Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message
On 04/10/2013 22:19, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 18:09, Dale wrote: Sometime last night while I was sleeping, my network sort of hiccuped. If I went to a Konsole, I could ping google so it appears the network was working on the lower level but not one browser that was left open would work. It also didn't/couldn't download new emails. When I restarted the browser, it worked. This is the case for both Seaminkey and Firefox. If it was just one, I'd think browser issue but not two of them at the same time. This is a example of what is in my messages file: Sep 29 03:10:15 localhost kernel: [382175.585718] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 88034092b0c0 path 1 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Sep 29 03:10:17 localhost kernel: [382177.582033] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 8803f06a9d40 path 1 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Sep 29 03:10:19 localhost kernel: [382179.586285] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 8803f06a9680 path 1 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Sep 29 03:10:21 localhost kernel: [382181.582602] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 8803f06a9680 path 1 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Sep 29 03:10:23 localhost kernel: [382183.586879] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 8803f06a9680 path 1 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 What I read from your description is that Seamonkey and Firefox hiccuped and everything else either works or was not tested. Assuming that those browsers share lots of common code - see where I'm going with this? The entries in your messages file may or may not be relevant, and if they are relevant it will be as a side effect. OHCI is a USB 1.1 implementation, I can't imagine why you have it loaded. Surely you do not have USB 1 only hardware? USB2 deals with that nicely. It is possible that you have a shit storm of USB weirdness going on and this in locking up the desktop. Try disabling USB stuff you don't need and see what gives. I do see where you are going with this and is sort of my thinking too. It seems tho, pidgin wasn't working either. I always have pidgin as online by default but was bumped off during this weird thing going on. Still confusing huh? Oh, my Konsole is run as root. When you say the browser didn't work, what do you mean exactly? Do all request just time out? Do DNS lookups all fail? Is the GUI just stuck? The kind of failure is important to finding the cause. I have something similar - when I copy many large files over wireless to my NFS share using dolphin, the gui is often stalls and stops responding to mouse clicks till the copy is done. Firefox is especially affected. I haven't found what's causing it yet, but it certainly isn't Firefox. btw, konsole isn't running as root unless you do something like sudo konsole from krunner. There's nothing special about a konsole where you became root. All the gui code that gives it focus and lets it run at all is still running as user dale. The only privileged process is the bash running in the terminal When I copied the first error message, I had my cell phone plugged in to charge it up. My phone charges better off the puter than it does from the charger plugged into the wall. Yes, I even bought a new charger. It charges but takes MUCH longer than when plugged into my puter. Anyway. Nothing else plugged in, no printer, no scanner either. Well, just thought of this. My UPS is now USB. I can't unplug that. The second post below the P. S. part, that was with the cell phone unplugged. I been online today and somewhat active. No problem so far. Not finding anything on google tho, that has me puzzled. I just checked, I am still getting that error in messages file. I may have to redo my kernel, reboot and test some more. Just remove ohci and uhci from the kernel config These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message
On 04/10/2013 23:52, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:35:33PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote OHCI is a USB 1.1 implementation, I can't imagine why you have it loaded. Surely you do not have USB 1 only hardware? USB2 deals with that nicely. It is possible that you have a shit storm of USB weirdness going on and this in locking up the desktop. Try disabling USB stuff you don't need and see what gives. Do *NOT* remove lowspeed USB driver... unless you have a rescue USB stick boot handy. I tried that a few years ago and found that my USB keyboard and mouse stopped working. UHCI is used by Intel and VIA cpus, according to the help in make menuconfig. AMD may be OHCI, I don't know. It depends on the hardware on the motherboard, not on the CPU. Different cpus for the most part have matching chipsets and the USB implementation is in the chipset. USB1 had two implementations - uhci and ohci. If you have hardware that is usb1 only, then you need those drivers. These days, that is rare. These days, most motherboards have lots of usb2 ports and when you plug in a keyboard, they run in usb1 mode but still use the ehci driver to do it. I have a usb1 keyboard and mouse plugged into this laptop right now: $ lsmod | grep -i \[uo\]hci firewire_ohci 31868 0 firewire_core 50381 1 firewire_ohci $ lsmod | grep -i ehci_hcd ehci_hcd 38782 1 ehci_pci usbcore 152800 7 btusb,uvcvideo,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,xhci_hcd No [uo]hci. And the only machine I have left with usb1-only hardware dates from 2004, everything else uses only ehci and the lowspeed drivers are not even built. Dale changed his motherboard recently, presumably he knows what his chipset offers -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine
