[gentoo-user] kde-4.1 SLOT in kdesvn-portage

2008-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi,

I use the kdesvn-portage overlay (the portage one, not the paludis-only one). 
To still stay this side of sanity, I emerged the 4.1.1 SLOT.

I updated layman -S today only to find that the entire kde-4.1 SLOT has been 
removed. Can someone confirm? Am I actually dreaming? Anyone know why a 
perfectly reasonable set of ebuilds were removed?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4.1 SLOT in kdesvn-portage

2008-09-21 Thread Mike
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I use the kdesvn-portage overlay (the portage one, not the paludis-only one). 
 To still stay this side of sanity, I emerged the 4.1.1 SLOT.
 
 I updated layman -S today only to find that the entire kde-4.1 SLOT has been 
 removed. Can someone confirm? Am I actually dreaming? Anyone know why a 
 perfectly reasonable set of ebuilds were removed?
 

I have a similar problem when I 'emerge --sync' it deletes my overlays I
added with layman.

Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] kde problem after installing xfce

2007-06-02 Thread Alex Prinsier
Somehow this conflict went away after unmerging kdesvn... No clue what
it has to do with it :) If anyone knows what could be the cause of this,
please let me know :)

Alex

Alex Prinsier wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I just emerged xfce4, and when I now log in again under kde, some things
 don't work anymore.
 
 The home folder icon has disappeared from my bottom panel. When I click
 that icon on my desktop, kdesvn launches up giving an error (why does
 kdesvn launch up?).
 
 Also the start menu has changed. The icons are gone next to 'Internet',
 'Office' etc, except for 'Edutainment' and 'Settings' which now have a
 standard blue folder icon.
 
 My terminal icon has disappeared too from another panel. It seams it has
 been replaced by the standard terminal program from xfce. 'konsole' from
 kde is still installed though, but the icons are gone and it's gone from
 the start menu too.
 
 Anyone knows why xfce and kde seem to conflict?
 
 Alex

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Re: [gentoo-user] failed to emerge -- clean

2006-10-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 22 October 2006 14:39, Turi Tropea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] failed to emerge -- clean':
 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto:
  Rescue this file from the Gentoo portage tree CVS attic (It should be
  under the eclass directory) and place it in the tree or an overlay.
  *BUT ONLY LONG ENOUGH TO UNINSTALL UNSERMAKE*.  Having eclasses from
  out of tree can cause untold problems.

 excuse me but i don't understand very well what i do

this file in my message refers to the file kdesvn-repo.eclass which was 
referenced in your error message and quoted in my reply.

At that point your understanding is correct.  You will take 
kdesvn-repo.eclass from CVS, put it in your /usr/portage/eclass directory, 
remove unsermake, and then 
*REMOVE* /usr/portage/eclass/kdesvn-repo.eclass.  (As I said before, 
having an eclass from out of the main tree can cause all kinds of 
breakage.)

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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-14 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 14 September 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 19:16:08 schrieb Mariusz Przygodzki:
  But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...

 Why is it unfortunate?

 because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing - watch it devour
 config files and be insulted by the troll-brigade.

 Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.

 And as kdesvn-portage shows - it was unneeded. 'We need the features of
 paludis' was shown as bs. Just another little trick by the paludis-group to
 convert people.

 Luckily that failed. You don't need it.

Fair enough. Thank you very much for pointing it.
And I really didn't know about unofficial kdesvn-portage until now.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
 
   You know, there's an overlay...

 But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...

no it does not.
kdesvn-portage has ebuilds for:
4.1.1
4.1.65
svn

and works with paludis, pkgcore and portage.




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-14 Thread Constantine D. Kardaris
Not this one

layman -a kdesvn-portage

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Mariusz Przygodzki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
  You know, there's an overlay...

 But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...





Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4.1 SLOT in kdesvn-portage

2008-09-21 Thread Mike
Mike wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Hi,

 I use the kdesvn-portage overlay (the portage one, not the paludis-only 
 one). 
 To still stay this side of sanity, I emerged the 4.1.1 SLOT.

 I updated layman -S today only to find that the entire kde-4.1 SLOT has been 
 removed. Can someone confirm? Am I actually dreaming? Anyone know why a 
 perfectly reasonable set of ebuilds were removed?

 
 I have a similar problem when I 'emerge --sync' it deletes my overlays I
 added with layman.
 
 Mike

My problem was I symlinked /usr/local to /usr so layman was installing
the overlays to /usr/portage instead of /usr/local/portage and they were
getting deleted on 'emerge --sync'. I changed the layman installation
directory in /etc/layman/layman.cfg and solved that problem.

Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmerge kde 4.1?

2008-09-22 Thread Roy Wright
Dale wrote:
 Since KDE 4 is still masked, I would think you could remove the keyword
 and unmask files then do a --depclean.  I would also do a -p with that
 just in case.
 
 It's just a thought.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 

Ah, that triggered a memory and with a little checking found a problem.
 When kde-portage overlay was used, I had added a symlink:

package.unmask # ls -l
total 8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 77 2008-08-31 18:00 kdesvn -
/usr/portage/local/layman/kdesvn-portage/Documentation/portage/package.unmask

which is no longer available in kde-testing overlay:

package.unmask # ls /usr/portage/local/layman/kde-testing/Documentation/
kde-guide.xml  package.keywords  README  TODO

Same for package.keywords

Off to try to discover what it's all been changed to...

Thank you,
Roy



[gentoo-user] kde problem after installing xfce

2007-06-01 Thread Alex Prinsier
Hello all,

I just emerged xfce4, and when I now log in again under kde, some things
don't work anymore.

The home folder icon has disappeared from my bottom panel. When I click
that icon on my desktop, kdesvn launches up giving an error (why does
kdesvn launch up?).

Also the start menu has changed. The icons are gone next to 'Internet',
'Office' etc, except for 'Edutainment' and 'Settings' which now have a
standard blue folder icon.

