Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-31 11:20 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't use the systemd USE flag (and never install anything that depends on systemd), you will not get systemd installed, but many packages will install systemd unit files in /urs/lib/systemd/system. This unit files

[gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hey list after the many discussions here about systemd I had a flash of objectivity (“Who cares if people rant about Lennart, the concept seems sound and I don’t care about separate /usr”). So I wanted to try systemd on my netbook. I cloned the / partition from sda2 to sda7 and chrooted

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.09.2013 13:46, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: Hey list after the many discussions here about systemd I had a flash of objectivity (“Who cares if people rant about Lennart, the concept seems sound and I don’t care about separate /usr”). So I wanted to try systemd on my netbook. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
everything and part of this foiled plot revealed itself two days ago. It was said earlier in the list by systemd supporters, that this project is modular, fine split to binaries and thus critical issues in the pid 1 are not that likely. And just look at systemd-209 release notes: http

[gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, mean this i must install now systemd? What can do when i not want systemd. The system what i have is good, i want not change to systemd. [ebuild U ~] sys-devel/gettext-0.19 [0.18.3.2] USE=acl cxx ncurses nls openmp -cvs -doc -emacs -git -java -static-libs 16,221 kB [ebuild R

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/09/2014 02:12, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: Mark David Dumlao wrote: The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit. If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it took since you first posted in this thread till now you could have measured several

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-10-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 06:31:25 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:56 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Sunday, October 26, 2014 02:16:24 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: And with systemd, rebooting to a new kernel takes just a few seconds ;) And here I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: minimal installation CD iso is where?,

2015-08-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: And, no, I won't install any package which is merged into systemd. As you mentioned udev, what do you need udev for if you don't use systemd? Just install eudev. Works perfectly without any systemd dependency. Like I

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/08/2015 13:49, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >> A clue is in the ebuilds for systemd: >> > >> > sysv-utils? ( >> > !sys-apps/systemd-sysv-utils >> > !sys-apps/sysvinit ) >> > >> > That's a ha

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-09-01 Thread covici
68 > >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=02 > >> > >> It seems to me like this is a portage issue with the resolver. > >> Running emerge -1 python-systemd sounds like it fixes the issue. > >> Apparently once it is installed portage will figur

[gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread James
James tampabay.rr.com> writes: Boy this just keeps getting stranger and stranger. So I:: emerge -C sys-fs/udev emerge eudev no problems, then in /etc/portage/package.mask I masked off:: sys-apps/systemd sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration On a normal, routine update, I have abou

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:40:47 + (UTC), James wrote: > emerge -uDtvp @world reveals the same trouble:: > > [ebuild R] sys-apps/dbus-1.8.16::gentoo USE="X systemd* -debug > -doc (-selinux) -static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB > [ebui

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI booting

2016-08-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On Sunday 28 Aug 2016 10:55:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:43:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > I'd still like to know where the directory /usr/lib64/systemd/boot/e

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/30/2017 01:39 PM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > I do not want to start a whole systemd storm, glad i was offline for > that. however, in my case i'd really like to avoid systemd. can i > setup with out systemd, or do i need to remove and patch later. > obvi

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

2017-09-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:55:22 +0200 schrieb Raffaele Belardi <raffaele.bela...@st.com>: > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager You don't need to uninstall networkmanager except you want to uninstall it for some other reasons. It doesn't need gnome or systemd. > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/systemd is blocking app-emulation/docker-19.03.12

2020-08-22 Thread Ashley Dixon
-mapper -hardened" 0 KiB > [blocks B  ] sys-apps/systemd[-cgroup-hybrid(+)] > ("sys-apps/systemd[-cgroup-hybrid(+)]" is blocking > app-emulation/docker-19.03.12) > > Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 0 KiB > Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied) > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/systemd is blocking app-emulation/docker-19.03.12

2020-08-23 Thread Hogren
: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild  N ] app-emulation/docker-19.03.12::gentoo USE="container-init overlay seccomp -apparmor -aufs -btrfs -device-mapper -hardened" 0 KiB [blocks B  ] sys-apps/systemd[-cgroup-hybrid(+)] ("sys-apps/systemd[-cgroup-hybrid(+)]" is bl

