[gentoo-user] Re: any news on chromium + Glibc?

2021-06-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-06-07, Alan Grimes wrote: > Chromium is still broken here, all tabs blank after MORE THAN A MONTH... I wasn't aware there was a problem: there hasen't been any brokenness for me[1] (current running 91.0.4472.77 ). What's the problem? [1] Except for a minor problem when dragging a tab

[gentoo-user] Curious about order that emerge -u builds/installs

2021-06-02 Thread Grant Edwards
I've noticed something surprising (to me) about the order that 'emerge -auvND world' decides to install/upgrade/reinstall packages. The situation is as follows: * A large number of packages need to be build/installed/reinstalled * Hit control-C during the build of package X * Restart 'emerge

[gentoo-user] Re: is "scp" reliable?

2021-06-01 Thread Grant Edwards
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[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] is "scp" reliable?

2021-05-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-05-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Right On Cal, running memtest86+ gave me nothing but errors. I'm > surprised it compiled all the packages recently without any errors. It might not have. > Putting two good stick in it and md5sum worked without a problem. > Was able to import OVA

[gentoo-user] Re: Qustions re Dell M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drives under Gentoo

2021-05-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-05-27, Walter Dnes wrote: > All current XPS models seem to have 256G or 512G M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid > State drives in the base configuration. Questions... > > * do NVMe drives function well under Gentoo (driver issues, etc)? Yes. The kernel has supported NVMe drives for ages (since kernel

[gentoo-user] Re: Qustions re Dell M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drives under Gentoo

2021-05-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-05-27, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:35:33PM +0200, Alarig Le Lay wrote > >> PS: I agree on the linux bloatiness, I have 4G of RAM on my personal >> laptop and it begins to run out sometime??? > > Showing my age... I started using linux on a spare machine with > 16

[gentoo-user] Re: File transfer via USB?

2021-04-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-04-25, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 4/25/21 12:14 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Nope. Many years ago I used UUCP a number of times for "production" >> projects involving data gathering from remote systems via dial-up. > >:-) > >> 25+ years ago, I wrot

[gentoo-user] Re: File transfer via USB?

2021-04-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-04-25, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Grant: >> On 4/23/21 7:45 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> > Grant: >> >> I think you are conflating me for the OP. Easy to do with the same >> first name. ;-) > > Well, your sig is at a cursory look wery alike, but now I see you > have some extra dots

[gentoo-user] Re: File transfer via USB?

2021-04-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-04-25, Grant Taylor wrote: >> It is usually simple to setup and use a serial null-modem cable and >> run kermit or somthing on the MS-Win side and add a getty (I've used >> mgetty) handling the serial port on the linux side. > > Is it wrong that the first thing that came to mind when

[gentoo-user] Re: File transfer via USB?

2021-04-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-04-22, Kusoneko wrote: >>That won't use IP? > > Honestly, I don't get the problem you're stating with using IP. There's no problem. It's just not allowed. > If you connect 2 machines with Ethernet, assign them both a static > IP address on the same subnet, with no gateway or anything,

[gentoo-user] Re: File transfer via USB?

2021-04-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-04-22, tastytea wrote: > On 2021-04-22 14:27-0000 Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> I'm trying to figure out a convenient way to transfer files between a >> Linux machine (running Gentoo) and a Windows 10 machine (which has no >> internet access). IP conn

[gentoo-user] File transfer via USB?

2021-04-22 Thread Grant Edwards
I'm trying to figure out a convenient way to transfer files between a Linux machine (running Gentoo) and a Windows 10 machine (which has no internet access). IP connection between the machines is not allowed. Yes, I can shuffle a USB flash drive back and forth, but that's really annoying. Can I

[gentoo-user] Re: Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-04-06, antlists wrote: > On 06/04/2021 19:30, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: >> On Tue, 2021-04-06 at 19:19 +0100, antlists wrote: >>> Imap is quite happy with folders. Google let you create folders, IMAP >>> lets you access them. No problem. >> Disclaimer: I haven't used Gmail in a few

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there a way to misconfigure USB ports in the kernel?

2021-03-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-31, Jack wrote: > On 2021.03.31 16:28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Many years ago, there was an X11 man page and gnu info viewer that I >> used to use, but I can't remember the name of it. This was probably >> 20+ years ago (pre GTK and Qt), so the chance

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there a way to misconfigure USB ports in the kernel?

