is God's son (2 Samuel 7:13-14)
Ephraim is God's firstborn son (Jeremiah 31:9)
Adam is the son of God (Luke 3:38)
Other Prophets were Labeled as Messiah for example {1 Samuel 15:17}
Which in Hebrew means Anointed/Chosen/Prophet;
Solomon (1 Kings 1:39)
David (1 Samuel 16:13)
Jewish priests (Leviticus 4)
Other Prophets Preformed similar
Miracles as Jesus ;
Ezekiel raised many from the dead (Ezekiel 37:1-9)
Joshua stopped the sun and moon for one whole day (Joshua 10:12-13)
Elisha raised the dead, resurrected himself, healed a leper, fed a
hundred people with twenty barley loaves and a few ears of corn, and
healed a blind man: (2 Kings 4:35, 13:21, 5:14, 4:44, and 6:11.)
Elijah raised the dead (1 Kings 17:22 and 14.)
Other Prophets were filled with the Holy Ghost;
Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost (Luke 1:67)
Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost (Luke 1:41)
Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost (Acts 4:8)
Paul, filled with the Holy Ghost (Acts 13:9)
Many other Prophets were called Lord for example;
Abraham (Genesis 18:12)
Esau (Genesis 32:4)
Joseph (Genesis 44:20)
David (1 Samuel 25:24)
Jesus taught to rinse before Praying as
Muslims do {John 13:10}
Jesus bowed down in Submission on the Ground to God as Muslims do
{Matthew 26:39}
Jesus said, all of You who Submit your will to God, are my true Brothers
and Sisters (Mark 3:31-35) as Muslims do
Jesus taught Salvation comes from Submitting your will to God and Faith
as Muslims do .
(Matthew 7:21-23) Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter
the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is
in heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in
your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?
Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you
evildoers!'
In conclusion, Jesus was neither a Jew nor a Christian, Lets see where
the name Jew comes from. {Gen 11:31} we see that Abraham took his family
out of his home land Ur of the Chaldees
Therefore, Abraham could not have been a Jew because that is a part of
Iraq. He was more an Arab than a Jew. Secondly, the name Jew came after
the existence of Judah, the great-grandson of Abraham.
Abraham in the Bible is called a Hebrew {Genesis 14:13} which means a
human from the other side of the Euphrates. It also means pertaining to
Eber a descendant of Shem, clearly not a Jew.
The descendants of Jacob were called Israelites {Gen 32:28} consisting
of twelve tribes. Judah was nicknamed Jew so that only Judah's
descendants were called Jews originally.
Moses, was from the tribe Levite {Exodus 6:16-20} therefore also not a
Jew. The name Jew {according to the Bible} is not a reflection of an
organized religion as you put it, but a Tribe, a fore name, an ancestor
branch off of a large family tree.
Jesus may have been a Jew by birth right, but a Muslim by Faith.
Copyright (c) 1998 Mohamed Ghounem Abdur Rahman
Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful
preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious:
for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who
receive guidance. Quran 16:125
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Re: [CTRL] This This Guy is Really a Moslem???
-Caveat Lector- And I suppose Neuropsychotic wearing your fish net shirts does not make you a fag either? OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Light Show Stirs Dark Memories
Thought it strange this Mayor Bloomberg chose today to light up the World Trade Center site - 5 more bodies of dead firemen were taken from the ground. Albert Speer in his Diary, might add, makes reference to the watchword Bible Calendar the Baron had which the Communist guard took from him claiming it was codedreallywho ever would have thought and I wonder, where this man got this calendar. Regardless it was Albert Speer who lit up German with his Cathedral of Lightmany pictures of this and it was a sight to behold in fact looking at the Twin Towers lights tonight - I thought shades of Albert Speer - He's Back. Normally one celebrates a birthday - not like some say the want to celebrate the day Martin Luther King was killed rather than day he was born.this Twin Tower Lights what kind of a celebration is this - to a death and not a rebirth? Albert Speer was a great architect - but his Cathedral of Light was something for which he will long be remembered. Strange though that Bloomberg would light up this light on a day of death for it is more of a memorial to Albert Speer than to the nearly 3,000 who died that day - the sitting ducks in the tower. Wonder who those two guys were who thought this upfor the Twin Towers.were they maybe thinking of Speer that day? Sppers work with lights was something to beholdlater after he left Spandau (where Trithemius is alleged to come up with a bible calendar code) Speer visited Washington DC while von Braun was working on beating Russia to the Moon which he did. Had he gone to the Russians, well maybe we would be sining Russia My Native Land? Saba Light Show Stirs Dark Memories by Steve Kettm Light Show Stirs Dark Memories by Steve Kettmann 3:00 a.m. Dec. 14, 1999 PST BERLIN -- The ghosts of Germany's Nazi past have a way of popping up when you least expect it, even when people are trying to have a good time. It's happening again, as this city that loves to party gears up for a New Year's celebration that will be capped by a massive light show expected to draw half a million people to the famous Victory column at the center of the Tiergarten. Organizers of the Art in Heaven light show bill it as the largest ever, and there's no doubt it will