Vic K2VCO wrote:
On 8/12/2012 1:25 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
For those Listers who don't know what Ultimatic keying is all about -
and are afraid to ask - here is a description by Chuck Olson WB9KZY and
some references also: http://wb9kzy.com/ultimat.txt
73, Stan WB2LQF
In a few words:
Yes please, I've been waiting for this for a few years now!
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
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him. -Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)
On 11 Aug 2012, at 16:32, emann...@csc.uvic.ca wrote:
I third
I too support the request to add Ultimatic to Elecraft rigs. I don't have
the fine motor control of my fingers required to make use of iambic
features. I treat the dual paddles the same as a single paddle for the most
part. However, the dual paddle feels better than a single paddle, probably
Me too!
Gary KJ7RT
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On Aug 12, 2012, at 10:55, Erik Basilier ebasil...@cox.net wrote:
I too support the request to add Ultimatic to Elecraft rigs. I don't have
the fine motor control of my fingers required to make use of iambic
features. I treat the dual paddles the same as
For those Listers who don't know what Ultimatic keying is all about -
and are afraid to ask - here is a description by Chuck Olson WB9KZY and
some references also: http://wb9kzy.com/ultimat.txt
73, Stan WB2LQF
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To elaborate a little bit further:
1. For those of us that lack iambic skills, there are rational reasons for
us to use dual paddles, although simple-minded logic would suggest that we
stick with single paddles. Not only is the paddle travel excessive when
moving a single paddle from dot to
I believe this was done several years ago on this list during a previous
Ultimatic thread. Unfortunately, keyer modes are right up with
religions for many folks ... I recall the discourse was spirited. I
do not recall the ultimate outcome, if there was one, but I do remember
the spirit!
73,
To answer your question, after 20 years of using a straight key and bug, I
built a discrete-component CMOS iambic keyer in the 1970's.
I did start out slow but speed came quickly, IIRC, as my fingers learned the
correct pattern of movements for each character. But I had to do the same
thing when
Hi Brian,
Yes, if you use a single paddle, the logic in the keyer doesn't affect you,
but I wouldn't call that using iambic. Given that there are so many dual
paddles on the market, and so few singles, I have to believe that most hams
that use an electronic keyer are currently using dual
You guys got me interested, and I have a keyer that supports it, so I tried it.
Couldn't send C's or K's. Both of which are in my call!
On 8/12/2012 1:25 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
For those Listers who don't know what Ultimatic keying is all about -
and are afraid to ask - here is a
On 08/12/2012 03:27 PM, Erik Basilier wrote:
3. How many operators can truly say that they make use of iambic features?
I do too. I went from straight key to Iambic back in the 70s, or so. I
used a HB copy of the Heathkit HD-1410 Iambic keyer and a HB Iambic Key.
I decided that I would not
Ron, thanks for your comments, and I recognize that there must be a sizable
minority of operators that are fully competent with iambic. And, when iambic
is mastered it can probably produce faster code than either a single paddle
or a double paddle used by a non-iambic operator. What I don't
I learned to type that way in High School too but what really taught me to
keep a steady pace was pounding away on an old Model 15 RTTY keyboard in the
Army. As each key was pressed the keyboard locked while the mechanical
encoder cycled before another key could be pressed. Fortunately it was
My former TS-870 had a built-in Logikey and I could actually send with it. The
same can't be said for the K3 internal keyer. I can barely program the
memories without a few tries. As to holding a QSO forget it. I've been sending
the numeral 7 in my call since 1958 and it still comes out M S
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:02 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic keying
I learned to type that way in High School too but what really taught me
On 8/12/2012 3:44 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote:
In 1971 in Germany in the Army Signal Corps, we convinced our COL to upgrade
us to a 90 WPM RTTY machine so we wouldn't get stalled by the sluggish
nature of the 60WPM. To this day, I wonder how I typed that fast as I sure
suck today! Noisy is was!!!
On an even more obscure note, in the summer of 1965 or 1966 (can't
remember which) as a recently-minted Conditional class licensee I was
spending a lot of time on 40 meter CW during the day. High school was
out for the summer and I was busy building electronic keyers and
learning to use them.
On Aug 12, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Randy Farmer w...@tx.rr.com wrote:
Does anybody else remember the Squeeze Keyer?
Yep! Basically, a POO Keyer with single dot insertion.
Bud, W2RU
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Hi Randy,
Sounds suspiciously like the 9TO Mark II which appeared in the
June 1967
issue of QST, was called Dot Insertion It was my 1st keyer and I still have
it!!
You can get the article on line at the ARRL if you want to
check
it out. I think
it is an
In the interest of keeping list volume under control (and improving SNR)
let's end this thread at this time.
For those interested, there is a lot of prior discussion of this topic
in the searchable list archives at:
http://www.elecraft.com/elist.html
73,
Eric
Elecraft List Moderator
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I third the motion!