My terminal icon has disappeared too from another panel. It seams it has
been replaced by the standard terminal program from xfce. 'konsole' from
kde is still installed though, but the icons are gone and it's gone from
the start menu too.

Anyone knows why xfce and kde seem to conflict?

Alex
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...

2008-08-30 Thread Thomas Kahle

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| Tom
| Thanks for the update. Slightly OT and planning ahead slightly, any
| ideas how easy it will be to upgrade from the kdesvn-portage overlay to
| the official ebuilds?

If everything goes as planned, as easy as emerge -u :)

|
| Cheers,
| Dave.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 19:16:08 schrieb Mariusz Przygodzki:
  But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...

 Why is it unfortunate?

because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing - watch it devour 
config files and be insulted by the troll-brigade.

Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.

And as kdesvn-portage shows - it was unneeded. 'We need the features of 
paludis' was shown as bs. Just another little trick by the paludis-group to 
convert people.

Luckily that failed. You don't need it.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 14 September 2008, David Leverton wrote:
 On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing

 Not bloated.

I am sorry: 
extremly bloated.


  watch it devour config files

 Lies.

oh really? what happens when you forget the 'portage' useflag? Hm?


  and be insulted by the troll-brigade.

 The only people who get insulted are those who repeatedly and deliberately
 spread vicious lies, FUD and personal attacks.

oh really? There are enough examples of troll behaviour. Starting with Ciaranm 
himself. SPB and rbrown are good examples too.


  Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.

 It's not paludis-only, it will work with any package manager whose
 developers care enough to support the useful features of the kdebuild-1
 EAPI.

and that was an official api? Yes? No?

Was it needed? No - proven by kdesvn-portage


  And as kdesvn-portage shows - it was unneeded.

 Unneeded is a funny word.  You don't need ebuilds at all, but that
 doesn't mean they're not useful.

unneeded is the correct choice of words. That 'special feature that only 
paludis - and unoffical packet manager  developed by a dev team which has a 
very high 'forcefully retired' content - has' was not needed - as shown by 
kdesvn-portage.

  Just another little trick by the paludis-group

 The KDE overlay isn't produced by the paludis-group.

no, it was just made by vivid paludis fans. Hey, lets make an overlay a lot of 
user want - and make it paludis only. That way we can push paludis!

 No, to provide ebuilds that make use of useful features that benefit both
 users and developers.

which one? Which features 'benefit both users and developers' and are sooo 
important that the kde overlay had to be paludis only?

Name them please.

Oh, does paludis support and equivalent to 'keep-going' or '--ignore-failures' 
or are people who wants this extremly usefull features still attacked and 
insulted?



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1 ebuild

2008-08-01 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 1. August 2008 09:27:27 schrieb Rev. Ferris:

 I want to install the new kde 4, but I see any 4.1 version ebuild.
 I understood that the the series should be unmasked, but I don't know if
 if installation needs something special (like the new use kde-4).
 Anyone who installed/want to install it can help me to install too?

KDE 4.1 ebuilds are not yet in the official portage tree. You can get them 
from the kdesvn-portage overlay. It also contains the correct files for 
unmasking.

HTH...

Dirk



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1...

2008-08-29 Thread Dave Oxley

Thomas Kahle wrote:

Hi,
as your post turned into the usual kde 4 is good/bad flamewar I will
just try to answer the question:

The people working on the overlay plan to bringt kde 4.1.1(not 4.1.0)
into the tree. This will be released on next week and enter the tree
hopefully shortly after that.

Also this page
http://skrypuch.com/kde4/
and bug http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234773
might give you an idea of the progress

have fun
Tom
Thanks for the update. Slightly OT and planning ahead slightly, any 
ideas how easy it will be to upgrade from the kdesvn-portage overlay to 
the official ebuilds?


Cheers,
Dave.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

2008-10-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay
 switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I
 understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be in
 the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking KDE4 in
 portage. Is it so?

I thought there was a KDE4 version of k3b on the kdesvn-portage
overlay. I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure it is there. According
to the k3b blog initial porting was done in May.

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] failed to emerge -- clean

2006-10-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 22 October 2006 13:33, Turi Tropea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] failed to emerge -- clean':
 !!! kdesvn-repo.eclass could not be found by inherit()

Rescue this file from the Gentoo portage tree CVS attic (It should be  
under the eclass directory) and place it in the tree or an overlay.  
*BUT ONLY LONG ENOUGH TO UNINSTALL UNSERMAKE*.  Having eclasses from out 
of tree can cause untold problems.

I'm not sure exactly where web access to the CVS repo. is, but I'm sure 
some kind soul on this list does.

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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4.1 SLOT in kdesvn-portage

2008-09-21 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 21 September 2008 09:26:15 pm Mike wrote:
 Mike wrote:
  Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I use the kdesvn-portage overlay (the portage one, not the paludis-only
  one). To still stay this side of sanity, I emerged the 4.1.1 SLOT.
 
  I updated layman -S today only to find that the entire kde-4.1 SLOT has
  been removed. Can someone confirm? Am I actually dreaming? Anyone know
  why a perfectly reasonable set of ebuilds were removed?
 
  I have a similar problem when I 'emerge --sync' it deletes my overlays I
  added with layman.
 
  Mike

 My problem was I symlinked /usr/local to /usr so layman was installing
 the overlays to /usr/portage instead of /usr/local/portage and they were
 getting deleted on 'emerge --sync'. I changed the layman installation
 directory in /etc/layman/layman.cfg and solved that problem.

 Mike

Hmmm maybe you guys would know I've gone the same route as you. 
However, I've emerge 4.1.65. It compiles fine, installs, no problems. 
However... I normally start my gentoobox as rc 3. When I run startx, kde 
loads and looks quite wonderful, but just as the desktop grabs the mouse... 
it locks up. The lockup is so complete, I can't switch to a console and have 
to reboot...

Does anyone have a suggestion? Kde 4,0 actually worked ok. kde4.05 and greater 
have been a wash for me. No luck what so ever. Total and complete lockup.

