Re: [Geeqie-devel] clang and GTK3

2017-06-27 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am Di den 27. Jun 2017 um 12:59 schrieb Colin Clark:
> When I configure to use clang, GTK2 is ok, but GTK3 fails on two lines
> in cellrendericon.
> 
> Have I missed a configuration item, or is this merely "yet another bug to
> be fixed"?

As you know, I usually stay on GTK2 as I have usability problems with
GTK3.

But I think that is another bug. Do you have the error messages to have
a look at?

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   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Sourceforge blows

2017-06-25 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am So den 25. Jun 2017 um  9:40 schrieb colin clark:
> Would it also be possible for an email to be sent to the list whenever the
> Geeqie repository is updated?

Sure. I can do that when the new list is live. :-)

Maybe we want to have a separate list for this ... just if I can have
wishes. :-D

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Sourceforge blows

2017-06-24 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

It would be nice to have the mailing list away from sourceforge. But
unfortunately, it is not done by itself. ;-)

So, if there is any contributor for this job, just stand up. :-D

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   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Sourceforge blows

2017-06-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Mo den 12. Jun 2017 um 10:17 schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
>   One more think is to allow custom domains. I would prefer to have
>   mailingl...@geeqie.org or something like that. That would even make it
>   more easy to migrate in future if needed.

u...@mailinglists.geeqie.org or something like this. Subdomains are
easier to maintain than mail addresses. But simple addresses would work
too.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Sourceforge blows

2017-06-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am So den 11. Jun 2017 um 16:43 schrieb Paul:
> > "I understand that I can withdraw my consent at anytime."
> 
> I attempted to keep my consent withdrawn by not checking the "I agree to 
> receive stuff I don't want" check-box, but the interface refused to let me 
> re-confirm my mailing list subscription.  So I closed the browser window 
> without proceeding.
> 
> It's time to move the mailing list to another provider.

I fully agree. And I would be grateful if we could call sourceforge
fully the past!

There are only a few things that has to be done:
- - Get an agreement of the devs where to go (Mine you have)
- - Find a list provider that is stable and open and free (free as
  Stallman uses it) and that allows to migrate to _and_ from their
  service from/to others

  One more think is to allow custom domains. I would prefer to have
  mailingl...@geeqie.org or something like that. That would even make it
  more easy to migrate in future if needed.
- - Migrate the list and if possible the archive; including forwards that
  no mails get lost

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   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Sourceforge blows

2017-06-09 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Fr den  9. Jun 2017 um  6:26 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
[Sourceforge naging crap]

Yes, I know, sourceforge is a pain.

> Just receiving this was enough to raise my blood pressure because I go
> to lengths every time I subscribe to a mailman list to disable such
> reminders,

However, there are not that many mailing lists out there that give the
user the freedom to change his settings. There is mailman, majordomo,
schleuder and what else?

mailman is not the worsed in the list. :-)

I personally like the idea of schleuder. But I do think that there will
be users here on the list who are not graceful with it, using PGP on
mailing lists.

> Please, let us move the list.  This is a line in the browserisation of
> everything which I am not willing to cross; so, if the list remains on
> sourceforge I have to leave.

If you have any idea. I'd love to implement it. Maybe I will justsetup
mailman again on my server as I did have in long gone past.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] [BestImageViewer/geeqie] Consistency between repositories (#471)

2017-04-13 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Néstor,

Am Mi den 12. Apr 2017 um 18:32 schrieb Néstor Díaz Valencia:
> Hi, I have been a long time user of Geeqie and now I am back. I am glad is 
> still maintained and faster than ever.
> 
> If you are interested in maintaining geeqie.org site, even revamping it to 
> look modern I offer my self to host and maintain the site.

If you are interested, just look into the web subdirectory, modify it
and drop a patch to the mailinglist (in Cc). Alternativelly you can do a
pull request on github but this will not be notified by that many
people.

If the community decide to use it, I will put it to live. Alternativelly
you can post some screenshoots first.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams (+Win32)

2016-12-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Do den 29. Dez 2016 um  3:10 schrieb Josef Kufner:
> Ian Zimmerman wrote, on 29.12.2016 02:26:
> > On this topic, would it be interesting to create pipelines for editors,
> > rather than just invoking them 1 by 1?  For example, we could make it
> > possible to create a pipeline where an intricate batch imagemagick
> > command is called on the current image, the output is saved to a
> > temporary file, and then gimp is immediately called on the temporary to
> > allow for manual postprocessing.  Can we imagine a GUI for defining such
> > pipelines?  
> 
> It would be very messy. Leave that to command line.

Somehow. But maybe we can utilize LUA and put that into a nice editor.

> What can be done quite easily is to invoke a command on a selection of
> images (something like xargs):

Currently I have something similar on my todo list. Something to
automatic process duplicates. If you have say more than 1000 duplicates
and want to proceed them choosing which to delete and merging metadata,
it is a pain in the A... to do it manually.

In this case, my plan is to call external script with several clear
defined parameters on command line for each doublicates found.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams

2016-12-25 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Sa den 24. Dez 2016 um 18:18 schrieb Alexander Antimonov:
> > - Introduce new bugs (because big rewrites always do)
> Sure, but with C++ port we can also simplify code, and less code - less bugs.
> Now considerable part of Geeqie's code is plain C which builds UI.
> It's a rare method of building UI nowadays. It should be replaced with
> something like Glade description.

Well, geeqie does not stop you to do some implementations in c++ (see
the exiv2 interface).

However, there should be someone caring about that parts afterwards.

We had several big changes in the past where the main author wrote it
and kept the bug hunting to others. I can say that I had to fight with
motivation issues due to that. :-(

> > - Maybe exclude some core developers who just don't have as much fun in C++ 
> > as in C
> It might be a good chance for them to improve their skills a bit.
> 
> My 5 cents, I prefer do not use love/hate words when it comes to
> technical things.

I for myself have technical reasons why I dislike C++. And I also have
concerns about maintainability. Many times the encapsulating breaks
necessary overview.

About the UI design. I tried myself once to redo it with glade. However,
I dropped it as it just binds so many resources that I can spend for
better stuff. But I agree, that a more OO design would help for UI
stuff.

Other stuff would not gain any improvement and, worse, loose it.

So, conclusion, if you have something that can be done in C++ and you
want to do it, go ahead. Especially if you stay with the project and
maintain that stuff afterwards. :-)

But just converting existing logic into C++ for no need would not help I
think.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie coding standards? Third edition :o)

2016-12-25 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

Am Sa den 24. Dez 2016 um 15:43 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
> I use Emacs.

I do not know any of emacs and how to customize it depending on the
file/projects.

I would even not voluntary start emacs. ;-)

> - I strongly prefer spaces only indentation

That could be agreed with, I think.

> - I too prefer K ish style (opening brace after keyword on the same
>   line)

See my follow up mail. I muddled the two.

> - I think it's helpful to code function declarations and calls like this:
> 
> int
> foo_func (long arg)
> {
> call_to_bar(arg);
> }

That's what I meat. Most often it is really important to have the
opening and closing braced on the same column.

>   I mean in particular the hoisting of the return type on its own line,

That I don't need but have no oportunity against.

> - I am actually pretty religious about keeping to 80 chars per line.

When it comes to religious matter with styles I learned from many
projects that this is mostly wrong and could even kill projects.

As I said, I do not like this 80 column limit. It makes no sense anymore
and I had troubles several times with intermixing with editor line
breaks.

So better let the editor do the (virtual) breaks/wraps.

Am Sa den 24. Dez 2016 um 19:53 schrieb Omari Stephens:
> I agree with everything you just said.  But my terminal is 190 columns 
> wide, and when I see lines wrapping just because the author didn't 
> bother to put a single newline in there, it's a problem.

That could be..

> I think we could easily say "no lines longer than 160 chars" without 
> incurring most of the downsides that you're bringing up.

That might be a good compromise. However, I would rather see that as
"soft" limit.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams

2016-12-24 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Omari,

Am Fr den 23. Dez 2016 um 21:42 schrieb Omari Stephens:
> It is at least hypothetically possible to port Geeqie to C++11 / GtkMM.
> 
> Ignoring the inevitable ridiculous mountain of work that it would take, 
> does the end state seem like a good idea?

Well, except from the Idea that I personally love C and hate C++... ;-)

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie coding standards? Third edition :o)

2016-12-24 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Omari,

Am Fr den 23. Dez 2016 um 19:09 schrieb Omari Stephens:
> In #2, I had created a one-liner to compute a line-length histogram our
> codebase.  I've rerun it and included the results below as [1].  If also
> attached a list of max-line-length by source file.  As of my git clone from
> earlier this week, Geeqie has 106k lines.  227 of those lines are over 160
> characters.  That's 0.2%

I personally doesn't care about long lines if they make stuff more logic
than a hell of linebreaks with indentations.

Longer lines are also better sometimes for merging purpose.

Moreover, most editors shows long lines in a better way as short ones
with indentations. Especially if you resize the window. I do many perl
coding and what I hate most is that limitation to 80 chars. When I use a
windows that is smaller, the code gets unreadable as the linebreaks from
the editor interfere with the artificial linebreaks.

> But beyond that, ClangFormat exists now.  Because it's part of Clang, and
> actually lexes/parses the C language, it can make actual semantically-driven
> decisions about how a piece of source code should look.  This means that
> _if_ we decide on some style, ClangFormat should make it relatively
> straightforward to update the codebase in one fell swoop.  (And FYI, the C++
> standard at Google, where I work, is to run all code through ClangFormat,
> with exceptions specified as per [2])

I didn't know that tool. But if there is something that works well, why
not adapt it...

I just want to have some thinking about one or the other style. Some
"common" styles are not really helpful.

Other think I do prefer is the K style instead of the unbalanced
braces GNU style.

Maybe we can have a style config like perltidy config.

> With that said, I would love for us to get away from a style that encourages
> us to mix tabs and spaces.  See, for instance, [3].  There is no way to
> match an arbitrary paren on the prior line without using spaces for some
> indentation.  But if our style is to use tabs for most indentation, it
> either means that you can't match the exact paren offset from the previous
> line, or you have to mix tabs and spaces.

Yes. That I also swear sometimes about.

Usually I have my vim to use smart tabs what is okish for most cases.
They replace all 8 spaces on the begin of the line with one tab and
handles the rest transparent.

However, it might be better to switch to a expand tab setting. At least
for the line begin.

> My personal preference would be to switch to using spaces for all
> indentation, but I would be okay with using tabs for all indentation as
> well, so long as we avoid situations where the tabs need to be padded with
> spaces.

:-)

In any case. If we agree about a specific style, it should be configured
via vim modeline in all files. Currently we have the following:
   set shiftwidth=8 softtabstop=0 cindent cinoptions={1s:

It is nothing more wrong than a mismatch of that options with the
current used style. (Does someone here use different editor than vim
that does not respect such a setting?)

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Github bugs and versions

2016-12-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am Do den 22. Dez 2016 um 18:12 schrieb Colin Clark:
> I want to log an new bug on Github, but I would also like to indicate 
> which versions it affects (as there seems to be still a few people 
> around using old versions).

Yea, I noticed that myself. I just answered the one about refresh.

> But I don't see any way in Github other than to create a set of labels - 
> one for each existing version of Geeqie - and then to tag the bug with 
> the relevant labels.
> 
> Do you have any other ideas?

No, that would be the same way, I would choose.

Maybe it is a good idea to tag the bugs with the versions we found them.

What I don't think to be a good idea is to hold it open after the bug is
fixed in master.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] geeqie window refresh issue

2016-12-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Omari and Hanno,

Am Do den 22. Dez 2016 um 19:04 schrieb Omari Stephens:
> > I have a picture collection with about 660 subdirectories. I recently
> > noticed the following issue:
> >
> > - I view some images in one of the image subdirectories
> > - I go back to the top directory (with the 660 subdirectories in it)
> > - geeqie window (combined file list + image window) stops updating until
> >   I resize it. I don't see the list of the 660 subdirectories.
> >
> > More exactly, geeqie window returns blank if I iconify and restore it
> > (no size change involved). Hitting "r" (file list refresh) makes no
> > difference, only resizing fixes things.
> >
> > This is using Xubuntu 14.04, geeqie 1.1-8. Using PPA geeqie_1.2.2-1dhor
> > the situation improved a little: Starting in a subdir and then going one
> > up gives me the issue, but after switching back and forth (using the
> > back arrrow) things are back to normal.
> >
> > I was not able to reproduce the issue with a second machine, same
> > software versions, same directory layout. Since things seem to be
> > dependent on caching (see above), I suspect a timing issue.
> >
> > Any ideas? Since this seems to be hard to reproduce, I'd be happy to run
> > more checks, if someone can tell me what to look for. Debug output
> > wasn't helpful, I didn't notice a difference between issue showing or
> > not.
> >
> > Hanno
> 
> Much belated, but I see this also.  I find that if I scroll up or down 
> in the file list, everything refreshes as expected, without having to 
> resize the window at all.

