[gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-09 Thread chrissie

Hi,

after a upgrade i ran into the following problems:
(emerge --deep --upgrade --newuse world)

I habe to Network Interface Cards installed in my machine: one VIA-Rhine-II
and one 3Com 3c59x. Now the cards get randomized at every boot, sometimes teh
VIA is eth0, sometimes the 3Com. I want the 3Com to be eth0 at every time,
how to fix this?

If i launch gnome-volume-control, i get the following message:
gnome-volume-control: symbol lookup error: gnome-volume-control: undefined
symbol: __gst_debug_min
I already searched the web, re-emerged gstreamer, gstreamer-oss,
gstreamer-alsa but still no solution.

Everytime i log into Gnome, the gnome-settings-daemon crashes, and bug-buddy
shows up. If i press Cancel in Bug-Buddy, gnome-settings-daemon crashes again
and again. If i move the Bug-Buddy-window to Workspace 4 everything works
fine and the settings are correct. Also the settings-daemon is running. This
happens after i emerged the clearlooks-theme.

The machine is AMD XP 1500+/256 MB RAM
And yes, i did etc-update recently.

Thanks for any pointers in the right direction.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-09 Thread Dale
chrissie wrote:
 Hi,

 after a upgrade i ran into the following problems:
 (emerge --deep --upgrade --newuse world)

 I habe to Network Interface Cards installed in my machine: one VIA-Rhine-II
 and one 3Com 3c59x. Now the cards get randomized at every boot, sometimes teh
 VIA is eth0, sometimes the 3Com. I want the 3Com to be eth0 at every time,
 how to fix this?

 If i launch gnome-volume-control, i get the following message:
 gnome-volume-control: symbol lookup error: gnome-volume-control: undefined
 symbol: __gst_debug_min
 I already searched the web, re-emerged gstreamer, gstreamer-oss,
 gstreamer-alsa but still no solution.

 Everytime i log into Gnome, the gnome-settings-daemon crashes, and bug-buddy
 shows up. If i press Cancel in Bug-Buddy, gnome-settings-daemon crashes again
 and again. If i move the Bug-Buddy-window to Workspace 4 everything works
 fine and the settings are correct. Also the settings-daemon is running. This
 happens after i emerged the clearlooks-theme.

 The machine is AMD XP 1500+/256 MB RAM
 And yes, i did etc-update recently.

 Thanks for any pointers in the right direction.
   

I'm not sure how much this will help but I read this the other day when
someone else was having simalar problems.  You can tell udev to set the
names each time to the same thing.  It is done through udev rules if I
recall correctly.  I think it does it by using the mac address too.

I don't know how to do it but you may can search the forums or the
archives here and find a fix faster than waiting on a guru to roll out
of bed.  ;-)

I hope this helps, get you started anyway.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] dbus downgrade via revdep-rebuild

2007-01-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 09 January 2007 08:01, Grant wrote:
 I upgraded to dbus-1.0.2, but a subsequent revdep-rebuild wants to
 downgrade dbus back to 0.62-r2.  How can I fix this?

Try to re-emerge those packages that pull in 0.62-r2. Then repeat your 
revdep-rebuild.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:20:18 +0100, chrissie wrote:

 I habe to Network Interface Cards installed in my machine: one
 VIA-Rhine-II and one 3Com 3c59x. Now the cards get randomized at every
 boot, sometimes teh VIA is eth0, sometimes the 3Com. I want the 3Com to
 be eth0 at every time, how to fix this?

Set up some udev rules as in my post of a few hours ago on net.eth0
net.eth1 net.eth2 *


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?

2007-01-09 Thread Richard Fish

On 1/8/07, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A quick bit of Googling yields:
http://www.leenooks.com/Ricoh+Co+Ltd+R5C8xx+SD%252fMMC%252fMS%252fMSPro%252fxD%252fSC+Card+reader

Looks like there is partial support for the SD/MMC aspect of these. I'll maybe 
give it a shot when I get home tonight :)


Interesting.  The last time I looked was around April '06, and the
outlook didn't look good at that time.  Nice to know things have
improved here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Core 2 duo: Building threaded program versions

2007-01-09 Thread Richard Fish

On 1/8/07, Nico Schümann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

thread-using way? It's not that nice to see the machine in idle at
all^^ Maybe there's any hidden use flag I haven't heard of or so :)


Just turn on disk encryption with dm-crypt.  That will take care of
the extra core is idle problem! ;-

-Richard

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RE: [gentoo-user] display adjustments

2007-01-09 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
 -Original Message-
 From: Iain Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 January 2007 23:14
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] display adjustments
 
 
 On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 02:12 +, James wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I have a one new gentoo sytems installed that works good with a 20
  Sceptre LCD monitor.
  
  However, when I move the hdmi connector to a 32 vizio hdtv/display,
  the display is too large for the physical screen. This happens
  before I 'startx' and after kde/X starts up.
 
 what is the actual native resolution of the 32 hdtv?  I 
 would guess not
 as good as the 20 LCD, which is probably 1680x1200.  HDTV can support
 up to 1920x1440 I think, but here in Aust. we only get 1600x1080 or
 something stupid like that.  Unless it's a high end HDTV, you 
 may not be
 getting 1920x1440.  Try changing the resolution to 1024x768, then work
 your way up.  Also try and get the frequencies of the tv, and 
 set those
 explicitly.

HDTV is 1280x720 or 1920x1080, either progressive (eg 720p or 1080p) or
interlaced (1080i)
If his HDTV only does 1280x720 (very possible, most 32in panels I saw
when I worked for an electronics store up until this summer were usually
something like 1366x768 native res or such) then it is very possible his
20in LCD supports a higher resolution, like 1680x1050 (widescreen) or
1600x1200 (4:3). Then again, I live in the UK.

 
 I don't know much about HDMI - is it just analog video (ie. component)
 with HD capability and DRM?
 
 If so, you may want to look for some TV settings in your 
 xorg.conf like
 overscan.  I've found that depending on the card / tv combo I'm using,
 the picture can be too big, too small, too far to the left, etc.
 

HDMI is essentially DVI + 5.1 Surround sound + DRM. It's a digital
connection, not analogue. Component connections (Pb/Pr/Y) are analogue
HD connections.

 HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] QT4's qtconfig

2007-01-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 07 January 2007 16:12, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
 As I have wrote, 'qtconfig' demands 'qt3support' flag.

 === On Sunday 07 January 2007 18:57, Graham Murray wrote: ===

 Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Probably somebody has (unstable) 4.2.2 installed... The thing is, v.4.2.2
  is the first Qt4 installation on this machine. If anybody has 4.2.2 -
  please, verify '/usr/bin/qtconfig' belongs to *this* version.

 On my ~x86 system I have qt-3.3.6-r5 and qt-4.2.2 installed and the
 only qtconfig I have is /usr/qt/3/bin/qtconfig. I do not have
 /usr/bin/qtconfig at all.

This is from a stable x86 box:

# equery belongs qtconfig
[ Searching for file(s) qtconfig in *... ]
x11-libs/qt-4.1.4-r2 (/usr/bin/qtconfig)
x11-libs/qt-3.3.6-r4 (/usr/qt/3/bin/qtconfig)

and 

# slocate qtconfig
/usr/qt/3/bin/qtconfig
/usr/bin/qtconfig
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pyqtconfig.py

Running qtconfig launches the /usr/bin/qtconfig of course, from qt-4.1.4-r2.

 x11-libs/qt-4.2.2 USE=cups dbus doc examples gif glib jpeg mng opengl
 png postgres sqlite zlib -accessibility -debug -firebird -mysql -nas
 -nis -odbc -pch -qt3support -sqlite3 -xinerama INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom

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Re: [gentoo-user] bash_completion

2007-01-09 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 January 2007 00:25, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:17:59PM +, Penguin Lover Jorge Almeida 
squawked:
  Not really all kind of completion, but I noticed that it froze on
  trivial completions (the kind that should work even without
  bash-completion).

 Hold on, so the command completions, like say tar tabtab giving
 you A c d r t u x actually works, but filename completion doesn't?
 (It might help pin point the problem.)

  I won't be able to access my home box for a few days. I will try all
  your suggestions then.

