Re: Today's meeting, the log.

2008-02-21 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Folks; I cannot attend at 21:00 UTC today, but would gladly attend at 21:00 UTC Friday to discuss magnification. Will, if the meeting goes ahead on Friday please forward the concall number(s) if possible, thanks! Bill Willie Walker wrote: Thanks Luke! The turnout yesterday was amazing,

Re: Forming an Accessibility Steering Committee

2007-12-18 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Brian, all... My time is a bit more limited than in the past, for reviewing email, etc. However I would be honored to be part of the Committee in a 'less than central' role. I'd try and stay out of the way of the movers and shakers, but would be happy to lend suggestions on request.

Re: [g-a-devel] Status of IBM a11y

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Haneman
Peter Korn wrote: Hi Jason, As someone working for one of those small number of companies working on GNOME, Mozilla, etc. accessibility, I couldn't agree with you more. I am appreciative of the contributions IBM has made to our work - perhaps in the future we will see a resumption of

Re: [g-a-devel] Status of IBM a11y

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Haneman
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Ariel Rios wrote: I am not very familiar with the ATK/AT-SPI implementations but I am aware that these implementations are not compatible with the KDE architecture, and a general move to DBUS has been often mentioned. The GNOME Mobile Embedded Initative could be

Re: Name of Accessible (Not the Label Name)

2007-04-24 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Udayan and Evan; In the case you mention below, the assistive technology should check for the presence of the Accessibility_Text interface. In most cases (i.e. other than text entry fields, for instance), the assistive technology should expose the contents of the Text interface to the

Re: [g-a-devel] Accerciser 0.1.0 (stretch)

2007-02-27 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Peter; This is really cool, thanks a bunch. I can hardly wait to try it (sorry I didn't get a chance this week). Bill Peter Parente wrote: Accerciser is an interactive Python accessibility explorer for the GNOME desktop. It uses AT-SPI to inspect and control widgets, allowing you to

Re: Multilingual synthesis

2007-02-21 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Tomas, all; At this point in the conversation perhaps it would be useful to mention the existing ATK , AT-SPI, and gnome-speech API features which might be used to handle automatic language switching. AtkDocument and AT-SPI's Document interface include a 'documentLocale' property, which

Re: Orca and minimalist X environments (was Re: accessible routers)

2007-01-29 Thread Bill Haneman
Jason White wrote:... Does Orca work in an X environment that falls short of a full Gnome desktop? Hi Jason; orca should work OK without having a gnome session already running. However, with recent changes to at-spi there is one caveat. Since the 'atk-bridge' no longer uses bonobo-activation

Re: java access bridge

2006-12-11 Thread Bill Haneman
George Kraft IV wrote: From the Orca, OO writer and terminal thread regarding the java access bridge for GNOME... As far as I can tell, none of the distros are providing a package of the java access bridge for GNOME. I believe some folks are running a JVM that they have obtained from

Re: Orca, OO writer and terminal

2006-12-11 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi: java-access-bridge is not required by recent OpenOffice versions. I believe the dependency was phased out nearly a year ago. You will need to update your gnome-session if you have updated at-spi from CVS HEAD or the unstable 2.17 Gnome series, however. HTH Bill Jan Buchal wrote: WvdW

Re: Orca, OO writer and terminal

2006-12-09 Thread Bill Haneman
Willie Walker wrote: if I run OO writer from terminal then OO writer is not accessible. If I run OO writer from menu then works. Where is problem? Sounds like the GTK_MODULES environment variable might not be set, which is what is needed to enable accessibility in OOo. The GTK_MODULES

Re: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-08 Thread Bill Haneman
Brian Cameron wrote: ... Rather than supporting magnifier, supporting themes with larger fonts or being able to simply increase and decrease the font in the current them via hotkey is probably better than supporting the half-screen magnifier. This is because gdmgreeter is not designed to

Re: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-08 Thread Bill Haneman
David Bolter wrote: Hi Henrik, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Brian Cameron wrote: I suppose it might be possible to code an on-screen keyboard directly into GDM, but this might be more work than you think. Note GOK supports dwell mode so that it works for users who can only

Re: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-07 Thread Bill Haneman
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Hi all, Another controversial post to g-a ... I'm currently looking at GDM accessibility and it strikes me that there is a strong case for doing this without using AT-SPI. The themed version currently does not work properly with the AT-SPI features and on the

Re: eSpeak support in Orca -- what is the best way?