I have been building external boxes to provide Ultimatic keying mode for
about 25 years.
It would be VERY nice to have it internal to
the K3/KX3...
Eric
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Thanks to all who offered comments I went with an N0XAS PicoKeyer
(hamgadgets.com) - this is pretty much the same keyer as the RockMite upgrade
chip, in a small stand-alone board.Easy build, works great and has Ultimatic
mode.Still, someday in some future rom upgrade it would be nice to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Still, someday in some future rom upgrade it
would be nice to have Ultimatic keying on board in the K*
rigs.
If anyone would like to refresh my memory on Ultimatic keyers, I'd be
happy to read it. I remember a QST article at least 200 years ago about
it, I think it
Fred Jensen wrote:
If anyone would like to refresh my memory on Ultimatic keyers, I'd be
happy to read it.
http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2005-02/msg00563.html
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Mike,
It's my understanding that the MODE is a function of the chip being
used. At this time I know of three Ultimatic units. The cube keyer
that goes with that mini Palm paddle key (the newer cube), the
offerings from Jackson Harbor - I think the PK4 chip (that's used the
new Palm), and
The K1EL keyers also support Ultimatic mode. They are small inexpensive
PC boards. I use the K12 to provide Ultimatic mode, much easier for me.
I too would like to see the KX1 and K1 rigs provide Ultimatic keying.
The K2 is not a problem for me - the external keyer works fine, but it
would
I hope I'm not reviving an old discussion here, but I searched the reflector
archives and didn't find too much on the subject
I have discovered that Ultimatic style keying is a lot easier for me and I send
a lot better using it rather than iambic A/B. Is there any room in the KX1 or
K1
:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Ultimatic Keying.
Rick wrote:
I would like to see a squeeze option that would give a steady tone when
the
paddle contacts are both closed. This would restore keying control to the
operator.
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Now we're almost back to something I asked for several
A very long time ago I suggested to Elecraft that an Ultimatic option would
be nice, and anyway the iambic mode is a dogs' breakfast to actually use.
Iambic keying only exists because of designer laziness; it was the easy way
out with flip flop circuitry.
The last discrete device
What features does Ultimatic Keying have? And what keyers offer it?
73,
Tom N0SS
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This from an OHR ad:
Ultimatic is a pre-iambic keying mode in which the result of a squeeze is
that the keyer will switch to the last lever pressed rather than alternating
dits and
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic Keying.
What features does Ultimatic Keying have? And what keyers offer it?
73,
Tom N0SS
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This from an OHR ad:
Ultimatic is a pre-iambic keying mode in which the result of a squeeze
Another solution for getting Ultimatic keying inside a K2 would be the PK4
keyer from Jackson Harbor Press. It's very small, only 1 x 1.5. Jackson
Harbor's contest keyer, the Island Keyer II, also supports Ultimatic. Both of
these keyers are available directly from Jackson Harbor Press at:
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic Keying.
Ron, AC7AC wrote:
(Probably. After 20 years on an Iambic keyer I went back to a Bug
because
it's more work and more satisfying. So don't ever expect me to be
logical,
Mr. Spock
and does
not travel well.73 - Rick - K7MW
- Original Message -
From: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimatic Keying.
..
Confession time, have yet to master fully this new
On Fri, 2005-18-02 at 17:17 -0500, W3FPR - Don Wilhelm wrote:
The keying is all done inside the microprocessor chip, so your best
solution
would be to opt for an external keyer.
... or a single lever paddle!
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73, Brian
VE7NGR
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Fernando:
Care to enlighten us with a bit of description of Ultimatic Keying...?
I don't use the K2's keyer AS an iambic keyer, even though the feature's
available.
What features does Ultimatic Keying have? And what keyers offer it?
73,
Tom N0SS
At 03:45 PM 2/18/05, you wrote:
Hello.
Tom:
It's my understanding (though I've never used it) that it responds to
a squeeze by repeating the last side closed. Thus, holding the dot
side produces a string of dots, dash side dashes. Squeeze dot/dash
give a dot followed by a string of dashes, while dash/dot produces a
dash
dave belsley, w1euy
It's my understanding (though I've never used it) that it responds to
a squeeze by repeating the last side closed. Thus, holding the dot
side produces a string of dots, dash side dashes. Squeeze dot/dash
give a dot followed by a string of dashes, while dash/dot produces a
Thanks to all who responded here and by private email.
I have found an external keyer with my needs by K1EL.
Just wanted to ask before I get another do dat on the cluttered desktop.
I figure that with the resources on this list that perhaps
someone might have made a mod or such.
Please delete
There was a discussion about this just recently in the BrassPounders
news group on Yahoo. The attractiveness of Ultimatic is not its
effeciency - it is attractive to a number of cw operators because of
its ineffeciency! That is, its forgiving coordination requirements.
I bought a very nice
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