Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-20 Thread wabenbau
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 04:08:15 +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > > What I also don't want is too much crap that I don't need, e.g. a > > networkmanger. Although I set USE="-networkmanager" portage wants > > to install it when I type "emerge -pv

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-20 Thread wabenbau
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 18/03/16 23:57, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > KDE 5 is absolutely nothing like KDE3. So by all means try it, but > > evaluate it on it's own terms. It's not a better KDE3, it's a whole > > different DE > > And full of bugs :-P > > Holy crap is it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Philip Webb
160318 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Alan Grimes wrote: >> Philip Webb wrote: >>> So that needs rephrasing : "Why is AG using KDE 5 ? " (smile). >>> Everything works for me using Fluxbox + some KDE 4 apps. >> The last good version of KDE was 3.5.x. Then the flood came (Qt

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Alan Grimes
Philip Webb wrote: > So that needs rephrasing : "Why is AG using KDE 5 ? " (smile). > Everything works for me using Fluxbox + some KDE 4 apps. The last good version of KDE was 3.5.x... then the flood came... (Qt 4) and all the developer started having Ideas about things that could go into the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread wabenbau
Mick wrote: > On Friday 18 Mar 2016 19:29:29 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > > What I miss most of all is the fantastic konqueror. It was way > > better than any other filemanager that I know. Of course I've > > tested the KDE4 konqueror and also dolphin but it was

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:49:44 -0500, Dale wrote: > [ebuild R] kde-apps/konqueror-15.08.3:4/15.08::gentoo > USE="bookmarks handbook svg (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB > > The hard part, getting it to run as root. KDE doesn't like things > running as root so it took a hammer and some elbow grease.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread wabenbau
Alan Grimes wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: > > > So that needs rephrasing : "Why is AG using KDE 5 ? " (smile). > > Everything works for me using Fluxbox + some KDE 4 apps. > > The last good version of KDE was 3.5.x... then the flood came... (Qt > 4) and all the developer

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:24:51 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > Using `kfmclient openProfile filemanagement` doesn't work for me (I > can't browse /root), and `sudo konqueror` doesn't work (can't connect to > X server.) Probably an environment variable not surviving the transition to root, try sudo -E

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote: > On 03/19/2016 07:56 AM, »Q« wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 04:52:22 -0500 >> Dale wrote: >> >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:51:24 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> The hard part, getting it to run as root. KDE doesn't like >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/19/2016 07:56 AM, »Q« wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 04:52:22 -0500 > Dale wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:51:24 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> >> The hard part, getting it to run as root. KDE doesn't like >> things running as root so it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Dale
waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Philip Webb wrote: >> >>> So that needs rephrasing : "Why is AG using KDE 5 ? " (smile). >>> Everything works for me using Fluxbox + some KDE 4 apps. >> The last good version of KDE was 3.5.x... then the flood came... (Qt

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 18 Mar 2016 19:29:29 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > What I miss most of all is the fantastic konqueror. It was way better > than any other filemanager that I know. Of course I've tested the KDE4 > konqueror and also dolphin but it was horrible compared to the old > konqueror. Now I'm using

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread wabenbau
Dale wrote: > waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Alan Grimes wrote: > > > >> Philip Webb wrote: > >> > >>> So that needs rephrasing : "Why is AG using KDE 5 ? " (smile). > >>> Everything works for me using Fluxbox + some KDE 4 apps. > >> The last

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:51:24 -0500, Dale wrote: > The hard part, getting it to run as root. KDE doesn't like things running as root so it took a hammer and some elbow grease. >>> sudo konqueror works here. >> This works here as a desktop shortcut. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Dale
waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Dale wrote: > >> waben...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Alan Grimes wrote: >>> Philip Webb wrote: > So that needs rephrasing : "Why is AG using KDE 5 ? " (smile). > Everything works for me using Fluxbox + some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:51:24 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> The hard part, getting it to run as root. KDE doesn't like things > >> running as root so it took a hammer and some elbow grease. > > sudo konqueror works here. > This works here as a desktop shortcut. > > kfmclient openProfile

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 04:08:15 +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > What I also don't want is too much crap that I don't need, e.g. a > networkmanger. Although I set USE="-networkmanager" portage wants to > install it when I type "emerge -pv plasma-meta". It uses the geolocation code in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread wabenbau
Philip Webb wrote: > 160318 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Philip Webb wrote: > >>> So that needs rephrasing : "Why is AG using KDE 5 ? " (smile). > >>> Everything works for me using Fluxbox + some KDE 4 apps. > >> The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Philip Webb
160318 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 17/03/16 18:00, Philip Webb wrote: AG> I tried to fix it by setting wayland, gles2 and egl to default > because they were breaking other packages. PW> Why are you using Wayland ? -- it's still largely experimental, isn't it ? NC> KDE 5 packages force the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/03/2016 05:08, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> Maybe I will try it again with KDE5. But this also depends on the >>> dependencies. :-) I'm not sure if I'm willing to install the >>> complete KDE environment for this test. >> >> KDE 5 is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread wabenbau
Dale wrote: > I still use Konqueror but I disabled some USE flags early on since I > didn't want some of the bloat. I think I had to enable some since > they were no longer a option but sort of forced. Anyway, this is the > USE flags for mine but since it is a short list,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/03/2016 22:37, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Mick wrote: > >> On Friday 18 Mar 2016 19:29:29 waben...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> What I miss most of all is the fantastic konqueror. It was way >>> better than any other filemanager that I know. Of course I've >>> tested

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread Philip Webb
160318 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Do you have installed the complete KDE4? If not, what packages > do you have installed to configure the look and feel of your KDE apps ? None that I know of. >> I use Krusader & recommend it very highly for heavy file-lifting : >> have you tried it ? -- if not,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread wabenbau
Philip Webb wrote: > 160318 waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > Do you have installed the complete KDE4? If not, what packages > > do you have installed to configure the look and feel of your KDE > > apps ? > > None that I know of. > > >> I use Krusader & recommend it very

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:49:44 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> [ebuild R] kde-apps/konqueror-15.08.3:4/15.08::gentoo >> USE="bookmarks handbook svg (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB >> >> The hard part, getting it to run as root. KDE doesn't like things >> running as root so it took a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The war continues.

2016-03-18 Thread wabenbau
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Maybe I will try it again with KDE5. But this also depends on the > > dependencies. :-) I'm not sure if I'm willing to install the > > complete KDE environment for this test. > > KDE 5 is absolutely nothing like KDE3. So by all means try it,