2006-12-02 Thread Bill Haneman
Lukas Loehrer wrote: Willie Walker writes (Re: eSpeak support in Orca -- what is the best way?): We recently looked at making a gnome-speech driver for eSpeak, but the main problem is that the eSpeak libraries have no facilities for sending samples to the audio device. Instead, it relies

Re: eSpeak support in Orca -- what is the best way?

2006-12-01 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Henrik: Perhaps the most expedient solution would be to write a basic driver layer for eSpeak, initially with gnome-speech wrapper interfaces, with the intention of moving it to Speech Dispatcher later on. The basic APIs are I hope similar enough that only a modest amount of code would

Re: yelp gok hack?

2006-11-10 Thread Bill Haneman
David Bolter wrote: Hi All, Yelp has a function called timeout_update_gok. This sounds like a temporary stop-gap that might have been forgotten. Ideally should the fix should be in mozilla (if not already)? http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=file%3Ayelp+timeout_update_gokbtnG=Search+Code

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Bill Haneman
if this works for you. If it does, we can make it a permanent part of Orca. Will On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 09:48 +, Bill Haneman wrote: Makes sense, with the caveat that if we remap CapsLock to achieve this (as we probably must, to avoid the latching behavior), then the end user will no longer

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Haneman
lazzaro wrote: I use the Capslock key as a modifyer instead of insert all the time with Jaws on laptops, and I like how it's implemented there. It appears to work with the capslock key latched or unlatched. CapsLock always latches, in every keyboard I've encountered (i.e. that's why it's

Re: Accessability Interfaces

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Haneman
Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi all Some thoughts that have been kind of troubling me over the past. There have been various postings in the past about compatability , or lack of it, with various applications. The most notable being that of Firefox just recently. In my ignorance, should the

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Haneman
Luke Yelavich wrote: ... In Windows, Jaws manages to prevent the capslock key from being latched or unlatched. To latch/unlatch, you press shift + Capslock, or press capslock twice quickly. I see. I expect that would be a hazardous and/or fragile thing to attempt on X, especially if,

Re: Accessability Interfaces

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Haneman
www.fullmeasure.co.uk http://www.fullmeasure.co.uk On 11/8/06, *Bill Haneman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi all Some thoughts that have been kind of troubling me over the past. There have been various postings

Re: Accessability Interfaces

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi David, Steve: I think there are two aspects to Steve's question. One aspect has to do with the exact API call syntax that the client uses to access AT-SPI, which I think is what you are referring to. The raw C CORBA bindings are a bit ugly (while the python ones are elegant) but don't

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Haneman
affects the 'ShiftLock' modifier; in effect CapsLock ceases to be available in such a scenario. Best regards, Bill Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: On 11/8/06, Bill Haneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see that option in the preferences dialog - you can indeed alter the way CapsLock works

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Haneman
Rich Burridge wrote: Orca doesn't care what kind of key it uses for its modifier key. It can be anything. Yes, but I think there is some agreement that finding a reasonable default modifier is a worthwhile goal. Bill If anybody wants to try using CapsLock to see if they are more

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-08 Thread Bill Haneman
Thanks Will. That clarifies things somewhat - we're using the term modifier key differently. Maybe I'll contact you offlist for info on the internal details. So does that basically mean this whole discussion of orca on laptops is moot, or at least addressed fully via

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-07 Thread Bill Haneman
Samuel Thibault wrote: Bill Haneman, le Tue 07 Nov 2006 20:15:53 +, a écrit : AltGr is one that often gets forgotten; what about that? It does appear to be a modifier key on all the systems I am aware of. Yes, but it's widely used for typing

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-07 Thread Bill Haneman
Luke Yelavich wrote: ... Well I don't think that will be an option, as some laptops don't have a right Alt, as far as I am aware, or I could be getting that mixed up with the right control key. I think you might have that confused, yes. Any non-English laptop would need AltGr for the

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-07 Thread Bill Haneman
Joanmarie Diggs wrote: Hi Bill. I am not sure I understand your point - or perhaps you are misunderstanding me. I suspect it's the former, but we'll see. :-) What I am suggesting is that we specifically _avoid_ using ShiftLock And what I am suggesting is that we

Re: [Kde-accessibility] Gnome-braille.