Re: [gentoo-user] A couple of problems with systemd

2022-05-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
, but slows down the boot > > > process. It is > > > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd-wait-online.service. Because > > > many jobs wait in queue for a while, till this fails. > > > > Are you using systemd-networkd or something else to manage your > >

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-boot on openrc

2022-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 9:03 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 17 April 2022 12:13:06 -00 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > --->8 > > It looks like this is cause my using mixed keywords, amd64 for udev and > > ~amd64 for systemd-boot/utils. Does keywording udev-250 reso

[gentoo-user] my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-14 Thread John Covici
or not: Feb 14 06:36:31 ccs.covici.com systemd[1]: Starting local.service... Feb 14 06:36:31 ccs.covici.com systemd[1]: Starting systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service... Feb 14 06:36:31 ccs.covici.com bash[5753]: rm: cannot remove '/etc/ppp/provider_is_up': No such file or directory Feb 14 06:36:31

[gentoo-user] split-usr

2024-01-11 Thread William Kenworthy
split-usr flag enabled on my profile (5):   [5]   default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop (stable)   [6]   default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome (stable)   [7]   default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd (stable)   [8]   default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd/merged-usr (stable)   [9]

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

2013-03-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 04.03.2013 20:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Next systemd-issue (yes, I know ... openrc is there as well ...): I get warnings like superblock date is in the future --- REPAIRED for filesystems at boot-time

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
static-libs Removing this didn't help either. No special use-flags for systemd in package.use. profile: default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome portage tree pulled in again right now ... still: # emerge -1 udev systemd Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-apps/systemd-198-r5

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.03.2013 22:56, schrieb Mike Gilbert: Try just emerge -v1 systemd. You no longer need sys-fs/udev, and it should be removed when you upgrade to sys-apps/systemd-r5. Oh, interesting. I understand. Is there any information somewhere on this (no ranting! just asking for ... as other users

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-27 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/27/2013 10:25 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok... So, what is this all about? Does all of this mean that udev is now going *completely* away, *totally* replaced by systemd? If so, has there been any kind of formal announcement about this *anywhere*?? Hold your horses. The devs will work

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-27 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/27/2013 10:33 AM, Michael Mol wrote: On 03/27/2013 10:25 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok... So, what is this all about? Does all of this mean that udev is now going *completely* away, *totally* replaced by systemd? If so, has there been any kind of formal announcement about this *anywhere

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/31/2013 11:20 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: For the record, I now think it's a waste of time trying to stop the installation of tiny files that basically do nothing, either in /usr/lib/systemd/system or in /etc/init.d, but you have the option if you so desire. The nice thing about

[gentoo-user] cannot boot using systemd and initrd

2014-01-20 Thread covici
Hi. I am having a problem booting using systemd and an initrd generated by genkernel. I get the message that says (may be slight paraphrase) that /dev/mapper/linux--files-64--root does not appear to be a valid /, try again. Now in the gentoo guide to systemd, I did what I think it wanted me

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot boot using systemd and initrd

2014-01-21 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:38 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having a problem booting using systemd and an initrd generated by genkernel. I get the message that says (may be slight paraphrase) that /dev/mapper/linux--files-64--root does not appear to be a valid /, try again

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Joseph
: systemd in make.conf file: USE=... to enable it globally? Supposedly, you should enable local flags per package in /etc/portage/package.use, but many does put it on make.conf. Either way, if you are using systemd, you *should* set the systemd USE flag on everything, otherwise the package

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
they *truly* require systemd. I don't understand what you mean by the extent of these programs. Sorry, worded that badly... I meant, basically, how many programs now require systemd... The packages requiring loingd. I can't for the life of me think of any reason that server daemons like postfix

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
to use whatever one wants, but I ask to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd profile for those willing to use it. Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to use systemd. Or to create a non-systemd profile :) That's the best response I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote: On 21.02.2014 08:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote: So all talks about systemd being modular are nothing more than nonsense. Guess what will happen on segfault in libsystemd.so? Segfaults in pid 1 are so nice to bear