Not sure if this helps:  I do not have bash-completion emerged in my system 
and I am running bash-3.1_p17.  The relevant bash line in my .bashrc looks 
slightly different to Jorge's:
===
##uncomment the following to activate bash-completion:
#[ -f /etc/profile.d/bash-completion ]  
source /etc/profile.d/bash-completion
===
(note the single [ brackets) and it is commented out.  Nevertheless, bash 
completion seems to work fine both in completing commands and filenames and 
in listing options if more than one alternative is present.
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Re: [gentoo-user] QT4's qtconfig

2007-01-09 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Mick,

You have missed resolution :-) Citing:

As I have wrote, 'qtconfig' demands 'qt3support' flag.

=== On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:02, Mick wrote: ===
On Sunday 07 January 2007 16:12, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
 As I have wrote, 'qtconfig' demands 'qt3support' flag.

 === On Sunday 07 January 2007 18:57, Graham Murray wrote: ===

 Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Probably somebody has (unstable) 4.2.2 installed... The thing is, v.4.2.2
  is the first Qt4 installation on this machine. If anybody has 4.2.2 -
  please, verify '/usr/bin/qtconfig' belongs to *this* version.

 On my ~x86 system I have qt-3.3.6-r5 and qt-4.2.2 installed and the
 only qtconfig I have is /usr/qt/3/bin/qtconfig. I do not have
 /usr/bin/qtconfig at all.

This is from a stable x86 box:

# equery belongs qtconfig
[ Searching for file(s) qtconfig in *... ]
x11-libs/qt-4.1.4-r2 (/usr/bin/qtconfig)
x11-libs/qt-3.3.6-r4 (/usr/qt/3/bin/qtconfig)

and 

# slocate qtconfig
/usr/qt/3/bin/qtconfig
/usr/bin/qtconfig
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pyqtconfig.py

Running qtconfig launches the /usr/bin/qtconfig of course, from qt-4.1.4-r2.

 x11-libs/qt-4.2.2 USE=cups dbus doc examples gif glib jpeg mng opengl
 png postgres sqlite zlib -accessibility -debug -firebird -mysql -nas
 -nis -odbc -pch -qt3support -sqlite3 -xinerama INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom

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Re: [gentoo-user] wine compilation errors

2007-01-09 Thread CapSel

I added en to LINGUAS and I emerged all autoconf and automake ports,
m4, bison, binutils, flex, gawk, sed and I get this:

../../tools/winegcc/winegcc -B../../tools/winebuild -shared ./dpnet.specaddr
ess.o client.o dpnet_main.o peer.o regsvr.o server.oversion.res   -o dpnet.d
ll.so  -lole32 -luser32 -ladvapi32 -lkernel32  -ldxguid -luuid ../../libs/port/l
ibwine_port.a
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wine-0.9.22/work/wine-0.9.22/dlls/dpnet'
make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wine-0.9.22/work/wine-0.9.22/dlls/dpnhpast'
Makefile:460: warning: NUL character seen; rest of line ignored
Makefile:473: warning: NUL character seen; rest of line ignored
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../../include/w', needed by
`main.o'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wine-0.9.22/work/wine-0.9.22/dlls/dpnhpast'
make[1]: *** [dpnhpast] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/wine-0.9.22/work/wine-0.9.22/dlls'
make: *** [dlls] Error 2

!!! ERROR: app-emulation/wine-0.9.22 failed.
Call stack:
 ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_compile
 ebuild.sh, line 937:   Called src_compile
 wine-0.9.22.ebuild, line 111:   Called die

!!! all
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.

It looks like this is error in random Makefile, there are series of
dots on black background when I look at mcedit and less shows [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

What else can couse these errors?

On 1/8/07, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/7/07, CapSel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... what else can I do?

I don't see anything obviously wrong.  It looks like the problem
appears when autoconf/automake are run to generate the Makefiles.
Searching bugzilla for similar things leads me to believe that the
nls USE flag and non-english language settings could have an effect
here.  Another similar bug was traced to the version of sed being
used, but that was quite old.  However, all of the relevant bugs seem
quite old.

Still, you might try:

LINGUAS=en en_US emerge wine

If it is still broke, take a look at (and/or post)
/var/tmp/portage/wine-0.9.22/work/wine-0.9.22/dlls/oleaut32/Makefile

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Re: [gentoo-user] QT4's qtconfig

2007-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 14:26:56 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:

 You have missed resolution :-) Citing:

Probably because it was top-posted and people expect the find the answer
after the question.


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[gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread John covici
Hi.  I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate modules for
apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
gentoo.  All I found was php5 which will break some apps which I will
need to install.

any assistance would be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Gian Domeni Calgeer
Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 13:36 schrieb John covici:
 Hi.  I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate modules for
 apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
 gentoo.  All I found was php5 which will break some apps which I will
 need to install.

Hi

Try emerge -va =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6

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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
 -Original Message-
 From: Gian Domeni Calgeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 January 2007 12:46
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
 
 
 Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 13:36 schrieb John covici:
  Hi.  I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate 
 modules for
  apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
  gentoo.  All I found was php5 which will break some apps 
 which I will
  need to install.
 
 Hi
 
 Try emerge -va =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6
 
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As a more general learning point I would add (for the benefit of the OP) that 
if you want to emerge a specific package you do:

emerge =category/pacakage-version

Available versions can be seen by doing:

ls /usr/portage/dev-lang/php/*.ebuild

Which should list all php ebuilds available.

Cheers

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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread John covici
OK, thanks much -- the strange thing is when I did emerge -s php how
come I did not see the php4 packages -- only the php5 ones?

Also, is there any way while doing a search to see the reason for a
package being masked?

Thanks again.

on Tuesday 01/09/2007 Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
   -Original Message-
   From: Gian Domeni Calgeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 09 January 2007 12:46
   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
   Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
   
   
   Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 13:36 schrieb John covici:
Hi.  I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate 
   modules for
apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
gentoo.  All I found was php5 which will break some apps 
   which I will
need to install.
   
   Hi
   
   Try emerge -va =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6
   
   Gian
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  As a more general learning point I would add (for the benefit of the OP) 
  that if you want to emerge a specific package you do:
  
  emerge =category/pacakage-version
  
  Available versions can be seen by doing:
  
  ls /usr/portage/dev-lang/php/*.ebuild
  
  Which should list all php ebuilds available.
  
  Cheers
  
  David
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Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2007-01-09 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
 have the same problem
 as with Gnome, still can[not] switch to a VT...

 If I open a term and try the usual Ctrl + Alt + F1 to F7 key
 combination I get :

 PQRS;7~;7~;7~

First: stop top-posting.

  A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
  Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
  A: Top-posting.
  Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?

Second: re-emerge xf86-input-keyboard, xkeyboard-config, and 
xkbcomp.  Then restart X.

If then it still doesn't work, show the output of 
'setxkbmap -print' and 'emerge --info'.

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[gentoo-user] Re: How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Alexander Skwar
John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 OK, thanks much -- the strange thing is when I did emerge -s php how
 come I did not see the php4 packages -- only the php5 ones?

That's simple - there are no php4 or php5 packagews. There's only
a php package (dev-lang/php), as can be seen by running emerge -s php:

*  dev-lang/php
  Latest version available: 5.1.6-r8
  Latest version installed: 5.1.6-r8
  Size of files: 6,389 kB
  Homepage:  http://www.php.net/
  Description:   The PHP language runtime engine: CLI, CGI and Apache SAPIs.
  License:   PHP-3

Which version to emerge is determined by selecting the appropriate
version.

 Also, is there any way while doing a search to see the reason for a
 package being masked?

Check out the file profiles/package.mask in your portage tree;
eg. /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask.

Alexander Skwar

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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread John covici
I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild.  I have in my
/etc/portage/package.keywords  the following line
dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
but emerge still complains about the package being masked.  What am I
doing wrong here?

Thanks.

on Tuesday 01/09/2007 Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
   -Original Message-
   From: Gian Domeni Calgeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 09 January 2007 12:46
   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
   Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
   
   
   Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 13:36 schrieb John covici:
Hi.  I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate 
   modules for
apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
gentoo.  All I found was php5 which will break some apps 
   which I will
need to install.
   
   Hi
   
   Try emerge -va =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6
   
   Gian
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  As a more general learning point I would add (for the benefit of the OP) 
  that if you want to emerge a specific package you do:
  
  emerge =category/pacakage-version
  
  Available versions can be seen by doing:
  
  ls /usr/portage/dev-lang/php/*.ebuild
  
  Which should list all php ebuilds available.
  
  Cheers
  
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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 08:49 -0500, John covici wrote:
 I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild.  I have in my
 /etc/portage/package.keywords  the following line
 dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
 but emerge still complains about the package being masked.  What am I
 doing wrong here?
 