Things I've done: tried 4.1, tried 4.1.66, made sure evdev is loaded... the 
logs show that X dies immediately... no output... just bang...

Now running 3.5.10 with no problems. But I'd really, really like to get a 
current kde up and running.


Jerry





[gentoo-user] failed to emerge -- clean

2006-10-22 Thread Turi Tropea
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darkbox turitropea # emerge --clean

 kde-base/unsermake
selected: 7-r2
   protected: 0.3.0.4254.0
 omitted: none

 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

 Waiting 5 seconds before starting...
 (Control-C to abort)...
 Unmerging in: 5 4 3 2 1
 Unmerging kde-base/unsermake-7-r2...
No package files given... Grabbing a set.

!!! ERROR: kde-base/unsermake-7-r2 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1454:   Called source
'/var/db/pkg/kde-base/unsermake-7-r2/unsermake-7-r2.ebuild'
  unsermake-7-r2.ebuild, line 6:   Called inherit 'python' 'kdesvn-repo'
  ebuild.sh, line 1189:   Called die

!!! kdesvn-repo.eclass could not be found by inherit()
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.

!!! FAILED prerm: 1

any suggestions?

regards
TuriTropea

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-14 Thread David Leverton
On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:37:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Sunday 14 September 2008, David Leverton wrote:
  On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing
 
  Not bloated.

 I am sorry:
 extremly bloated.

I see you're still as good at logic as ever.

   watch it devour config files
 
  Lies.

 oh really? what happens when you forget the 'portage' useflag? Hm?

It installs without support for reading Portage configuration files, in the 
same way that almost everything else in the tree doesn't support Portage 
configuration files.  You surely wouldn't say that any of those devour 
config files (at least not for that reason), so why do you say it about 
Paludis?

   and be insulted by the troll-brigade.
 
  The only people who get insulted are those who repeatedly and
  deliberately spread vicious lies, FUD and personal attacks.

 oh really? There are enough examples of troll behaviour. Starting with
 Ciaranm himself. SPB and rbrown are good examples too.

Again, lies and personal attacks.

   Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.
 
  It's not paludis-only, it will work with any package manager whose
  developers care enough to support the useful features of the kdebuild-1
  EAPI.

 and that was an official api? Yes? No?

Irrelevant.

 Was it needed? No - proven by kdesvn-portage

I didn't say it was needed.  I said it was useful enough that the genkdesvn 
team decided that, in their opinion, the benefits outweighed the drawbacks.  
Other people obviously had different priorities, and so they produced 
something that suited their needs better.

   And as kdesvn-portage shows - it was unneeded.
 
  Unneeded is a funny word.  You don't need ebuilds at all, but that
  doesn't mean they're not useful.

 unneeded is the correct choice of words.

It is, in the sense that it's not false, but the inferences that you draw from 
it are spectacularly wrong.

 That 'special feature that only paludis - and unoffical packet manager
 developed by a dev team which has a very high 'forcefully retired' content

Personal attacks etc.  Just because Gentoo was forced to choose between 
retiring some developers and losing a sponsor doesn't mean that anything 
those developers ever worked on is evil.

 was not needed - as shown by kdesvn-portage.

You consistently demonstrate a complete failure to comprehend anything in my 
post.

   Just another little trick by the paludis-group
 
  The KDE overlay isn't produced by the paludis-group.

 no, it was just made by vivid paludis fans. Hey, lets make an overlay a lot
 of user want - and make it paludis only. That way we can push paludis!

No, That way we can use useful features that have been supported in Paludis 
for months if not years, instead of having to work around Portage's 
limitations!

 which one? Which features 'benefit both users and developers' and are sooo
 important that the kde overlay had to be paludis only?

 Name them please.

USE deps are the main one.  Yes, Portage supports them now, but it didn't at 
the time, and no-one expected that it would within a reasonable time period.  
Suggested deps are another nice one.  You can read the details of the rest in 
PMS.

 Oh, does paludis support and equivalent to 'keep-going' or
 '--ignore-failures'

Read the documentation.

 or are people who wants this extremly usefull features still attacked and
 insulted? 

No-one has been attacked and insulted for wanting extremely useful features.



Re: [gentoo-user] trying KDE (cvs repositories)

2006-02-14 Thread Iain Buchanan

 2006/2/14, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all KDE lovers,
 
 Is there a way to use some sort of graphical CVS plugin for
 konqueror?
 Or any program other than tkcvs?
 

On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 09:07 +0100, jose javier parra sanchez wrote:
 cervisia for cvs
 kdesvn for subversion.

Thanks.  cervisia looks good - I'll have to wait til I get to work to
try it out.  Is there any way of integrating it to kde, so that cvs
related files have different colours, or emblems, or something?

There is a cool (M$) explorer extension for windows called Tortoise CVS,
which plays with icon colours, emblems, and lets you do right click- cvs
commands from explorer.

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-14 Thread David Leverton
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing

Not bloated.

 watch it devour config files

Lies.

 and be insulted by the troll-brigade. 

The only people who get insulted are those who repeatedly and deliberately 
spread vicious lies, FUD and personal attacks.

 Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.

It's not paludis-only, it will work with any package manager whose 
developers care enough to support the useful features of the kdebuild-1 EAPI.

 And as kdesvn-portage shows - it was unneeded.

Unneeded is a funny word.  You don't need ebuilds at all, but that doesn't 
mean they're not useful.

 'We need the features of paludis' was shown as bs.

No-one said any such thing.  They did say that they were sick of waiting years 
and years for Portage to provide features that would have made their and 
their users lives a lot easier.

 Just another little trick by the paludis-group

The KDE overlay isn't produced by the paludis-group.

 to convert people.

No, to provide ebuilds that make use of useful features that benefit both 
users and developers.

 Luckily that failed.

Wrong.



Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4.1 SLOT in kdesvn-portage

2008-09-22 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag 22 September 2008 03:42:39 schrieb ext Jerry McBride:

 Hmmm maybe you guys would know I've gone the same route as you.
 However, I've emerge 4.1.65. It compiles fine, installs, no problems.