2021-03-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-31, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:09:03 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I wish I could view man pages like I used to in Konqueror.  It displays >> like a webpage and is much easier to search through. > > I miss that too. I use mankier.com these days, which gives similar >

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo + wifi

2021-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-22, antlists wrote: > On 22/03/2021 13:17, Grant Edwards wrote: >> If you don't want to spend quite that much money, I'm a fan of >> Lenonovo Moto "G" series phones. You get a lot of phone for your money >> and very little "bloat". A few of t

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo + wifi

2021-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-22, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 22 March 2021 01:25:35 GMT Philip Webb wrote: > >> Any advice wb very welcome ; please remember I know nothing re cell >> phones, tho' of course I'm quite willing to buy one (brand suggestions ? ). > > Google Pixel, for the nearest thing to the

[gentoo-user] Re: problem mounting windows share on samba

2021-03-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-18, John Covici wrote: > Hi. I have a strange problem mounting a windows share on my gentoo > box. I have two windows disks that I can share c and d drive. If I > write > mount.smb3 //ccs2/c the c drive is mounted. If I say mount.smb3 > //ccs2/d the system does not complain, but

[gentoo-user] Re: Odd Chrome behavior when dragging tab to create new window

2021-03-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-12, Grant Edwards wrote: > When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window > (this is something I do a lot, every day), it works normally until I > release the mouse button. Then, instead of staying where it's put the > new window will follow the mouse c

[gentoo-user] Re: Odd Chrome behavior when dragging tab to create new window

2021-03-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-12, Spackman, Chris wrote: > On 2021/03/12 at 02:57pm, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window >> > [...] instead of staying where it's put the new window will follow >> > the mouse cursor aroun

[gentoo-user] Re: Odd Chrome behavior when dragging tab to create new window

2021-03-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-12, Grant Edwards wrote: > When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window > [...] instead of staying where it's put the > new window will follow the mouse cursor around the desktop anytime > Chrom(e|ium) has focus. [...] > If I press ctr

[gentoo-user] Odd Chrome behavior when dragging tab to create new window

2021-03-12 Thread Grant Edwards
Yesterday afternoon, both Chrome and Chromium started behaving oddly. When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window (this is something I do a lot, every day), it works normally until I release the mouse button. Then, instead of staying where it's put the new window will

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-08, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: >> 10 have git switch to the next day >> 20 emerge -aDUN @world >> 30 assess / deal with masked packages >> 40 goto 10 >> >> It /looks/ like things are working. > > *TL;DR* > > DenverCoder9: DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine why Python 2.7 is still installed?

2021-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-27, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 13:08:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On one of my Gentoo machines Python 2.7 has not been removed by >> deplcean as it has on others, and I've been unable to determine >> why. It's not in the world fi

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine why Python 2.7 is still installed?

2021-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-27, hitachi303 wrote: > Am 27.02.2021 um 14:08 schrieb Grant Edwards: > >> How do you determine why portage thinks a certain slot of a package >> is required? None of the documentation I an find on portage discusses >> finding packages dependent on particular s

[gentoo-user] Determine why Python 2.7 is still installed?

2021-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On one of my Gentoo machines Python 2.7 has not been removed by deplcean as it has on others, and I've been unable to determine why. It's not in the world file, and 'equery d python' doesn't show anything depending on 2.7. I have no python targets specified in make.conf nor in any package use flag

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-25, hitachi303 wrote: > I found it to be helpful to de-install as many programs as possible > before starting the update and the first emerge --sync. This reduces the > amount of conflicts by a considerable amount. Yes, Definitely. If you can, uninstall anything "big" that you can

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-25, Grant Taylor wrote: > Besides, wouldn't each of the incremental processes over the last year > have been possible? ;-) Yes -- and fairly easy. Somehow, the amount of update effort required doesn't just add up over time, it multiplies.

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-25, Grant Taylor wrote: > I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March > 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. > > What is the best way forward? If it were me, I'd probably back up /etc and /home and just reinstall. -- other Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving from Lastpass to Bitwarden

2021-02-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-17, Dale wrote: > Anyone have info on switching from Lastpass to Bitwarden? Thoughts? I just did it this afternoon. The whole process took about three minutes: 1. Sign up for Bitwarden account 2. Export .csv from Lastpass 3. Import .csb to Bitwarden 4. Install Chrome plugin.

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving from Lastpass to Bitwarden

2021-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-18, Neil Bothwick wrote: > That's what I was using, but I now run my own BitWarden server, so I get > the convenience and the security. Ah-ha! And _that's_ what I could use an $11 VPS for!