 Thanks.

Is the package hard-masked?  (as in package.mask - when you get the
this package is masked message, it should tell you all the wways that
it has been masked...)

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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread John covici
It says masked by keywords -- that is why I did what I did.

on Tuesday 01/09/2007 Michael Sullivan([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 08:49 -0500, John covici wrote:
   I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild.  I have in my
   /etc/portage/package.keywords  the following line
   dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
   but emerge still complains about the package being masked.  What am I
   doing wrong here?
   
   Thanks.
  
  Is the package hard-masked?  (as in package.mask - when you get the
  this package is masked message, it should tell you all the wways that
  it has been masked...)
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:49, John covici wrote:
 I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild.  I have in my
 /etc/portage/package.keywords  the following line
 dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
 but emerge still complains about the package being masked.  What am I
 doing wrong here?

dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 is an invalid atom. =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 
or ~dev-lang/php-4.4.4 would be valid atoms. You can read more about valid 
atoms in `man 5 ebuild`.

PS: Please stop top-posting:

  A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
  Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
  A: Top-posting.
  Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:18, John covici wrote:
 Also, is there any way while doing a search to see the reason for a
 package being masked?

# eix -e php
[I] dev-lang/php
 Available versions:
(4) !4.3.11-r5 4.4.4-r6 ~4.4.4-r8
(5) 5.0.5-r5 5.1.6-r6 ~5.1.6-r8
 Description: The PHP language runtime engine: CLI, CGI and Apache 
SAPIs.

This shows that 4.3.11-r5 is masked by missing keyword and 4.4.4-r8 is masked
by ~keyword. It's all explained in `man eix`. And of course it requires you to
install app-portage/eix. As an added bonus eix is way faster that `emerge -s`.
:)

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:49:16 -0500, John covici wrote:

 I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild.  I have in my
 /etc/portage/package.keywords  the following line
 dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
 but emerge still complains about the package being masked.  What am I
 doing wrong here?

That should be =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86

If a package contains a version, it must start with one or more of
=, ~, , , !

PS, please don't top post.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread John covici
OK, that did it -- now I have to find out why it wants a bunch of X
libraries, but that is another question for another day.

thanks much guys for all your help.



on Tuesday 01/09/2007 Bo Ørsted Andresen([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:49, John covici wrote:
   I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild.  I have in my
   /etc/portage/package.keywords  the following line
   dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
   but emerge still complains about the package being masked.  What am I
   doing wrong here?
  
  dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 is an invalid atom. =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 
  or ~dev-lang/php-4.4.4 would be valid atoms. You can read more about valid 
  atoms in `man 5 ebuild`.
  
  PS: Please stop top-posting:
  
A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?
  
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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
 -Original Message-
 From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 January 2007 14:39
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
 
 
 OK, that did it -- now I have to find out why it wants a bunch of X
 libraries, but that is another question for another day.
 
 thanks much guys for all your help.
 

--snip --


You can do:

USE=-X emerge =category/foo-1.2.3-r4

For example this should in some cases stop (the fictional package) foo pulling 
in X libs.


   
   PS: Please stop top-posting:
   
 A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 A: Top-posting.
 Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?
   
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David

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 09:38:34AM -0500, John covici wrote:
 OK, that did it -- now I have to find out why it wants a bunch of X
 libraries, but that is another question for another day.
 
 thanks much guys for all your help.
 
Thanks so much for listening to others concerning group etiquette and
top-posting.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Mark Shields

On 1/9/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:49:16 -0500, John covici wrote:

 I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild.  I have in my
 /etc/portage/package.keywords  the following line
 dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
 but emerge still complains about the package being masked.  What am I
 doing wrong here?

That should be =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86

If a package contains a version, it must start with one or more of
=, ~, , , !

PS, please don't top post.


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=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86 is excessive. =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 is all
that is needed for the package.keywords file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:09:46 -0500, Mark Shields wrote:

 =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86 is excessive. =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 is
 all that is needed for the package.keywords file.

You are assuming that make.conf contains ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86, this may
not be the case.

Omitting the arch from package.keywords is a special case that may not
always apply. It is better to be specific than rely on assumptions...
unless those four bytes of disk space are critical


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/10/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:09:46 -0500, Mark Shields wrote:

 =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86 is excessive. =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 is
 all that is needed for the package.keywords file.

You are assuming that make.conf contains ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86, this may
not be the case.

Omitting the arch from package.keywords is a special case that may not
always apply. It is better to be specific than rely on assumptions...
unless those four bytes of disk space are critical


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Indeed, I've been paranoid on occasions where the situation I wasn't
sure what i would get, so just to be certain ( im using
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 and i got sick of the kernel updating so often
) I did

=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6 x86 -~x86

its probably a little non-standard, but at least theres no real ambiguity.



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like an idiot.






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[gentoo-user] Extracting hashes from MSWindows SAM files

2007-01-09 Thread Mick
Hi All,

Do you know if Gentoo offers any tool(s) to extract the hash numbers from 
MSWindows SAM files?  I am thinking of the Linux equivalent of e.g. 
pwdump.exe

I need the hashes to be able to run john:
==
# john sam
No password hashes loaded
==

I've looked around but couldn't find anything.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4

2007-01-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 09 January 2007 17:35, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 Neil Bothwick
 
 There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking
 like an idiot.

A very fine one. ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Extracting hashes from MSWindows SAM files

2007-01-09 Thread norman
perhaps this can be of use

http://www.antsight.com/zsl/rainbowcrack/ it takes some time to build the 
tables and the files generated a big.

cheers

norman

Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,

Do you know if Gentoo offers any tool(s) to extract the hash numbers from 
MSWindows SAM files?  I am thinking of the Linux equivalent of e.g. 
pwdump.exe

I need the hashes to be able to run john:
==
# john sam
No password hashes loaded
==

I've looked around but couldn't find anything.
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[gentoo-user] Nvidia and Minefield?

2007-01-09 Thread Bruno Lustosa

Hello, list.

I'm running Gentoo on my box, and got (almost) everything on ~x86,
with the exception of gcc, glibc and binutils, as these have rendered
my box completely b0rked in the past.
(un?)fortunately, this machine has an nvidia graphics display, and we
all know nvidia linux drivers are very far from perfect. I myself have
seen all kind of strange behaviour and lockups with them on various
machines.
Now, I'm helping test Minefield (a.k.a. Firefox 3). And here comes the problems:

- If I try Minefield with nvidia drivers, I experience X lockup (100%
cpu and completely unresponsive) as soon as I try to either open a
message on Gmail or try to compose a new mail. I was going to post
this message when it locked.
- Firefox 2 with nvidia drivers seem to be OK (I'm posting this right
now on it).
- X with opensource nv drivers eat 80% cpu time even when doing
nothing. My box becomes very sluggish, and it looks like my old 486
dx2 :)

I find it very strange that Minefield can bring X down by simply
opening a message or trying to compose new mail. I have managed to
reproduce this error here several times. When this happens, I have to
ssh in, kill -9 X, and then wait a bit for gdm to restart it.

This is very very annoying.

If I could, I would leave nvidia forever, but I guess there are no
better (or less worse) alternative, so I must stick to these crappy
drivers.
Also, this seems to have started after I had to replace nvidia-drivers
with nvidia-legacy-drivers.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] bash_completion

2007-01-09 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/9/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 08 January 2007 00:25, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:17:59PM +, Penguin Lover Jorge Almeida
squawked:
  Not really all kind of completion, but I noticed that it froze on
  trivial completions (the kind that should work even without
  bash-completion).

 Hold on, so the command completions, like say tar tabtab giving
 you A c d r t u x actually works, but filename completion doesn't?
 (It might help pin point the problem.)

  I won't be able to access my home box for a few days. I will try all
  your suggestions then.

Not sure if this helps:  I do not have bash-completion emerged in my system
and I am running bash-3.1_p17.  The relevant bash line in my .bashrc looks
slightly different to Jorge's:
===
##uncomment the following to activate bash-completion:
#[ -f /etc/profile.d/bash-completion ] 
source /etc/profile.d/bash-completion
===
(note the single [ brackets) and it is commented out.  Nevertheless, bash
completion seems to work fine both in completing commands and filenames and
in listing options if more than one alternative is present.
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Interesting to note, with Bash-3.2  2006-03-01 Bash-Completion,
you'll find if you check your latest /etc/skel/.bashrc which is
provided to new users now completely lacks the bash completion line,
and upon merging of that 20060301 bash completion it notifies you that
hey, you dont need to even do that anymore cos we thought it was
kludgy and tells you just to do an
eselect bashcomp enable base
but I cant vouch for that actually working :/





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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and Minefield?