be a technological wonder. As the project Web site makes clear, this is meant to be a dramatic statement. Using 3.8 million watts of electricity and sending light 70 kilometers into the sky, it should be visible as far away as Dresden and Hamburg. A crew of 760 will work for five days to set it up, laying 70 kilometers of cable. Even on the site, the show looks impressive, but artist Gert Hof has in mind a different sort of drama for shortly before midnight. The plan is to have the Victory column, or Siegessäule, lit by 250,000 torches. I wish to create a moment of silence, Hof said. Everybody should experience these first seconds of the new millennium in a peaceful and thoughtful manner, before the massive light cathedral will build up in the sky. But not everybody likes the idea. Especially those with long memories. Much of the controversy has to do with the Victory column itself, sitting in the park and topped by a golden angel. Although it dates back more than a century and was built to commemorate Prussian military victories under the first kaiser, the column does have associations to Germany's Nazi past, too: Albert Speer, the Third Reich's armaments minister and Hitler's favorite architect, moved the column to its present location in the Tiergarten. Speer's name also comes up when the subject of dramatic lighting is raised. Joern Jensen, mayor of the Tiergarten district, wants the light show scrapped, saying that it harkens back to Speer's illuminated spectacles that glorified the Nazi regime. He says the current plans will tar the city's reputation and taint the celebrations. When I found out what would happen there -- this was in late November -- I was scared about all the associations that could take place if this event shall happen, Jensen told Wired News. This spectacle of the lights is just like the light show Albert Speer made for the Nazi party rallies in Nuremberg. I think all those associations are too much for you to say 'This is only art and there's nothing about the history we Germans have at that place.' I think art always is combined with space and time, and this light show at that place and at this time is wrong, and is political failure. You can't do that with this history we have in Germany. We shouldn't give a message to the next millennium with a kind of art like the Nazis did, because all our neighbors, especially those in the East, are afraid of this big Germany in the middle of Europe again. Unpleasant echoes from the past are a given in Germany, but the light-show controversy appears to have kicked up an even stronger reaction than usual in favor of putting the past in the past. Even the head of Berlin's Jewish community, Andreas Nachama, issued a strong
Re: [CTRL] Open House for Nuclear Family
-Caveat Lector- Well what about that guy who on a windy day, ordered the controlled fire at Los Alamos? Looks to me like they were attempting to burn down more than just the weeds and tares The guy who set the fire so freely said yes I did it with my little match. It was a controlled fire - but it got out of control at a very critical time didn't it. For you see none of our secrets have been stolen - the were sold. And maybe, just maybe - Mega, was The Man. That guy who engaged in an act of Sodomy by a prostitute no doubt sent in by organized crime to get something on the Prez'/ Besides we have things much worse than nuclear weapons - soon they will be just another toy with which the kids can play. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Firefighters Protest Appearance in Gay [Homosexual] Pride Parade
-Caveat Lector- Well Andrew I agree; and further all the firemen I have known, have had one thing in common - they were REAL MEN and brave men. As for this Gay Pride CRAP - now that we have a war going and shortly before, it was said the Gays did not like the service and wanted out - maybe they felt the whiplash of the winds of war? So more power to the Firemen and the Sons of St. Patrick and the Knights of Columbus who kept these fruitcakes out of their parade. Why don't they honor those two kids at Littleton who were alleged to be fags. Maybe through no fault of their own, for these kids were programmed and by whom? Just think - these two kids wanted to take out the Twin Towers. Well why not, the movies have shown Washington DC blown to hell and back, first the thought, then the wish - and then poof -- Gone With the Wind. Support Your Firemen - and keep in mind that this Mayor of New York, this Rudolph Giuliani - when the got to the loaded gold truck and pulled out the gold, it was then they started scooping up the dead bodies of the firemen and duming into dumpsters? Sound familiar - look to Georgia - this creep down there, who oh so terrible they are so afraid someone is going to get the whole family and light up Stone Mountain - this man had over 300 dead bodies lying around and body parts.last thing I remember Giuliani saying re World Trade Center, was how they had counted 148 some body parts that day...such a sensitive man. That guy in Georgia by the way had a nice pit of body parts - now wonder what happened to the rest ??? Its about time some real men stood up - and say cross that line, you bastards I dare you. OSaba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: Burnet's solution: The plan to poison S-E Asia
Jim Rarey picked this good one up and I have added a blurp re Linus
Pauling for this Swine Flu vaccine he was dead set against. Linus
Pauling worked with this Assassination Committee headed by Bud
Fensterwald of which I was member way back..he received Nobel Peace
Award too and shared with nobody...