On 04/10/2013 22:53, Bruce Hill wrote: Almost ever awesome performance gain in the last 10 years at least that you see in commercial products were driven in whole or in part by the primary high performance market - gamers. Personally, I don't like games much and don't play them much. OK, I don't play them at all. But the market they make up - that's different. Those egg-heads are very important See previous reply in thread to James. This one was not threaded, but rather, a reply to the OP, so it makes it look as if you haven't read the thread. I played one computer game one day in 1990. Lost that entire day to that stupid game, and never played again. Except...one time for a few hours with a new friend the second year living in China. He wanted me to play NFS. After playing a few races with him, I explained that we do this with _real_cars_ on _real_roads_ in _real_life_ back in America. It developed from the days of moonshining, and your car (and you as a driver) weren't anything if you couldn't outrun the local cops. ;) My gaming yawn was a poor, and needless, expression of disgust. The last two games I played with any seriousness were Leisure Suit Larry and TombRaider that was back in the days when interactive games with decent graphics were still new-ish My kids OTOH, they have umbilical feeds to the XBox. And like you, Dad prefers racing real cars and real bikes -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 22:19, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 18:09, Dale wrote: Sometime last night while I was sleeping, my network sort of hiccuped. If I went to a Konsole, I could ping google so it appears the network was working on the lower level but not one browser that was left open would work. It also didn't/couldn't download new emails. When I restarted the browser, it worked. This is the case for both Seaminkey and Firefox. If it was just one, I'd think browser issue but not two of them at the same time. This is a example of what is in my messages file: Sep 29 03:10:15 localhost kernel: [382175.585718] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 88034092b0c0 path 1 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Sep 29 03:10:17 localhost kernel: [382177.582033] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 8803f06a9d40 path 1 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Sep 29 03:10:19 localhost kernel: [382179.586285] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 8803f06a9680 path 1 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Sep 29 03:10:21 localhost kernel: [382181.582602] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 8803f06a9680 path 1 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Sep 29 03:10:23 localhost kernel: [382183.586879] ohci_hcd :00:12.1: urb 8803f06a9680 path 1 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 What I read from your description is that Seamonkey and Firefox hiccuped and everything else either works or was not tested. Assuming that those browsers share lots of common code - see where I'm going with this? The entries in your messages file may or may not be relevant, and if they are relevant it will be as a side effect. OHCI is a USB 1.1 implementation, I can't imagine why you have it loaded. Surely you do not have USB 1 only hardware? USB2 deals with that nicely. It is possible that you have a shit storm of USB weirdness going on and this in locking up the desktop. Try disabling USB stuff you don't need and see what gives. I do see where you are going with this and is sort of my thinking too. It seems tho, pidgin wasn't working either. I always have pidgin as online by default but was bumped off during this weird thing going on. Still confusing huh? Oh, my Konsole is run as root. When you say the browser didn't work, what do you mean exactly? Do all request just time out? Do DNS lookups all fail? Is the GUI just stuck? It acted like I had no internet connection at all. The lights on my modem didn't even blink nor did the router. The browser responded to me switching tabs and such tho. The kind of failure is important to finding the cause. I have something similar - when I copy many large files over wireless to my NFS share using dolphin, the gui is often stalls and stops responding to mouse clicks till the copy is done. Firefox is especially affected. I haven't found what's causing it yet, but it certainly isn't Firefox. btw, konsole isn't running as root unless you do something like sudo konsole from krunner. There's nothing special about a konsole where you became root. All the gui code that gives it focus and lets it run at all is still running as user dale. The only privileged process is