2007-01-09 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/10/07, Bruno Lustosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello, list.

I'm running Gentoo on my box, and got (almost) everything on ~x86,
with the exception of gcc, glibc and binutils, as these have rendered
my box completely b0rked in the past.
(un?)fortunately, this machine has an nvidia graphics display, and we
all know nvidia linux drivers are very far from perfect. I myself have
seen all kind of strange behaviour and lockups with them on various
machines.
Now, I'm helping test Minefield (a.k.a. Firefox 3). And here comes the problems:

- If I try Minefield with nvidia drivers, I experience X lockup (100%
cpu and completely unresponsive) as soon as I try to either open a
message on Gmail or try to compose a new mail. I was going to post
this message when it locked.
- Firefox 2 with nvidia drivers seem to be OK (I'm posting this right
now on it).
- X with opensource nv drivers eat 80% cpu time even when doing
nothing. My box becomes very sluggish, and it looks like my old 486
dx2 :)

I find it very strange that Minefield can bring X down by simply
opening a message or trying to compose new mail. I have managed to
reproduce this error here several times. When this happens, I have to
ssh in, kill -9 X, and then wait a bit for gdm to restart it.

This is very very annoying.

If I could, I would leave nvidia forever, but I guess there are no
better (or less worse) alternative, so I must stick to these crappy
drivers.
Also, this seems to have started after I had to replace nvidia-drivers
with nvidia-legacy-drivers.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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Heh, imagine the confusion I was having when nvidia + xcomposite hard
locked my computer :/

If SSH works then you might want to investigate MAGIC_SYSRQ hot-keys
as an alternative ( depending on the environment, some say its a
security risk, but i figure if they have access to a keyboard in front
of your box then security is beyond compromised. )

http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/Documentation/sysrq.txt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_Skinny_Elephants_Is_Utterly_Boring

For your problem i reccon a magic K followed by a VT Switch ( K will
often kill X in cases where X's own kill switches fail ) followed by a
gdm restart, if you can't be bothered leaving your seat to find an ssh
box :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Core 2 duo: Building threaded program versions

2007-01-09 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/9/07, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 1/8/07, Nico Schümann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thread-using way? It's not that nice to see the machine in idle at
 all^^ Maybe there's any hidden use flag I haven't heard of or so :)

Just turn on disk encryption with dm-crypt.  That will take care of
the extra core is idle problem! ;-

-Richard

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and theres the rare chance you could be decompressing faster than you
have hard drive access, but that might be a bit far fetched. I
shouldn't post so early in the AM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2 persist in trying to come up even though not in any run level.

2007-01-09 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 01:13, Iain Buchanan wrote:

 hmm, now I look at it, I have RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!bluetooth, and yet the
 bluetooth service is still started automatically (not in any runlevel).

 thoughts? thanks,

Could it be that bluetooth is the wrong name for it?  Is it identified as 
bluetooth in ifconfig?

I can't really compare with mine because bluetooth won't come up no matter 
what.  :-(
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Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-09 Thread chrissie
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:31:17AM -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 1/9/07, chrissie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I habe to Network Interface Cards installed in my machine: one VIA-Rhine-II
 and one 3Com 3c59x. Now the cards get randomized at every boot, sometimes teh
 VIA is eth0, sometimes the 3Com. I want the 3Com to be eth0 at every time,
 how to fix this?
 
 Assuming you just upgraded to udev-103, run:
 
 # /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces
 
balearen chrissie # /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules exists, persistent interface names
not saved.

 Then edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to assign the
 interface names you want if they turn up wrong.

balearen chrissie # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[...]
# PCI device 0x1106:0x3065 (via-rhine)
SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:0b:6a:c2:de:7f,
NAME=eth0

I think there is nothing wrong at the moment, via-rhine should be the eth0
interface. But it is the 3com at the moment (just wondering if it is
via-rhine after the next boot).

balearen chrissie # ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:4B:42:98:29
  inet addr:10.11.1.100  Bcast:10.11.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0learen
[...]

chrissie # cat /etc/conf.d/net
[...]
config_eth0=( 10.11.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 10.11.1.255 )
routes_eth0=( default gw 10.11.1.1 )

Ok, i can remove the second card from this desktop-system because i really do
not need it at the moment. But i am looking for the gentoo way to solve this
problem, especially if you have three network cards from the same vendor.

 If i launch gnome-volume-control, i get the following message:
 gnome-volume-control: symbol lookup error: gnome-volume-control: undefined
 symbol: __gst_debug_min
 I already searched the web, re-emerged gstreamer, gstreamer-oss,
 gstreamer-alsa but still no solution.
 
 Everytime i log into Gnome, the gnome-settings-daemon crashes, and bug-buddy
 shows up. If i press Cancel in Bug-Buddy, gnome-settings-daemon crashes again
 and again. If i move the Bug-Buddy-window to Workspace 4 everything works
 fine and the settings are correct. Also the settings-daemon is running. This
 happens after i emerged the clearlooks-theme.
 
 I don't use gnome, so I cannot say for sure, but maybe you need to do
 a revdep-rebuild to rebuild anything with broken dependancies?

balearen chrissie # revdep-rebuild
Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild
Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
Checking dynamic linking consistency...

some evolution-links msissing, but nothing directly assigned to gnome or
volume.

Assigning files to ebuilds... done.
Evaluating package order... done.
dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done.

Any hints, also about the gnome-settings-daemon problem?
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Re: [gentoo-user] bash_completion

2007-01-09 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, Willie Wong wrote:



how about if you do

compgen -F _longopt

It should print out an unsorted list of all the files and subdirs of
the given dir. Does it freeze up?


It doesn't freeze, and it displays what you said. However, the first two
output lines are:
ash: compgen: warning: -F option may not work as you expect
bash: COMP_WORDS: bad array subscript


If it doesn't, we can almost be sure that the problem is not with the
bash-completion script itself, since invoking compgen -F _longopt
should be the same as when you type less tabtab on the
commandline. (At the same time, it might put hunting down the exact
problem out of my league.)

You mentioned that it seems to freeze for all completion you tried,
have you tried the following:

unzip tabtab  (should just show a list of files ending in zip, ZIP jar, 
exe, pk3, etc...)
xv(a list of image files)
qiv   (a list of image files)
vim   (a list of files that are not image files or archives)

and

kill tabtab (should return a list of pids)

can you please try those and report back?

Yes, it all works as expected. I also tried userdel as root, and it
displays the names of existing users.



The trivial filename completion (less RE) also works. The same for
tar, which displays A  c  d  r  t  u  x.
So, everything seem right. The problem is that it froze the box then,
even if not now. I checked with top that there was nothing else
competing for ressources.

I suppose I'll wait to see whether the problem comes back...

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] bash_completion

2007-01-09 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Kent Fredric wrote:



Interesting to note, with Bash-3.2  2006-03-01 Bash-Completion,
you'll find if you check your latest /etc/skel/.bashrc which is
provided to new users now completely lacks the bash completion line,

Yes, the same goes for the stable version.

and upon merging of that 20060301 bash completion it notifies you that
hey, you dont need to even do that anymore cos we thought it was
kludgy and tells you just to do an

I just emerged the ~x86 version (bash-completion-20060301) and couldn't
find that in the emerge notifications.

eselect bashcomp enable base
but I cant vouch for that actually working :/


$ eselect bashcomp enable base
!!! Error: /usr/share/bash-completion/base doesn't exist



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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and Minefield?

2007-01-09 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 19:00, Bruno Lustosa wrote:


 If I could, I would leave nvidia forever, but I guess there are no
 better (or less worse) alternative, so I must stick to these crappy
 drivers.
 Also, this seems to have started after I had to replace nvidia-drivers
 with nvidia-legacy-drivers.


since the problems also appear with nv (but not as severe), I would not blame 
nvidia, but minefield.

You should got to the nvidia forum and ask there.

But first, what card would you use, if you don't choose nvidia?

AMD/ATI? With the latest cards not even 2D is possible anymore. And their 
drivers really suck.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Happy New Year!