2006-10-19 Thread Bill Haneman
Samuel Thibault wrote: Bill Haneman, le Thu 19 Oct 2006 00:19:04 +0100, a écrit : Sorry, following up on my own email: The unicode methods we use (we need these or their functional equivalents): (easy ones first) g_ucs4_to_utf8 g_utf8_strlen g_utf8_offset_to_pointer g_utf8_get_char

Re: Ubuntu 6.0.6.1 Install

2006-10-18 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Ian! Ian Pascoe wrote: Secondly, and I think this relates to Gnupernicus as opposed to Orca although by this stage we were getting quite confused, there are lots of spin boxes relating to the different talk rates for different controls - could this be hidden behind an Advanced tab and

Re: Gnome-braille.

2006-10-18 Thread Bill Haneman
Samuel Thibault wrote: As discussed a few months ago, gnome-braille depends on - libgobject for contraction/language module management - libglib for tricky stuff like unicode handling. I don't have any objection to reworking this to remove GObject, but it makes no sense to do that without

Re: [Kde-accessibility] Gnome-braille.

2006-10-18 Thread Bill Haneman
Sorry, following up on my own email: The unicode methods we use (we need these or their functional equivalents): (easy ones first) g_ucs4_to_utf8 g_utf8_strlen g_utf8_offset_to_pointer g_utf8_get_char g_utf8_next_char g_unichar_to_utf8 (now the hard ones...) g_unichar_break_type

Re: Open Source OCR

2006-10-17 Thread Bill Haneman
Luke Yelavich wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 03:21:17AM EST, Bill Haneman wrote: Hi Folks: I just downloaded, built, and tested this OCR engine. It is really pretty good, and it was very easy to build. At the moment it is a bit limited (requires TIFF format, 8 bit depth, and doesn't

Re: Fwd: others?Fwd: Open Source OCR

2006-10-17 Thread Bill Haneman
Krister Ekstrom wrote: On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 15:26 -0400, David Poehlman wrote: there is also GOCR and Ocrad which are open source. I haven't tested any of those, but at least as it sounded from the description of GOcr, it didn't support columns nor fonts. I don't know how this

Re: Linux desktop accessibility demo - which programs should I install

2006-10-17 Thread Bill Haneman
That's interesting Tomas; Will Walker of the orca team seemed to think the problem was in Speech Dispatcher itself (as of last week). Perhaps you would contact him about it? Bill Tomas Cerha wrote: Bill Haneman napsal(a): The SpeechDispatcher API has some limitations which make

Re: Open Source OCR

2006-10-16 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Folks: I just downloaded, built, and tested this OCR engine. It is really pretty good, and it was very easy to build. At the moment it is a bit limited (requires TIFF format, 8 bit depth, and doesn't understand columns etc.) but the limitations don't seem to be in the engine, only in the

Re: Linux desktop accessibility demo - which programs should I install

2006-10-16 Thread Bill Haneman
The SpeechDispatcher API has some limitations which make the user experience with orca a little less nice - as I understand it, SpeechDispatcher doesn't support completion/progress tags within an utterance, it can only tell you when an entire utterance is complete. While I hear that espeak's

Re: Accessibilty module for colorblind people

2006-10-10 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Daniel: Colorblindness is certainly one of the more common issues that impact the usability of our visual interfaces. It's great to have you onboard to help make our desktops more usable. Enhancements that support colorblindness usually work in one of two ways; firstly, themes are

Re: Accessibilty module for colorblind people

2006-10-10 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Henrik: What he said You and Carlos put this very well. I agree with you both that this sounds like a great thing to add to gnome-mag. By the way, Carlos has recently done some very nice work to enable fullscreen magnification without requiring two X screens, so based on this new work

Re: Which programs are you using?