I don't think, they have todo with each other.

Between 1.1 and the current version are 5 and between 1.2.2 and the
current still 2 versions. And with version 1.3 there was several
bugfixes implemented; also something that exactly is the original
problem, Hanno described in October.

Keep in mind, version 1.3 is from May(!) There was many bugs in that
archaic versions 1.2.2 and 1.1. (Version 1.2.2 is more than one year old
and version 1.1 4(!) years old)

Please update to the most stable version. I am pretty sure that the
problem is gone with that.

And Omari, I know about that bug to, but I am pretty sure that it should
be fixed in version 1.3. Which version did you try? If it is not fixed,
please tell me how to reproduce.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Natural sort order for files and folders

2016-12-13 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am Di den 13. Dez 2016 um 12:27 schrieb Colin Clark:
> I now find that my proposed solution was implemented in Geeqie, but was 
> deleted in commit bd34c324c92456f5182579d6922d7aba664f93c3 2009-12-19.
> 
> I can't find what bug 2917164 is,

I believe that this refer to [0][1]. Where the number come from, I
wasn't able to find.

> I suggest I implement a new option in the Files tab of Preferences to 
> select the collate method. The menus are then not cluttered up, and 
> those who think an ASCII sort is sensible can continue to live happily.
> 
> If you don't want yet another option in the program - no problem - I can 
> just patch my working copy.

No problem with that. Just go ahead. :-)

I also need to add some options on some points.

It might need some option cleanup in future but for now, better one to
much than one to less.

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://sourceforge.net/p/geeqie/bugs/100/
[1] https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/issues/100
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-16 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Russel,

Am Mi den 16. Nov 2016 um 11:40 schrieb Russel Winder:
> Geeqie currently has an Autotools build. A lot of the GTK world seems
> to be switching to Meson, or at least trying it out. JetBrains CLion
> only accepts CMake builds for projects (at least currently). Is the
> Geeqie team committed to using Autotools, or if an alternate build were
> available might it be accepted?

Well, let me tell it that way, the build tool is not set in stone.
But...

I see no need currently to even think about a new build tool.
Autoconf/automake serves what it is used for and it does it good. It
would take many work to change to other one.

- From the fact that the man power is very limited, this is a big NO.

On the other hand, I never heard of meson. Nor do I know (without
duckduckgoing) what "JetBrais CLion" is. IF there would be a need for
other build tool, I would more vote for something widely used (ok, cmake
is not that seldom). In the end, the chances would be pretty high that I
would end with automake/autoconf again when sorting the pro and cons.

So, for a new project, that would be something to think about. For a
existing project, there has to be a pretty good reason to switch the
build environment to something other with new bugs and new
inadequateness.

Am Do den 17. Nov 2016 um  1:57 schrieb Greg Troxel:
> Ian Zimmerman <i...@primate.net> writes:
> > But in the context of geeqie, I'd say don't fix it as long as it's not
> > broken.  If it breaks, we can return to this discussion.
> 
> That's a very good point.   geeqie seems to need more people to hack on
> the code, and the build system really isn't a problem at all.

No more to say. That is the most valid point here.

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[Geeqie-devel] GTK+3

2016-10-31 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

lets try again GTK+3-Bindings. I seen today that debian enabled GTK+3 in
firefox and it looks good. Especially the problematic points (focus,
scroll bar, ...) seems to be solved.

So I will try GTK+3 bindings again the next days. With this I will also
have a look into all pull requests. Lets see. Just give me some time.

Gruß
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GIF animation support

2016-10-16 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Christian,

Am So den 16. Okt 2016 um 13:17 schrieb Christian Heckendorf:
> I sent a PR for GIF animation support in late August but haven't had any
> comments or indication that the Geeqie devs have seen it yet. Any
> thoughts from the Geeqie team?
> 
> https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/pull/430
> 
> Is it recommended to notify the mailing list of new PRs or are they, as
> well as GH issues, monitored by the devs regardless? Should discussion
> also happen on the list or in the github PR comment stream?

Well, yes and no. It is always good to put it here if you can. However,
lonly pull requests don't get overlooked. But it might need some time to
be handled.

I did see the PR. But until now I got no time to look into it. Sorry.

Nevertheless, I find it interesting as I hate to always fire up gimp or
a browser to view a animated gif or png.

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Screwed up repos

2016-08-26 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am Fr den 26. Aug 2016 um 10:40 schrieb Colin Clark:
> I've accidentally pushed something onto the master at github. I did not 
> realise I could do this - I didn't think I had write access.

Sure you have. :-)

> Now the geeqie.org and github repositories are out of sync.
> 
> What's the best solution? If I simply delete the last commit on github 
> will that make things better or even worse?

Well, I force pushed now the master from origin. So they are back in
sync. (git push github +origin/master:master)

As this keeps others that have already cloned the wrong version in the
need of manual "git remote update" and to force theire own master to be
in sync with that, this is not the best solution but the only one in
such cases I think. (Well, we could made some forward and backward
merging with reverts in between but this does nothing good here.)

But I think, not that many coned or pulled in between and the real
master ist the one on geeqie.org.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Merge requests

2016-08-24 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am Mi den 24. Aug 2016 um  9:21 schrieb Colin Clark:
> but I keep getting distracted - the sun has been shining, and that's
> something that doesn't happen around here too often

Well, here it is much to often.

> Yes, a while ago something got changed and I no longer have write 
> access. I've been intending to look in my backups to see what I did,
[...]
> Sorry, I'll make another effort to check what I did.

Uhm, ok.. I have to know that...

> Also, is there a possibility that something didn't get restored
> completely when you had to rebuild the website?

No, that problem was not about the ssh access.

> Would it be possible for you to check that? Thanks.

Sure.

What I did recently was to implement more ssh security[0]. With debian
as with other recent distributions, there should be no problem as the
current ssh implementations does work.

Nevertheless, older putty implementations on windows don't.

Your last login was 8 days bevore I did the change.

you can check by "ssh g...@geeqie.org". If you get an error, you can even
add -vvv but I expect your error message showing the problem right away.

Gruß
   Klaus

[0] https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Website offline for some minutes

2016-07-18 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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The page is back online again.

That proves that my backup is working but slow. :-D

Sorry about the break.

Reason was a purged apache package on a other host that removed logs
from this server. And without the full nfs share, it broke my live web
server.

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[Geeqie-devel] Website offline for some minutes

2016-07-18 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

Due to a mistake from my side, website is offline for some minutes
(until backup is restored).

I apologise the problems.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Wrong rendering intent when using monitor profile

2016-07-09 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Morgan,

Am Fr den  8. Jul 2016 um 21:20 schrieb Morgan Hardwood:
> There is quite a serious bug or lack of feature in Geeqie. One can use a 
> monitor profile, but the monitor profile uses the perceptual rendering intent 
> instead of relative colorimetric, if it supports both. The default option 
> should always be relative colorimetric, even if more rendering intents are 
> present in the profile. That is of utmost importance and more of a bug. 
> Secondary to that is adding an easily-accessible option to switch rendering 
> intents, more of a feature request.

Can you please open a bug report at [0]. That way it will not get lost.

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/issues
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GTK2 GTK3

2016-07-03 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am So den  3. Jul 2016 um 18:39 schrieb Colin Clark:
> I am somewhat lost in understanding how this kind of development works 
> (I only worked on embedded micros - very different).

Well, it works how it is best to archive. :-) If something is useful and
have no downside, use it. In the other case, it depends.

> What is the typical arrangement for development of an application that 
> compiles on both GTK2 and GTK3? Is it standard to maintain two separate 
> development trees?

I do not have the knowledge to define the typical arrangement. I just
see how other projects does and try to combine that with common sense
and usability. So that might be good or bad. I might even fail that way
one time or the other.

Am So den  3. Jul 2016 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Troxel:
> Colin Clark <ccl...@mcb.net> writes:
> > What is the typical arrangement for development of an application that 
> > compiles on both GTK2 and GTK3? Is it standard to maintain two separate 
> > development trees?
> 
> Generally, one or the other is enabld via something like autoconf and
> there are ifdefs when necessary, with an attempt to minimize that.

That is my idea too.

> The reason I ask is because of all the deprecated warnings. For 
> instance, the GTK_STOCK_ warnings could probably be eliminated by simple 
> text substitutions. But that would not compile on GTK2.
> 
> But to put GTK_CHECK_VERSION around every change would be a nightmare.

True. But...

> What is your opinion about how to progress?

Am So den  3. Jul 2016 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Troxel:
> A really good question :-)

The problem currently is that GTK2 is stable and working fine and GTK3
has some bad usability problems but is needed for some new features.

With that in mind I think, we should support both versions and in my
opinion, there is no better way than the ifdef nightmare.

Having two distinguish branches might be more clear but, as Greg already
pointed out, it might be a nightmare to keep them in sync. It also makes
it more difficult for users to compile one or the other version.

A complete different solution would be to use a compatibility layer for
every GTK call (that is different). Maybe that would be the way in the
end if GTK3 stays that nightmare for long.

That would mean to have a private name space for all GTK calls and
"translate" them to the real library calls in different source files
(gtk2.c and gtk3.c plus gtk23.h) and just use one or the other.

But that would also be much work to do.

Currently I tend to keep the ifdef way. But the private function name
space has some potential and some elegances. I don't see a way at all in
different branches. Long term that is not manageable.

On the other hand, if GTK3 gets to a usable state, I would vote to drop
GTK2. But I don't see that coming very near.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Release 1.3

2016-05-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am So den 29. Mai 2016 um 18:02 schrieb Colin Clark:
> My view, which is but one of many, is that all compiler messages other 
> than errors should be inhibited for a standard build.

You mean like the kernel messages?

> There may be people trying to use Geeqie who struggle just to download a 
> tar and do a make. For them, compiler warnings are an unnecessary worry, 
> because they do not understand that the warnings are in fact irrelevant 
> to them.

I don't think that people who struggle over that output will ever
compile geeqie themself. They use the version, the distribution is
giving him.

> Deprecated warnings will never go away, because as fast as they are 
> fixed, the GTK developers are at work creating a few more.

That is a sad fact, yes.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Release 1.3

2016-05-29 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am So den 29. Mai 2016 um  4:01 schrieb John Stoffel:
> Just gettings the warnings fixed would be a good goal in my mind.

True.

As you might have noticed, I already did some cleanup in merges 2943df6
and 6164a63.

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[Geeqie-devel] Release 1.3

2016-05-27 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

I released v1.3 just recently.

You can either clone it from v1.3 tag or download the tar.xz from our
website.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Near release 1.3

2016-05-24 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

All milestones are done to release v1.3.

If you want something more that should go into it, this is your last
change. I will release the version 1.3 in the next days.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

2016-05-20 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Fr den 20. Mai 2016 um 23:05 schrieb Greg Troxel:
> pkgsrc has multiple versions of libchamplain.  The geeqie README does
> not explain which versions are needed, and about clutter-gtk versions.
> I suspect the reality is fairly simple -- you need libchamplain 0.12,
> and it has to be built with fairly recent clutter-gtk and hence gtk3 --
> but I am just guessing so far.

That in mind, we should have a condition in configure that disables all
champlain stuff when GTK2 is in use.

Maybe the distributions want to release a GTK2 _and_ a GTK3 version. I
would not recommend GTK3 at the moment with the bad picture that GTK3 is
giving currently.

> Then, trying to build with libchamplain 0.12, I get errors that seem
> fixed in git (to adapt to newer cogl) but not in any release.
> 
> So, I would advise ironing out the rough edges, which I think you can
> probably do pretty quickly, perhaps mostly documentation.  Then, when
> it's really working for everyone, it makes sense to talk about the
> defaults.
> 
> I don't know if geeqie is willing to cross into bugfix releases in
> branches, but if we are talking about 1.4, it would be nice to have a
> 1.2.4 with the cogl fix and any README updates.

Managing bugfixes for older versions than the current stable is not
doable with the current man power. Even more, I would never think about
that.

And for the current stable version I only backport security bugfixes, no
feature fixes, even more than it is about a experimental feature.