This is real Doomsday Stuff - and I believe there are those out there
who know who is doing what, and are combating same - no more turn the
other cheek - are we going to let them destroy our country so strangers
can take it over not by law but by force by simply side-stepping the
Constitution and Washington DC is set for demolition too.
so the Mayor of New York is selling the Brooklyn Bridge and will then
make it a toll bridge alaong with 4 othersstealing our land for it
was ILLEGAL to sell the Twin Towers, hence the 99 year lease.
Larry Silverstein virtually got those buildings FREE for the insurance
of 7 billion dollars - 7 billion dollars plus the money from 7 World
Trade Center as well, which flourised in the flames thanks to the Mayor
causing to be placed 6000 gallos of fuel by its door.
Time to wake up.
OSaba
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Saba,
Have you seen this from Australia? Another icon with feet of clay.
Jim Rarey aka Medium Rare
Burnet's solution: The plan
to poison S-E Asia ByBrendan Nicholson Poltical
Correspondent March 10 2002
World-famous microbiologist Sir Macfarlane Burnet,
the Nobel prize winner revered as Australia's greatest medical research
scientist, secretly urged the government to develop biological weapons for use
against Indonesia and other "overpopulated" countries of South-East
Asia.
The revelation is contained in top-secret files
declassified by the National Archives of Australia, despite resistance from the
Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.
Sir Macfarlane recommended in a secret report in
1947 that biological and chemical weapons should be developed to target food
crops and spread infectious diseases.
His key advisory role on biological warfare was
uncovered by Canberra historian Philip Dorling in the National Archives in
1998.
The department initially blocked release of the
material on the basis it would damage Australia's international relations. Dr
Dorling sought a review and the material was finally released to him late last
year.
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The files include a comprehensive memo Sir
Macfarlane wrote for the Defence Department in 1947 in which he said Australia
should develop biological weapons that would work in tropical Asia without
spreading to Australia's more temperate population centres.
"Specifically to the Australian situation, the most
effective counter-offensive to threatened invasion by overpopulated Asiatic
countries would be directed towards the destruction by biological or chemical
means of tropical food crops and the dissemination of infectious disease capable
of spreading in tropical but not under Australian conditions," Sir Macfarlane
said.
The Victorian-born immunologist, who headed the
Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research, won the Nobel prize for
medicine in 1960. He died in 1985 but his theories on immunity and "clonal
selection" provided the basis for modern biotechnology and genetic
engineering.
On December 24, 1946, the secretary of the
Department of Defence, F.G. Shedden, wrote to Macfarlane Burnet saying Australia
could not ignore the fact that many countries were conducting intense research
on biological warfare and inviting him to a meeting of top military officers to
discuss the question.
The minutes of a meeting in January, 1947, reveal
that Sir Macfarlane argued that Australia's temperate climate could give it a
significant military advantage.
"The main contribution of local research so far as
Australia is concerned might be to study intensively the possibilities of
biological warfare in the tropics against troops and civil populations at a
relatively low level of hygiene and with correspondingly high resistance to the
common infectious diseases," he told the meeting.
In September, 1947, Sir Macfarlane was invited to
join a chemical and biological warfare subcommittee of the New Weapons and
Equipment Development Committee.
He prepared a secret report titled Note on War from
a Biological Angle suggesting that biological warfare could be a powerful weapon
to help defend a thinly populated Australia.
Sir Macfarlane also urged the government to
encourage universities to research those branches of biological science that had
a special bearing on biological warfare.
A clinically scientific approach is evident in a
note he wrote in June, 1948.
He said a successful attack with a microbiological
agent on a large population would have such a devastating impact that its use
was extremely unlikely while both sides were capable of retaliation.
"The main