2006-10-06 Thread Bill Haneman
Peter Parente wrote: Hi Anna, Perhaps starting a page on the http://live.gnome.org wiki would be a good idea? I'd like to see an Accessibility wiki page (pages, but at least a starting page), particularly for projects like this. Great idea, and past time to do it I agree. Bill That way,

Re: Java-access-bridge-1.6.0 errors

2006-09-26 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Luca: Sorry not to have replied sooner. Thanks very much for the bug report. The Text interface in at-spi/idl had a couple of methods added. It looks as though one of the new interface methods wasn't added to the java bridge wrapper set. A simple solution should be to add a no-op

Re: Straw man agenda

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Haneman
Brian Cameron wrote: Willie: This agenda looks good, but here are some things I'd like to see more focus on: + There are many a11y components, and it seems like not many people understand some of them. java-access-bridge, the registry daemon, etc. It would be nice to get an overview of

Re: Orca now running on AMD64 with latest Edgy installation

2006-09-08 Thread Bill Haneman
Willie Walker wrote: Hi Roland: Glad to hear the gnome-speech thing just worked itself out without requiring mods to gnome-speech. :-) Dynamic language detection/switching is definitely an interesting thing to consider adding to Orca. Right now, however, it's not really on the core team's

Re: Orca now running on AMD64 with latest Edgy installation

2006-09-08 Thread Bill Haneman
Roland Zitzke wrote: Hi Bill, In case someone gets motivated, I think the relevant AT-SPI methods (for determining the language/locale of UI components), and gnome-speech methods (for determining the locales/langs which a TTS engine can speak) are these:

Re: selecting text in a gnome terminal

2006-09-07 Thread Bill Haneman
See bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78291 The short answer is it isn't possible, mostly because no one can agree on what the keyboard navigation sequence should be. Pretty much any key sequence will clash with some terminal-based application. However, AtkText's selection API

Re: audacity: was Ubuntu on my desktop

2006-09-06 Thread Bill Haneman
Mike/All: I think audacity uses WxWindows and not gtk+ directly. Thus stock gtk+ widgets are not being used, as I understand it, and the app is not accessible. regards Bill Mike Pedersen wrote: Hi all, Audacity offers some higher end features and is written in gtk, so it should be

Re: Software that works with Orca? - was Re: Ubuntu on my desktop

2006-09-06 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Krister: I don't know why you would need or want OCR for reading your email (unless you are talking about printed mail, through your letterbox). Thunderbird ought to be fairly good for mail reading by the time Firefox 3 ships... I think evolution is already usable with orca. best regards

Re: Can't get edgy to boot; also, Orca from powerpc cd?

2006-08-31 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Henrik: Regarding knot-2, did you pick up the recent new release of gok? We put in some exception handling to catch the XInput device error (from the wacom driver, apparently) that was making gok DOA in many 6.06 installations. best regards Bill Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Cheryl Homiak

Re: gnome-mag's memory usage

2006-08-21 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Aurelian Although I am not aware of any big memory leaks in gnome-mag, this sounds like a bug. Opening a bug in gnome bugzilla would be best, then you can post your attachments. For finding memory leaks on Linux, I highly recommend using valgrind. If you can run gnome-mag in valgrind it's

Re: [Kde-accessibility] KDE Accessibility - sorry, off topic.

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Chris: Zero-conf is of course the ideal, glad you've achieved it for SOK. I am hoping that by using Xevie (via at-spi-registryd - since Xevie only allows ONE client per session :-( and at-spi-registryd needs XEvie for its own purposes), we can change GOK so that the default out-of-the-box

Re: [Kde-accessibility] KDE Accessibility - sorry, off topic.

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Haneman
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 11:40, Olaf Jan Schmidt wrote: [ Bill Haneman ] Olaf implied that there was a concern with XEvie interfering with the core pointer. No, I meant to say that interfering with the core pointer is the intended behaviour for most use cases of on-screen keyboards

Re: [Kde-accessibility] KDE Accessibility - sorry, off topic.

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Haneman
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 12:05, Olaf Jan Schmidt wrote: [ Bill Haneman ] Actually, my point is that this affects ALL use cases of on-screen keyboards. I don't see why this should be the case. Imagine a case where an on-screen keyboard is used for entering text in another language

Re: [Kde-accessibility] KDE Accessibility - sorry, off topic.

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Olaf: On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 21:23, Olaf Jan Schmidt wrote: [ Bill Haneman ] That strikes me as a surprising statement. Of course it depends on what you mean by partially sighted. The people I am familiar with for example have light allergy. Large bright areas on the screen hurts

Re: GNOME Accessibility Team Meeting @ Boston Summit?

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Haneman
It's really great to have such broad interest in Accessibility at the Summit. I'd love to include the lab visit. I think it should be on a separate day, however, since it could take a lot of time and lead to rather wide-ranging discussions. Looks like our one day is already getting pretty full.

Re: GNOME Accessibility Team Meeting @ Boston Summit?