Last, Version 1.2 is on the end and version 1.3 will come out shortly.
Then, 1.3 is the stable and 1.2 will not be supported further.

> So, this is a request to update the README to be clear about versions of
> libchamplain, clutter, clutter-gtk, etc, and to specify which of those
> are directly required.  Please talk about upstream packages, not Linux
> package names, because geeqie is in theory (and mostly is) portable to
> any reasonable POSIX-like system (I'm using it on NetBSD, and have been
> using gqview/geeqie for probably 15 years).

Could you please create an issue on github so that could be tracked and
worked on? Requests in the mailing list gets lost.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image overlay configurable font and colours

2016-05-19 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am Do den 19. Mai 2016 um 15:40 schrieb Colin Clark:
> I've uploaded a new commit. I had forgotten to do a check compile 
> against GTK2.
> I just made a quick hack to avoid people having the problems you have 
> just encountered.

Works..

> I will recode it using the option of the GTK2+ Color Selector sometime soon.

Sounds good.


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[Geeqie-devel] Image overlay configurable font and colours

2016-05-19 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

What did you do to make this two patches compilable? I am not able to
compile them. I always get compiler errors (and some warnings):
   preferences.c: In function 'config_window_apply':
   preferences.c:288:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 
'set_image_overlay_font_string' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
  set_image_overlay_font_string(>image_overlay.font,
  ^
   preferences.c: In function 'image_overlay_set_font_cb':
   preferences.c:1026:11: warning: implicit declaration of function 
'gtk_font_chooser_dialog_new' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
 dialog = gtk_font_chooser_dialog_new("Image Overlay Font", 
gtk_widget_get_toplevel(widget));
  ^
   preferences.c:1026:9: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without 
a cast [-Wint-conversion]
 dialog = gtk_font_chooser_dialog_new("Image Overlay Font", 
gtk_widget_get_toplevel(widget));
^
   preferences.c:1027:2: warning: implicit declaration of function 
'gtk_font_chooser_set_font' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
 gtk_font_chooser_set_font(dialog, options->image_overlay.font);
 ^
   preferences.c:1031:15: warning: implicit declaration of function 
'gtk_font_chooser_get_font_desc' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
  font_desc = gtk_font_chooser_get_font_desc(GTK_FONT_CHOOSER(dialog));
  ^
   preferences.c:1031:46: warning: implicit declaration of function 
'GTK_FONT_CHOOSER' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
  font_desc = gtk_font_chooser_get_font_desc(GTK_FONT_CHOOSER(dialog));
 ^
   preferences.c:1031:13: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer 
without a cast [-Wint-conversion]
  font_desc = gtk_font_chooser_get_font_desc(GTK_FONT_CHOOSER(dialog));
^
   preferences.c:1038:21: warning: passing argument 1 of 'gtk_widget_destroy' 
from incompatible pointer type [-Wincompatible-pointer-types]
 gtk_widget_destroy(dialog);
^
   In file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcontainer.h:35:0,
from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkbin.h:35,
from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkwindow.h:36,
from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkdialog.h:35,
from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkaboutdialog.h:32,
from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:33,
from main.h:55,
from preferences.c:14:
   /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkwidget.h:837:9: note: expected 'GtkWidget * {aka 
struct _GtkWidget *}' but argument is of type 'GenericDialog * {aka struct 
_GenericDialog *}'
voidgtk_widget_destroy(GtkWidget*widget);
^
   preferences.c: In function 'config_tab_windows':
   preferences.c:1479:51: warning: passing argument 4 of 'gtk_box_pack_start' 
makes integer from pointer without a cast [-Wint-conversion]
 gtk_box_pack_start(GTK_BOX(hbox), button, FALSE, NULL, 0);
  ^
   In file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkbbox.h:34:0,
from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:46,
from main.h:55,
from preferences.c:14:
   /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkbox.h:109:13: note: expected 'gboolean {aka 
int}' but argument is of type 'void *'
voidgtk_box_pack_start  (GtkBox *box,
   ...
   preferences.o: In function `image_overlay_set_font_cb':
   /home/klaus/devel/upstream/geeqie/src/preferences.c:1026: undefined 
reference to `gtk_font_chooser_dialog_new'
   /home/klaus/devel/upstream/geeqie/src/preferences.c:1027: undefined 
reference to `gtk_font_chooser_set_font'
   /home/klaus/devel/upstream/geeqie/src/preferences.c:1031: undefined 
reference to `GTK_FONT_CHOOSER'
   /home/klaus/devel/upstream/geeqie/src/preferences.c:1031: undefined 
reference to `gtk_font_chooser_get_font_desc'

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

2016-05-15 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

First, don't get me wrong, I like the feature. You might have seen that
I like all the GPS stuff around and having a application that work with
it is great.

On the other hand I am looking at the user base. And there, it is not
the biggest feature.

And when it comes to GTK3, I see all the down draws it has. GTK3 is that
bad, user wise, than all the gnome stuff present days. I hate the way it
is going.

Am So den 15. Mai 2016 um 17:26 schrieb Colin Clark:
> I can get an image flickering problem if I resize the image window - but 
> this depends on some combination of several things:
> If the image is scaled 1:1/fit-to-window/Gnome/XFCE etc.

Well, I usually use it on fvwm2. I dried many other desktop environments
and always came back to that.
- - Gnome is just more and more trying to treat the user as a child and
  keep him from being the one that drives the computer.
- - KDE is better that far but I do not like the resource consumption and
  the 1000 of daemons that it starts.
- - Window maker I tried once and it is not my piece of cake.
- - ratpoison I tried once... :-D
- - i3 was promising but not more.
- - mwm was the old times, never used since then.
- - ...

But I stray away from the subject.

> If people report a problem with the map, I will try to help solve it. 

I believe you. And it can be used with current version just with
explicit enabling. The problem seems not your code than the library it
is using.

However, I think that we can focus on that in 1.4.. I hope to finally
release 1.4 end of the month. (See the issues I choose for inclusion[0])

> But from the mailing list I get the feeling that the map is not a 
> significant function for Geeqie users.

Oh, for me, it is a loved feature. However, as it was proved in the
past, my likings and dislikings are not always the same of other users.
:-)

My thoughts about that are:
- - How can we control, what data is sent to openstreetmap?
- - Is there a way to have it without GTK3 atm?
- - What about such problems like the flickering I described? (From the
  bug reports I learned that users could be picky about that)
- - How is the overall speed

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/milestones/v1.3
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Lat long as a search parameter

2016-05-08 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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HI Colin,

Am Sa den  7. Mai 2016 um 16:18 schrieb Colin Clark:
> The attached patch file implements an additional search function.
> 
> The user may search for geocoded images within a radius of a geographical
> point.

Sounds great.

> The point may be set by:
> Typing in lat long, or cut-and-paste from a web search, into the lat/long
> box
> Drag-and-drop a geocoded image onto the box
> Drag-and-drop a hyperlinked place-name from a geonames.org search
> 
> A button to call a geonames.org search is there as a convenience.

I usually don't like external services that potential do profiling.

However, when I read correct, you put that there only as additional
link.

Another thought, maybe you should use nautical miles instead of miles.

> I am interested if anyone has any comments, not least of all if such a
> function should be included into mainstream Geeqie.

Go ahead and build a branch for it. So people are able to test it. (I do
for new big features too but only push them when they are at least
somehow stable.)

> I am not sure if the algorithm I used will be too slow on big searches

That we might be able to improve further. Lets see.

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   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

2016-05-07 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Sa den  7. Mai 2016 um 12:52 schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
> > Hmm... how crazy idea it would be to port Geeqie to Qt5 ?  :)
> I had that idea many times now. I do not like the way, GTK is going to.
> 
> But the work is simply to much to do...

One of the problems is, that Qt is C++ while geeqie is C. It is one
thing to just implement a interface in C++ (exiv2) and another to port
the whole application to use C++ GUI stuff.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

2016-05-07 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Sa den  7. Mai 2016 um 10:11 schrieb Josef Kufner:
> Roger wrote, on 7.5.2016 04:24:
> >> Now I recompiled it completely with gtk-3 and gps support.
> >>
> >> Works that far. But it shows me why I never liked GTK-3.
> >> - - Mouse wheel is not working in lists anymore
> >> - - Buttons and layout are ugly
> >> - - Image display flickers when using map display
> >>
> >> So, recompiling it back with gtk-2. :-(
> > 
> > Ditto concerning gtk-3.  I love gtk, but gtk-3 support looks half-baked, or 
> > half-usable.  Might be considering recompiling all my applications back to 
> > gtk-2 on this note.
> 
> Hmm... how crazy idea it would be to port Geeqie to Qt5 ?  :)

I had that idea many times now. I do not like the way, GTK is going to.

But the work is simply to much to do...

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Logo

2016-05-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Fr den  6. Mai 2016 um 17:43 schrieb Roger:
> >I came to the "bug" report #252 where Martin Kopta made a try for a new
> >logo long ago.
> 
> I'm not finding a bug #252 via sf.net.  I did find a bug #19 logo, but dated 
> 2008.

Not on SF... on Github[0]. SF is dead, dead, dead.

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/issues/252
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

2016-05-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Fr den  6. Mai 2016 um 15:23 schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
> Am Fr den  6. Mai 2016 um 14:52 schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
> > Am Fr den  6. Mai 2016 um  8:58 schrieb Colin Clark:
> > > Time has flown by, and now GPS and electronic maps are part of everyday 
> > > devices - including cameras.
> > > 
> > > Do you think that the GPS  map option should now be set as the default?
> [...]
> > So, lets, at least, start on our side to explicitly compile it with
> > libchamplain support.
> 
> Ha, just had to install libudev-dev manually...
> 
> I installed libchamplain-0.12-dev, libclutter-gtk-1.0-dev and
> libchamplain-gtk-0.12-dev now and enabled via "--enable-gps
> --enable-clutter". (Is clutter always needed? Why not just have the gps
> switch if it is bound to clutter?)
> 
> Compile and went well but...
> 
>(geeqie:10413): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x 
> and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported
> 
> :-(
> 
> So at least under debian, it is not strait forward.

Now I recompiled it completely with gtk-3 and gps support.

Works that far. But it shows me why I never liked GTK-3.
- - Mouse wheel is not working in lists anymore
- - Buttons and layout are ugly
- - Image display flickers when using map display

So, recompiling it back with gtk-2. :-(

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[Geeqie-devel] Debian directory

2016-05-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Sorry Lars, I removed that debian file completely. You can find the
motivation in the commit message.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

2016-05-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Fr den  6. Mai 2016 um 14:52 schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
> Am Fr den  6. Mai 2016 um  8:58 schrieb Colin Clark:
> > Time has flown by, and now GPS and electronic maps are part of everyday 
> > devices - including cameras.
> > 
> > Do you think that the GPS  map option should now be set as the default?
[...]
> So, lets, at least, start on our side to explicitly compile it with
> libchamplain support.

Ha, just had to install libudev-dev manually...

I installed libchamplain-0.12-dev, libclutter-gtk-1.0-dev and
libchamplain-gtk-0.12-dev now and enabled via "--enable-gps
- --enable-clutter". (Is clutter always needed? Why not just have the gps
switch if it is bound to clutter?)

Compile and went well but...

   (geeqie:10413): Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and 
GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported

:-(

So at least under debian, it is not strait forward.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

2016-05-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Fr den  6. Mai 2016 um 14:52 schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
> So, lets, at least, start on our side to explicitly compile it with
> libchamplain support.

Hmm.. At least on debian, this is uninstallable as it has some depending
chain that want to install more new udev than the last working version
215-18.

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[Geeqie-devel] Logo

2016-05-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

I came to the "bug" report #252 where Martin Kopta made a try for a new
logo long ago.

I like his design and I think it is much more mature than the current
one.

So what do you think about changing to his style? And which of them do
you like most?

I did set the milestone to 2.0 so no hurry for the current version but
come up with your thinkings about that.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] GPS maps

2016-05-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Fr den  6. Mai 2016 um  8:58 schrieb Colin Clark:
> Time has flown by, and now GPS and electronic maps are part of everyday 
> devices - including cameras.
> 
> Do you think that the GPS  map option should now be set as the default?

I like the solution. However, the last time I tried, it was in bad
shape. I believe, there is some work needed.

Maybe we can designate it for version 2.0 or maybe for 1.4. I do not
thing that we should do it for 1.3.