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd not starting wpa_supplicant after last update

2015-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:37:22 -0800, walt wrote: % ls -l /etc/systemd/system/systemd-networkd.service.wants/ systemd-resolved.service - /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-resolved.service wpa_supplicant@wlan0.service - /usr/lib64/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant@.service Yes, thank you

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-09-01 Thread covici
Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Got it, finally :-) > > > > fail2ban wants sys-apps/systemd[python(-)], and systemd-219_p112 is the > > highest version with an expli

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd, libgudev and bug 552036

2015-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 21:00:02 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > Still blocked - anything else i should try? > > tnx. > > > # emerge -a1 =sys-apps/systemd-226-r2 dev-libs/libgudev virtual/libgudev Why are you including libgudev in the merge list? If it's a dependency of systemd, let

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd, libgudev and bug 552036

2015-12-18 Thread Adam Carter
emerge -1avt systemd These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R] sys-apps/systemd-218-r5:0/2::gentoo USE="acl gudev introspection kmod lz4 pam policykit python seccomp ssl (-apparmor) -audit -cryptsetup -curl -doc -elf

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd, libgudev and bug 552036

2015-12-17 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Dec 17, 2015 9:37 PM, "Adam Carter" <adamcart...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The gudev USE flag is deprecated from systemd, and the functionality is now provided by libgudev (see bug 552036). However, i get the following block; > > # emerge -a1 =sys-apps/syst

[gentoo-user] systemd, libgudev and bug 552036

2015-12-17 Thread Adam Carter
The gudev USE flag is deprecated from systemd, and the functionality is now provided by libgudev (see bug 552036). However, i get the following block; # emerge -a1 =sys-apps/systemd-226-r2 dev-libs/libgudev These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

2016-06-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/06/2016 06:04 PM, Tom H wrote: > > 1) I've never used systemd on Gentoo but I assume that you can > co-install openrc and systemd. So you'd want to check whether systemd > is running: > > [ -d /run/systemd/system ] > I think the way I did this, it will

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 09 Feb 2016 17:55:54 James wrote: > Jc García gmail.com> writes: > > >> What I'm > > >> missing is why the "-systemd" setting in make.conf did not overrule > > >> these missteps? Is there way to set something, anything anywh

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI booting

2016-08-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 28 Aug 2016 10:55:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:43:17 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I'd still like to know where the directory /usr/lib64/systemd/boot/efi > > came from though. > > Surely it's from systemd-boot, it is installed by systemd he

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI booting

2016-08-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
/dev/disk/by-partuuid/f3fa7b95-0a65-4716-924a-ae3f30811de5 > > > > File: └─/EFI/systemd/systemd-bootx64.efi (systemd-boot 231) > > File: └─/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI > > > > Those binaries have been built on my system: by what process

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd questions: hdparm unit file, OpenRC packages

2017-04-11 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Kai Krakow wrote: Am Mon, 10 Apr 2017 09:27:57 +0200 schrieb Raffaele Belardi <raffaele.bela...@st.com>: Looks like systemd does not provide a unit file for hdparm yet, right? If so I suppose I'll have to write my own. In general I suppose the same holds for everything that was unde

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Dale
d.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com > <mailto:mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com> wrote: > > I do not want to start a whole systemd storm, glad i was > offline for > that. however, in my case i'd really like to avoid systemd. can i > setup

Re: [gentoo-user] systemD?