2007-01-09 Thread Mick
Για σου Γιωργο,

Το στεγαστρο θα ειναι στη νοτια πλευρα του σπιτιου.  Σχεδον νοτια-νοτιοδυτικα 
για να ειμαστε ακριβεις.

Η ορολογια με μπερδεψε (οι αστρονομικες μου γνωσεις ειναι μαλλον ελλιπεις).

Ενας φιλος μου ειπε οτι το χειμωνα η γωνια ειναι 15.25 και το καλοκαιρι ειναι 
61.75.  Παρολα αυτα το σχεδιο που μου εδωσε με μπερδεψε . . . (see 
attachment).

Περιμενε να ερθουμε και θα κανουμε ενα σχεδιο.

Φιλακια,

ΥΓ. Πως ηταν η Αυστρια?


On Tuesday 09 January 2007 20:59, GEORGE ZERVAS wrote:
 Μιχάλη, Σούζη
 Καλή Χρονιά

 Ως προς το ερώτημά σας, σημασία έχει κατ' αρχάς τη προσανατολισμό έχει η
 πόρτα που θέλετε να βάλετε στέγαστρο. Αν π.χ. έχει Βορεινό τότε ο ήλιος την
 βλέπει καθόλου ώς ελάχιστα. Ανατολικό μόνο τις πρωινές ώρες. Δυτικό μόνο το
 απόγευμα. Νότιο τότε όλη την ημέρα καί έχει νόημα αυτό που ρωτάτε. Εκείνο
 που μας ενδιαφέρει είναι το πόσο ψιλά σηκώνεται ο ήλιος, δηλαδή η γωνία που
 σχηματίζουν οι ακτίνες του.
 Στην παρακάτω διεύθυνση ίσως βρείτε βοήθεια.
 http://www.nrel.gov/midc/solpos/spa.html

 Οι συντεταγμένες του σπιτιού σας είναι (από το oogle earth):
 N  51o 45' 18.49 ή 51.755,
 W   0o 40' 38.10 ή -0.677

 Δοκιμάστε διάφορες ημέρες, πχ. την ισημερία, 21 Μαρτίου, νομίζω την μέγιστη
 ημέρα, 21 Ιουνίου, ή την ελάχιστη 21 Δεκεμβρίου, ανά 60 min.

 Δεν κατάλαβα ακριβώς ποιά γωνία δίνει, με την κατακόρυφο ή την οριζόντια.
 Τα αγγλικά μου δεν με βοήθησαν πολύ με την ορολογία.

 Στέλνω και ένα σκαρίφημα με την τροχιά του ήλιου.
 Μάλλον ενδιαφέρει η γωνία όταν ο ήλιος βρίσκεται στην υψηλότερη θέση.
 Μελετήστε το και τα ξαναλέμε τηλεφωνικά.
 Φιλάκια,

 2006/12/30, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Roros,
 
  I have a little astronomical problem for you:
 
  Suzy  I are thinking of building a canopy/veranda at the back of the
  house to
  keep the wooden patio doors dry.  At the same time we want to let the low
  winter sun in, but keep the hot summer sun out.
 
  We have two dimensions to play with, the length of the canopy and its
  angle.
  I am taking the height at which it will be attached to the wall as a
  given,
  because it is more or less dictated by the height of the kitchen facia
  board
  above the patio at 2.55m (see attached photo).
 
  How long should the canopy be?
  What angle to the horizontal should it have to allow the winter sun in,
  but
  cast a shade in the summer?
 
  Have lovely New Year's Eve and give our love to your family.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Happy New Year!

2007-01-09 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 22:26, Mick wrote:
 Για σου Γιωργο,


Oops! Apologies for the spam, once more the Kmail 'Reply to' button worked its 
magic . . .

My Gmail replies are somehow sent directly to this list irrespective of who I 
am replying to.  I'll try harder to check the address more carefully in the 
future.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia and Minefield?

2007-01-09 Thread b.n.

Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:

since the problems also appear with nv (but not as severe), I would not blame 
nvidia, but minefield.


You should got to the nvidia forum and ask there.


It seems to me he's saying that with the nv drivers, X is unusable, 
regardless of Minefield being active or not.



But first, what card would you use, if you don't choose nvidia?

AMD/ATI? With the latest cards not even 2D is possible anymore. And their 
drivers really suck.


Argh. Bad news. Since i'm no gamer/heavy 3d user, I'll stick with my 
Radeon9200se, whose 3D works perfectly with the open source radeon 
drivers. :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] bash_completion

2007-01-09 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/10/07, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Kent Fredric wrote:


 Interesting to note, with Bash-3.2  2006-03-01 Bash-Completion,
 you'll find if you check your latest /etc/skel/.bashrc which is
 provided to new users now completely lacks the bash completion line,
Yes, the same goes for the stable version.
 and upon merging of that 20060301 bash completion it notifies you that
 hey, you dont need to even do that anymore cos we thought it was
 kludgy and tells you just to do an
I just emerged the ~x86 version (bash-completion-20060301) and couldn't
find that in the emerge notifications.
 eselect bashcomp enable base
 but I cant vouch for that actually working :/

$ eselect bashcomp enable base
!!! Error: /usr/share/bash-completion/base doesn't exist

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Merging app-shells/bash-completion-20060301-r2 to /

*
* Versions of bash-completion prior to 20060301-r1 required each user to
* explicitly source /etc/profile.d/bash-completion in ~/.bashrc.  This
* was kludgy and inconsistent with the completion modules which are
* enabled with eselect bashcomp.  Now any user can enable the base
* completions without editing their .bashrc by running
*
* eselect bashcomp enable base
*
* The system administrator can also be enable this globally with
*
* eselect bashcomp enable --global base
*
* Additional completion functions can also be enabled or
* disabled using eselect's bashcomp module.
*

app-shells/bash-completion-20060301-r2 merged.


so ah, .. yeah.





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Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2 persist in trying to come up even though not in any run level.

2007-01-09 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 19:56 +, Mick wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 January 2007 01:13, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 
  hmm, now I look at it, I have RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!bluetooth, and yet the
  bluetooth service is still started automatically (not in any runlevel).
 
  thoughts? thanks,
 
 Could it be that bluetooth is the wrong name for it?  Is it identified as 
 bluetooth in ifconfig?

bluetooth is the name of the init.d service at least, but it's not a
network interface, so ifconfig won't show anything there...

 I can't really compare with mine because bluetooth won't come up no matter 
 what.  :-(

that's what this list is for :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] dbus downgrade via revdep-rebuild

2007-01-09 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 22:01 -0800, Grant wrote:
 I upgraded to dbus-1.0.2, but a subsequent revdep-rebuild wants to
 downgrade dbus back to 0.62-r2.  How can I fix this?


try revdep-rebuild with -X

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-09 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 21:33 +0100, chrissie wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:31:17AM -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
  On 1/9/07, chrissie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I habe to Network Interface Cards installed in my machine: one VIA-Rhine-II
  and one 3Com 3c59x. Now the cards get randomized at every boot, sometimes 
  teh
  VIA is eth0, sometimes the 3Com. I want the 3Com to be eth0 at every time,
  how to fix this?
  
  Assuming you just upgraded to udev-103, run:
  
  # /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces
  
 balearen chrissie # /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces
 /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules exists, persistent interface names
 not saved.

if it already exists, try moving it to ~/ or somewhere safe, then run
write_net_rules again...  Hopefully you'll get both interfaces in there
then.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Extracting hashes from MSWindows SAM files

2007-01-09 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 17:35, norman wrote:
 perhaps this can be of use

 http://www.antsight.com/zsl/rainbowcrack/ it takes some time to build the
 tables and the files generated a big.

 cheers

 norman

 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,

 Do you know if Gentoo offers any tool(s) to extract the hash numbers from
 MSWindows SAM files?  I am thinking of the Linux equivalent of e.g.
 pwdump.exe

 I need the hashes to be able to run john:
 ==
 # john sam
 No password hashes loaded
 ==

 I've looked around but couldn't find anything.

Thank you Norman,

I'm afraid that after the tables are generated I will still need something 
like pwdump2 to extract the hashes from the sam file.  :-(

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[gentoo-user] gentoo cannot boot (Help!!!)

2007-01-09 Thread rami jiossy
Hi;
i am booting gentoo on my Napa machine but it freezes on copying read-write 
contents to tmpfs. 
any help?  i am using gentoo i686 livecd.
 
with minimal-x86 i am booting fine, but it keeps failing in installer and 
sometimes decides to shutdown for some reason.
 