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving from Lastpass to Bitwarden

2021-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-17, Dale wrote: > Lastpass is forcing people to use only one device type or pay a fee. > [...] > Anyone have info on switching from Lastpass to Bitwarden? Thoughts? After doing a bit of reading, I've decided that I'm switching from Lastpass to Bitwarden. I've been happy with Lastpass

[gentoo-user] Re: Chromium Aw, Snap!

2021-02-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-12, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 15:10:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> What was the error message? > > You'd know if you had seen it. Chromium displays "Aw, snap!" in the > browser window when it barfs on a page. Ah. The most

[gentoo-user] Re: Chromium Aw, Snap!

2021-02-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-12, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 13:43:31 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > since a few days Chromium is broken here. Even deleting >> > ~/.config/chromium I get this error message immediately after >> > Chromium comes up.

[gentoo-user] Re: Chromium Aw, Snap!

2021-02-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-12, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > since a few days Chromium is broken here. Even deleting > ~/.config/chromium I get this error message immediately after Chromium > comes up. I've never seen that error message. > I have tried the version 88.0.4324.150 , 89.0.4389.40 and > 90.0.4412.3

[gentoo-user] Re: Sharing printers via Cups

2021-02-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-10, Dan Egli wrote: > On 2/10/2021 4:30 AM, Michael wrote: >> On Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:23:41 GMT you wrote: >>> On 2/9/2021 3:20 AM, Michael wrote: > Actually tried that. Got LPD installed, sent a test page. Test page > appeared in the Windows Queue, then disappeared

[gentoo-user] Re: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)

2021-02-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-10, antlists wrote: > On 09/02/2021 04:44, cal wrote: >>> but it doesn't, when I log-in the XFCE4 is not starting automatically, >>> I have to type manually: startxfce4 >> >> I see you have already solved your problem.  But it bears mentioning: >> .xinitrc is executed by runing

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-05, Michael wrote: > On Friday, 5 February 2021 03:34:12 GMT Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: > >> I am using plex-media-server from this overlay without systemd. It is >> not required. Indeed it's not. I added the overlay with 'eselect reository', did a sync+upate, and it installed and

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-05, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-02-05, Michael Jones wrote: > >> Use the plex overlay. >> >> It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was. > > This one? > > https://github.com/comio/plex-overlay/ > > The ple

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-05, Michael Jones wrote: > Use the plex overlay. > > It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was. This one? https://github.com/comio/plex-overlay/ The plex-server ebuild appears to require systemd, but it isn't listed as a dependency. Am I missing something?

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-04, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:04:14 -0300, Raphael MD wrote: > >> Said that, what could be the effort to turn my Gentoo in a NAS service, >> setting up SAMBA, Plex, quotas and ZFS? > > I see Plex as the main problem, as it is no longer in portage. > One way round

[gentoo-user] Re: State of emergency is now in effect.

2021-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-30, Alexey Mishustin wrote: > сб, 30 янв. 2021 г. в 17:59, Dr Rainer Woitok : > >> Am I interpreting you correctly that such a postsync hook is never nec- >> essary, that is, that the "portage" package itself is always a built-in >> build dependency for every other package? > > "The

[gentoo-user] Re: stupifying slowness.

2021-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-29, Alan Grimes wrote: > I'm trying to update my system after 71 days of uptime because I wanna > start moving my stuff into a newer case (current case is 11 years old...) Mine is 19 years old. I hope the aluminum hasn't gone bad. My keyboard is 35 years old... ;) -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: mounting USB without root password

2021-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-29, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I uncommented in: sudoers (it works) > %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL > %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL Wow. That seems extremely dangerous to me... -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-29, Grant Taylor wrote: > iproute2 has supplanted the venerable net-tools (or whatever it's > called); ifconfig, route, netstat, etc. My brain knows that. My fingers only partially so. > I sort of put pressure on my self to start using them 20 years ago, > and largely failed. It

[gentoo-user] Re: Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-29, Grant Taylor wrote: > My understanding -- which may be wrong, and please correct me if you > think it is -- is that this special route (#2) is how the kernel sends > the entire 127/8 network to the lo adapter, even if the IP addresses > aren't bound to the adapter. I think

[gentoo-user] Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-28 Thread Grant Edwards
I've just recently realized something about the "lo" interface. You can bind a socket to any 127.0.0.N address, even though only 127.0.0.1/8 is configured in /etc/config/net, and "ip addr" only shows 127.0.0.1/8 for that interface. In the past, when I wanted to use other 127.0.0.N address, I