I just looked who was the original author, and seen that it was you. :-)

So, lets, at least, start on our side to explicitly compile it with
libchamplain support.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Git repository workflow

2016-05-05 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Do den  5. Mai 2016 um 13:02 schrieb Colin Clark:
> > I now set version in configure.in using the short commit release.
> >
> > That is not perfect as it will not be rebuild with a subsequent make but
> > at least it is a start.
> >
> > For Release this need to be set manually as before. Maybe I can make a
> > better solution or someone comes up with one.
> I am not sure if this is a problem or not.
> 
> My local installation is now putting the help files into:
> 
> /usr/local/share/doc/geeqie-6faca40

Well, that is somehow expectable. I don't know if we should change that
as it has pro and cons.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Git repository workflow

2016-05-03 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Di den  3. Mai 2016 um 13:06 schrieb Josef Kufner:
> Klaus Ethgen wrote, on 3.5.2016 12:30:
> > For Release this need to be set manually as before. Maybe I can make a
> > better solution or someone comes up with one.
> 
> Is there really a difference between release build and ordinary build?
> Does it have to be?

I would say so:
- - Release build must not fail
- - Release build has a version (not a hash number
- - Release build only receive stable and/or security patches

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Git repository workflow

2016-05-02 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Mo den  2. Mai 2016 um 11:04 schrieb Russel Winder:
> > I do manually sync them one between the other currently. So if you
> > have
> > a pull request on Github, it will work too currently.
> 
> So I guess the Issues on this repository are the official p[lace to
> post issues on the code?

Well, it is the only place, we have currently.

> > But with git it doesn't really matter which is main and which is
> > mirror.
> > Both have the same content. (Most of the time)
> 
> The "most of the time" is actually the crucial bit in ,any cases, hence
> my question about which is the mainline.

Th "most of the time" just mean that there might be one or two commits
more on geeqie.org that will end in Github later.

> > Colin and myself currently are working primary on geeqie.org. It is
> > most
> > likely that this repository is the most current one.
> > 
> I'll post in the issues if appropriate: the question I have at the
> moment is that the about box seems woefully out of date, as is "geeqie
> --version". I am fairly sure I am compiling master HEAD.

Well, that is only in the head. If you checkout current released version
1.2.3, you have a actual version there.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Git repository workflow

2016-05-02 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Russel,

Am Mo den  2. Mai 2016 um  8:56 schrieb Russel Winder:
> Is the Git repository on www.geeqie.org the mainline and the one on
> GitHub (https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie) a mirror or is the
> one on GitHub the mainline and the one on www.geeqie.org a mirror? 

The one on www.geeqie.org is the main one.

I do manually sync them one between the other currently. So if you have
a pull request on Github, it will work too currently.

But with git it doesn't really matter which is main and which is mirror.
Both have the same content. (Most of the time)

Colin and myself currently are working primary on geeqie.org. It is most
likely that this repository is the most current one.

Gruß
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Gone missing sourceforge file

2016-04-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Sa den 30. Apr 2016 um 15:45 schrieb Colin Clark:
> He had to use my personal email because he got blocked from responding 
> on sourceforge.
> 
> His email address is in the domain  @science.su.
> 
> Do you have any ideas about this - does sourceforge operate a blacklist?

Maybe. That is somehow intransparent. I will not spend much effort into
that as hopefully we find a way to migrate it away from SF too.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Gone missing sourceforge file

2016-04-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am Fr den 29. Apr 2016 um 21:45 schrieb Colin Clark:
> Has anyone kept a copy of this file?:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/geeqie/wiki/GuideEditorsConfig
> 
> 
> Wishful thinking probably, but I thought I would try

I only backed up bugs, feature-requests, patches and support-requests.
Sorry.

But I didn't delete wiki there. Trac on the other hand, is gone long
ago.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] [BestImageViewer/geeqie] Use Formatted Renaming wrong and you'll lose your pictures, PERMANENTLY! (#380)

2016-04-28 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Do den 28. Apr 2016 um 18:27 schrieb Colin Clark:
> > Which makes me believe that it is #377.
> This patch came from a post by Jonathan Boeing on the sourceforge 
> mailing-list.
> 
> I put it into the repository without a github Issue number being raised.
> 
> In the commit comment I should have put a link to the entry in the 
> sourceforge mailing-list, so that there was traceability to the origin 
> of the patch.

Ah, no problem about that. I just learned myself of how to close bugs
with a commit message[0] recently.

As I migrated all bugs to github and made bugs in SF readonly, I think
we should at least close them if possible. There are to many bugs and
nobody have a real overview over them.

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://help.github.com/articles/closing-issues-via-commit-messages/
Note that you have to add fix (or likely) for every bug. Enlisting
them in one fix line does only close the first bug.
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] [patch] Fullscreen fix

2016-04-28 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Do den 28. Apr 2016 um 19:03 schrieb Colin Clark:
> On 21/04/16 20:13, Josef Kufner wrote:
> > Good news everyone,
> >
> > I managed to fix the fullscreen mode. At least it looks fixed for me :)
> > -- Tested on multi-screen setup on KDE5.
> >
> > Here is the pull request:
> > https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/pull/379
> >
> > What do you say? Does it work for you?
> >
[...]
> Your patch eliminates this problem for me. So, yes, it works for me too.

Yes, this fixes several full-screen problems. Merged and pushed to both,
github and main repo.

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] [BestImageViewer/geeqie] Use Formatted Renaming wrong and you'll lose your pictures, PERMANENTLY! (#380)

2016-04-26 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am Di den 26. Apr 2016 um 14:38 schrieb caclark:
> On 24/04/16 19:15, MrDrizz wrote:
> > So if you use the Formatted Renaming tool and you forget to add ## for 
> > the sequence number. Geeqie will *DELETE* all the selected pictures, 
> > and this seems to be ** PERMANENT! **
> > There seems no way to recover from this, the pictures are gone, not in 
> > the wastebasket, not hidden.
> >
> > So make sure you have backups of your pictures before doing a mass rename.
> >
> > ???
> > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.
> > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub 
> > <https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/issues/380>
> The master branch in the repository at geeqie.org now has a commit that 
> eliminates this problem.

I think, you refer to Bug #377, not #380...?

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Statistics

2016-04-13 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Mi den 13. Apr 2016 um 16:47 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
> On 2016-04-13 09:08 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> 
> > Maybe we can use that a bit for the visibility of the page. Maybe we
> > can make it more interesting for users from America.
> 
> One possible reason for fewer USian vists is no https support (well, the
> server listens on 443, but with a self-signed certificate and if you go
> past that, you get a 403 error).

Well, it is selfsigned as I use SNI for the host and the first cert is
selfsigned. I thought of getting a cert for geeqie.org to. But it will
never be such a stupid one than lets encrypt as that expires every month
or three and just trains users to accept a new one. The only CA that is
at least a bit trustable is CACert but this is not existent in most
browsers. On the other hand, my registrar does not support dnssec (the
one for de and org) so I cannot setup TLSA for that domain.

I know that I swim against the stream regarding that. But HTTPS is so
broken that there is no real security improvement in using it. For
example as long as such registrars like turktrust or verisign or others
are in all the browsers, there is no security. TLSA via DNSSEC is a
solution but the most browsers ignore that and DNSSEC is not widely
enough spread.

But long story short, I do not believe that this is the reason.

> Another possible reason is the rise of Tor :-)

Well, You think that all users in America uses Tor? I do not. :-)

Regards
   Klaus
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[Geeqie-devel] Statistics

2016-04-13 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

I pushed the weblog of geeqie.org through awstats and see some
interesting facts.

- - Far most of our Users come from the wikipedia page. (en)
- - Second most is duckduckgo.
- - Google is not a factor, only few people search our page via google.
- - Starting from 7. April I see a slightly higher pagehit. I believe that
  to be because of SF page change.
- - As far as geoip is trustable, our main users are from Italy followed
  by Swiss, USA and Germany, all three with similar hits. From that and
  that USA is so much bigger, I think, they are not a big factor.

Maybe we can use that a bit for the visibility of the page. Maybe we can
make it more interesting for users from America.

Of course, that is only a small snapshot, only from April. But maybe it
is useful.

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Release 1.2.3

2016-04-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Di den 12. Apr 2016 um 21:07 schrieb DrSlony:
> >> I see that version 1.2.3 has been released, but the website has not 
> >> been
> >> updated adequately.
> > 
> > Well, it  has. But I also had the problem that firefox caching strategy
> > is to aggressive. Just force reload.
> 
> It was not a caching issue, and I don't use Firefox.
> For example, the first paragraph:
> "Geeqie is currently (April 2016) on stable release 1.2.3, and actively 
> being developed by a number of contributors, with upcoming maintenance 
> release v1.2.3 and feature release 1.3. both expected in March 2016." So 
> 1.2.3 and 1.3 are both upcoming and expected in March... But there were 
> multiple other issues which I addressed.

Ah, that, yes, I did overlooked that. As told, web design is not my cup
of tea. ;-)

By the way, your version is online since about 30 Minutes. :-D

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Project status

2016-04-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Pat David,

Sorry about the delay. I have some changings in my RL that keeps me
busy.

Am Do den 10. Mär 2016 um 19:38 schrieb Pat David:
[objectives for pixls.us]

> I just recently finished porting www.gimp.org to a new design and
> infrastructure and I feel like geeqie.org shouldn't be as big an
> endeavor? :)

Well, not fully. ;-)

> I tend to favor static websites personally.

Me too. And I like web pages that are browser agnostic. Meaning,
JavaScript, if used, is only adding some non functional stuff so the
page can be visited with even w3m or any other browser even hardened
with noscript or scripts disabled at all and no cookies, no third party
content, ...

I know I am a bit paranoid. But this way it reaches the most people;
even people who are blind or have other disabilities. (Although they are
not the main users of photo related tools. ;-)

> This way the only requirements on the web server side is just that, a
> web server (apache, ngnix, whatever).

When I control the web server, that is something I can decide. :-D

> If there _is_ interest, I'd be happy to go through things
> further to help get a process/infrastructure in place.  (For instance, at
> www.gimp.org, we use Pelican (Python static site generator) on the server
> and have cronjobs git pull from the repo to rebuild and host on a schedule).

I use wml for all my private pages. (And bins for my albums.) It allows
high flexibility.. Nevertheless, the current geeqie.org web pages are
not that complex that it needs a generator. HTML is not that complex to
learn to write.

> I realize that many of you may not be fans of forums, but if you haven't
> had a chance to check out the work that's been done on discourse (
> http://www.discourse.org/) I think you may be pleasantly surprised.  For
> instance, if we had a category just for Geeqie, all of your interactions
> with the forum/community can still be done just like a mailing list.

Well, I already told, I dream of a system usable and accessible that
easy than NNTP groups. And as I told above, I like to have stuff working
in secure environments. JavaScript is something that I hate, hate much
like PHP.

Regards
   Klaus
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[Geeqie-devel] Release 1.2.3

2016-04-12 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

I released release v1.2.3. To be honst, I did already tag the version
some days ago but did retag it with a signed tag yesterday and updated
web page today.

This might be the last 1.2 release. The next will be 2.0 or 1.3. I
didn't decide until now. Opinions are welcome. I tend to 1.3.

I also migrated all bugs from SF to GitHub and disabled them over there.
Also SF has no git (or SVN) repository anymore. I hope that helps
bringing the people to the current page.

About GitHub, I already explained that I don't like it too much but will
keep it up2date. Also I think the GitHub issue tracker is better than
having none at all or the SF one. I even found a tool to import them to
taskwarrior. ;-)

Colin Clark also seems to be studiously; thanks, Colin. I added him as a
contributor to GitHub too so he can take and update issues.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Issue #329 easier way to get cwd when copying

2016-04-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

I found you now. caclark.. :-D

Am Mo den 11. Apr 2016 um 19:47 schrieb Colin Clark:
> https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/issues/329

I assigned that task to you now. :-)

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Issue #329 easier way to get cwd when copying

2016-04-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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By the way, what is your github handle? crclark96?

Gruß
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Issue #329 easier way to get cwd when copying

2016-04-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Mo den 11. Apr 2016 um 19:47 schrieb Colin Clark:
> https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/issues/329

I had to read that issue many times to know what it is about.

> A bookmark with the name "." is treated as a special case. Each time it is
> displayed, it is loaded with the path of Geeqie's current working folder.

Looks nice.

> Existing users who want this functionality will have to create a new
> bookmark and rename it to ".".

Hmm.. That is the second case where existing users have to do something
manually. We have to find a better way to handle it.

> I am not sure how to communicate information such as this to existing Geeqie
> users. I doubt that many are readers of this mailing list, and I doubt that
> anyone reads the ChangeLog or NEWS files.

I agree.