2017-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:39 PM, <mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com> wrote: > are some of the available kernels not systemd, Michael's answer was correct, but I just wanted to note that the kernel and systemd are really two different things. You don't really need to do anythin

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/systemd-239-r2 does not install completely

2018-11-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 23.11.18 um 09:36 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:33:03 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >>>>> What version does "qlist ICv systemd" show? >>>> >>>> No version, just a long list of files. >>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/systemd-239-r2 does not install completely

2019-01-12 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 23.11.18 um 10:09 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >>> # qlist -ICv systemd sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-7 >>> sys-apps/systemd-236-r5 >> >> Since no one else has come up with anything less kludgy, and I >> assume you have already tried reins

Re: [gentoo-user] davfs2 suddenly not working properly

2019-04-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:41:41 -0400, John Covici wrote: > Apr 17 18:39:55 ccs.covici.com systemd-coredump[5334]: Process 5332 > (umount.davfs) of user 0 dumped core. > Apr 17 18:39:55 ccs.covici.com systemd[1]: > systemd-coredump@0-5333-0.service: Succeeded. > > I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] davfs2 suddenly not working properly

2019-04-18 Thread John Covici
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 03:20:25 -0400, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 21:41:41 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > > Apr 17 18:39:55 ccs.covici.com systemd-coredump[5334]: Process 5332 > > (umount.davfs) of user 0 dumped core. > > Apr 17 18:

Re: [gentoo-user] empty cdrom drive is busy or mounted

2019-08-16 Thread Jack
On 2019.08.16 12:26, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 08/16/2019 05:25:34 PM, Jack wrote: try "lsof /cdrom"?  It says the mount point, not the device, might be busy. Unfortunately, the problem is still there. dmesg shows [ 1326.461161] systemd-udevd[9882]: Process 'cdrom_id --eject-me

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread covici
nterleaved > >> > >> > >>> Hi. On my latest update of world, I have a few blockers which I am > >>> unable to figure out how to solve -- I will put the related output below > >>> with inserted comments. I am using "unstable" gentooan

Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
in gmane). portage won't let me downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 -- should I do that? You mean 210. I'm on 208; my LVM test system is basically stable. However Jc says he's got it to work with dracut 037-r1; perhaps try that version first? What I do know is that with dracut 037

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd question

2012-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:56 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/2012 02:42 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I just installed and booted with systemd and most services are working normally, except syslog.service and remote

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd

2013-09-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/2013 05:43 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: [I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for gnome-3.8. I first want to try systemd on a test system so am building that one up.] On my main system (currently

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-19 Thread Gevisz
ones right to use whatever one wants, but I ask to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd profile for those willing to use it. Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to use systemd. Or to create a non-systemd profile :) That's

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread Jim Burwell
, what exactly is wrong with systemd writing a dhcp server client, and an ntp client? Is that project prohibited from writing such software? Are they not allowed to do it? Does it break legal laws? Is there an NDA or non-compete clause in the mix that I'm not aware of? Because they are the only

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 31/08/2015 13:49, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > >> A clue is in the ebuilds for systemd: > >> > > >> > sysv-utils? ( > >> > !sys-apps/systemd-sysv-utils > >&g

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd, libgudev and bug 552036

2015-12-18 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/18/2015 07:43 PM, Adam Carter wrote: > emerge -1avt systemd > > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] > sys-apps/systemd-218-r5:0/2::gent

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/08/2015 16:03, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 31/08/2015 13:49, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >>>> A clue is in the ebuilds for systemd: >>>>> >>>>> sysv

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-09-01 Thread covici
e meaning doesn't :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> It looks like fail2ban wants systemd without python support, but the > >>>>> true reason is still hidden. The fail2ban ebuild has this: > >>>>> > >>>>> RDEPEND=&

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
v...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >>>>>> The words make sense, the meaning doesn't :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It looks like fail2ban wants systemd without python support, but the >>>>>>> true reason is still hidden. The fail2ban ebuild has

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
ve a few blockers which I am >>> unable to figure out how to solve -- I will put the related output below >>> with inserted comments. I am using "unstable" gentooand I have masked >>> ncurses-6 for the time being. Portage also wants to downgrade my >>> systemd

[gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-06 Thread gottlieb
I hadn't synced one of my stable boxes for a while and tried today. This brings in gnome-3.8 and with it systemd. I realize I will need to *run* systemd to go to gnome-3.10. Indeed I do run systemd on my two main systems (~amd64). I was hoping to put off converting to systemd on this stable