[gentoo-user] Re: Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-14, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 1/13/21 4:06 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I really should try to figure out a control-character that's not used >> by emacs or the tty driver > > I think there are very few, if any, keys used by the TTY driver. I > suspect you

[gentoo-user] Re: Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-13, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 22:15:25 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> FWOW, if you really want backscrolling on the console, you can get >> that with screen, but doing so would drive me nuts, since I'd have to >> break all my fingers t

[gentoo-user] Re: Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-13, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I think bringing up a new Gentoo system absolutely requires working in > the console, certainly up to the point where X11 and a Window Manager > have been installed and debugged. I usually install Gentoo via ssh. The article I read about the removal of

[gentoo-user] Re: python3 question

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-13, n952162 wrote: > # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- [ this has to be in line1 or line2!!! ] If you have that line in your source code, make sure your editor is saving the file in UTF-8 encoding. > Oh, I think that gave me a solution! > > # -*- coding: latin1 -*- [ this has to be in line1

[gentoo-user] Re: python3 question

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-13, n952162 wrote: > Hello. In python3, how do you do this? Please explain what "this" is trying to accomplish, and we can tell you how to do it in Python3. Are you trying to convert from Unicode to Latin1 and back to Unicode? Python 3.8.6 (default, Jan 2 2021, 20:25:58) [GCC

[gentoo-user] Re: ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libpthread.so

2021-01-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-08, Grant Edwards wrote: > I've noticed that when linking an applicatoin I now get warnings like this: > > /usr/lib/gcc/[...]/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible > /usr/lib/libpthread.so when searching for -lpthread > /usr/lib/gcc/[...]/x86_64-pc-l

[gentoo-user] ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libpthread.so

2021-01-08 Thread Grant Edwards
I've noticed that when linking an applicatoin I now get warnings like this: /usr/lib/gcc/[...]/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libpthread.so when searching for -lpthread /usr/lib/gcc/[...]/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libpthread.a when

[gentoo-user] Re: ncurses; I think I wrecked my fresh install

2020-12-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-29, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 05:11:36PM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote >> Hi Walter, >> >> > "-pch -roaming -sendmail -spell -tcpd -udev -udisks -unicode -upower >> > -xinerama" >> >> mostly out of curiosity, why do you want to disable unicode support >> here?

[gentoo-user] Re: ncurses; I think I wrecked my fresh install

2020-12-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-29, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Hi Walter, > >> "-pch -roaming -sendmail -spell -tcpd -udev -udisks -unicode -upower >> -xinerama" > > mostly out of curiosity, why do you want to disable unicode support here? > > This feels odd to me since utf8 has effectively become the standard

[gentoo-user] Re: UEFI install noob questions

2020-12-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-27, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:53:27AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > >> I understand why someone used to GRUB would want to continue with >> it on a UEFI system, but you have no experience of it so why are >> you picking the boot manager that is hardest to

[gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-23, Walter Dnes wrote: > Situation; I have a Dell XPS8940 with that abomination known as > UEFI, and no "legacy boot". UEFI claims there are no bootable > partitions on the hard drive (/dev/sda). Yet it will automatically > boot up properly from a USB key (/dev/sdb) with Gentoo

[gentoo-user] Re: WiFi on old Thinkpad

2020-12-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-21, Peter Humphrey wrote: > What does the team think is the best way to get WiFi going? Is > wpa-supplicant a good idea? I've never used anything else. > That's what the handbook recommends, but I think I remember > something like wicd being better. Better how? -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: XWindow appearing in a non-graphical tty. A bug or feature?

2020-12-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-19, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 18/12/2020 18:04, gevisz wrote: >> During the last 22 years, I got used to the setting >> when the XWindow system appeared on one of >> the "graphical" virtual terminals, mostly on tty6 or tty7. >> >> However, after installing a new Gentoo system with

[gentoo-user] Re: XWindow appearing in a non-graphical tty. A bug or feature?

2020-12-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-18, gevisz wrote: > During the last 22 years, I got used to the setting > when the XWindow system appeared on one of > the "graphical" virtual terminals, mostly on tty6 or tty7. > > However, after installing a new Gentoo system with > gentoo-kernel, I found out that the XWindow system

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors

2020-12-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-18, Walter Dnes wrote: > Thanks for everybody's comments. I didn't feel like waiting till the > 6th or 10th of Januaty for Amazon shipping. I've got 2 HDMI cables > locally, but no HDMI-to-VGA dongle. Do HDMI->DVI-D if you have a choice. It purely a connector shape difference.