Thanks

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[gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I just upgraded to gcc-4.1.1.  gcc-config -l shows that gcc-3.4.5 is still 
there:

# gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardened
 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie
 [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp
 [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp
 [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 *

When I try to remove gcc-3.4.5, it doesn't exist:

# emerge -C -p -v gcc-3.4.5

 These are the packages that would be unmerged:

--- Couldn't find 'gcc-3.4.5' to unmerge.

 No packages selected for removal by unmerge.

If it doesn't exist, why is it listed?  There's most likely a good explanation 
for this, but it's getting late and I must be too tired to understand it.  
Could you please care to explain?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Extracting hashes from MSWindows SAM files

2007-01-09 Thread Stuart Howard

You could try either the gentoo security list or irc channel. Failing
that try the securityfocus lists. Once you have linux program source
you can then install either with the source or make an ebuild.
Failing the above you could perhaps run pwdump under wine.
Not tried any of the above but seems a reasonable way to go.

stu

On 09/01/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tuesday 09 January 2007 17:35, norman wrote:
 perhaps this can be of use

 http://www.antsight.com/zsl/rainbowcrack/ it takes some time to build the
 tables and the files generated a big.

 cheers

 norman

 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,

 Do you know if Gentoo offers any tool(s) to extract the hash numbers from
 MSWindows SAM files?  I am thinking of the Linux equivalent of e.g.
 pwdump.exe

 I need the hashes to be able to run john:
 ==
 # john sam
 No password hashes loaded
 ==

 I've looked around but couldn't find anything.

Thank you Norman,

I'm afraid that after the tables are generated I will still need something
like pwdump2 to extract the hashes from the sam file.  :-(

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Dan
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:29:15 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

first of all, let me mention there's a short defense of top posting ...
at the bottom ;)

have you tried emerge --unmerge =gcc-3.4.5 ?  note that equal sign,
it's usually necessary to include that when specifying a version.

I also wanted to make sure you're following the gcc 3.x - 4.x  upgrade
guide online, because you'll need to, if you don't want a borked
system.  

best of luck, 

   --dan.

 Hi All,
 
 I just upgraded to gcc-4.1.1.  gcc-config -l shows that gcc-3.4.5 is
 still there:
 
 # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5
  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardened
  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie
  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp
  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp
  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 *
 
 When I try to remove gcc-3.4.5, it doesn't exist:
 
 # emerge -C -p -v gcc-3.4.5
 
  These are the packages that would be unmerged:
 
 --- Couldn't find 'gcc-3.4.5' to unmerge.
 
  No packages selected for removal by unmerge.
 
 If it doesn't exist, why is it listed?  There's most likely a good
 explanation for this, but it's getting late and I must be too tired
 to understand it. Could you please care to explain?

A defense of 'top posting' -- Caution, off topic!!!

Whether the reply text goes before or after the message to which it
replies depends entirely on personal preferance.  Some people choose to
run their email clients at full screen and/or on a large display, and
perhaps can see the top of the email and the bottom at the same time;
thus they can look over the original post and then read the response.
However, if one hasn't a big display or a fullscreen mail client (hey,
I have lots of windows up that I want to see/switch between!) having
responses at the end means you need to scroll way down to the bottom of
each message to see the responses.  Usually, if you're following a
thread closely, you'll already know the train of conversation, so all
the response-to quotations are just in the way.  Even if you don't have
to scroll the text at all, you still have to wade through the question
to get to the answer.  In time, as the response-to quotations get
longer and longer, much space is wasted by this section, and much
scrolltime is also wasted.  Therefore, I conclude that although I
respect the opinions of those who choose to bottom-post, and agree with
the reasons it is nice, I also insist that there are also good reasons
to top-post, and that I think the only real solution is for us all to
live with each others preferences when we can't honor our own.  

Friendily, 
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo cannot boot (Help!!!)

2007-01-09 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/10/07, rami jiossy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi;
i am booting gentoo on my Napa machine but it freezes on copying read-write
contents to tmpfs.
any help?  i am using gentoo i686 livecd.

with minimal-x86 i am booting fine, but it keeps failing in installer and
sometimes decides to shutdown for some reason.

Thanks



sounds like a lack of ram, or you've opted to make the CD removable,
which mounts all 700meg of CD into ram to do so irrc, so if your short
on ram and have chosen options which match that description that could
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Bruno Espinoza

Acording to Gentoo Documentation, Portage and Emerge never delete an
existing version of gcc. If you want to do so, simply unemerge it. But be
care. You have to modifiy certain files to make emerge compile with the new
version. See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml (GCC Updating
Guide) for details.

2007/1/9, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:29:15 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

first of all, let me mention there's a short defense of top posting ...
at the bottom ;)

have you tried emerge --unmerge =gcc-3.4.5 ?  note that equal sign,
it's usually necessary to include that when specifying a version.

I also wanted to make sure you're following the gcc 3.x - 4.x  upgrade
guide online, because you'll need to, if you don't want a borked
system.

best of luck,

  --dan.

 Hi All,

 I just upgraded to gcc-4.1.1.  gcc-config -l shows that gcc-3.4.5 is
 still there:

 # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5
  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardened
  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie
  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp
  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp
  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 *

 When I try to remove gcc-3.4.5, it doesn't exist:

 # emerge -C -p -v gcc-3.4.5

  These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 --- Couldn't find 'gcc-3.4.5' to unmerge.

  No packages selected for removal by unmerge.

 If it doesn't exist, why is it listed?  There's most likely a good
 explanation for this, but it's getting late and I must be too tired
 to understand it. Could you please care to explain?

A defense of 'top posting' -- Caution, off topic!!!

Whether the reply text goes before or after the message to which it
replies depends entirely on personal preferance.  Some people choose to
run their email clients at full screen and/or on a large display, and
perhaps can see the top of the email and the bottom at the same time;
thus they can look over the original post and then read the response.
However, if one hasn't a big display or a fullscreen mail client (hey,
I have lots of windows up that I want to see/switch between!) having
responses at the end means you need to scroll way down to the bottom of
each message to see the responses.  Usually, if you're following a
thread closely, you'll already know the train of conversation, so all
the response-to quotations are just in the way.  Even if you don't have
to scroll the text at all, you still have to wade through the question
to get to the answer.  In time, as the response-to quotations get
longer and longer, much space is wasted by this section, and much
scrolltime is also wasted.  Therefore, I conclude that although I
respect the opinions of those who choose to bottom-post, and agree with
the reasons it is nice, I also insist that there are also good reasons
to top-post, and that I think the only real solution is for us all to
live with each others preferences when we can't honor our own.

Friendily,
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[gentoo-user] Re: gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-01-10, Bruno Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Acording to Gentoo Documentation, Portage and Emerge never delete an
 existing version of gcc.

Is that true even for minor upgrades?  

It sure looks like it isn't (at least on my system).  I'm
pretty sure that 3.4 has been updated at lest 4-5 times in the
past year, and 4.1 has been updated at least a couple times.

Yet I still only have two versions installed: 3.4.6 and 4.1.1

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 17:46:21 -0600, Dan wrote:

 Whether the reply text goes before or after the message to which it
 replies depends entirely on personal preferance.

writer!
the
not
reader,
the
of
preference
personal
the
on
depends
it
but
Yes,

Top-post even Yoda wouldn't.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 00:29, Mick wrote:
 # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5
[SNIP]
 --- Couldn't find 'gcc-3.4.5' to unmerge.
[SNIP]
 If it doesn't exist, why is it listed?  There's most likely a good
 explanation for this, but it's getting late and I must be too tired to
 understand it. Could you please care to explain?

Maybe you have gcc-3.4.5-r1 ? `equery list -e gcc` will tell you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 17:46:21 -0600, Dan wrote:


Whether the reply text goes before or after the message to which it
replies depends entirely on personal preferance.


writer!
the
not
reader,
the
of
preference
personal
the
on
depends
it
but
Yes,

Top-post even Yoda wouldn't.




What is really evil is when some folks have top posted and other's 
bottom posted in the same message...


Hard
read
to
it
makes
it

That's why most mailing lists encourage folks to follow one *or* the 
other exclusively.


Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 00:46, Dan wrote:
 have you tried emerge --unmerge =gcc-3.4.5 ?  note that equal sign,
 it's usually necessary to include that when specifying a version.

The equal sign isn't necessary for unmerges.

 Usually, if you're following a thread closely, you'll already know the train
 of conversation, so all the response-to quotations are just in the way.