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I hadn't synced one of my stable boxes for a while and tried today. This brings in gnome-3.8 and with it systemd. I realize I will need to *run* systemd to go to gnome-3.10. Indeed I do run systemd on my two main systems (~amd64). I

Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

2014-05-14 Thread covici
downgrade unless I downgrade systemd to 2.10 -- should I do that? You mean 210. I'm on 208; my LVM test system is basically stable. However Jc says he's got it to work with dracut 037-r1; perhaps try that version first? What I do know is that with dracut 037, me and Stefan ran intro

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2014-02-20 1:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: The moment I saw that the profile is already done, I changed my mind; the people using systemd ALREADY did the work (which seems to be trivial, BTW; I

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

2015-05-28 Thread covici
parameter wrong on purpose, and systemd (inside dracut) dropped me inside a rescue shell. Interesting. Perhaps it just enables shell access. There is a separate option that configures whether dracut drops to a shell at all, or if it just hangs on failure. The latter might be desirable

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

2015-05-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it does work (see attached screenshot). I set my root= kernel command line parameter wrong on purpose, and systemd (inside dracut

Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Joseph
On 02/05/14 15:01, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [snip] If you are using GRUB2, change /etc/default/grub and modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it has init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Then run grub2-mkconfig again. Beware, systemd requires some kernel config options set or it will not work. For systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
referred to it as a 'rant'), while I agree with most everything you said, your primary point - that it should be the people who *don't* want systemd doing all of the work - was backwards, and that was what I wanted to point out. I'm afraid this is the part that's backwards. You are wrong. So, please

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Gevisz
-read your 'extremely overly enthusiastic' post (this plus the content is why I referred to it as a 'rant'), while I agree with most everything you said, your primary point - that it should be the people who *don't* want systemd doing all of the work - was backwards, and that was what I wanted

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I safely switch (no)multilib profile???

2023-04-18 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
64/17.1/desktop stable amd64default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome stable amd64default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd stable amd64 default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/sys

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
are a normal laptop user, systemd has replaced most of the functionality of consolekit; so if you boot with systemd, several packages need to have enable the systemd USE flag (and the consolekit one disabled). In particular, pambase and polkit need to set either systemd or consolekit, but cannot set

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

2013-03-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 04.03.2013 20:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Next systemd-issue (yes, I know ... openrc is there as well ...): I get warnings like

Re: [gentoo-user] Back to openrc from systemd

2013-03-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, do you know some guide to switch form systemd to openrc, or keep both? I googled and I didn't find. The motivation is that I'm studing many server stuff, and I'm tired of search for alternatives to systemd

[gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
William Hubbs closed bug #409385[1] as fixed, introducing virtual/service-manager and adding it to the @system set, and dropping OpenRC from baselayout's post dependencies. Therefore, as of today, anyone can have a Gentoo machine with only systemd, with no OpenRC installed. Since

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-08-02 Thread Poncho
systemd, with no OpenRC installed. Since that was the raison d'être of the gentoo-systemd-only overlay[2], I'm deprecating it soon. If you install dracut you will also pull sysvinit (it's needed for killall5, IIRC), Seems like the bin/pidof - ../sbin/killall5 dependency is removed in git: https

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS

2013-09-03 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 03.09.2013 13:46, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: Hey list after the many discussions here about systemd I had a flash of objectivity (“Who cares if people rant about Lennart, the concept seems sound and I don’t care about separate /usr”). So I wanted to try systemd on my netbook. I

Re: [gentoo-user] digikam + systemd

2013-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I just did 'emerge -pv digikam' for 3.3.0 it wants to install 54 pkgs, incl systemd ; 10 pkgs are KDE include Marble. Is my surprise

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev

2013-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 26/09/13 04:30, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I want to downgrade systemd from 207-r2 to 204 (highest stable). I currently have virtual/udev-206-r2

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev?