[gentoo-user] Re: hardware - memory problem

2020-12-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-16, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Hm..., did I use wrong stage? >> >> stage3-i686-20201116T214503Z.tar.xz >> >> AMD FX(tm)-8150 Eight-Core Processor > > Yes, that is the wrong stage3. It's for 32-bit processors. You want a > 64-bit amd64 one. You'

[gentoo-user] Re: hardware - memory problem

2020-12-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-16, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 12/16/2020 03:51 PM, antlists wrote: >> Or is this a 32-bit system WITHOUT extended memory support? >> >> I don't properly understand it, but with a 32-bit system the kernel uses >> 1GB of memory and user-space uses the other 3GB. Extended memory

[gentoo-user] Re: update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-14, antlists wrote: > What I would do is find out whatever -march fits the oldest chip, and > then set that for all the machines. Especially if, as you say, they're > all AMD the chances are the newer chips will be a superset of the old, FWIW, that's not always the case.

[gentoo-user] Re: Upgrade an old system

2020-12-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I'm having similar problem as "n952162" upgrading an old (last updated > 1.8-year ago) If I were youe, I'd just reinstall after 1.8 years. Updating is going to take way, way more work. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors

2020-12-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-14, Walter Dnes wrote: > But I want to attach the XPS 8940 to the older monitor, which only has > VGA and DVI-D. I use the older monitor for setup/install and to keep > the "hot backup" machine up-to-date. What are my options? For the main > machine I'll buy an HDMI cable. Are

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 12/13/2020 09:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> >>> I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 >>> >>> But now when i try

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 > > But now when i try to install grub: > > grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 > Installing for i386-pc platform. > grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding. >

[gentoo-user] Re: update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-13, n952162 wrote: > On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. > > Okay, is the solution then to re-install? That's _a_ solution, and might be less work. But, if you're not going to update more regularly, you're

[gentoo-user] Re: update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-13, Dale wrote: > I been using Gentoo for a good long while and most of the time, I still > can't understand what it spits out onto my screen. I know what you mean. I've been running Gentoo on mutliple machines for 20 years now, and I'm still baffled by much of what "emerge" spews.

[gentoo-user] Re: preventing PC sutdown by power button when running

2020-12-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-11, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-12-11, Jack wrote: >> On 12/10/20 11:20 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> How to prevent PC from shutdown when running when power button is pressed? >>> Is it a function in a BIOS or OS? > >> You could always u

[gentoo-user] Re: preventing PC sutdown by power button when running

2020-12-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-11, Jack wrote: > On 12/10/20 11:20 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> How to prevent PC from shutdown when running when power button is pressed? >> Is it a function in a BIOS or OS? > You could always unplug the wire from the power button to the motherboard. That seems like the

[gentoo-user] Re: Scanning double sided documents and printing them the same.

2020-12-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-10, Michael wrote: > >> There's no need for the two-step process: >> >> $ convert scan1.png scan2.png scanned.pdf > > There was some vulnerability in ghostscript[1] which disabled the above > conversion - but I can't find the BGO number. I thought it had been patched > since then,

[gentoo-user] Re: new install for a new mainboard?

2020-12-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-10, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, December 10, 2020 4:23:09 PM CET n952162 wrote: >> I need a new mainboard. What will happen if I boot my existing system >> on it? >> >> If it would come up, what would need to be (re)emerged, as a minimum? >> >> TIA > > Unless you really

[gentoo-user] Re: new install for a new mainboard?

2020-12-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-10, n952162 wrote: > I need a new mainboard.  What will happen if I boot my existing system > on it? It depends on how "alike" your new and old mainboard are. Everything might work 100%, or it might crash in the very early stages of the kernel starting, or anything in-between. > If

[gentoo-user] Re: Scanning double sided documents and printing them the same.

