[gentoo-user] Re: Why did Synaptics touchpad stop working?

2024-09-09 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-09, Jack wrote: > On 9/8/24 10:20 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> This morning when I booted my Thinkpad T580, the Synaptics touchpad >> buttons didn't work at all, and the "pointer" function just barely >> worked: the response was slow and jerky

[gentoo-user] Why did Synaptics touchpad stop working?

2024-09-08 Thread Grant Edwards
This morning when I booted my Thinkpad T580, the Synaptics touchpad buttons didn't work at all, and the "pointer" function just barely worked: the response was slow and jerky with a noticeable delay. In order to get it working again, I had to enable some rmi4 stuff in my kernel config: < # CO

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Dale wrote: > At one point, I looked for a set of four sticks of the memory.  I > couldn't find any.  They only come in sets of two.  I read somewhere > that the mobo expects each pair to be matched. Yep, that's definitely how it was supposed to work. I fully expected my two (iden

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 07:09:43PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: >> […] >> I plugged them in alongside the recently purchased pair. Wouldn't >> work. Either pair of SIMMs worked fine by themselves, but the only way >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Dale wrote: > I ordered another set of memory sticks. I figure I will have to send > them both back which means no memory at all. I wasn't planning to go to > 128GBs yet but guess I am now. [...] Good luck. The last time I had one fail, I needed the machine for work and couldn't

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Dale wrote: > I forgot to ask, is there anything else that bad memory could affect?  > I'm doing the emerge -e world to make sure no programs were affected but > what about other stuff?  Could this affect hard drive data for example? Unfortunately, yes. I have had some failing RA

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-04, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 05:48:29AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> I wonder how much fun getting this memory replaced is going to be.  o_O  > > I once had a bad stick of Crucial Ballistix DDR3. I think it also started > with GCC segfaults. So I took a picture o

[gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Dale wrote: > I was trying to re-emerge some packages.  The ones I was working on > failed with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" or similar > being the common reason for failing. In my experience, that usually means failing RAM. I'd try running memtest86 for a day or

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > >> It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the >> --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the >> rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the > --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the > rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies that > a regular emerge doesn't spot. I don't see anything. It still

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > >> While I'm not familiar enough with those packages to know for >> certain, it sounds like they're probably *build* dependencies for >> something, [...] > > I don't think

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > It might be worth seeing what a full update of world, with the > --emptytree flag says (though without actually doing the > rebuild). Sometimes including that will notice inconsistencies that > a regular emerge doesn't spot. Thanks, I'll try that next time

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Matthew Brooks wrote: > While I'm not familiar enough with those packages to know for > certain, it sounds like they're probably *build* dependencies for > something, but not actual *runtime* dependencies, and so depclean > prunes them, and then whenever the package that needs them

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-09-03, Grant Edwards wrote: > For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then > 'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following: > > qttools > qtbase > qttranslations > xcb-util-cursor > > Afterwards, when I do 'emerg

[gentoo-user] emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-02 Thread Grant Edwards
For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then 'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following: qttools qtbase qttranslations xcb-util-cursor Afterwards, when I do 'emerge --depclean', it uninstalls them. Any ideas why? It's getting a little annoying. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-23, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> That's a separate graphics card, isn't it? I'm trying to use the >>> integrated graphics processor on my Ryzen 7900. > >> No, it's integrated into the Ryzen 5 3400G. > > Sorry, I didn't recognise the chip number. Is it a laptop chip rather > than a deskto

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-21, Wol wrote: > On 21/08/2024 14:49, Michael wrote: >>> That would involve me learning how to make and handle a modular kernel, >>> something I'd really rather not have to do. > >> Well, there's nothing to it really. Just configure your kernel with the >> drivers needed by your graphi

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-21, Michael wrote: > Alternatively, as Wol mentioned, you can set up your kernel graphics drivers > as modules (temporarily) and inspect dmesg to find out what firmware is being > loaded. Then use this information to add the firmware file names to be built > in the kernel and also

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-21, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Wol. > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 11:32:18 +0100, Wol wrote: >> On 20/08/2024 22:16, Peter Böhm wrote: >> > Hello Alan, > >> >> Anyhow, I'm up to the stage of configuring the kernel, and I'm stuck at >> >> the bit where I need to specify the firmware to

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-21, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Grant. > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 00:30:25 -0000, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-08-20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> > I've just treated myself to a new machine based on a Ryzen 9 7900 >> > processor. I cho

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I need firmware for an integrated graphics unit?