> Maybe a pop-up window that is triggered on the first-time run after a
> version number change, and change the minor or micro version number whenever
> a material commit is made...

Maybe. Optimal would be that the first run with the new version updates
it. But only that single time. This would depend on recording the
current version in configurations.

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[Geeqie-devel] SF

2016-04-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

Thanks to Petr Ostadal, I was able to change the SF-page, disabled the
bugtracker access for new bugs and exported them to github. Also I
removed git and SVN from it as we have better one.

Unfortunatelly, the import to github does not allow to create tickets
for others so I am the issue creator for all of them now. However, the
migration was made with gosf2github[0]. Unfortunatelly I did not tag
specially "bug" and "feature-request" but the rest is tagged with
"patch" or "support-request".

There are two open tickets already assigned to zas. ;-) The rest is
unassigned.

Regards
   Klaus

[0] git://github.com/cmungall/gosf2github.git
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Cloning geeqie

2016-03-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Sa den 26. Mär 2016 um 14:16 schrieb Colin Clark:
> If I clone from git://www.geeqie.org/geeqie.git, I get all commits.
> 
> If I clone from http://www.geeqie.org/git/geeqie.git, the last commit is 
> dated Sep 27 2015.

Should be fixed now.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Cloning geeqie

2016-03-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi, Hi Lars,

Am Di den 29. Mär 2016 um 10:18 schrieb Lars Ellenberg:
> > If I clone from git://www.geeqie.org/geeqie.git, I get all commits.
> > 
> > If I clone from http://www.geeqie.org/git/geeqie.git, the last commit is 
> > dated Sep 27 2015.
> 
> Klaus, this may be just a missing "git update-server-info"?
> Put an "exec git update-server-info" into hooks/post-update,
> or enable it, if it's already there.

Yes, I know, I just didn't get to find time to fix it. Not that big deal
although.

On the other hand, I was expecting gitolite to do it automatical. Seems
not the case.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Project status

2016-03-10 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Zas,

Am Do den 10. Mär 2016 um 16:02 schrieb Laurent Monin:
> > That would be helpful. But I didn't hear from him since ages.
> I'm still around, and reading this ml ;)
> But i have no time to work on geeqie.

That is ok. I know that, my time is also limited.

But I even got no answer from my last mail to you..

However, could you please add my sourceforge recovery account "eecheey6"
(Yes, it looks like a password but that is my account I created explicit
for that purpose.) to the sourceforge geeqie project that we can at
least solve that problem. Vlad also doesn't react.

> Though i'm quite happy the project still lives.

I try my very best.

> About using github, it isn't as bad you think Klaus ;)

:-)

> Lars made some good points about the current situation, website is awful
> and non-attractive, and users can easily get lost among various source
> repos.

Well, thats the reason why I don't want to move again. The current one
is simple but very stable (As I have full control over it ;-).

> So i'm totally with him on this. A simple user-oriented website, with
> clear information about the current state of the project is a must.

I am with him too. And I already put his page online.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Project status

2016-03-10 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi,

Am Do den 10. Mär 2016 um 14:45 schrieb Lars Ellenberg:
> > > 3. You lack a place where users can interact without having to sell a 
> > > kidney (mailing lists...).
> > 
> > Well, here I don't agree. What is so bad with registering on a mailing
> > list? Even without registering, you can mail to it although, from the
> > fact that it is on sourceforge, nobody is seing that mails. But the
> > concept of a mailing list allows that.
> 
> I stongly prefer mailinglist to "forums" or other web crap.
> Anything that makes me use the mouse gets annoyance points ;-)

I personal feel the same. The mouse is an evil device. :-D

[Github]
> > - - It does not play well with a own domain
> 
> ... but, github pages ...
> https://help.github.com/articles/custom-domain-redirects-for-github-pages-sites/

That I didn't know. Does it work with SSL too? (Not that geeqie.org is
SSL currently but when TLSA comes more used I have plans to put https
in use.)

> > - - It needs you to switch on javascript, cookies, some cross-domain-stuff
> >   and more insecure technologies.
> > - - It needs a separate account (one more (Oh, I have one but don't like
> >   it))
> 
> I still invited you into the just created Github "organisation"
> BestImageViewer, and you accepted ;-)

:-)

> I also invited zas.

That would be helpful. But I didn't hear from him since ages.

> Feel free to invite more devs,

Well, vlad... But he is also retired. And I even don't know if he have a
github account.

> > - - It is a pain in the ass to use. It takes me always ages to find a
> >   functionality like bugtracker or how to merge pull requests or even
> >   how to fork
> 
> If you agree to use it,
> git clone git://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie
> 
> push url is: g...@github.com:BestImageViewer/geeqie.git

Yea, I know that; after long time trying it out.

> Issue and pull request comments work good enough via email.  Both issues
> and pull requests can be dealt with via git command line as well.

I know that there _is_ a way for pull requests. (I don't know how
recently.) They are similar to gitorious but not identical and I think,
more hidden.

Another one is to create forks or simple pull requests. I do not know if
that is possible at all with git command line on github.

For Issues I do not know even that it is possible.

Such Stuff is pretty good hidden away from the user on github. There is
no single documentation (that I know) for that stuff.

> but working with various projects I learned that you can perfectly use
> github without even interacting with its web frontend most of the time.

Yea. I did some with github too. But often I come to the end to send
patches by mail to that author. That is fare more easy.

> Though I still need some time to remember the cheat sheet ;)

Would be helpful.

> > I will not be a complete show stopper for Github. But currently I seem
> > to be the only active developer and I vote strongly against it.
> > And I know that past devs also did. We agreed to not go to github.
> 
> Oh. In that case, apologies for jumping the gun there.
> If it is ok for you, I'd drive it as strict mirror repo for now.

No problem with that. Git allows to have a de central development model.
I just don't want to have unfree github as main source for geeqie.

> BTW, I did not realize the web page was already part of the geeqie repo.
> Even better.

Sure it is. Currently I do manually copy them over but this is just a
small step.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Project status

2016-03-10 Thread Klaus Ethgen
definitely wouldn't - the only reason I'm here is because I like
> Geeqie so much I wanted to help make it look alive and well, and my
> email didn't make it to your mailing list the first time I sent it
> before signing up. I honestly can't wait to sign out of the mailing
> list - they're a thing from the 90s.

Was is bad with simple stuff like mailing lists? They just work. True,
usenet news group would be even better but as I said above, there are
not such a big userbase left there. (Although, there are some very
active groups like LaTeX, Motor cycle, sailing, flying, ...)

> If you use GitHub you get to retain your commit history,

Well, that is not the reason of github, it is git, that retain the
commit history.

And coming to myself, I am always having trouble to find history stuff
on github UI.

> you get a fast and well-working bug tracking facility which is tightly
> integrated with git (you can even close an issue/ticket directly
> though a commit, by putting "closes #123" in the commit message),

The last point sounds promising. But see above for the other concerns
about that.

> you get a wiki, and perhaps most importantly you become immediately
> exposed to hundreds of other developers who will then have less
> "resistance" to contribute a patch or even just a good bug report to
> Geeqie. We (RawTherapee) have been through a number of source code
> management services, most recently google-code, and GitHub is by far
> the best.

Github is one of the most promising ones. That is true. It lacks of easy
access to bugs/Wiki(I even didn't know that they have and frankly,
cannot find it still)/commits except the most recent one. It also needs
you to sign up with much more information than just a mail address for
most of the stuff.

I will not be a complete show stopper for Github. But currently I seem
to be the only active developer and I vote strongly against it. And I
know that past devs also did. We agreed to not go to github.

Further more I do not want to migrate to yet another place in the web.
After Gitorious disaster, I think, Geeqie should settle down on one uniq
place for now. That is the reason why I purchased and contributed the
domain.

With every move we lost more people on the way. For geeqie that could be
fatal.

For now, I would, therefor, stay on geeqie.org and the simple gitweb.
Feel free to overvote me in future. :-)

Nevertheless, We could have another contact way on the home page. For
example putting an contact e-mail address there. For example
cont...@geeqie.org or such. Currently there is none of that. I can also
think of having the main contributors on with mail contact on the
homepage itself.

However, if you find a promising way, go ahead. If you can help with
stuff, go ahead. As you seen yesterday, Lars Ellenberg already took the
opportunity and improved the current web page.

I hope, I didn't demotivated you. It is not my intention.

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://github.com/ralphbean/bugwarrior
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Project status

2016-03-09 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Mi den  9. Mär 2016 um 21:14 schrieb Lars Ellenberg:
> Feel free to use it, or massage it some more.  Or not.
>  ;-)

Thanks again. I only had to do some small massage; see [0] and [1].

Regards
   Klaus

[0] 
http://www.geeqie.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=geeqie.git;a=commitdiff;h=b333c04435380dfce208e795c4b148700d6faee3
[1] 
http://www.geeqie.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=geeqie.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbcf4618c412e45eb3c7a9fe24fca349e9d2d583
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[Geeqie-devel] New release

2016-03-07 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

I plan to release next minor version v1.2.3 in the next days which is
just a bugfix release. If you have something you think that should it
make into that version too, just tell me.

Future more I plan to release v1.3 around mid or end of April. That
version will have some minor feature stuff and being the current master
branch.

So if you have some cool but stable feature or some bugfixes or others,
drop me a note privately or here on the list.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Project status

2016-03-07 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi folks,

Am Mo den  7. Mär 2016 um  2:15 schrieb DrSlony:
> Geeqie has been my favorite image viewer for a long time, but I'm 
> troubled by the status of the project.
> 
> First there is the multiple dead websites issue. There is
> http://www.geeqie.org/
> and there is also
> http://geeqie.sourceforge.net/
> These are almost identical, and both appear to be quite dead. For 
> instance, the front page of both reads:
> "Geeqie is currently short before releasing stable release 1.0"

Well, the later is dead as all that are able to edit it, are not active
or even reachable anymore.

www.geeqie.org is current but nobody cares about doing stuff here. My
priority for updating website is much lower than fixing bugs.

> Then there is the status of the project itself. The project looks dead, 
> and most people think it is. When one looks for the code, one ends up at 
> this very slow to load page
> https://sourceforge.net/p/geeqie/git/commit_browser

That repository is not used anymore. Sourceforge is a untrusted and evil
hoster that modifies downloads. So do not trust them.

Please look at http://www.geeqie.org/ for the current one.
(http://geeqie.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=geeqie.git)

> But if, for some reason, one keeps digging, one might end up here
> http://www.geeqie.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=geeqie.git

Well, there is a link on the website.

> Clearly still alive. But it lacks any way of getting in contact with 
> you.

What about this mailinglist? Well, it is still on sourceforge as we
don't have other currently.

There is even the information in whois if you need my technical
contact.

The last is to look into the git commits. There are always the full
E-Mail addresses.

> When I click on the developers, I see their commits, but not way of 
> getting in touch.

Use a native git client or click on the commit.

> I don't know if this email will reach the right people, I really have no 
> idea how to get in touch with the active developers, but if I do, I 
> propose to help improve this situation.
> 
> Are you interested?

Sure. If you find something to improve... Just come up with a git
formated patch or a bundle.

Am Mo den  7. Mär 2016 um  7:21 schrieb Roger:
> geeqie-1.2-r1 seems to be the latest stable on my distro,

What distribution are you using? They should use more recent version
witch has many bugfixes implemented currently.

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Resource leak in Geeqie 1.2 on debian jessie?

2016-02-26 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Do den 25. Feb 2016 um 23:25 schrieb Hartmut Niemann:
> My geeqie consumes HUGE amounts of main memory and every other day 
> crashes the X server.
> 
> I mean: I flip through two or three directories of 100 photos each and I 
> can watch
> the (buffers?) memory rise in the GByte range.
> After some usage, the thumbnail view starts having problems, showing 
> about half of the thumbnails,
> the rest is just white
> (showing different thumbnails when I choose a different photo and the 
> thumbnail view is redrawn).
> 
> When these problems start and I continue using it, sometimes it is 
> aborted with some X error message
> (next time I copy it to a file, I promise), sometimes X crashes and I am 
> back to the login screen.

I seen that behaviour before but not recently (And I also have dirs with
high amount of files).

I suspect that bug to have to do with some library problem. (I use
debian sid.)

Am Fr den 26. Feb 2016 um  1:36 schrieb John Stoffel:
> git://geeqie.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/geeqie/geeqie
> 
> and building it and letting us know what happens?

Never use that repository. We migrated away from sourceforge long ago.
The last commit on that repository is from end of 2010(!). Sourceforge
is a company that is not trustworthy as they bundles malware with
downloads. (Although the company has changed since then but the trust is
sustainable destroyed.)