2020-12-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-10, Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 10 December 2020 08:27:33 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: [...] >> I use gscan2pdf, although it sans to many more file formats. Scan to 2 >> page PDF and your printer can print in duplex. >> >> Gscan2pdf has lots of nice features, I used to use it with an

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-07, Jack wrote: > I agree with this one. I often find emerge fails, telling me the > reason, and then once I've fixed that (usually adding a different > package or changing some use flags) it fails in exactly the same way > for a different package. Oh yes, on a bad day you can

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-06, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-12-06, Arve Barsnes wrote: > >> If you have not completed the world update yet, all those are probably >> still installed as 3.7 packages. You could try updating all those to >> 3.8 only first, if you have not done the world

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-06, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 21:25, Grant Edwards wrote: >> > emerge -cpv python:3.7 will show you what is keeping 3.7 >> >> Something's wrong. >> >> That lists 43 packages. I checked the first few, and none of them req

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-06, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 20:01:27 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I updated one of my systems a day or two ago, and Python 3.7 went away >> as expected. Today, I'm updating another system and it is rebuilding >> tons of stuff to t

[gentoo-user] Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-06 Thread Grant Edwards
I updated one of my systems a day or two ago, and Python 3.7 went away as expected. Today, I'm updating another system and it is rebuilding tons of stuff to target python 3.8 instead of 3.7, but it's keeping 3.7 and even wants to install a _new_ package -- and build it for Python 3.7: [...]

[gentoo-user] Re: What replaced python-updater?

2020-12-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-04, tastytea wrote: > On 2020-12-04 17:39-0000 Grant Edwards > wrote: >> [...] >> >> I used to use 'python-updater' to take care of that, but it's >> gone. What are we supposed to use in its place? >> >> Are we just supposed to manu

[gentoo-user] What replaced python-updater?

2020-12-04 Thread Grant Edwards
Yesterday when I did my usual update/clean, Python 3.7 was removed and a bunch of stuff was re-installed for Python 3.8. However, there are still things (e.g. markdown) that I've had to manually re-emerge to get them rebuilt for 3.8. I used to use 'python-updater' to take care of that, but it's

[gentoo-user] Re: sendmail configuration

2020-11-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-26, antlists wrote: >[...] > So a fully-functional sendmail installation is the most powerful, > flexible mta there is out there. The snag is, most people only use 10% > of that power, but nobody can agree on which 10% is the most important. After trying to think of reasons to use

[gentoo-user] Re: sendmail configuration

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-26, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Thank you for input. Maybe that is why it is so hard to find good > explanation/howto how to configure it. The config file looks very > simple, that is I decided to try it. Ah, that's another devine mystery. I believe that the small size of a

[gentoo-user] Re: sendmail configuration

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-26, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I've always used postifx but I want to try sendmail this time. Appropos of nothing, might we ask why? I've heard there are things that you can do with sendmail that you can't do with postfix or exim or qmail, but the descriptions of what sorts of

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:43:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > Rename one of the directories and see if you can still boot :) >> >> That may not be a valid test. If grub is using a blocklist to locate >> second

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:30:46 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> >> If I can get rid of the plain grub, that would free up some space. >> >> The grub2 directory isn't as big but still wouldn't hurt. >> > GRUB2 uses /boot/grub here, I suspect /boot/grub2 might be the

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:04:26 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive >> > definition from which to load the boot sector. >> >> I thought that's what

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:20:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > "GRUB 2 can read files directly from LVM and RAID devices." >> >> That was certainly the behavior described [...] >> >> But that

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >> >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB >> >>> doesn't read from LVM volumes. >> >> >> >> Then what does grub's "lvm" module do, and how does it read the >> >> distro's

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 19:04:20 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as >> chainloading a "real" partition? > > I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu

[gentoo-user] Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, antlists wrote: > >> Cool, I'll have to read up on using volumes for that. How far back in >> time can you go before you get to distros that would have problems? > > How old is LVM? It's been around for ages, I think. We regularly run into customers running distros that came out

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:38:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > But actual partitions? >> >> Yes. Each with a separate Linux distro installed. >> >> Perhaps you can do that with a volume manager instead of par

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Jack wrote: > I only have two or three such distros I use for testing, but I have > each in a VirtualBox machine. For me, spinning up a VM is easier > than a real reboot. I don't trust VMs when testing drivers for PCI cards or applicatoins that use raw Ethernet. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:01:35 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? Doesn't bear thinking >> > about. >> >> Yes. I have one with 12 and often wish it had more. >>

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:20:52 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions specified with UUIDs? >> Doesn't bear thinking about. > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? Doesn't bear thinking > about. Yes. I have one

[gentoo-user] Re: python2 really really really gone? Scripts all broken?

2020-11-15 Thread Grant Edwards
seems to me that writing sed scripts would be a huge waste of time -- and I'm somebody who _does_ write (short) sed scripts occasionally. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I was making donuts at and now

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo handbook

2020-11-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-14, Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Sat, 14 Nov 2020, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:30:51 >> From: Grant Edwards >> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gento

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