2024-08-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-08-20, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I've just treated myself to a new machine based on a Ryzen 9 7900 > processor. I chose the second newest generation so as not to get caught > out with not quite debugged systems like I did the last time round. > > Anyhow, I'm up to the stage of configuring

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> [...] I (for one) would appreciate some sort of notice when such an >> unbundling happens so that I don't waste time trying to track down >> why emerge suddenly wants to install a bunch of new packages. I >> can't really come up with a good mechanism for tha

[gentoo-user] Re: 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI >> paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are >> thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like >> that. Why does pip suddenly need to format (

[gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry?

2024-07-29 Thread Grant Edwards
This morning a routine emerge -auvND wanted to install 17 new packages for no apparent reason. Adding a 't' to the emerge options seems to point to pip, which now wants to install a whole shed-load of new packages — among them dev-python/poetry and a bunch of markdown and rich-text libraries. Oh g

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-28, Dale wrote: > Before I ran out of steam this morning, I tried the nouveau drivers > again.  I never can remember how to spell that. :/  I unmerged the > nvidia drivers to do this.  I used the in tree nouveau drivers tho.  For > some reason, even tho I removed the nvidia package and

[gentoo-user] Re: Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-28, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/28/24 6:31 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Friday, 28 June 2024 20:32:11 BST Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: >> >>> Remove the date.so it becomes >>> /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware then it applies to all >>> of them and not the specified

[gentoo-user] Re: Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-28, Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > Remove the date.so it becomes > /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware > then it applies to all of them and not the specified version. Yes, that's the clue I was missing. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Grant Edwards
Is there any graceful way to handle the elimination of unwanted linux-firmware blobs when doing an update? I believe I understand the process as outlined at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Linux_firmware: 1. install/upgrade sys-kernel/linux-firmware 2. edit /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linu

[gentoo-user] Re: Config file updates and using diff.

2024-06-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-27, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I just finished a large update on my main rig.  I have a lot of config > files to update and some have new entries that are needed but I don't > want to lose the ones I've already set.  Usually, I just pick the new > one and have a saved copy of the old conf

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: >> >>> Have you seen this before? >> No, because I've never used dracut. > > I just had a thought.  I have /usr on the root partition now.  Do I even > need a init thingy?  Same question as always: doe

[gentoo-user] Re: Arrow and edit keys?

2024-06-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-15, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 15 June 2024 19:20:26 BST Alan Grimes wrote: >> A number of my softwarez requires the use of the arrow keys and can't >> use the numpad in edit mode to work around it. So who do I need to kill >> to get arrow keys to work in x11 again? > > I don't under

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-05, Wols Lists wrote: > On 05/06/2024 13:12, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> Which I think is fine, if people want that, but not everyone does, so >> delaying the update altogether might be preferable to those people. > > Ie people like me who don't give a monkeys about python, and consider it

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-05, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 20:05, Grant Edwards wrote: >> What I found misleading (and tripped over) was the implication that >> the three step migration process outlined in the news item had a >> reasonable likelyhood of working for a larg

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-05, byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > 2) Was anything really 'broken'? Most certainly no, going by the above > definition and the fact that the news item provided for a very clear > pathway to maintain compatibility that was essentially a two-line solution. I think that build

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >>> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >>> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more det

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >>> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation > failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't > resolve the dependencies. I had plenty of both. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-04, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some packages to > be built twice or even three times, but it JUST WORKED (tm), at least > here. It only required creati

[gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-01, Wol wrote: > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, Hey! I resemble that remark. [Hmm. That's not as funny in print.]

