Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
I can't imagine watching all that. Do people? On Nov 13, 2023, at 6:43 PM, David Eric Smith wrote:  Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara Walker and Lee Cronin. I will not comment further. Eric On Nov 13, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
There's a Nine Inch Nails song that coincides with the SFI initials. Dating myself. On Nov 13, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Steve Smith wrote:  On 11/13/23 5:39 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: I'm surprised Stuart Kauffman isn't in there. CultBiosGroup? -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... .

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Steve Smith
On 11/13/23 5:39 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: I'm surprised Stuart Kauffman isn't in there. CultBiosGroup? -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Steve Smith
On 11/13/23 6:42 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara Walker and Lee Cronin. I will not comment further. Eric Gah! Coincidence that I just finished Stephen Webb's updated review of the Fermi Paradox.  I didn't choose to read it

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread David Eric Smith
I actually saw your post second, Frank, but had to smile when I did. Benefits/defects of reading emails in reverse chronological. Eric > On Nov 13, 2023, at 7:31 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Were you responding to my post, Eric? Probably not. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
Were you responding to my post, Eric? Probably not. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 6:43 PM David Eric Smith wrote: > Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara > Walker and Lee Cronin. >

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread David Eric Smith
Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara Walker and Lee Cronin. I will not comment further. Eric > On Nov 13, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > > On 11/13/23 12:06 PM, glen wrote: >> You might want to check the Gurometer. Lex has an entry: >> >>

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Steve Smith
On 11/13/23 12:06 PM, glen wrote: You might want to check the Gurometer. Lex has an entry: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oe-af4_OmzLJavktcSKGfP0wmxCX0ppP8n_Tvi9l_yc/edit?usp=sharing While Lex's scores are relatively low compared to some of the wackos on the list, we are known by

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
I'm surprised Stuart Kauffman isn't in there. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 5:31 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > I'm too lazy to run a kmeans now. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 13, 2023, at 12:06 PM, glen

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
I'm too lazy to run a kmeans now. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 13, 2023, at 12:06 PM, glen wrote: > > You might want to check the Gurometer. Lex has an entry: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oe-af4_OmzLJavktcSKGfP0wmxCX0ppP8n_Tvi9l_yc/edit?usp=sharing > > While Lex's scores

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread glen
You might want to check the Gurometer. Lex has an entry: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oe-af4_OmzLJavktcSKGfP0wmxCX0ppP8n_Tvi9l_yc/edit?usp=sharing While Lex's scores are relatively low compared to some of the wackos on the list, we are known by association. And many of Lex's guests

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Steve Smith
It seems (maybe only to me?) that "will" is what defines the intersection of memory and imagination?   The free-will-less-ness-ers among us (ala Sopolsky )

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
It seems to me that neither Musk and Thiel are interested in the unknown. They are interested in doing things they can already imagine.For Musk I thought that was because it is how he raises money. Now I think he is not imagining consciousness in a, say, a transporter pattern buffer, he

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

2023-11-13 Thread glen
There's an interesting parallel between the Stross and Gellman pieces: Stross both laments and implicitly appreciates the bureaucracy of getting a book published, where Thiel's aggrieved by the bureaucracy of societal evolution. It reminds me of the engineering-vs-biology dichotomy (yes,