the bash running in the terminal When I open Konsole, it asks for the root password from the start. I always open it as root since that is where I do emerges and such as that. I also edit some files in /etc using it too. It is inside the regular GUI login tho. My point was, it was using root permissions to run ping and such when I tested it. Just in case it could be a permissions thing. I don't use sudo here. When I copied the first error message, I had my cell phone plugged in to charge it up. My phone charges better off the puter than it does from the charger plugged into the wall. Yes, I even bought a new charger. It charges but takes MUCH longer than when plugged into my puter. Anyway. Nothing else plugged in, no printer, no scanner either. Well, just thought of this. My UPS is now USB. I can't unplug that. The second post below the P. S. part, that was with the cell phone unplugged. I been online today and somewhat active. No problem so far. Not finding anything on google tho, that has me puzzled. I just checked, I am still getting that error in messages file. I may have to redo my kernel, reboot and test some more. Just remove ohci and uhci from the kernel config These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) Well, I'm not sure about my UPS. It could be old school usb1. My mouse and keyboard is PS/2 tho. One additional note. It has ran all day with no problems that I have seen. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 23:52, Walter Dnes wrote: Do *NOT* remove lowspeed USB driver... unless you have a rescue USB stick boot handy. I tried that a few years ago and found that my USB keyboard and mouse stopped working. UHCI is used by Intel and VIA cpus, according to the help in make menuconfig. AMD may be OHCI, I don't know. It depends on the hardware on the motherboard, not on the CPU. Different cpus for the most part have matching chipsets and the USB implementation is in the chipset. USB1 had two implementations - uhci and ohci. If you have hardware that is usb1 only, then you need those drivers. These days, that is rare. These days, most motherboards have lots of usb2 ports and when you plug in a keyboard, they run in usb1 mode but still use the ehci driver to do it. I have a usb1 keyboard and mouse plugged into this laptop right now: $ lsmod | grep -i \[uo\]hci firewire_ohci 31868 0 firewire_core 50381 1 firewire_ohci $ lsmod | grep -i ehci_hcd ehci_hcd 38782 1 ehci_pci usbcore 152800 7 btusb,uvcvideo,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,xhci_hcd No [uo]hci. And the only machine I have left with usb1-only hardware dates from 2004, everything else uses only ehci and the lowspeed drivers are not even built. Dale changed his motherboard recently, presumably he knows what his chipset offers This is the rig I built a few years ago. It has a Gigabyte mobo but it hasn't been changed yet. I was planning on it but family issues moved that from a burner to not even on the stove and cold as ice. This issue just sort of popped up out of the blue. Also, I'm using the same kernel I been using for a while now. 3.9.5-gentoo I been using that kernel since the middle of June. I have tested newer ones but ran into other issues, nvidia mostly. My keyboard/mouse is very old school. PS/2. :-D Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:20:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: computer gaming (yawn)... Think again. What is the driving force behind all the super-duper performance hardware you have right now? Gaming. What is the GPU capable of achieving when parallelized? Well, graphics rendering is highly parallelizable and nowadays you see it in render farms and Top500 supercomputers. But those didn;t fund it, so what did? Graphics cards sold to gamers. Graphics cards for gamers are probably the only thing left really keeping the pc market as such going. Yes, there are still millions of them on corporate desktops but that is a cut-throat market and at what-tiny-number-of-bucks a pop? Bread and butter money, it keeps things ticking over and pays the rent. But gamers pay for the bling. Almost ever awesome performance gain in the last 10 years at least that you see in commercial products were driven in whole or in part by the primary high performance market - gamers. Personally, I don't like games much and don't play them much. OK, I don't play them at all. But the market they make up - that's different. Those egg-heads are very important See previous reply in thread to James. This one was not threaded, but rather, a reply to the OP, so it makes it look as if you haven't read the thread. I played one computer game one day in 1990. Lost that entire day to that stupid game, and never played again. Except...one time for a few hours with a new friend the second year living in China. He wanted me to play NFS. After playing a few races with him, I explained that we do this with _real_cars_ on _real_roads_ in _real_life_ back in America. It developed from the days of moonshining, and your car (and you as a driver) weren't anything if you couldn't outrun the local cops. ;) My gaming yawn was a poor, and needless, expression of disgust. Next time you yawn that yawn, though, just remember The reason Unix was written was to port a game.
Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine
Am 04.10.2013 22:53, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:20:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: computer gaming (yawn)... Think again. What is the driving force behind all the super-duper performance hardware you have right now? Gaming. What is the GPU capable of achieving when parallelized? Well, graphics rendering is highly parallelizable and nowadays you see it in render farms and Top500 supercomputers. But those didn;t fund it, so what did? Graphics cards sold to gamers. Graphics cards for gamers are probably the only thing left really keeping the pc market as such going. Yes, there are still millions of them on corporate desktops but that is a cut-throat market and at what-tiny-number-of-bucks a pop? Bread and butter money, it keeps things ticking over and pays the rent. But gamers pay for the bling. Almost ever awesome performance gain in the last 10 years at least that you see in commercial products were driven in whole or in part by the primary high performance market - gamers. Personally, I don't like games much and don't play them much. OK, I don't play them at all. But the market they make up - that's different. Those egg-heads are very important See previous reply in thread to James. This one was not threaded, but rather, a reply to the OP, so it makes it look as if you haven't read the thread. I played one computer game one day in 1990. Lost that entire day to that stupid game, and never played again. Except...one time for a few hours with a new friend the second year living in China. He wanted me to play NFS. After playing a few races with him, I explained that we do this with _real_cars_ on _real_roads_ in _real_life_ back in America. It developed from the days of moonshining, and your car (and you as a driver) weren't anything if you couldn't outrun the local cops. ;) what, with your stupid 55mph speed limit?
Re: [gentoo-user] Switch to VT1 on shutdown fails with mesa = 9.1 and two screens configured in xinerama
On 04.10.2013 14:39, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 14:39, Andreas Prieß wrote: On 04.10.2013 13:20, Andreas Prieß wrote: Since I don't know the cause and didn't find a way to debug this, here are the symptoms: Ever since media-libs/mesa = 9.1 went stable I had the problem, that the switch from Xfce on VT7 back to VT1 on shutdown fails. The screen goes black and does not show anything, but the system halts as normal. It is not possible to switch to VT1 by keyboard while the shutdown is still in progress when this has happened. I can't find anything in the Xorg or other log files according to this problem. Can't find anything related in Gentoo bugzilla or searching the web... The problem always disappeared by downgrading to mesa 9.1, but that now requires other packages to be downgraded too, so I'd like to resolve this. It is an AMD64 system with an ATI Barts PRO [Radeon HD 6850] using KMS, desktop session with Xfce started by x11-misc/lightdm. Any hints on how to debug this problem would be highly appreciated. Maybe this is relevant... Xorg is running a dual head layout using xinerama instead of randr. Composite disabled since it does not work with this config. Your kernel config in the other reply looks fine to me. This dual head setup - do you have one large desktop across two monitors, or two screens configured in xorg.conf? I can never quite remember what xinerama does (I think it's the first one) Can you reproduce the problem using just one configured monitor? The dual head setup with xinerama has two screens configured. The monitors have different resolutions and windows, desktop panels and things got placed in invisible areas otherwise (with Xfce at least). So, there is a new fact: I can NOT reproduce it with only one screen. If I start X without my config files and let it configure one screen automatically, the switch to VT1 on shutdown works as expected. Any hints for the next step? File a bug with mesa? Try other things? -- Andreas
Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message
On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:06:57AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Just remove ohci and uhci from the kernel config
These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you
are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports)
Well, I'm not sure about my UPS. It could be old school usb1. My mouse
and keyboard is PS/2 tho.
One additional note. It has ran all day with no problems that I have
seen.
Dale
The issue is not what interface the UPS uses, but the port(s) on your mobo.
lspci -k will show which kernel drivers your USB controller(s) use
You can also look at the mobo manual, or plug the model # in the
manufacturer's website, and check it's specifications.