The current repository is git://www.geeqie.org/geeqie.git

I did some bugfixing recently in master branch but that does not address
this particular issue.

Current version in debian is 1.2.2-2 which met upstream and there is
already one bugfix commit on release branch ahead waiting for the next
release.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Bugtracker (Was: NULL-ptr crash in image_read_ahead_done_cb())

2016-01-29 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Flos,

Am Fr den 29. Jan 2016 um 15:51 schrieb Flos Lonicerae:
[discussion about right or wrong bugtracker]
> > Also needs separate account. I already told you, the Debian one is the
> > greatest in my opinion. Nevertheless this Bugwarior project seems to be
> > very promising.
> >
> >> The primary problem with Geeqie's own bug tracker at sf.net is that nobody
> >> seems to pay attention to the tickets anymore. Whether bug reports should 
> >> be
> >> sent to this list instead, nobody knows.
> >
> > True. :-(
> 
> Hmm... I can help to check the issues periodically and then forward
> the issues to this mailing list.

Any help would be appreciated.

I "dream" of a software solution that helps prioritize bugs and keep
track on it. However, a list of unique bugs in a more or less simple
form would be helpful from the begin. (And not-a-bug bugs sorted out)

> >> Same for Debian. Bugs filed in a distribution's bug tracker may be
> >> specific to the distribution.
> >
> > I am subscribed to the debian one and do whatever I can to answer and/or
> > fix them.
> >
> 
> It's a good news for Debian users. :) But users from other distros may
> find it hard to report the issues or we may miss the issue they hit.

I know, and that is what I do not like.

> > Geeqie needs new People who help with it. And it needs the help of old
> > people who have invented some great features that, unfortunatelly, added
> > also new bugs.
> >
> > After the SF and Gitorious debacle, I bought the domain geeqie.org to
> > always point to the real project page. If some dev insist I would easily
> > hand over it. I do not like that it hangs on my person only.
> >
> > But currently there are some bugs and I seems to be the only one who is
> > trying to hold it together. But I cannot fix all bugs. I am also more
> > the backend dev. Bugs in Frontend would need many time to fix that I
> > unadorned not have.
> >
> 
> I think I can help in the testing part. I use RHEL/CentOS/Debian daily.

That could be the hardest job. I know of some bug reports that is not
easily to reproduce. And without being able to clearly reproduce, it is
hard to fix it in most of the time.

I do not think of a unit test system as I am even not sure if we can
implement one for a GUI application. But some easy steps to reproduce a
bug would be a begin.

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[Geeqie-devel] Bugtracker (Was: NULL-ptr crash in image_read_ahead_done_cb())

2016-01-17 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am So den 17. Jan 2016 um 19:08 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 09:26:50 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> 
> > But this bug also shows something else. Currently there are bug reports
> > on several platforms:
> > - - Sourceforge, which sucks
> > - - github, which sucks too
> > - - Debian bugtracker, which sucks less
> > - - Bugzilla which is a pain in the ass
> > - - ...
> > 
> > Some of the bugs are overlapping and no way to work on the bugs really.
> > At least, one needs an account in all bugtrackers (except debian ones).
> > 
> > I believe, there is no one in here who have a overview over them all.
> 
> Then, for heaven's sake, why has the Geeqie project used the sf.net
> bug tracker for several years? It can be disabled via the project admin
> interface. No tracker => no tickets that end up in nirvana.

Cause I do not have access to it (As I did delete my SF account long
ago). And the one that has access (Vlad) seems to be retired. :-(

> And if all those bug trackers suck in your opinion, is there one,
> which you like? Some people like "trac", e.g. the fedorahosted.org project
> service uses it.

Also needs separate account. I already told you, the Debian one is the
greatest in my opinion. Nevertheless this Bugwarior project seems to be
very promising.

> The primary problem with Geeqie's own bug tracker at sf.net is that nobody
> seems to pay attention to the tickets anymore. Whether bug reports should be
> sent to this list instead, nobody knows.

True. :-(

> Same for Debian. Bugs filed in a distribution's bug tracker may be
> specific to the distribution.

I am subscribed to the debian one and do whatever I can to answer and/or
fix them.

> It could be a bug in exiv2 or an API change. Whatever. If the distribution
> package user reported that at Geeqie's sf.net bug tracker directly, the
> downstream package would remain broken, unless a new Geeqie release would
> fix it (or if the downstream packager would notice a fix in upstream git).
> But if it's a bug in exiv2, activity would need to shift to that package
> and/or upstream project.

There are many bugs on SF that are invalid as not the problem of Geeqie
and there are many that are already fixed long ago. This is a problem as
the list gets only longer and it is nearly impossible to sort them in a
useful way.

Geeqie needs new People who help with it. And it needs the help of old
people who have invented some great features that, unfortunatelly, added
also new bugs.

After the SF and Gitorious debacle, I bought the domain geeqie.org to
always point to the real project page. If some dev insist I would easily
hand over it. I do not like that it hangs on my person only.

But currently there are some bugs and I seems to be the only one who is
trying to hold it together. But I cannot fix all bugs. I am also more
the backend dev. Bugs in Frontend would need many time to fix that I
unadorned not have.

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   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] NULL-ptr crash in image_read_ahead_done_cb()

2016-01-17 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Michael and Flos,

Am Fr den  7. Aug 2015 um 22:49 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> Full backtrace: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1027647
> 
> Patch: 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1060482=diff=patch==1=raw
> 
> --- geeqie/src/image.c.bak2014-11-30 13:07:06.0 +0200
> +++ geeqie/src/image.c.bak2015-08-07 23:18:55.019350782 +0300
> @@ -475,6 +475,8 @@ static void image_read_ahead_done_cb(Ima
>  {
>   ImageWindow *imd = data;
>  
> + if (!imd->read_ahead_fd || !imd->read_ahead_il) return;
> +
>   DEBUG_1("%s read ahead done for :%s", get_exec_time(), 
> imd->read_ahead_fd->path);
>  
>   if (!imd->read_ahead_fd->pixbuf)
Am Sa den 16. Jan 2016 um 16:43 schrieb Flos Lonicerae:
> I see the patch of the bug:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/p/geeqie/mailman/message/34356176/
> 
> has been applied as the commit 4749987ff8a0e32047a2db6b0ffb02b1ed27e192:
> 
> http://www.geeqie.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=geeqie.git;a=commit;h=4749987ff8a0e32047a2db6b0ffb02b1ed27e192
> 
> Actually I also hit this issue last year and opened a bug in debian:
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=771123
> 
> There I wrote a similar patch to Michael's, indeed it was an ugly
> patch, to jump over the issue. Just as Michael said in Red Hat's
> bugzilla:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223349#c15
> 
> I agreed that there should be "some race-condition" in geeqie, and I
> also provided the 90% reproducable steps in the debian bug.

I somehow missed that bug. However, there are race conditions for sure.
It is how the event model of GTK+ works. But that should be handled
proper.

> Is it possible to find out the root cause behind this issue?

Would be nice. Maybe Vlad can have a look into it as I think, it is the
part he worked on very hard.

But this bug also shows something else. Currently there are bug reports
on several platforms:
- - Sourceforge, which sucks
- - github, which sucks too
- - Debian bugtracker, which sucks less
- - Bugzilla which is a pain in the ass
- - ...

Some of the bugs are overlapping and no way to work on the bugs really.
At least, one needs an account in all bugtrackers (except debian ones).

I believe, there is no one in here who have a overview over them all.

I try to find a meta bugtracker (best command line) and found bugwarrior
currently which I will try to get working. However, in the mean time it
is hard to work with bug reports.

Regards
   Klaus
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[Geeqie-devel] New old features (Was: 2 things I miss from gqview)

2015-11-18 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Mi den 18. Nov 2015 um 12:37 schrieb Rodney D. Myers:
> 1. the ability to rotate images, and have it write the image as a
> correctly identified image file. I get sent multiple images that
> worker claims are not valid images. I just rotate left, then back to
> get the file header corrected
> 
> 2. the ability to auto-rename files on the fly. useful for
> people/programs name their stuff with simple names

I recently thought of some thinks that was partly available in gqview
but isn't in geeqie and partly new.

- - Rename and copy method that is aware of metafiles (thumbnails,
  metadata, ...)
  We had that in gqview but when I move/rename files in geeqie, I loose
  all metadata. (I usually like to have the metadata in .metadata
  directory.)
  I think about also adding Lua methods for that.
- - Sorting by similarity, that is something new and I don't currently
  have an idea how to do it. I want to have a visible sorting by
  similarity.
  Likewise as before I want to implement some Lua hooks to make it easy
  to implement more sorting ways.
- - Pattern aware Rename as we had in old gqview. That should be more
  powerful to allow using image metadata. As before, with Lua
  integration.
- - Give a better way to use Lua at all on userside. I have no idea about
  how to do it but  it might be needed to encourage users to use it.

Regards
   Klaus
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[Geeqie-devel] Trouble in optimisation of c++ string handling

2015-10-31 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi Friends,

David Kalnischkies did a good find in new libstdc++5 that recently
occurred in debian. I forwarded the full message from bug report for you
to know.

For David, thanks for the good finding. I will consider the patch or
just do it more simple as having a local scope temporary variable or
even using strncpy. Geeqie is usually plain C and only the exif part is
done in c++ for the reason, the exiv2 bindings are c++ only.

Regards
   Klaus
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Hi,

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:56:12AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> The older version displays the same image as having 3872x2592px. I would
> bet the newer version picks up a thumbnail stored in the NEF file or
> something like that.

The problem is rooted in the libstdc++5 transition as with it they
transitioned to have a c++11-standard compatible std::string
implementation. Previously it was a copy-on-write implementation, now it
is one with small-string optimisation.

So code like this:
|  const char* path = exif->image()->io().path().c_str();
results in path being a dangling pointer now as the std::string returned
by .path() on which .c_str() is called (which returns the char*) leaves
scope instantly and hence the internal char[] the pointer is pointing to
is freed…

It worked before as the std::string returned by .path() was a copy of
another std::string, so the char pointer is still pointing to a valid
location. At least as long as the copy source remains. Change the
"unrelated" code a bit so its not a copy anymore and suddently this code
explodes…

(No worries, this isn't by far the only application with this problem
– it is just more likely that it results in a crash instead of not
detecting a file as RAW in most other applications ;) )

Anyway, upstream should probably look for more instances as the attached
patch is likely incomplete. It just got the NEF previews working again
for me.


Best regards

David Kalnischkies
diff --git a/src/exiv2.cc b/src/exiv2.cc
index 455c8d3..98029cd 100644
--- a/src/exiv2.cc
+++ b/src/exiv2.cc
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
 #include 
 #include 
 #include 
+#include 
 
 // EXIV2_TEST_VERSION is defined in Exiv2 0.15 and newer.
 #ifndef EXIV2_TEST_VERSION
@@ -1130,9 +1131,9 @@ guchar *exif_get_preview(ExifData *exif, guint *data_len, gint requested_width,
 
 	if (!exif->image()) return NULL;
 	
-	const char* path = exif->image()->io().path().c_str();
+	std::string const path = exif->image()->io().path();
 	/* given image pathname, first do simple (and fast) file extension test */
-	gboolean is_raw = filter_file_class(path, FORMAT_CLASS_RAWIMAGE);
+	gboolean is_raw = filter_file_class(path.c_str(), FORMAT_CLASS_RAWIMAGE);
 	
 	if (!is_raw && requested_width == 0) return NULL;
 
@@ -1232,10 +1233,10 @@ extern "C" guchar *exif_get_preview(ExifData *exif, guint *data_len, gint reques
 	if (!exif) return NULL;
 	if (!exif->image()) return NULL;
 
-	const char* path = exif->image()->io().path().c_str();
+	std::string const path = exif->image()->io().path();
 
 	/* given image pathname, first do simple (and fast) file extension test */
-	if (!filter_file_class(path, FORMAT_CLASS_RAWIMAGE)) return NULL;
+	if (!filter_file_class(path.c_str(), FORMAT_CLASS_RAWIMAGE)) return NULL;
 
 	try {
 		struct stat st;
@@ -1246,9 +1247,9 @@ extern "C" guchar *exif_get_preview(ExifData *exif, guint *data_len, gint reques
 		
 		RawFile rf(exif->image()->io());
 		offset = rf.preview_offset();
-		DEBUG_1("%s: offset %lu", path, offset);
+		DEBUG_1("%s: offset %lu", path.c_str(), offset);
 		
-		fd = open(path, O_RDONLY);
+		fd = open(path.c_str(), O_RDONLY);
 		if (fd == -1)
 			{
 			return NULL;


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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Full screen mode broken

2015-09-18 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Fr den 18. Sep 2015 um 10:40 schrieb geeqie-de...@stefan-klinger.de:
> > > How can I restore the original Full Screen mode?
> > 
> > Well, I don't believe that it is a problem of this particular version
> > than of something around.
> 
> Hmmm, it started with my last upgrade of geeqie, but I don't want to
> jump to conclusions...