That's why you're supposed to snip everything that isn't relevant to your 
reply.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Luis Ortiz
Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I just upgraded to gcc-4.1.1.  gcc-config -l shows that gcc-3.4.5 is still 
 there:
 
 # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5
  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardened
  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopie
  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednopiessp
  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5-hardenednossp
  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 *
 
 When I try to remove gcc-3.4.5, it doesn't exist:
 
 # emerge -C -p -v gcc-3.4.5
 
 These are the packages that would be unmerged:
 
 --- Couldn't find 'gcc-3.4.5' to unmerge.
 
 No packages selected for removal by unmerge.
 
 If it doesn't exist, why is it listed?  There's most likely a good 
 explanation 
 for this, but it's getting late and I must be too tired to understand it.  
 Could you please care to explain?

As to why they weren't removed when you unmerged gcc-3.4.5, I've
no idea, but gcc-config -l will list whatever is in this directory:

/etc/env.d/gcc

Except the file 'config', which holds the default value.

Now, if you _really_ don't want to see them, remove them manually
_at your own risk_.

I doubt anything will break, but if I'm wrong someone will correct
me and you may get a better answer.

I hope I'm wrong :D

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc slots

2007-01-09 Thread Richard Fish

On 1/9/07, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

scrolltime is also wasted.  Therefore, I conclude that although I
respect the opinions of those who choose to bottom-post, and agree with
the reasons it is nice, I also insist that there are also good reasons
to top-post, and that I think the only real solution is for us all to
live with each others preferences when we can't honor our own.


The established community standard on this list is bottom posting.  I
can't recall anybody complaining about bottom-postingon any mail
list*ever*.  This is reason enough to adhere to the standard.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Several Gentoo-Problems

2007-01-09 Thread Richard Fish

On 1/9/07, chrissie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

balearen chrissie # /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules exists, persistent interface names
not saved.

 Then edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to assign the
 interface names you want if they turn up wrong.

balearen chrissie # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[...]
# PCI device 0x1106:0x3065 (via-rhine)
SUBSYSTEM==net, DRIVERS==?*, ATTRS{address}==00:0b:6a:c2:de:7f,
NAME=eth0

I think there is nothing wrong at the moment, via-rhine should be the eth0
interface. But it is the 3com at the moment (just wondering if it is
via-rhine after the next boot).


Both (er, all if you happen to have more than 2) interfaces will need
to be listed there for it to be effective.  The problem is that if
some device comes up without a rule and grabs eth0, then udev won't
take eth0 away from it when a device with a matching rule comes up.

So if one is missing, remove/rename the file as Iain suggested and
re-run the script.


Any hints, also about the gnome-settings-daemon problem?


Well the other old standby advice is to remove/rename ~/.gnome, so you
end up with the default gnome settings again, and see if that helps.

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[gentoo-user] ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-09 Thread Sean
I picked up one of these cards today. Normally I prefer nvidia based but 
I let price make my choice right now.


Anyway, have had nothing but problems trying to get this thing working.
Found many bugs listed against the ati-drivers, and not having much more 
success using the open source drivers also listed in the Gentoo ATI faq.


Before I go much further, or post for any help here, have any others 
here managed to get this card working on Gentoo, or should i just go try 
and get an Nvidia based card instead?


Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] bash_completion

2007-01-09 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:37:01PM +, Penguin Lover Jorge Almeida squawked:
 On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, Willie Wong wrote:
 It doesn't freeze, and it displays what you said. However, the first two
 output lines are:
 ash: compgen: warning: -F option may not work as you expect
 bash: COMP_WORDS: bad array subscript

Don't worry about those. The _longopts shell function is only intended
to be used by bash_completion, so some global variables were
undefined. 

 So, everything seem right. The problem is that it froze the box then,
 even if not now. I checked with top that there was nothing else
 competing for ressources.

Hum non reproducible? If it never occurs again, I suggest you not
worry about it. If it occurs randomly... hardware problem?

Good luck, 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?

2007-01-09 Thread Christian Marie
If you're looking for an ultra-portable, take a look at the Thinkpad
X60s. I've gotten everything to work on it, aside from the modem which I
haven't tested. It's also one of the best ultra-portables on the market.
In general, most hardware will work fine on Thinkpads. If in doubt:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 01:46:32PM +0100, qfpvajdy wrote:
 Hello,
 
 first thanks all for your great support on Gentoo Linux.
 I'm interessted to buy a laptop on which I would like to install Gentoo 
 GNU/Linux by using 100% all hardware functions of the laptop for which I have 
 bought.
 
 Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux?
 I don't want to have trouble with wireless, webcam or this kind of stuff.
 Is there maybe a laptop hardware constructor which supports 100% Linux on 
 laptop?
 
 Best regards,
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[gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Korthrun

Does anyone have any clue what put:
PANTS=ON
into my environment?

google is failing me here =/

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Cliff Wells

Korthrun wrote:

Does anyone have any clue what put:
PANTS=ON
into my environment?



I'd be more concerned if it was

ZIPPER=DOWN

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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Joshua Schmidlkofer

do other people use your server?  Is there any other clothing
references.  You can lookup Clothromancy in the Necronomicon.

On 1/9/07, Korthrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone have any clue what put:
PANTS=ON
into my environment?

google is failing me here =/

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/10/07, Korthrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone have any clue what put:
PANTS=ON
into my environment?

google is failing me here =/

Thanks

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no  clue, i dont seem to have PANTS=ON in my environment :P

/token lame humour
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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-09 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Sean wrote:
I picked up one of these cards today. Normally I prefer nvidia based but 
I let price make my choice right now.


Anyway, have had nothing but problems trying to get this thing working.
Found many bugs listed against the ati-drivers, and not having much more 
success using the open source drivers also listed in the Gentoo ATI faq.




Did you try the Xorg radeon driver? (think its part of 
xf86-video-ati). You want to unmerge ati-drivers if they have proved 
unstable (no surprise there...)


I'm very interested as I've been using a 9550 with HW accel enabled + 
Xorg (6.9) with the radeon driver in FreeBSD 6 without any problems at 
all. This encourages me to think they should work in Gentoo as 
well...(crosses fingers) as I'm in the process of building my mother a 
machine running Gentoo and have one of these (a 9200) lying around and 
am intending to use it



Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2007 January 09 Tuesday 09:00:21 PM -0700, Korthrun wrote:
 Does anyone have any clue what put:
 PANTS=ON
 into my environment?

Try:

$ find /etc/env.d -type f | xargs grep -n PANTS


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[gentoo-user] Re: ATI Radeon 9550

2007-01-09 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-01-10, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyway, have had nothing but problems trying to get this thing
 working. Found many bugs listed against the ati-drivers, and
 not having much more success using the open source drivers
 also listed in the Gentoo ATI faq.

The ati-drivers have always worked fine for me (until ATI
discontinued support for the 92xx boards).  The Xorg radeon
drivers have always worked flawlessly for 2D.

 Did you try the Xorg radeon driver? (think its part of 
 xf86-video-ati).

The radeon driver has always worked fine for 2D.  Xorg/radeon's
DRI has always been a little flakey for me with a 9250.  Some
versions worked mostly (only a few rendering glitches), some
versions seg-faulted anytime DRI was used.  For me, the
ati-drivers package has always proved a lot more stable for
DRI.

 You want to unmerge ati-drivers if they have proved unstable
 (no surprise there...)

 I'm very interested as I've been using a 9550 with HW accel
 enabled + Xorg (6.9) with the radeon driver in FreeBSD 6
 without any problems at all.

 This encourages me to think they should work in Gentoo as
 well...(crosses fingers) as I'm in the process of building my
 mother a machine running Gentoo and have one of these (a 9200)
 lying around and am intending to use it

Versions of ati-drivers newer than 8.28 won't support the 9200,
and 8.28 won't build on recent kernels without patches.  Most
other distros have patched versions of 8.28 available for
current kernels, but Gentoo doesn't.  I've got a fixed
ati-drivers-8.28 ebuild that will work with kernels up through
2.6.18.

How does one make an e-build available to the world?

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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 05:00, Korthrun wrote:
 Does anyone have any clue what put:
 PANTS=ON
 into my environment?