And you don't wonder why 4.1.65 follows 4.1.1? That's 4.2-(pre?)-alpha! The 
next 4.1 release will be 4.1.2.

 Does anyone have a suggestion?

Don't use alpha software.

 Now running 3.5.10 with no problems. But I'd really, really like to get a
 current kde up and running.

Do as suggested earlier in this thread: Use the kde-testing overlay.

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] neon: endless up-/down-grade

2006-08-01 Thread Andreas Schoelver
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:28:04 +0100
Steve Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
 I think that the fundamental problem is that the neon API changes between 
 versions, so rapidsvn will only compile against one version of neon while 
 gnome-vfs will only compile against a different version.
 
 I had this problem a few days ago and realised I don't use rapdisvn, as I 
 prefer kdesvn, so I removed rapidsvn and the problem went away. This isn't 
 much help though if you need rapidsvn :-(


That was just what I thought as that happaned. :-)
So Imo either neon should be slotted, or even fixed, as my rapidsvn ebuild
requires the old neon version to be installed, but does not compile 
against it.

 See:
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139318

I will take a look.

Andreas
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help setting up eix!

2006-01-06 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Sullivan schreef:
 I've been reading about eix, and as using emerge Ss takes forever, I
 decided to try eix.  I emerged it and ran update-eix and tried to search
 for kde.  Here's my output:
 
 camille ~ # update-eix
 Reading Portage settings ..
 Building database (/var/cache/eix) from scratch ..
 [0] /usr/portage/ (cache: cdb)
  Reading 100%
 [1] /usr/local/portage (cache: none)
  Reading 100%
 Applying masks ..
 Database contains 0 packages in 145 categories.
 camille ~ # eix -s kde
 
 Found 0 matches
 camille ~ #
 
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 

I don't know, except for the fact that there's no packages in the eix
database. But I don't see why that should be happening. This is the
output you *should* be getting:

 eix kde
* app-i18n/uim-kdehelper
 Available versions:  ~0.1.0-r1
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://uim.freedesktop.org/Software/uim-kdehelper
 Description: Qt replacement of toolbar, system tray, applet
and candidate window for UIM library.

* app-pda/synce-kde
 Available versions:  ~0.6.1 ~0.7.2 ~0.8.0
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://synce.sourceforge.net
 Description: Synchronize Windows CE devices with computers
running GNU/Linux, like MS ActiveSync. - KDE System Tray utility
(formerly app-pda/rapip)

* dev-embedded/pikdev
 Available versions:  0.6.6a 0.7.1 0.7.1-r1 ~0.7.1-r2
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://pikdev.free.fr/
 Description: Graphical IDE for PIC-based application
development

* dev-python/pykde
 Available versions:  ~3.11.1 3.11.3 ~3.12_pre20051013
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pykde/
 Description: set of Python bindings for the KDE libs

* dev-util/kdevelop
 Available versions:  3.1.2 3.2.1-r1 ~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.3-r1 ~3.3.0
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.kdevelop.org
 Description: Integrated Development Enviroment for Unix,
supporting KDE/Qt, C/C++ and a many other languages.

* dev-util/kdesvn
 Available versions:  ~0.6.2 ~0.7.1
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.alwins-world.de/programs/kdesvn/
 Description: KDESvn is a frontend to the subversion vcs.

* games-board/ggz-kde-client
 Available versions:  ~0.0.9
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://ggz.sourceforge.net/
 Description: The kde client for GGZ Gaming Zone

* games-board/ggz-kde-games
 Available versions:  ~0.0.9
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://ggz.sourceforge.net/
 Description: These are the kde versions of the games made
by GGZ Gaming Zone

* kde-base/kdeprint
 Available versions:  3.4.1 3.4.2 3.4.3 3.5.0
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
 Description: KDE printer queue/device manager

* kde-base/kdegraphics
 Available versions:  3.3.2-r3 3.4.1-r1 ~3.4.1-r3 ~3.4.2-r2 ~3.4.3
3.4.3-r2 3.4.3-r3 ~3.5.0 ~3.5.0-r2 ~3.5.0-r3 ~3.5.0-r4
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
 Description: KDE graphics-related apps

* kde-base/kdepim-meta
 Available versions:  3.4.1 ~3.4.2 3.4.3 ~3.5.0
 Installed:   none
 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
 Description: kdepim - merge this to pull in all
kdepim-derived packages

* kde-base/kdesu
 Available versions:  3.4.1 3.5.0
 Installed:   3.4.1 3.5.0
 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
 Description: KDE: gui for su(1)

snip

[1] /usr/local/portage

Found 96 matches

The  only thing I see is maybe you want to disable that cdb module,
depending on which version of Portage you're using (the latest stable
doesn't like it so much). But I don't think that would explain this, and
honestly I can't think of any configuration or anything that you need to
do with eix to get any ouput.

Sorry.
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help setting up eix!

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 01:31 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Michael Sullivan schreef:
  I've been reading about eix, and as using emerge Ss takes forever, I
  decided to try eix.  I emerged it and ran update-eix and tried to search
  for kde.  Here's my output:
  
  camille ~ # update-eix
  Reading Portage settings ..
  Building database (/var/cache/eix) from scratch ..
  [0] /usr/portage/ (cache: cdb)
   Reading 100%
  [1] /usr/local/portage (cache: none)
   Reading 100%
  Applying masks ..
  Database contains 0 packages in 145 categories.
  camille ~ # eix -s kde
  
  Found 0 matches
  camille ~ #
  
  
  What am I doing wrong?
  
 
 I don't know, except for the fact that there's no packages in the eix
 database. But I don't see why that should be happening. This is the
 output you *should* be getting:
 
  eix kde
 * app-i18n/uim-kdehelper
  Available versions:  ~0.1.0-r1
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://uim.freedesktop.org/Software/uim-kdehelper
  Description: Qt replacement of toolbar, system tray, applet
 and candidate window for UIM library.
 