Strange

The fullscreen stuff was not touched between 1.2 and 1.2.*.

Maybe they added some patch that is the reason for it. There was several
patches out there, I believe, origin by ubuntu, that had some massive
problems with fullscreen. Ubuntu seems to only care about specific
setting in gnome window manager and not care much about other window
managers as it looks to me.

> Any ideas how I could find out what causes this?

Not really much. Try to compile it yourself from git and see if the
problem still exists.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Full screen mode broken

2015-09-18 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Stefan,

Am Fr den 18. Sep 2015 um  9:51 schrieb geeqie-de...@stefan-klinger.de:
> I've somehow failed to add to Jeff's bug report [1] on sourceforge,
> that's why I'm writing here.  I'm running Arch Linux as well, and
> 
> $ geeqie --version
> Geeqie 1.2.1
> 
> Hitting `f` to switch to full screen mode creates a window of one
> pixel in size, and prints the message
> 
> fullscreen.c:306: Original vindow is still visible, enabling presentation 
> fullscreen mode
> 
> to stdout.  Under "Preferences/Windows/Full Screen/Location", the
> choice "Determined by Window Manager" is selected.  That would be
> 
> $ fvwm --version
> fvwm 2.6.5 compiled on May 15 2014 at 22:08:55
> with support for: ReadLine, Stroke, XPM, PNG, SVG, Shape, XShm, SM, Bidi 
> text, Xinerama, XRender, XCursor, XFT, NLS

I use the same setup, fvwm and fullscreen set to window manager mode.
But under debian. And all is working fine. I am not able to reproduce
that.

Where did you get geeqie from? Did you compile it yourself? Did you
misss some libraries?

> I've tried the other options as well, all not satisfying.  They behave
> as follows:: Full screen view appears, the message
> 
> fullscreen.c:301: Original vindow is not visible, enabling std. 
> fullscreen mode

That is what I have with the setting above. However, I believe it has
nothing to do with your problem.

> goes to stdout.  This full screen mode is rather annoying, because you
> can easily switch focus to other windows and interact with them, but
> you will never see it because everything is obscured by the full
> screen view.  E.g., pressing `Delete` will open geeqie's "Delete -
> Geeqie" window, but you don't see that.

That is a known problem. I have no solution for that currently. Maybe
the best would be to switch off fullscreen for that. Will see.

> How can I restore the original Full Screen mode?

Well, I don't believe that it is a problem of this particular version
than of something around.

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[Geeqie-devel] Account to change sourceforge

2015-09-18 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

I created a new temporary account on sourceforge to change the infos
over there to point to www.geeqie.org.

Please, can one of the ones that has still an admin account on our
project over there add me?

My account is eecheey6 (Just created by pwgen. ;-)

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] [PATCH] Fix toolbar visibility

2015-09-08 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Vitaly,

Am Mo den  7. Sep 2015 um 22:37 schrieb Vitaly Sinilin:
> and have discovered a couple of small bugs that nobody seem to care
> about. The first one is about the toolbar that is not hidden after
> restart even though the configuration file has the line
> 
> toolbar_hidden = "true"
> 
> and View->Files and Folders->Hide toolbar checkbox is checked.
> 
> This bug was introduced in
> 
> commit b4581c40f8cb47f32d1102589b005d5435e9e297
> Author: Vladimir Nadvornik <nadvor...@suse.cz>
> AuthorDate: Sat Feb 28 09:59:27 2009 +
> 
>  create toolbar from ui_manager
> 
> (So it is already 6.5 years old, huh :)
> 
> I couldn't find a clear statement in the GTK documentation about why
> widgets retrieved via gtk_ui_manager_get_widget() need not to be made
> visible explicitly, so the observed actual behavior on my system is the
> only source I can rely upon.

Good find, applied in master branch.

> I am working on an update for Russian translation of geeqie

Might be needed. We have to little translators I think.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Version 1.2.1

2015-09-07 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Greg,

Am Mo den  7. Sep 2015 um  2:14 schrieb Greg Troxel:
> > I released version 1.2.1 as a bugfix release.
> 
> Is there a tarball on the server, and a download directory?  I can only
> find a git tag.  While I can of course build from git, I'd like to
> update the package in pkgsrc, which is generally based on release
> tarballs.

Currently there is only the tag and the abibility to download a tar.gz
from the server.

I had some trouble with the current GCC5 transition on debian that kept
me from creating a tarball. However, I solved them in the weekend so I
will hopefully come up shortly with one.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Version 1.2.1

2015-08-13 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Uwe,

Am Mi den 12. Aug 2015 um 22:18 schrieb Uwe Ohse:
 the attachment completes this, i hope.
 
 It updates:
 
 - ChangeLog
 - NEWS (well, sort of)
 - README (sort of)
 - configure.in (to update the version number)

Look at the branch stable/1.2, not at master branch.

 - src/Makefile.am (to include src/glua.h)

Yes, that needs to get fixed.

 make dist now creates geeqie-1.2.1.tar.gz, which compiles successfully.
 
 
 Please create the .tar.gz, sign it, and upload both signature and tar.gz
 to geeqie.org.

Ok, I can do that in the next days.

 I also want to suggest that someone updates the sourceforget site with
 a number of links to geeqie.org. The more, the better.

That would be helpful. Unfortunately I do not have a sourceforge account
anymore. I believe, only Vladimir can do that. But currently I cannot
reach him.

Gruß
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] gQview feature lost : properties

2015-08-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Di den 19. Mai 2015 um 15:51 schrieb me...@gmx.fr:
 In the old gQview there was a properties feature in the right click on an 
 image. I
 miss it in geeqie, when I have to check the size of a file after resizing it, 
 for example.
 
 Here is a picture to show what I mean: 
 http://citrotux.org/gqview-image-properties.png
 
 
 Would it be possible to add the properties context menu from gqview to geeqie 
 ?

I'll have a look.

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[Geeqie-devel] Version 1.2.1

2015-08-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

I released version 1.2.1 as a bugfix release.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Bad optimization in renderer-tiles.c

2015-08-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Di den 11. Aug 2015 um 22:07 schrieb Uwe Ohse:
 in src/renderer-tiles.c there is a really bad optimization, starting at about 
 line 1336 (current qeeqie.org git):
 
 1336 else if ((pr-zoom == 1.0 || pr-scale == 1.0) 
 1337  pr-aspect_ratio == 1.0 
 1338  !has_alpha 
 1339  orientation == EXIF_ORIENTATION_TOP_LEFT 
 1340  !(pr-func_post_process  !(pr-post_process_slow  
 fast)) 
 1341  !(rt-stereo_mode  PR_STEREO_ANAGLYPH))
 1342 {
 1343 /* special case: faster, simple, scale 1.0, base 
 orientation, no postprocessing */
 1344 cairo_t *cr;
 1345 cr = cairo_create(it-surface);
 1346 cairo_rectangle (cr, x, y, w, h);
 1347 gdk_cairo_set_source_pixbuf(cr, pr-pixbuf, -it-x - 
 GET_RIGHT_PIXBUF_OFFSET(rt), -it-y);
 1348 cairo_fill (cr);
 1349 cairo_destroy (cr);
 1350 }
 
 it looks good, but is dead slow, for each and every call to 
 gdk_cairo_set_source_pixbuf takes at least 15 milliseconds on my not
 really slow machine, which amounts to over 2 seconds if 144 tiles have to be 
 drawn (tested with many jpegs and a few large pngs).
 
 i propose to remove this optimization until someone fixes it. After removal 
 geeqie is fast, again.

Thanks for the find. I will put it into git.

Am Di den 11. Aug 2015 um 22:42 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
 http://sourceforge.net/p/geeqie/bugs/213/
 ( Created: 2014-12-05 )

Well, to be honest, I, personally, do not care about sourceforge anymore
since they started to serve maleware with open source stuff. I even do
not have an account anymore. And, frankly, the bugtracker there was
never something great.

But nevertheless, thanks.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Loosing gitorious in 11 weeks (Now only 8 days left)

2015-05-25 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Mo den 25. Mai 2015 um 20:01 schrieb Klaus Ethgen:
 Fact is that the URL should be http://www.geeqie.org/git/geeqie.git
 (note the /git/ part.)

That works too now. It uses the dump backend access that needs info/refs
populated.

That will be better when I configured to also push via http. However,
that will take some time to do proper testing.

Gruß
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Loosing gitorious in 11 weeks (Now only 8 days left)

2015-05-23 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Folks,

I reserved now geeqie.org and put the old web page there as well as the
repository.

The costs for the domain I will donate. But I will not sit on the domain
and/or where we host several stuff. For now, web and git are on my
server. But if we find a better solution, we can change that. But now
there is no need for hurry anymore.

Just one thing to go until gitrious is gone/readonly. (Currently it
already is readonly as I checked right know, what makes it much more
complicate. :-(

Please, all people, that have push rights currently, can you send me
your ssh public key (2048 bit or better) via private mail signed and
encrypted via PGP? I will integrate them then on the server.

New readonly URL for git is:
- - git://www.geeqie.org/geeqie.git
- - http://www.geeqie.org/geeqie.git

New read/write URL is:
- - g...@geeqie.org:geeqie (Maybe changing that to git.geeqie.org in
  future. Have to think about that)

As I had to open ssh access to the server for that, I might limit that
in future to only the people that have access. Also I have limited ssh
algorithms configured. If you have problems (after I add your key),
please tell me.

My ssh fingerprint is:
ed25519: 256 f3:d3:6d:73:6f:fe:78:d8:4e:e2:12:2a:07:aa:3e:72
rsa: 4096 0d:7b:9d:9a:99:2f:ad:65:14:17:22:7c:f7:3b:ed:b4

People that I have on my list for read/write access:
- - Laurent Monin z...@norz.org
- - Vladimir Nadvornik nadvor...@suse.cz
- - Michal Cihar mci...@suse.cz or ni...@debian.org
- - Tore Ericsson tore.erics...@telia.com

If I miss one, please tell me.

Note, currently I have no key of anybody.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Loosing gitorious in 11 weeks (Now only 12 days left)

2015-05-20 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Di den 19. Mai 2015 um 17:21 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
 I totally agree with this solution.  The only question is,
 
 Klaus - - Gitolite
 Klaus - - Gitweb
 Klaus - - DNS
 Klaus - - Web (Apache)
 
 will there still be a way to to a direct command-line git fetch/pull?  I
 do not want to go through some web interface, if possible.

Sure. The same for me. I do also do not like web interfaces. However,
with gitweb there is one that can be easily used for the more graphic
oriented people.

The only think that I have to look at is how to do the commiting rights.
Currently I setted up gitolite to allow ssh pushes only. And I had
locked ssh access to only few ips for security measurement. That I have
to open a bit. :-) I also want to try to allow push via https[4].
However, that is not done currently but would be a nice to have.

But even with http access only, git clone would be possible.

A example would be my Repository for gant[0] that you can clone either
via [1] or via [2]([3]).

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://www.ethgen.ch/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gant.git
[1] git://www.ethgen.ch/gant.git
[2] http://www.ethgen.ch/git/gant.git
[3] https://www.ethgen.ch/git/gant.git
[4] http://gitolite.com/gitolite/http.html
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Loosing gitorious in 11 weeks (Now only 12 days left)

2015-05-19 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

We have only 12 days left on gitorious but currently we did not find a
common sense what to use in future.

Although thanks to git nothing will be lost, we should have a direct
successor for the project.

So I have a suggestion: I would not like to have the stuff not on
community platform but with the current state I think of registering
geeqie.org as domain and point it to the server I own. I would not want
to block the domain but that would help us to move it to other places in
future much easier. I already have the most stuff in place so it is
pretty easy to configure that.

What I already have in use (for other projects):
- - Gitolite
- - Gitweb
- - DNS
- - Web (Apache)

That stuff can be easily shared. I even think of hosting mailing list
again. (I did in the past with mailman but would use gpg-remailer
better.)