Very doubtful you have USB 1.{0,1}, and iirc, almost, if not every, EHCI
controller has an integrated Transaction Translator so that you don't need
UHCI/OHCI anymore.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message
On 05/10/2013 12:13, Dale wrote: Dale changed his motherboard recently, presumably he knows what his chipset offers This is the rig I built a few years ago. It has a Gigabyte mobo but it hasn't been changed yet. I was planning on it but family issues moved that from a burner to not even on the stove and cold as ice. This issue just sort of popped up out of the blue. Also, I'm using the same kernel I been using for a while now. 3.9.5-gentoo I been using that kernel since the middle of June. I have tested newer ones but ran into other issues, nvidia mostly. Basically, it looks like you have a once-off event. Until it happens again, very little you can do wrt troubleshooting -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Switch to VT1 on shutdown fails with mesa = 9.1 and two screens configured in xinerama
On 05/10/2013 13:32, Andreas Prieß wrote: This dual head setup - do you have one large desktop across two monitors, or two screens configured in xorg.conf? I can never quite remember what xinerama does (I think it's the first one) Can you reproduce the problem using just one configured monitor? The dual head setup with xinerama has two screens configured. The monitors have different resolutions and windows, desktop panels and things got placed in invisible areas otherwise (with Xfce at least). So, there is a new fact: I can NOT reproduce it with only one screen. If I start X without my config files and let it configure one screen automatically, the switch to VT1 on shutdown works as expected. Any hints for the next step? File a bug with mesa? Try other things? First step is ually to file a bug at b.g.o. for the mesa team. If that gives no results, move onto filing a bug with mesa. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN
On Tuesday 01 Oct 2013 15:20:06 Bruce Hill wrote: There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time getting a rsync server (for lack of better way to state it). All three comps have the exact same SYNC in make.conf: mingdao@server ~ $ grep SYNC /etc/make.conf SYNC=rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage [snip ...] Can anyone see something obvious, or tell me where to begin checking or something to change? I assume that this problem occurs even when trying to sync the server alone, rather than concurrently with the other two machines. If not, then the rsync mirror may be blocking you due to repeated attempts from the same source IP address. Some things to check: Have you looked at the router's logs to see what happens to the packets? When this fault occurs, have you checked that the server can still resolve URLs and there is no DNS problem? Finally, as has already been mentioned, you could set up a LAN rsync mirror for your machines, but this does not answer why the particular machine is having connection problems. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot
Alan McKinnon writes: On 04/10/2013 17:40, Alex Schuster wrote: Well. Sort of. Emerge also wanted to re-merge libreoffice, I have no idea why. The same happened yesterday when I upgraded portage. Whatever :) This time, I used --exclude app-office/libreoffice to avoid this. probably a poppler or icu or java update, or any one of the many things libreoffice uses that changes ABI at the drop of a hat. Recent portage with subslot support triggers a libreoffice rebuild when that happens, it is seldom an error. You can leave it out of the world emerge to speed things up, but revdep-rebuild is probably going to also find it and want to do the same No, there is something wrong here. When I updated portage, it also remerged libreoffice. Upgrading claws-mail updated dev-libs/libdbusmenu and dev-libs/libindicate, and wanted to remerge libreoffice, which I avoided. Next, I updated chromium, which also remerged libreoffice. Again. And whatever package I try to update, emerge wants to remerge libreoffice. Happens with all the packages I tried, which are adobe-flash, python, zsh, xterm. Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot
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Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:59:52 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: No, there is something wrong here. When I updated portage, it also remerged libreoffice. Upgrading claws-mail updated dev-libs/libdbusmenu and dev-libs/libindicate, and wanted to remerge libreoffice, which I avoided. Next, I updated chromium, which also remerged libreoffice. Again. And whatever package I try to update, emerge wants to remerge libreoffice. Happens with all the packages I tried, which are adobe-flash, python, zsh, xterm. If portage believes LO needs to be rebuilt, it will try to do so whichever packages you are emerging, just let it happen. With a suitable --jobs setting, portage will emerge all the other packages before LO is done. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Multitasking - screwing up several things at once signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot
Neil Bothwick writes: On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:59:52 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: No, there is something wrong here. When I updated portage, it also remerged libreoffice. Upgrading claws-mail updated dev-libs/libdbusmenu and dev-libs/libindicate, and wanted to remerge libreoffice, which I avoided. Next, I updated chromium, which also remerged libreoffice. Again. And whatever package I try to update, emerge wants to remerge libreoffice. Happens with all the packages I tried, which are adobe-flash, python, zsh, xterm. If portage believes LO needs to be rebuilt, it will try to do so whichever packages you are emerging, just let it happen. I already did that, twice, when updating portage and chromium. emerge still wants to remerge libreoffice whenever I upgrade a package. With a suitable --jobs setting, portage will emerge all the other packages before LO is done. No, at least with portage, the installation happened after libreoffice was installed. weird ~ # emerge -1uaj portage These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild r U ] app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.2-r1 [4.1.2.2] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.7 [2.2.0_alpha188] [...] Emerging (1 of 2) app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.2-r1 Emerging (2 of 2) sys-apps/portage-2.2.7 Installing (1 of 2) app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.2-r1 Installing (2 of 2) sys-apps/portage-2.2.7 Jobs: 2 of 2 completeLoad avg: 3.06, 2.76, 2.63 Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot
On 05/10/2013 18:22, Bruce Hill wrote: On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:59:52PM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: No, there is something wrong here. When I updated portage, it also remerged libreoffice. Upgrading claws-mail updated dev-libs/libdbusmenu and dev-libs/libindicate, and wanted to remerge libreoffice, which I avoided. Next, I updated chromium, which also remerged libreoffice. Again. And whatever package I try to update, emerge wants to remerge libreoffice. Happens with all the packages I tried, which are adobe-flash, python, zsh, xterm. Please run: emerge wgetpaste emerge -Djptuv --changed-use @world | wgetpaste If you already have wgetpaste just run: emerge -Djptuv --changed-use @world | wgetpaste and post the link it outputs. Please don't use pastebins Posts here are archived forever, pastebins are not. The information in them is lost forever. Rather just stick the output in the body of a mail where it can be directly read by the person who needs to read it. 1994 went by a long time ago, we no longer care about 80k worth of email body -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot
On 05/10/2013 20:30, Alex Schuster wrote: Neil Bothwick writes: On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:59:52 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: No, there is something wrong here. When I updated portage, it also remerged libreoffice. Upgrading claws-mail updated dev-libs/libdbusmenu and dev-libs/libindicate, and wanted to remerge libreoffice, which I avoided. Next, I updated chromium, which also remerged libreoffice. Again. And whatever package I try to update, emerge wants to remerge libreoffice. Happens with all the packages I tried, which are adobe-flash, python, zsh, xterm. If portage believes LO needs to be rebuilt, it will try to do so whichever packages you are emerging, just let it happen. I already did that, twice, when updating portage and chromium. emerge still wants to remerge libreoffice whenever I upgrade a package. With a suitable --jobs setting, portage will emerge all the other packages before LO is done. No, at least with portage, the installation happened after libreoffice was installed. weird ~ # emerge -1uaj portage These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild r U ] app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.2-r1 [4.1.2.2] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.7 [2.2.0_alpha188] [...] Emerging (1 of 2) app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.2-r1 Emerging (2 of 2) sys-apps/portage-2.2.7 Installing (1 of 2) app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.2-r1 Installing (2 of 2) sys-apps/portage-2.2.7 Jobs: 2 of 2 completeLoad avg: 3.06, 2.76, 2.63 Alex Now that you have upgraded portage, does this behaviour (always wanting to rebuild LO) still happen? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:30:36 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: If portage believes LO needs to be rebuilt, it will try to do so whichever packages you are emerging, just let it happen. I already did that, twice, when updating portage and chromium. emerge still wants to remerge libreoffice whenever I upgrade a package. As a workround, you could remove LO from your world file, do your updates but don't depclean, then put it back with emerge -n libreoffice It may be quicker than trying to track down the cause. -- Neil Bothwick Do you realize how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration?
On 10/03/2013 08:27 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: Let's say you wanted to configure routing of TCP packets based on destination port like in this example: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.netfilter.html [which contains a series of 'ip' and 'iptables' commands to get packets destined for port 25 to use a specific gateway.] How do do this the right way on a Gentoo system? Based on reading http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml, I think I've figured out how to do the iptables part: you enter the 'iptables' commands by hand to get the iptables set up the way you want, then you do this: # /etc/init.d/iptables save # rc-update add iptables default What about the 'ip' commands required to set up the tables, routes, and rules? Do those go in a startup script somewhere? Does one just edit /etc/iproute2/rt_tables by hand? One would assume route configuration belongs in /etc/conf.d/net -- I've read through the advanced networking stuff in the handbook, but it's not apparent to me where those 'ip' command belong. in /etc/conf.d/net just add the following (adjust as appropriate) rules_eth1=( from all to 8.8.8.8/24 lookup 101 )
Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user