[gentoo-user] Re: Getting started with a web server

2024-06-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-01, George Kettleborough wrote: > If you only want to build a static site (ie. just HTML, CSS, JS etc; no > server-side scripting) then you don't need to install and configure > something like Apache to test it out. You could just open the files you're > working on straight from the di

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-28, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> >>>> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names >>>> for the machine I'm on at the moment: >>>> >&g

[gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

2024-05-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > The unit showed up today and was a breeze to set up and get running > at a basic level. The device requires an app on my phone. That sets of an alarm for me. > The app is available for Android and Apple but not available for the > Amazon Fire tablet. Good lu

[gentoo-user] Re: Off Topic - UPnP servers

2024-05-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-24, Mark Knecht wrote: > I'm a Plex user for video and have also ripped my CD > collection. Plex plays audio fine to TVs that have a Plex app but > apparently sometimes doesn't work well (as of yet untested by me) to > network streaming players. I never got the Plex app for Roku to wo

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names >> for the machine I'm on at the moment: >> >> --/etc/udev/rules.d/70-my-persistent-net.rules--- >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTR{address}=="2c:f0:5d:6f:10:a

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> If you want consisent network device names (even when you change >> hardware), you need to either >> >> 1. create udev rules that assign device names based on MAC addresses. >> >> 2. use a network configuration subsystem that assigns device names >> and config

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > So they both show up.  When I try to start the network, it says: > > ERROR: Interface enp3s0 does not exist. Are you sure the network interface name hasn't changed? What does "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr" show? After booting up, what does "dmesg | grep enp" show? > E

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-20, Dale wrote: A 3.0 card is supposed to work fine in a 2.0 slot. > You, or anyone, have any idea why that card would kill my network?  > I suspect the card itself is fine.  It did see the drive.  I just > need the internet to work since it may be used in a NAS rig. Is it causing th

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I never let >> it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do every

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:37:22 BST Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > >> > The Clipboard may be stored in RAM or cache of any applications >> > which use this method. >> >> AFAICT, the clipboar

[gentoo-user] Re: Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > But in the doc on wiki.gentoo.org, I can't find any mention of inbuilt > graphics; all references are to graphics _cards_. Does Gentoo support > my intended processor's graphics, Technically, no. Gentoo doesn't. However, the Linux kernel, Xorg, and Mesa d

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > As far as I know the Primary selection is not stored anywhere - > other than within the application's memory space where the range of > characters have been selected. The xserver will call for this when > you middle click to paste it on another application's window

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Dale wrote: >> Or just select some empty space in an application, to overwrite your >> previous >> selection. > > Well, since it works, something is acting as a clipboard. It's part of the X server. Same for the two selections. > It doesn't seem to be xclip in my case.  Anyway

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Dale wrote: > I thought that too.  I highlighted some text in a Konsole and then > looked in the KDE clipboard, what I highlighted was not there.  > > It wasn't there after I pasted it either.  It goes to a clipboard > somewhere but it appears it only remembers one entry then forge

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesyste

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this > thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do > better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  > This is what the partition table looks like for GPT, old BIO

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using > a GPT disk label, Grub requi

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-27, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like >> to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my >> drives, regardless of size. > > GPT is the partition table stru

[gentoo-user] Re: NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. >> Even if the CPU costs a tiny bit more, it will give you a free empty >> 16x PCIe slot at whatever speed the CPU supports (v5 in this case - >> which is as good as you can get right now

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems > on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from > Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you > install or kernel drivers? All in-tree kernel drivers for integrated

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, >> then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. > > I was not aware of this package. Excatly what coul

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" >> kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" >> kernel versions from kernel.org are availabl

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Michael wrote: >> > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a >> > risk that my aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with >> > newer and newer kernels, should I put something like >> > >> >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.7.0 >> > >> > into fi

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Arve, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. > > I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/"; > kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm",

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dale wrote: > I've never understood what is supported long term either.  I use > gentoo-sources.  I've never figured out just how to pick a kernel that > is supposed to be stable for the larger version.  In other words, only > security and bug fixes, no new hardware.  Right now, 6.