With the fact that we have just 12 days left, please tell me what you
think; especially the main devs Laurent, Omari and Vladimir. That
suggestion would be nothing that is chisel to stone but it would be
something that allows us to keep control over the project. Especially
regarding geeqie.org we have to think about as long as it is free and
not acquired by some DNS gatherer.

Regards
   Klaus
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[Geeqie-devel] Loosing gitorious in 11 weeks

2015-03-07 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

As you might read[0], gitorious was bought by gitlab and announced to
get closed end of May.

Now we need to decide where to find a new home for the project.
Personally I do not like gitlab, however, that is my own attitude. I
think, that a company that is buying a other product just to kill it
would be no good home for us.

Nevertheless, gitlab is also open source released under MIT license.

I even thought about hosting Geeqie on my own server. That would give us
a way to control completely how we would have our project and it would
be even easy to have a project page and mailing list. But on the other
hand I do not want to make the project depending on me.

So what is your meaning about that.

Regards
   Klaus

[0] https://about.gitlab.com/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-gitorious/
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] changes to fullscreen mode made it worse for me

2014-11-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Di den 11. Nov 2014 um 15:50 schrieb parafin:
 this commit made some changes to how fullscreen mode is entered:
 04b70c636ab45a99518a2f8b238984d0aaef1606
 For me it's a change for the worse.

I did not check which commit does the problem but I have to admit that I
am also not happy with the current fullscreen stuff. Unfortunately, I am
not in that subsystem at the moment and it takes many time to understand
all in this part.

I will be happy to test reverting that commit or analyse it. Will see if
that is the one that makes it bad for me too.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Crashes with LCMS2 patch

2014-09-27 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Michael,

Am Di den 17. Jun 2014 um 12:24 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
 This results in unprintable strings that can crash g_markup, because
 these profile IDs are based on MD5. Even with LCMS1 unpatched,
 Geeqie could not print such a Screen profile name and warned about it
 in terminal output (probably causing a crash in special cases, too).

Thanks for your patch. I marked your mail for review but only came to it
back after finding that problem in the new released debian version. I
was never able to see the crash so I never got into checking it.

Now the fix is included in geeqie and will be in the next release for
debian too.

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Support questions off topic here?

2014-09-21 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Colin,

Am So den 21. Sep 2014 um  0:42 schrieb Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh:
 Are support questions off topic here?  I'm easy. I'll keep quiet after this
 --  if they are.

Surly yes. If you have questions, just come up with them. You just
should not expect that every question will be answered in a way you
like. But we try our very best.

 If I highlight a jpeg file in geeqie and then click edit=external
 editors= gimp
 then gimp opens up showing the currently highlighted file.
 
 However, if I highlght a raw x-nikon-nef file (the thumbnails show up fine)
 and then try to start gimp I get an error dialog.
 can't find matching file type
 
 If I copy _PIC1234.NEF to test.tif , however, then gimp opens is just fine.
 
 mint linux uname -a  Linux dungeon 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct
 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
 edit=perferences=preferences=Files has a *.nef line
 
 edit=perferences=external editor=Gimp has a MimeType line, to which I
 added ;image/x-nikon-nef, but still no luck.
 
 Any ideas about how to get geeqie to open gimp, with an incoming filename
 parameter that is a nikon raw file *.NEF?

I think that is more a gimp question. I do not see how we can help here.

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] geeqie 1.2 tarball?

2014-09-08 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Mo den  8. Sep 2014 um 10:05 schrieb Paul Wise:
 I wanted to upload geeqie to Debian so it is in jessie but I can't find
 the tarball for version 1.2, do you know where it is?

There is no.

We still have some parts of the project on sourceforge. But considering
the facts that sourceforge went to the dark force I refuse to have a
account there anymore so I cannot and won't upload any tarball.

I Cced that question to the devel list as I would like to move to
another hoster but I don't want to do this decision alone. There are
other ones that are more involved in the project.

However, for debian, I just merged the upstream git to the top of debian
git. The only think that is missing is to recreate the auto* files that
usually gets autocreated by default in a tarball. It is just to find the
right hook in dh mechanism. :-)

Regards
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] geeqie 1.2 tarball?

2014-09-08 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Paul,

Am Mo den  8. Sep 2014 um 21:28 schrieb Paul Wise:
  Maybe.. Have to have a look into it.
 
 It basically allows you to download tarballs of git branches, tags and
 commits so the resulting tarballs won't have autotools stuff in them.

Yes, that is the same that you can archive by git archive I think. See
no sense to import them into debian git when you can merge them
directly...

  Well, I had not the major problem with their proprietary codebase. In
  the past days the most important problem was the archaic support for
  modern repositories like git.
 
 That has been resolved for many years now, they have git and hg.

I know. That was why I said past days.

  The most problem I myself have is that they inject proprietary code in
  free projects for advertisement or force users to use a advertisement
  downloader to get the files. The time when they start doing that I
  canceled my account I had with them.
 
 Yeah that was a pretty big mistake. IIRC they stopped doing that and I
 thought it was just a proposal rather than something in production.

No, they did that and actively do that in current days.

And even if they stop right now I never can trust them anymore.

  That's true. I would have the resources to provide that on my private
  server platform but I do not want to make geeqie depending on me
  personally. It is a free project and it should stay being one.
 
 Perhaps this WikiPedia page can help make a choice:
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_hosting_facilities

Nice reference, thanks. Even there: Countries blocked not empty for
sourceforge. That is a nogo.

Regards
   Klaus

Ps. For the debian related stuff I will write outside of the list.
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Viewing Encrypted Files

2014-08-07 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Do den  7. Aug 2014 um 16:06 schrieb Frank Peters:
 Is it possible to add some sort of module or other functionality,
 which would be customizable by the user, and which would allow the
 viewing of encrypted or similar files?
[...]
 Such a user-customizable filter could also be used for non-standard
 or experimental image compression.

Such stuff is one idea why I started with lua integration. At the moment
it is not possible as it is not implemented in the part of file opening
but that should be possible. (At the moment, lua is only integrated in
overlay processing.)

Gruß
   Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Copy path problem

2014-07-15 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Mo den 14. Jul 2014 um 22:38 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
 a. I am conditioned to expect middle-click to behave erractically,

Sorry, can you explain »erractically«? I cannot translate that to my
language.

 b. I am the opposite of handy, so pointing devices in general are the
 stuff of my nightmares;

I do not like them also. I like to work with the keyboard. However, for
some situaltions I like my mouse (or more specific, my Knubbel inside
my Thinkpad keyboard that replaces the mouse. And the buttons are
ecactly wher you need them to paste.

 c. (related) I use a touchpad instead of a mouse, and middle-clicking is
 particularly clunky on touchpads, even when they have a real middle
 button as mine does (most don't).

I can understand that. I find touchpads the most nightmare ever. And if
I buy a laptop I try to find one without touchpad at all, what is really
hard.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Copy path problem

2014-07-14 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Mo den 14. Jul 2014 um  3:13 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
 Klaus Ethgen Klaus+geekie@... writes:
 
 Ian You're right that simply changing the current code from
 Ian GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY to GDK_SELECTION_CLIPBOARD would break your
 Ian usage while fixing mine.  It would still be the right thing to do
 Ian IMO because of the convention.  But we can keep the cake and eat it
 Ian if we add new hooks on selection change events, calling back the
 Ian current code with GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY.  How's that?
 
 Klaus You mean just adding also to put the stuff to the other
 Klaus clipboard? Maybe also to the third one too?
 Klaus (GDK_SELECTION_SECONDARY, I think)
 
 Not at the same places/times.  I mean setting GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY _as
 soon as the thing is selected_.  That means setting a new callback in
 each window where it makes sense on an event like selchange or
 something (not sure how Gtk spells it).  So a file name would be copied
 as soon as you click on one in the file list, for example.
 
 This is the right thing to do according to my reading of the doc, at least.

Well, I don't like that way to have that automatically in buffer when
selecting.

First that produces a big overhead to selecting process but second and
more sever, it will break many workflows with using text selections in
shell. It is not expected for a image viewer to copy any to that buffer
without being asked specific.

Even worse, As I know, some of that buffers can hold any content; even
full images. What should be in GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY when you select
multiple images? The paths to that images? The full image? Or the
thumbnail? That is not obvious to solve.

For the normal X cutpast buffer used by middle mouse it makes most
sense to populate it via explicit menu like it is now. For the other
buffers that are used by GUI applications it would make more sense to
explicitly say what to copy. Maybe you want to insert a image from
geeqie inside gimp. Maybe you want to have the path of the file in a
spread sheet, ...

By the way, Drag and drop works with Geeqie.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Copy path problem

2014-07-09 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Mi den  9. Jul 2014 um  7:08 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
 Hi, I hit upon what seems to be at least an infelicity, and perhaps an
 outright bug.  The Copy Path popup menu item calls back this code:
 
   clipboard = gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY);
   gtk_clipboard_set_text(clipboard, g_shell_quote(fd-path), -1);
 
 But, according to the GTK documentation:
 
   The currently-selected object or text should be provided on the
   clipboard identified by GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY. Cut/copy/paste menu
   items conceptually copy the contents of the GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY
   clipboard to the default clipboard, i.e. they copy the selection to
   what the user sees as the clipboard.

So?

 So, the above code should really use GDK_SELECTION_CLIPBOARD.

In your pasted text it is always called about GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY. and
never about GDK_SELECTION_CLIPBOARD. But it might be possible that I
miss something there as my English might be not the best. For my
understanding GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY is the right one.

 This has an unfortunate practical consequence: after copying the path
 this way, I am unable to paste it anywhere in the geeqie UI itself,
 without a roundtrip through some other program like Emacs that
 understands both kinds of selections. (Don't ask why, but creating a
 subdirectory named according to the selected file is part of my
 workflow in some cases).

The problem is that with the current solution, the most used way to copy
around text under unix works, using the middle mouse button. Changing
that might (I did not test it but that might be worth to test) end up in
being unable to paste. Not all consoles knows Strg-V (what comes from
the windows world, I think).

I personally like to be able to copy the path to selection clipboard and
paste it in the terminal where I mostly work. That does not work if I
use Strg-C in some GUIs but it works with Geeqie.

 Can this be fixed?

Well, it can, if it really fixes some and don't break others. It is even
open source. Just make an patch for suggestion. It might get accepted
(or not. :-).

Maybe even copy it to more than one buffer might be ok. (Keep in mind
that in unix there are three different buffers, most of them evolved in
the newer time and not supported by all software. They make fully sens
to copy around other stuff than just simple text.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Copy path problem

2014-07-09 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

Am Mi den  9. Jul 2014 um 17:08 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
 I just snipped too much from the quote.  The sentence preceding this one is:

I thought such. ;-)

 Well, all the Gtk conventions come from the Windows world :-)  And yes,
 sometimes that is a problem.  But I still use lots of Gtk programs.

Not all. But don't mix Gtk and Gnome. However, would be long discussion.

 Klaus I personally like to be able to copy the path to selection
 Klaus clipboard and paste it in the terminal where I mostly work. That
 Klaus does not work if I use Strg-C in some GUIs but it works with
 Klaus Geeqie.
 
 You're right that simply changing the current code from
 GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY to GDK_SELECTION_CLIPBOARD would break your usage
 while fixing mine.  It would still be the right thing to do IMO because
 of the convention.  But we can keep the cake and eat it if we add new
 hooks on selection change events, calling back the current code with
 GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY.  How's that?

You mean just adding also to put the stuff to the other clipboard? Maybe
also to the third one too? (GDK_SELECTION_SECONDARY, I think)

 Klaus Well, it can, if it really fixes some and don't break others. It
 Klaus is even open source. Just make an patch for suggestion.
 
 I can make a patch.  It probably won't be trivially short; where do you
 want it posted?o

Here would be great. Or fork the repo on gitorious and create a merge
request.

Regards
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] New version

2014-06-27 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Omari,

Am Fr den 27. Jun 2014 um  8:22 schrieb Omari Stephens:
 https://gitorious.org/geeqie/merge_requests ?

I knew them. And I did already merged some of them. Only the ones that
the user should have rights to merge by themself I did not.

While Laurent (zas) has the rights to merge himself, I checked and you
have not. (I thought you have...) I will have a look into it and merge
it.

What do the other think about giving Omari direct commit rights? :-)

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[Geeqie-devel] File move without metadata

2014-06-26 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi,

I'd like to hold my metadatas in .metadata dir inside the image
directory. That worked well long time ago with gqview. No I recogniced
that I lost many metadatas as it is not moved anymore.

Anybody an idea when it did fall out of geeqie? Maybe with this caching
stuff? I don't want to start to bisect it..

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