Hi, I do have -consolekit systemd policykit and yes, my kernel is properly configured. To avoid playing around I did reinstalled it again! and guess what? After installing gnome-tweak-tools and shell-extensions and use the tweak tools to do some changes, after reboot, again: blank screen trying to start gnome. So, I unmerged the packages and did: emerge @preserved-rebuild revdep-rebuild emerge -1 gnome but seems not to work, again, I can log in as root, not as user. On 1 October 2013 06:49, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Mates, I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue: I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as root. What I have done before this started: emerge -uDvaN world emerge --depclean --ask emerge @preserved-rebuild Then it just happened. What I've tried so far: - .xinitrc with exec gnome-session for user and root - emerge -1 $( qlist -IC x11-drivers/ ) - emerge @x11-module-rebuild - X -configure Another note: Starting gnome as normal user just hang, apparently it wants to start but it cannot start. Neither doing: startx. I am using for xorg: VIDEO_CARDS=intel vesa Any help? Could you please boot up your machine, let GDM start, and then from a console do systemctl --all --full, and post here its output? Also, can you try to do: USE=systemd -consolekit policykit emerge -uDNvp world Does any package wants to be reemerged? Lastly, does your kernel contains all the configuration options required by systemd/udev? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com www.carlossura.com/blog
Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user
Update: I was desperate trying to rebuild everything or reinstalling or whatever idea I had. So, my logic said: if root works why others users wont?, then I decided to create another user, and guess what? it worked. So I removed my user and then created a new one and it worked. Yeah this is fine and great that worked, but I would like to know: Why? Thanks. On 5 October 2013 17:10, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I do have -consolekit systemd policykit and yes, my kernel is properly configured. To avoid playing around I did reinstalled it again! and guess what? After installing gnome-tweak-tools and shell-extensions and use the tweak tools to do some changes, after reboot, again: blank screen trying to start gnome. So, I unmerged the packages and did: emerge @preserved-rebuild revdep-rebuild emerge -1 gnome but seems not to work, again, I can log in as root, not as user. On 1 October 2013 06:49, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Mates, I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue: I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as root. What I have done before this started: emerge -uDvaN world emerge --depclean --ask emerge @preserved-rebuild Then it just happened. What I've tried so far: - .xinitrc with exec gnome-session for user and root - emerge -1 $( qlist -IC x11-drivers/ ) - emerge @x11-module-rebuild - X -configure Another note: Starting gnome as normal user just hang, apparently it wants to start but it cannot start. Neither doing: startx. I am using for xorg: VIDEO_CARDS=intel vesa Any help? Could you please boot up your machine, let GDM start, and then from a console do systemctl --all --full, and post here its output? Also, can you try to do: USE=systemd -consolekit policykit emerge -uDNvp world Does any package wants to be reemerged? Lastly, does your kernel contains all the configuration options required by systemd/udev? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com www.carlossura.com/blog -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com www.carlossura.com/blog
Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 18:08:38 -0600 Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Update: I was desperate trying to rebuild everything or reinstalling or whatever idea I had. So, my logic said: if root works why others users wont?, then I decided to create another user, and guess what? it worked. So I removed my user and then created a new one and it worked. Yeah this is fine and great that worked, but I would like to know: Why? Thanks. On 5 October 2013 17:10, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I do have -consolekit systemd policykit and yes, my kernel is properly configured. To avoid playing around I did reinstalled it again! and guess what? After installing gnome-tweak-tools and shell-extensions and use the tweak tools to do some changes, after reboot, again: blank screen trying to start gnome. So, I unmerged the packages and did: emerge @preserved-rebuild revdep-rebuild emerge -1 gnome but seems not to work, again, I can log in as root, not as user. On 1 October 2013 06:49, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Mates, I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this issue: I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as root. What I have done before this started: emerge -uDvaN world emerge --depclean --ask emerge @preserved-rebuild Then it just happened. What I've tried so far: - .xinitrc with exec gnome-session for user and root - emerge -1 $( qlist -IC x11-drivers/ ) - emerge @x11-module-rebuild - X -configure Another note: Starting gnome as normal user just hang, apparently it wants to start but it cannot start. Neither doing: startx. I am using for xorg: VIDEO_CARDS=intel vesa Any help? Could you please boot up your machine, let GDM start, and then from a console do systemctl --all --full, and post here its output? Also, can you try to do: USE=systemd -consolekit policykit emerge -uDNvp world Does any package wants to be reemerged? Lastly, does your kernel contains all the configuration options required by systemd/udev? Whenever I have trouble with gnome, the first thing I do is remove any .gnome*-type folders in ~/. My guess is that in some cases gnome saved data isn't compatible with the new gnome configuration. Cheers, -- - - - Michael Higgins -
Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Update: I was desperate trying to rebuild everything or reinstalling or whatever idea I had. So, my logic said: if root works why others users wont?, then I decided to create another user, and guess what? it worked. So I removed my user and then created a new one and it worked. Yeah this is fine and great that worked, but I would like to know: Why? Please don't top-post. When this kind of thing happens, remove $HOME/.config. In theory, that should get you a clean slate. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