 * app-pda/synce-kde
  Available versions:  ~0.6.1 ~0.7.2 ~0.8.0
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://synce.sourceforge.net
  Description: Synchronize Windows CE devices with computers
 running GNU/Linux, like MS ActiveSync. - KDE System Tray utility
 (formerly app-pda/rapip)
 
 * dev-embedded/pikdev
  Available versions:  0.6.6a 0.7.1 0.7.1-r1 ~0.7.1-r2
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://pikdev.free.fr/
  Description: Graphical IDE for PIC-based application
 development
 
 * dev-python/pykde
  Available versions:  ~3.11.1 3.11.3 ~3.12_pre20051013
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pykde/
  Description: set of Python bindings for the KDE libs
 
 * dev-util/kdevelop
  Available versions:  3.1.2 3.2.1-r1 ~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.3-r1 ~3.3.0
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://www.kdevelop.org
  Description: Integrated Development Enviroment for Unix,
 supporting KDE/Qt, C/C++ and a many other languages.
 
 * dev-util/kdesvn
  Available versions:  ~0.6.2 ~0.7.1
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://www.alwins-world.de/programs/kdesvn/
  Description: KDESvn is a frontend to the subversion vcs.
 
 * games-board/ggz-kde-client
  Available versions:  ~0.0.9
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://ggz.sourceforge.net/
  Description: The kde client for GGZ Gaming Zone
 
 * games-board/ggz-kde-games
  Available versions:  ~0.0.9
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://ggz.sourceforge.net/
  Description: These are the kde versions of the games made
 by GGZ Gaming Zone
 
 * kde-base/kdeprint
  Available versions:  3.4.1 3.4.2 3.4.3 3.5.0
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
  Description: KDE printer queue/device manager
 
 * kde-base/kdegraphics
  Available versions:  3.3.2-r3 3.4.1-r1 ~3.4.1-r3 ~3.4.2-r2 ~3.4.3
 3.4.3-r2 3.4.3-r3 ~3.5.0 ~3.5.0-r2 ~3.5.0-r3 ~3.5.0-r4
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
  Description: KDE graphics-related apps
 
 * kde-base/kdepim-meta
  Available versions:  3.4.1 ~3.4.2 3.4.3 ~3.5.0
  Installed:   none
  Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
  Description: kdepim - merge this to pull in all
 kdepim-derived packages
 
 * kde-base/kdesu
  Available versions:  3.4.1 3.5.0
  Installed:   3.4.1 3.5.0
  Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
  Description: KDE: gui for su(1)
 
 snip
 
 [1] /usr/local/portage
 
 Found 96 matches
 
 The  only thing I see is maybe you want to disable that cdb module,
 depending on which version of Portage you're using (the latest stable
 doesn't like it so much). But I don't think that would explain this, and
 honestly I can't think of any configuration or anything that you need to
 do with eix to get any ouput.
 
 Sorry.
 Holly

I deleted /etc/eixrc (which I created earlier today) and ran update-eix
and now I'm seeing output more like I was expecting.  Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1 ebuild

2008-08-02 Thread Rev. Ferris
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Alle venerdì 01 agosto 2008, Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto:
 Am Freitag, 1. August 2008 09:27:27 schrieb Rev. Ferris:
  I want to install the new kde 4, but I see any 4.1 version ebuild.
  I understood that the the series should be unmasked, but I don't
  know if if installation needs something special (like the new use
  kde-4). Anyone who installed/want to install it can help me to
  install too?

 KDE 4.1 ebuilds are not yet in the official portage tree. You can get
 them from the kdesvn-portage overlay. It also contains the correct
 files for unmasking.

 HTH...

   Dirk
I tried this night to build the 4.1 trees using layman and this guide: 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/KDE4
but I can't start the emerge operation because I found 2 blocking 
packages:

[blocks B ] x11-libs/qt-core (is blocking x11-libs/qt-4.3.5)
[blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4 (is blocking 
x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.0, 
x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.0, 
x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-svg-4.4.0, 
x11-libs/qt-test-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.4.0, 
x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.4.0)

I see: 
[ebuild  NS   ] x11-libs/qt-4.3.5  USE=accessibility cups dbus gif jpeg 
mng mysql opengl png qt3support ssl tiff xinerama 
zlib -debug -doc -examples -firebird -glib -nas -nis -odbc -pch -postgres 
-sqlite -sqlite3 
INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom


How can I solve this conflict?
Thanks,
Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1 ebuild

2008-08-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 2. August 2008, Rev. Ferris wrote:
 Alle venerdì 01 agosto 2008, Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto:
  Am Freitag, 1. August 2008 09:27:27 schrieb Rev. Ferris:
   I want to install the new kde 4, but I see any 4.1 version ebuild.
   I understood that the the series should be unmasked, but I don't
   know if if installation needs something special (like the new use
   kde-4). Anyone who installed/want to install it can help me to
   install too?
 
  KDE 4.1 ebuilds are not yet in the official portage tree. You can get
  them from the kdesvn-portage overlay. It also contains the correct
  files for unmasking.
 
  HTH...
 
  Dirk

 I tried this night to build the 4.1 trees using layman and this guide:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/KDE4
 but I can't start the emerge operation because I found 2 blocking
 packages:

 [blocks B ] x11-libs/qt-core (is blocking x11-libs/qt-4.3.5)
 [blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4 (is blocking
 x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.0,
 x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.0,
 x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-svg-4.4.0,
 x11-libs/qt-test-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.4.0,
 x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0, x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.4.0)

 I see:
 [ebuild  NS   ] x11-libs/qt-4.3.5  USE=accessibility cups dbus gif jpeg
 mng mysql opengl png qt3support ssl tiff xinerama
 zlib -debug -doc -examples -firebird -glib -nas -nis -odbc -pch -postgres
 -sqlite -sqlite3 INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom


 How can I solve this conflict?

remove all qt versions 3 and 4.4.0




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:16:08 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
 
   You know, there's an overlay...