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >> > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >> > upstream releases. >> >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the avail

[gentoo-user] Re: How to synchronise between 2 locations

2024-03-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-27, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 11:59 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: >> I am looking for a way to synchronise a filesystem between 2 >> servers. Changes can occur on both sides which means I need to >> have it synchronise in both directions. > > How synchronized? For instanc

[gentoo-user] Re: New profiles 23.0

2024-03-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-26, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:21:23PM +, Michael wrote >> On Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:21:32 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: >> > I assume my system is already "merged-usr". Current profile... >> > >> > [12] default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib (exp) * >> > [...]

[gentoo-user] Re: New profiles 23.0

2024-03-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-26, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'm AMD64 stable OpenRC. I got tired of dicking around resizing > partitions years ago, so I have all data and binaries in one honking > big partition. Also separate partitions for UEFI and swap. I assume > my system is already "merged-usr". Current profil

[gentoo-user] Re: Stage-3 and profile 23.x

2024-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-25, Michael wrote: > On Monday, 25 March 2024 21:48:24 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Monday, 25 March 2024 16:52:19 GMT Michael wrote: >> >>> The default OpenRC installation now assumes a merged-usr fs structure - >>> therefore make sure you select the appropriate profile in a new >>>

[gentoo-user] Re: Terminal emulator to replace Konsole

2024-03-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-23, Mickaël Bucas wrote: > I think it's not a terminal emulator feature, but rather a shell > feature. > > Some terminal programs are designed to interact with the mouse, but > bash command line, based on readline, doesn't react to mouse clicks. Agreed. > I've tried Midnight Commande

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-sources 5.15.151 breaks amdgpu support?

2024-03-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-11, Grant Edwards wrote: > I upgraded gentoo-sources from 5.15.147 to 5.15.151 this morning and > amdgpu support is now borked on my system with an AMD Ryzen 5 3400G > with Radeon Vega Graphics. > > Everything worked fine with 5.15.147, but when 5.15.151 (built with >

[gentoo-user] gentoo-sources 5.15.151 breaks amdgpu support?

2024-03-11 Thread Grant Edwards
I upgraded gentoo-sources from 5.15.147 to 5.15.151 this morning and amdgpu support is now borked on my system with an AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics. Everything worked fine with 5.15.147, but when 5.15.151 (built with same .config via "make oldconfig") boots there's always a kernel o

[gentoo-user] Re: is a global use flag necessary for python?

2024-03-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-09, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 07:55:13PM +0100, n952162 wrote >> I just synced my system after a long delay, > > That's your problem right there. Yep, to quote Olivia Rodrigo... Bad idea, right? >> Is there a way to do it globally? > > First of all python target

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-10, Michael wrote: > Perhaps I'm picking up on semantics, but shouldn't this sentence: > > "... The gap between the DOS disklabel and the first partition" > > read: > > "The gap between the MBR and the first partition"? Yes, thanks -- MBR is more accurate, I've changed that sentence.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux > distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. > > [...] > > Is there an easier way to do this? After some additional studying of UEFI and boot managers

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

2024-03-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-06, Walter Dnes wrote: > I've got a UEFI system. According to the news item... > >> Re-runing grub-install both with and without the --removable option >> should ensure a working GRUB installation. > > I tried that... > > [i3][root][~] grub-install I believe you have to run grub-i

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, Wol wrote: > On 26/02/2024 20:51, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like >> that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. >> > And then, if USB isn't the default boot media, he might as well sort

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: > I agree, using the custom.cfg file would not work if needing to boot > different kernels of the same OS and those kernels were being updated. The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: > On 2/26/24 04:57, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: >> You could also write a script that keeps all the distros up to date >> from within whichever one you're currently booted by mounting >> subvolumes to /mnt or wherever, chrooting in and running the update. > > To av

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > The only other idea I had was to install to a different > disk and then use something like Clonezilla to move it to the partition > you want it in on your system. > > While I suspect you were being sarcastic I do not think any solution > that involves a 'pocke

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:59 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> >> The simple solution is to give up on multi-booting a dozen different >> distros on a single disk and buy a pocketful of USB 3 thumb drives. >> > > Given performa