2013-12-05 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:18:54 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Róbert Čerňanský ope...@tightmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am currently updating my system and Portage wants to replace udev (204) with systemd (208). My question is (hopefully

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Feb 4, 2014 7:28 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/04/14 18:38, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [snip] I'm using XFCE It all started to happen after I switched to systemd. So maybe on the weekend I'll try to switch one of the machine back to udev. I think all I need is to unmerge

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Feb 4, 2014 7:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/04/14 18:03, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to go from systemd to udev? I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem with mounting USB sick

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:07:12 +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to use systemd. Or to create a non-systemd profile :) We already have many of those, because systemd is not the default. Part of making it the default

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Sebastian Beßler
On 16.02.2014 21:56, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Hello List. and all are linked (not compilelink) in such a manner that you can't just pick and choose. Oh no, you get the full treatment if you like it or not. A few weeks ago I wanted to see what systemd is really like so I started a little

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
it or not. A few weeks ago I wanted to see what systemd is really like so I started a little test and switched to systemd on my private gentoo desktop system. I don't care what people say, if possible only my personal experience matters. First I thought that with systemd I have to use all the things

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-18 4:05 PM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote: First I thought that with systemd I have to use all the things shipped with systemd like journald (which I don't like because I think that a binary file for syslogs is just broken) so I looked into the config files

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd and USE=static

2014-02-20 Thread eroen
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:48:01 +, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I thought I'd have another look at systemd, so switched profiles, made sure I had all the kernel options needed and then did an emerge -uN world. It seems the systemd profile masks the static and static-libs USE

Re: [gentoo-user] banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used udev and unmerge systemd. Now I can't use Banshee which I use as my music player because

Re: [gentoo-user] banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-23 Thread Fox
On 02/23/2014 07:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used udev and unmerge systemd. Now I can't use

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and amixer

2014-05-29 Thread Michael Hampicke
to some strange values which involved so much feedback that I had to go to a root window and restore again. The strange thing is that I had no problems like this under openrc, so I wonder what systemd is doing and how I can get around it. The settings are supposed to be automatically

Apologies - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 6/4/2014 9:47 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: You seem to think the Upower devs simply decided to use systemd instead of doing it themselves. In fact, they were always using code, from either systemd or pm-utils. The fact that development stopped on pm-utils is neither the fault

Re: [gentoo-user] udev 208 to 212 update, 2 questions...

2014-06-08 Thread Rich Freeman
Question 2: What is up with the last section talking about the net setup rules only with respect to systemd? OpenRC is currently still the default init system for gentoo if I'm not mistaken, so why does this comment only reference systemd, totally ignoring OpenRC users? Nothing in this news

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-power/upower with systemd

2014-06-24 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 23 Jun 2014 20:39:13 -0400 schrieb gottl...@nyu.edu: I think I had first misinterpreted the news msg, but want to be sure I do understand it correctly now. The message ends with All non-systemd users are recommended to choose between: # emerge --oneshot --noreplace 'sys-power

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

2014-10-31 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:11 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Thing is, I don't see any benefit, for myself, in systemd. If people want to use it, fine. But, if people are trying to force it upon everyone, then I will have a problem with it. It cuts both ways. Let's assume

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-17 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:11:56PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote USE=systemd simply means to enable support for systemd, not that it is running. Generally stuff like this should be a matter of configuration, not build

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-logind problem

2015-11-24 Thread covici
Alec Ten Harmsel <a...@alectenharmsel.com> wrote: > > On 2015-11-24 13:17, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > I am running systemd-226-r1 > > There's your problem ;) > > I'm really kidding. > > > and am having some strange problems with > > systemd-

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-15 Thread Marc Joliet
On Tuesday 14 June 2016 06:46:32 J. Roeleveld wrote: >On Monday, June 13, 2016 02:10:27 PM James wrote: >> wabe gmail.com> writes: >> Still, if you manage 1000 linux workstations, then systemd does have >> it's merits. > >Serious question: What makes systemd more

Re: [gentoo-user] udev -> eudev

2016-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 02:53:53 + (UTC), James wrote: > Well I have one system I need to migrate to eudev. All sorts of things > are now calling for *systemd* and I do not want that at all. > > Here is the blockers on the latest list :: > > [blocks B ] sys-fs/eu

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