 But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...

There's *two* kde overlays, developed in parallel. One requires paludis, the 
other doesn't:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/distfiles/svn-src/e17/e/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA $ eix 
kde-meta
[I] kde-base/kde-meta
 Available versions:
(3.5)   3.5.9
(kde-4) [M](~)4.0.4 [M](~)4.0.5
(4.1)   (~)4.1.1[1]
(4.2)   **4.1.65[1]
(kde-svn)   **[1]
{accessibility admin edu games graphics l10n multimedia network nls 
pim sdk toys utils}
 Installed versions:  3.5.9(3.5)(15:12:36 09/04/08)(-accessibility -nls)
  4.1.1(4.1)[1](01:57:59 09/05/08)(admin edu games 
graphics l10n multimedia network pim sdk toys utils -accessibility)
 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
 Description: KDE - merge this to pull in all non-developer, split 
kde-base/* packages

[1] kde4-overlay /var/portage/local/layman/kdesvn-portage


I don't have paludis. I do have kde-4.1.1

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Re: [MBZ] SDL a/c not working

2008-09-13 Thread Luther
Belt, tensioner, shock, spring, a/c compressor are all brand new from 
Rusty.  Compressor was just installed a couple weeks ago.  The other 
parts were done when I installed the 22 head. 
I will check the speed wiring etc after this weekend.  It keeps doing 
this run then off thing only when the car is cold.  Turning the car off 
and on won't kick it back on.  It has to cool off.

Luther

Peter Frederick wrote:
 in cool weather, that's about right.

 You will have to check out the speed sensor, the wiring, and the  
 pushbutton unit, sadly.

 The wires for the speed sensor can break at the pin on the  
 compressor, or the solder can crack there, causing an intermittant  
 poor connection.

 Also verify the condition of the belt and tensioner -- the car will  
 run just fine with broken tensioner spring except that the AC will  
 keep kicking out.  A slipping belt will do it, and so will a back AC  
 compressor.

 Check the clutch on the compressor for excessive heat after a short  
 run -- if it slips, the compressor will be shut off by the KLIMA  
 until the ignition is cycled on and off (this is a quick test for a  
 bad clutch or cos-only was a BIG mistake.

 And as kdesvn-portage shows - it was unneeded. 'We need the features of
 paludis' was shown as bs. Just another little trick by the paludis-group to
 convert people.

 Luckily that failed. You don't need it.





Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmerge kde 4.1?

2008-09-22 Thread s3b4sm4gr1
2008/9/23 Paul Hartman
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 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Howdy,
 
  Trying to switch from kde-portage to kde-testing overlays did not
  progress well.  What I'd like to do to recover is unmerge all the kde
  4.1 stuff and start over.  Does anyone know a simple way (maybe a
  script) to do this?  As far as I'm concerned, I'd really like to unmerge
  everything installed from the overlay.

 Unmerge the packages you specifically merged (kde-meta:4.1 perhaps;
 whichever packages are in your world file) then run depclean. That's
 how I do it.

 Paul


cd to the kdesvn overlay in every category and emerge --unmerge *, then
cleanup your portage configuration files.. You can always make sure all is
fine by running depclean and then revdep-rebuild...

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Re: [gentoo-user] neon: endless up-/down-grade

2006-07-31 Thread Steve Evans
On Monday 31 July 2006 07:24, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 7/30/06, Andreas Schoelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sounds good, ...
  but: I performed a revdep-rebuild in between which did the downgrade of
  neon to 0.24.7, but the remerge of rapidsvn failed then.

 Hmm, maybe try to emerge --unmerge rapidsvn and then re-merge it.

 Another alternative to the package.mask solution: accept the ~arch
 version of rapidsvn (0.9.3), which works with =neon-0.26.  You can do
 this with (assuming you are on the x86 arch):

 echo ~dev-util/rapidsvn-0.9.3 ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords


I think that the fundamental problem is that the neon API changes between 
versions, so rapidsvn will only compile against one version of neon while 
gnome-vfs will only compile against a different version.

I had this problem a few days ago and realised I don't use rapdisvn, as I 
prefer kdesvn, so I removed rapidsvn and the problem went away. This isn't 
much help though if you need rapidsvn :-(

See:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139318

Steve
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Re: [gentoo-user] Make portage assume, that a package is installed

2007-06-15 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user]  Make portage assume, that a package is installed':
 Good morning!

 On my system, I did not install net-dialup/ppp.
 But I'd now like to install kde-base/kde-meta, which will
 pull in kde-base/kdenetwork-meta, which will pull in kde-base/kppp
 and this will finally pull in net-dialup/ppp.

 Can I now make it somehow so, that I am able to install kdenetwork-meta,
 but NOT install kppp  ppp?

 So I tried to create the file in /etc/portage. Contents:

 --($:~)-- cat /etc/portage/package.provided
 kde-base/kppp-3.5.7
 net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4-r8

 Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.

 How do I do it right?

As Peter Alfredsen mentioned, overrides for your profile should go 
in /etc/portage/profile instead of /etc/portage.

However, I suggest that a cleaner method would be to not install kde-meta 
or kdenetwork-meta at all but instead just install the KDE applications 
that you require.

For example:
$ grep -i kde /var/db/pkg/world
dev-util/kdesvn
kde-base/akregator
kde-base/kalzium
kde-base/kaudiocreator
kde-base/kcharselect
kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver
kde-base/kdeartwork-kwin-styles
kde-base/kdeartwork-styles
kde-base/kdebase-startkde
kde-base/kdm
kde-base/kget
kde-base/kgpg
kde-base/kicker-applets
kde-base/klipper
kde-base/kmahjongg
kde-base/kmail
kde-base/kmenuedit
kde-base/kmix
kde-base/kompare
kde-base/konq-plugins
kde-base/konqueror-akregator
kde-base/konsole
kde-base/kontact
kde-base/korganizer
kde-base/kpager
kde-base/kpdf
kde-base/kscreensaver
kde-base/kstars
kde-base/ksysguard
kde-base/kwalletmanager
kde-base/kwin
kde-base/superkaramba
kde-misc/kdiff3
kde-misc/filelight

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-16 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 14 September 2008 22:37:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.
 