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Wols Lists wrote: > On 23/02/2024 00:28, Grant Edwards wrote: >> In my experience, 's bootloader does not boot other >> installations by calling other bootloaders. It does so by rummaging >> through all of the other partitions looking for kernel images,

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Michael wrote: > The problem starts if/when kernel images are overwritten by > successive Linux OS distros. This is likely when derivatives of the > same main distros e.g. Ubuntu all create a directory called > /EFI/ubuntu/ in the ESP and drop their kernels & initrd images in > t

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > I guess most (all) of the distro's you are talking about use GRUB (or > at least they allow to do it). Yes, I belive that they are all now using Grub2. > If that's true, I'm pretty sure you can happily let them overwrite > the GRUB in MBR as many times

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 21:45, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any >> better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files >> in the ESP partiton and multiple distro&#

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 19:17, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> However, the choice to install bootloaders in partitions instead of >> the MBR has been removed from most (all?) of the common installers. >> This forces me to jump through hoops when installi

[gentoo-user] How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Grant Edwards
For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. There is also a single swap partition (used by all of the different Linux installations). There is also a small partition devoted only to the "master" instance of Grub tha

[gentoo-user] Re: Re-run grub-install to update installed boot code!

2024-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-17, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> Today's routine update says: >> >> Re-run grub-install to update installed boot code! >> >> Is "sudo grub-install" really all I have to do? [...] >> >> Or do I have to run grub-in

[gentoo-user] Re-run grub-install to update installed boot code!

2024-02-16 Thread Grant Edwards
Today's routine update says: Re-run grub-install to update installed boot code! Is "sudo grub-install" really all I have to do? Grub knows where/how everthing was originally installed and will do the right thing without any options? Or do I have to run grub-install with all the same options

[gentoo-user] 147 .pem files in /etc/ need updating

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
After a routine update this morning (last one was probably 3 days ago), I see that 147 files in /etc need updating. When I run etc-update, they're all ".pem" CA files (or links?). It looks like it was all of the .pem files under /etc/ssl/certs. I did a -5, and all seems well. It's a bit alarming

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-06, J. Roeleveld wrote: > If you want to use snapshots, the filesystem will need to support it. (either > LVM or ZFS). If you only want to create snapshots on the backupserver, I > actually don't see much benefit over using rsync. Upthread I've been told that ZFS snapshots 1. Req

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-06, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 4:38:11 PM CET Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-02-05, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote:

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-05, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote: >> > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. >> > Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux? >> >> The main barrier

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-05, Wols Lists wrote: > On 04/02/2024 15:48, Grant Edwards wrote: >> OK I see. That's a bit different than what I'm doing. I'm backing up >> a specific set of directory trees from a couple different >> filesystems. There are large portions of the &q

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-04, Wols Lists wrote: > On 04/02/2024 06:24, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I don't understand, are you saying that somehow your backup doesn't >> contain a copy of every file? >> > YES! Let's make it clear though, we're talking about EVERY

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-03, Wol wrote: > On 03/02/2024 16:02, Grant Edwards wrote: >> rsnapshot is an application that uses rsync to do >> hourly/daily/weekly/monthly (user-configurable) backups of selected >> directory trees. It's done using rsync to create snapshots. They are

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-03, Michael wrote: >> If you'll forgive the analogy, we'll say the the functionality of >> rsync (as used by rsnapshot) is built-in to ZFS. > > Broadly and rather loosely yes, by virtue of the COW and snapshot fs > architecture and the btrfs/zfs send-receive commands. > >> Is there an

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-02, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 4:39 PM Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> >> I googled for ZFS backup applications, but didn't find anything that >> seemed to be widespread and "supported" the way that rsnapshot is. > > I'

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: > Honestly, at this point I would not run any storage I cared about on > anything but zfs. There are just so many benefits. > > [...] > > In any case, these COW filesystems, much like git, store data in a > way that makes it very efficient to diff two snapshots

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, Thelma wrote: > On 1/31/24 08:50, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> Honestly, at this point I would not run any storage I cared about on >>> anything but zfs. There are just so many benefits. >> >> I&

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