Does:

# grep -R PANTS=ON /etc/bash /etc/profile* /etc/env.d ~/.bash* ~/.profile

output anything (other than perhaps an No such file or directory error)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ wants to install xorg-server

2007-01-09 Thread Bruno Espinoza

GTK (www.gtk.org) is a graphic interface library. It was used to create The
GIMP and for writing GNOME. Obiously, this programs need a Windows System in
order to run. And thats why it need the X Window System (Xorg) in order to
compile succesfully. Have you ever see The GIMP in a terminal? I don't think
so.

2007/1/6, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


* Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:23:07 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

  By reading the virtualx.eclass file, I really wonder what this
  is necessary for. Why is an X server needed to build gtk ?

 Clearly it is not needed, otherwise it wouldn't be optional.

But what exactly does it bring us ? (besides lots of confusion ?)
Does it make any bit of sense pulling in an X server for building
packages like GTK ?

Would it do any harm removing this stuff from the ebuild ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] ESD vs ALSA

2007-01-09 Thread Bruno Espinoza

About ESD, well I read somewhere that is deprecated and if it continue here
is only for compatibility isues. ALSA support more sound cards and also is
besta managed by the laste kernel versions. Actually I tried to install alsa
in my machine. I recomend it, because ESD has some problems and now is dead.

In order to kill ESD daemon you can do this (As root):

killall esd


2007/1/8, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 06:08:32 -0800
Mark Knecht wrote:

 Sorry,
You're right about the flags. It's 'esd' vs. 'eds'. My mistake.
 Sorry.

As I said I do not use Gnome System Sounds. In the Gnome
 Preferences menu if I choose 'Sounds' and then the 'Sounds' tab I do
 not have 'Enable sound software mixing (ESD)' enabled.

 - Mark

Hi Mark,

Actually eds _is_ one of the USE flags used by gnome-control-center's
ebuild, with the other being alsa.

I've disabled ESD because sound effects don't generally interest me.
What does interest me is listening to CDs, web radio, etc.

Anyhow, I've got CDPlayer playing Alice's Restaurant and am enjoying
hearing it again (after numerous years).

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ wants to install xorg-server

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 06 January 2007 18:57, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 But what exactly does it bring us ? (besides lots of confusion ?)
 Does it make any bit of sense pulling in an X server for building
 packages like GTK ?

 Would it do any harm removing this stuff from the ebuild ?

It's needed if you have FEATURES=test.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137468
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140227
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157998

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ wants to install xorg-server

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 06:48, Bruno Espinoza wrote:
 Obiously, this programs need a Windows System in
 order to run.

Sure. On the client system. Which doesn't have to be on the same system as the 
gtk app is installed on.

 And thats why it need the X Window System (Xorg) in order to 
 compile succesfully.

Nope. It only needs it for the tests after successfull compilation.

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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2007 January 10 Wednesday 06:21:10 AM +0100, Bo V|GV|Grsted Andresen 
wrote:
 # grep -R PANTS=ON /etc/bash /etc/profile* /etc/env.d ~/.bash* ~/.profile

Or better yet,

# find /etc -type f -exec grep -nI --color PANTS {} \;

$ ls -d --color=no ~/.??* | xargs -i find {} -type f -exec grep -nI --color 
PANTS {} \;
OR
$ find ~ | grep \.\/\. | xargs grep -nI --color PANTS
OR
$ find ~ -mindepth 1 -wholename './.*' | xargs -r grep -nI --color PANTS

Yeah, maybe I'm just showing off by now. (-:


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Re: [gentoo-user] installprofile.xml

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 05 January 2007 21:18, James wrote:
 I have these files on several Gentoo systems:

 /root/clientconfiguration.xml
 /root/installprofile.xml

 Can they just be removed, or do they serve a
 useful/necessary/critical function?

Apparently they are from the Gentoo Linux Installer [1]. I guess they can be 
reused the next time you need to use the installer for a similar or identical 
system. They aren't used after the initial install.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge libexif fails

2007-01-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 08 January 2007 12:20, Jens Hornung wrote:
 # USE-doc emerge libexif
[SNIP]
 make[2]: *** No rule to make target `libexif-api.html.stamp', needed by
 `all-local'.  Stop.
[SNIP]

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160973

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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Korthrun

On 1/9/07, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On AD 2007 January 10 Wednesday 06:21:10 AM +0100, Bo V|GV|Grsted Andresen 
wrote:
 # grep -R PANTS=ON /etc/bash /etc/profile* /etc/env.d ~/.bash* ~/.profile

Or better yet,

# find /etc -type f -exec grep -nI --color PANTS {} \;

$ ls -d --color=no ~/.??* | xargs -i find {} -type f -exec grep -nI --color 
PANTS {} \;
OR
$ find ~ | grep \.\/\. | xargs grep -nI --color PANTS
OR
$ find ~ -mindepth 1 -wholename './.*' | xargs -r grep -nI --color PANTS

Yeah, maybe I'm just showing off by now. (-:


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Thanks for the responses.

None of the grepping found anything sadly, and no one else uses this
box. It's my home workstation.

I dropped out of Xorg and noticed that it wasn't in my env any more.
Installed fluxbox and fired it up and behold, PANTS is not set.

A quick google for enlightenment pants was quite..enlightening.

Thanks again for all the neat ideas.



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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 23:25 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote:

 Yeah, maybe I'm just showing off by now. (-:

not only do I have to move my eyes up and down and scroll to read top
and bottom postings, but now I have put my head on the left as well as
the right side for smiley faces going in the other direction!

what's the standard with smiley faces?! 5:)
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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 23:25 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote:

   
 Yeah, maybe I'm just showing off by now. (-:
 

 not only do I have to move my eyes up and down and scroll to read top
 and bottom postings, but now I have put my head on the left as well as
 the right side for smiley faces going in the other direction!

 what's the standard with smiley faces?! 5:)
   
If this wasn't a mailing list, I was going to send a picture of
something, pair of pants maybe, that was upside down.

I prefer top posting mostly.  I top post everywhere else but this
mailing list.  Anybody remember when I first came here?  :/

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Re: [gentoo-user] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2007 January 10 Wednesday 04:13:54 PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 23:25 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote:
 
  Yeah, maybe I'm just showing off by now. (-:
 
 not only do I have to move my eyes up and down and scroll to read top
 and bottom postings, but now I have put my head on the left as well as
 the right side for smiley faces going in the other direction!
 
 what's the standard with smiley faces?! 5:)

At the risk of appearing too willing to always defer to the RFC's here
is a quotation from the appropriate RFC,
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

- Use smileys to indicate tone of voice, but use them sparingly.
  :-) is an example of a smiley (Look sideways).  Don't assume
  that the inclusion of a smiley will make the recipient happy
  with what you say or wipe out an otherwise insulting comment.

Therefore, total lack of standards.  Ye haw!

. .
\_/


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RE: [gentoo-user] [ot now?] pants

2007-01-09 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Findlay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10 January 2007 07:24
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] pants
 
 At the risk of appearing too willing to always defer to the RFC's here
 is a quotation from the appropriate RFC,
 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html
 
 - Use smileys to indicate tone of voice, but use them sparingly.
   :-) is an example of a smiley (Look sideways).  Don't assume
   that the inclusion of a smiley will make the recipient happy
   with what you say or wipe out an otherwise insulting comment.
 
 Therefore, total lack of standards.  Ye haw!
 
 . .
 \_/
 
 
 Justin

The example given is :-)
Maybe (-: is for left handed people? 

I do use . a bit (shifty eyes) or . (excited/shocked) though which
aren't sideways :

David 7.40am is for playing on emails not working, silly Nelson

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RE: [gentoo-user] Core 2 duo: Building threaded program versions

2007-01-09 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
 -Original Message-
 From: Kent Fredric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 January 2007 18:48
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Core 2 duo: Building threaded program
 versions
 
 
 On 1/9/07, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 1/8/07, Nico Schümann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   thread-using way? It's not that nice to see the machine in idle at
   all^^ Maybe there's any hidden use flag I haven't heard 
 of or so :)
 
  Just turn on disk encryption with dm-crypt.  That will take care of
  the extra core is idle problem! ;-
 
  -Richard
 
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 and theres the rare chance you could be decompressing faster than you
 have hard drive access, but that might be a bit far fetched. I
 shouldn't post so early in the AM.
 
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Regarding pbzip2, by the way, I gave it a shot last night. Definately faster 
for the type of archive I was compressing (mp3s in a tar archive). If I 
remember rightly it was approx 1min30s vs 0min50s. Not quite twice as fast, but 
a definate improvement. I plan to do a bit of further testing/playing if anyone 
is interested in the results.

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