  It's not paludis-only, it will work with any package manager whose
  developers care enough to support the useful features of the kdebuild-1
  EAPI.

 and that was an official api? Yes? No?

Official according to whom? It is a stable and well documented eapi that any 
package manager that regards those features to be useful can implement.

 Was it needed? No - proven by kdesvn-portage

And noone ever claimed otherwise.

[...]
  The KDE overlay isn't produced by the paludis-group.

 no, it was just made by vivid paludis fans. Hey, lets make an overlay a lot
 of user want - and make it paludis only. That way we can push paludis!

Wow. What do you base this nonsense on?

  No, to provide ebuilds that make use of useful features that benefit both
  users and developers.

 which one? Which features 'benefit both users and developers' and are sooo
 important that the kde overlay had to be paludis only?

 Name them please.

- '-scm' support (--dl-reinstall-scm for users)
- use dependencies (no surprising interruptions mid-merge)
- suggestions (you see them upfront rather than in elog messages afterwards)
- sets

The latter of these is not subject to eapi but incredibly useful when dealing 
with huge amounts of packages. It obsoletes meta packages and makes 
reinstalls or uninstalls of all packages in the sets trivial. For Paludis it 
also means that you can unmask/keyword two hundred packages just by addding 
the sets to your packages.{keywords,unmask} equivalents. Both Paludis and 
Portage 2.2 now has sets support although the details of their 
implementations vary greatly.

 Oh, does paludis support and equivalent to 'keep-going' or
 '--ignore-failures' or are people who wants this extremly usefull features
 still attacked and insulted?

Paludis had --continue-on-failure long before --keep-going was implemented in 
Portage (which is months after the creation of the kdebuild overlay). This is 
also one of the advantages that users of live KDE ebuilds got by using 
Paludis (or get if you consider the additional flexibility when compared 
to --keep-going to be useful).

On Monday 15 September 2008 00:38:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 lets see - an overlay is setup to develop and test ebuilds for KDE4 that
 should some day go into the tree.

 Deciding to use a feature that the official pm does not provide - and only
 one of the three makes the 'testing' part and 'for the tree' pretty
 superfluos.

And again I wonder what you base this nonsense on. Perhaps you never ever 
bothered to look at this overlay, what it provides or what the intentions 
behind it was?

As one of the original decision makers behind it I can tell you, that we never 
intended to put any of these ebuilds in the tree. For this reason it also 
never contained any release of KDE. Releases were maintained separately in 
the tree using eapi 1. It only contains live ebuilds. Which is where '-scm' 
and sets support provide the biggest advantages.

And we didn't do it to harass users. We did it because we wanted to get some 
real world experience with some of the features that Paludis had provided for 
years yet there were no indications Portage would support any time soon. Live 
KDE packages was deemed the place where adding this requirement made the most 
sense. Managing two hundred packages without those features is pain anyway.

We decided that the monthly KDE releases that we were packaging and adding to 
the main tree using eapi 1 were frequent enough for those who didn't want 
Paludis for whatever reason. If anybody disagreed with that they could 
maintain their own overlay (which they did/do). We also announced it over 
three weeks before we actually made it happen so anybody who cared about the 
live KDE ebuilds can't really complaim about having been caught by surprise.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-16 Thread cuciferus


On Tuesday 16 September 2008 21:04:11 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 On Sunday 14 September 2008 22:37:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.
  
   It's not paludis-only, it will work with any package manager whose
   developers care enough to support the useful features of the kdebuild-1
   EAPI.
 
  and that was an official api? Yes? No?

 Official according to whom? It is a stable and well documented eapi that
 any package manager that regards those features to be useful can implement.

  Was it needed? No - proven by kdesvn-portage

 And noone ever claimed otherwise.

 [...]

   The KDE overlay isn't produced by the paludis-group.
 
  no, it was just made by vivid paludis fans. Hey, lets make an overlay a
  lot of user want - and make it paludis only. That way we can push
  paludis!

 Wow. What do you base this nonsense on?

   No, to provide ebuilds that make use of useful features that benefit
   both users and developers.
 
  which one? Which features 'benefit both users and developers' and are
  sooo important that the kde overlay had to be paludis only?
 
  Name them please.

 - '-scm' support (--dl-reinstall-scm for users)
 - use dependencies (no surprising interruptions mid-merge)
 - suggestions (you see them upfront rather than in elog messages
 afterwards) - sets

 The latter of these is not subject to eapi but incredibly useful when
 dealing with huge amounts of packages. It obsoletes meta packages and makes
 reinstalls or uninstalls of all packages in the sets trivial. For Paludis
 it also means that you can unmask/keyword two hundred packages just by
 addding the sets to your packages.{keywords,unmask} equivalents. Both
 Paludis and Portage 2.2 now has sets support although the details of their
 implementations vary greatly.

  Oh, does paludis support and equivalent to 'keep-going' or
  '--ignore-failures' or are people who wants this extremly usefull
  features still attacked and insulted?

 Paludis had --continue-on-failure long before --keep-going was implemented
 in Portage (which is months after the creation of the kdebuild overlay).
 This is also one of the advantages that users of live KDE ebuilds got by
 using Paludis (or get if you consider the additional flexibility when
 compared to --keep-going to be useful).

 On Monday 15 September 2008 00:38:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  lets see - an overlay is setup to develop and test ebuilds for KDE4 that
  should some day go into the tree.
 
  Deciding to use a feature that the official pm does not provide - and
  only one of the three makes the 'testing' part and 'for the tree' pretty
  superfluos.

 And again I wonder what you base this nonsense on. Perhaps you never ever
 bothered to look at this overlay, what it provides or what the intentions
 behind it was?

 As one of the original decision makers behind it I can tell you, that we
 never intended to put any of these ebuilds in the tree. For this reason it
 also never contained any release of KDE. Releases were maintained
 separately in the tree using eapi 1. It only contains live ebuilds. Which
 is where '-scm' and sets support provide the biggest advantages.

 And we didn't do it to harass users. We did it because we wanted to get
 some real world experience with some of the features that Paludis had
 provided for years yet there were no indications Portage would support any
 time soon. Live KDE packages was deemed the place where adding this
 requirement made the most sense. Managing two hundred packages without
 those features is pain anyway.

 We decided that the monthly KDE releases that we were packaging and adding
 to the main tree using eapi 1 were frequent enough for those who didn't
 want Paludis for whatever reason. If anybody disagreed with that they could
 maintain their own overlay (which they did/do). We also announced it over
 three weeks before we actually made it happen so anybody who cared about
 the live KDE ebuilds can't really complaim about having been caught by
 surprise.
Actually on that I can rely. I've been using the kde-svn back when it was 
portage allowed, and I must say it has been an improvement switching to 
paludis. As a user I find --continue-on-failure much better and flexible than 
--skip-first and on a live scm tree as this overlay has it is much needed.( 
I don't know about --keep-going since it has been implemented only after I've 
switched to paludis). I like paludis and it's my choise to use it. To each his 
own. 
Also don't flatter your selves I wouldn't(would) use a package just because 
some dev said something about some other dev, or discard(like) it because some 
conversation on IRC. I know what is right for me. So keep using 
emerge/gnome/bsd whatever fits you and let's ALL continue with our lives!




[gentoo-user] xpdf + KDE + emerge whackiness...

2005-12-29 Thread Jeff
Ok...

emerge -uDNp world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r4 (is blocking
app-text/poppler-0.4.3-r1)
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/motif-config-0.9
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r8
[ebuild  N] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3
[ebuild U ] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.2-r1 [1.2.1]
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4
[ebuild   R   ] net-nds/openldap-2.2.28-r3
[ebuild  N] net-fs/samba-3.0.14a-r2
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.2.1 [3.0-r2]
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r2
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre7-r1
[ebuild UD] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.50-r2]
[ebuild UD] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.5.5.1-r2]
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/arts-3.4.3
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kompare-3.4.3

app-text/poppler-0.4.3-r1 is already installed, so why would xpdf come
out to be a blocker as well as try to install 2 instances of itself,
even though it doesn't exist in /etc/portage/package.*?

Also, what's up with the old KDE stuff trying to be built when it's been
properly removed from my system?

more /etc/portage/package.keywords | grep kde
dev-util/kdesvn ~x86
kde-base/arts ~x86
kde-base/kde ~x86
kde-base/kde-env ~x86
kde-base/kdeaddons ~x86
kde-base/kdeadmin ~x86
kde-base/kdeartwork ~x86
kde-base/kdebase ~x86
kde-base/kdebase-pam ~x86
kde-base/kdeedu ~x86
kde-base/kdegames ~x86
kde-base/kdegraphics ~x86
kde-base/kdelibs ~x86
kde-base/kdemultimedia ~x86
kde-base/kdenetwork ~x86
kde-base/kdepim ~x86
kde-base/kdetoys ~x86
kde-base/kdeutils ~x86
kde-base/kdewebdev ~x86

Am I supposed to explicitly tell portage an exact KDE version in my
package.keywords?

Not necessarily a Linux n00b, but still a Gentoo/portage n00b. Your help
is much appreciated! Thanks all!

-- 
Han Solo:
Well Princess, it looks like you managed to keep me
here a while longer.
Princess Leia:
I had nothing to do with it. General Rieekan thinks
it's dangerous for anyone to leave the system until
they've activated the energy shield.
Han Solo:
That's a good story. I think you just can't bear to
let a gorgeous guy like me out of your sight.
Princess Leia:
I don't know where you get you delusions, laser brain!
Chewbacca laughs
Han Solo:
Laugh it up, fuzzball!
Gentoo Base System version 1.12.0_pre12
Portage 2.0.53 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 
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/usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config 
/var/qmail/control
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[gentoo-user] KDE-4.1 apps render slowly

2008-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all,

This post might be a bit vague, sorry about that, I'm not sure where to start 
or how to explain it.

New laptop with nVidia GeForce 8600. Arch ~amd64, emerged kde-meta-4.1, but it 
renders exceptionally slowly on the screen when scrolling. The effect is as if 
something is keeping the system very busy while input actions occur:

It can take 30 secs to scroll slashdot's front page from top to bottom.
Any web page displayed in akregator inside kontact is even slower.
When kwallet pops up asking for the master password, it misses keystrokes when 
typing at normal speed.
Scrolling through a long mail in kmail is slightly slower than normal, but 
scrolling the same mail in a reply window is full speed.
Konqueror in split-window mode takes a few seconds to react when navigating 
through directories.

Firefox works normally. I use e17 as the window manager, so I'm seeing this 
just using KDE apps, not the whole DE. top, krells and other regular tools 
show the system running normally, no apparent spikes or busyness.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a nice howto or the correct tools to 
figure out what's going on here?

emerge --info:
Portage 2.2_rc6 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.1, 
glibc-2.8_p20080602-r0, 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 x86_64)

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System uname: Linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r7-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Timestamp of tree: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:33:01 +  

app-shells/bash: 3.2_p39

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dev-lang/python: 2.5.2-r7
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sys-apps/openrc: 0.2.5
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r3
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.62-r1
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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 ~amd64
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CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/4.1/env /usr/kde/4.1/share/config 
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/etc/eselect/postgresql /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release 
/etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active//etc/php/cli-
php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d
CXXFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe
DISTDIR=/var/distfiles
FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer parallel-fetch preserve-libs sandbox 
sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox
GENTOO_MIRRORS=/mnt/distfiles/ ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/gentoo.org/ 
http://distfiles.gentoo.org 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo;
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compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --
exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
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/var/portage/local/layman/kdesvn-portage /var/portage/local/alan
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