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Haneman
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 13:06, Willie Walker wrote: Hi All: We need to choose a day for the meeting, and develop an agenda - please log in to the wiki and add your suggestions. One think that I'd really like to present, and which fortunately I have extensive materials ready for, is a

Re: KDE Accessibility - sorry, off topic.

2006-08-16 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Olaf! I appreciate that kttsd can have many useful applications. I differ with your statement below, however: But screen readers do not help partially sighted users, users with learning difficulties, or people who simply love to have system notifications or IRC messages spoken.

Re: [Kde-accessibility] KDE Accessibility - sorry, off topic.

2006-08-16 Thread Bill Haneman
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 20:44, Olaf Jan Schmidt wrote: [ Bill Haneman ] Actually in the Windows world all of those are frequent use cases for screen readers. In conjunction with magnification or onscreen highlighting, screen readers can be especially useful for partially sighted users

Re: debian and gnopernicus

2006-07-28 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Jude: Don't use twm or icewm as window managers - for best results you'll want to install and run the Gnome desktop env which includes the metacity window manager. Starting gnome-session after startx may work for you. regards Bill On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 01:00, Jude DaShiell wrote: So far

Re: Firefox accessiblity

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
Manish: Please check the recent list archives for info on firefox work. There is also a mozilla accessibility development mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's a quotation from a recent email thread on Firefox accessibility: Yes. Firefox 1.5 or 2.0 will work better if you set GTK_MODULES

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 11:21, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill Haneman wrote: Hi Petra: In the most recent versions of Gnome, assistive technology support is on by default. The access keys idea is a reasonable one, and I think it would greatly improve the Ubuntu accessibility experience

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 11:58, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill Haneman wrote: The new onscreen keyboard does not meet the needs of many mobility-impaired users. GOK should be bundled with the LiveCD - once some configuration issues are dealt with. Do you have any specific use cases

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 12:41, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Our plan is to go ahead with the new technology and deal with the problems as they arise. If by this you mean that you will ship SOK in preference to GOK in Ubuntu, I think you are making a mistake. Bill

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 13:42, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill Haneman wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 12:41, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Our plan is to go ahead with the new technology and deal with the problems as they arise. If by this you mean that you will ship SOK

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
installing it by default. I disagree - we went to a lot of trouble to make GOK work as well as possible out of the box. That said, we felt we needed to warn end-users of potential conflicts with the core pointer, thus the warning dialogs (easily suppressed, as I have pointed out before). Bill Bill

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
with no choice. - Hide quoted text - On 24/07/06, Bill Haneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 15:10, Chris Jones wrote: ... It is possible to detect when pointer grabbing occurs so work arounds are quite possible I should think. Not as far as I can tell. X just doesn't allow

Re: Fwd: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 16:38, Chris Jones wrote: Bill Haneman said: I don't recall ever refusing to fix any corepointer issues, for instance - at the time you asked, there were multiple research efforts under way to try and address them. Maybe I put that too strongly. You stated

Re: LSR demo and a11y tools at DDC 2006

2006-07-18 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 23:59, Brett Clippingdale wrote: Linux Screen Reader (LSR) was presented at the Linux Desktop Developers' Conference today as part of a talk titled Accessibility Enablement and Usability for GTK Applications. Of particular interest to all developers is a short

Re: docked window mode in GOk and SOK

2006-06-29 Thread Bill Haneman
characters. Bill On 29/06/06, Bill Haneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading the gconf values isn't a fully robust solution, since the panel is not the only thing that might use _NET_WM_STRUTS. It's not apathy, it just that fixing this the right way would require new WM API. Bill

Re: Fixing gnome-speech

2006-06-28 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Hynek, All: I'm not sure I agree that speech engines should not do their own audio output. While I think you have identified some real problems with that approach, it's not clear that the .wav file approach has a low enough latency. If tests show that latency is not a problem, then passing

Re: docked window mode in GOk and SOK

2006-06-28 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Chris: There's no good solution to the share a dock area problem. We recommend that you don't use both top and bottom panels when running an onscreen keyboard, for this reason. The straightforward solution is to remove either the top or bottom panel, and then use that edge to dock your

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-27 Thread Bill Haneman
, and the reason you are warned not to use GOK via the system core pointer. Bill On 26/06/06, Bill Haneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 22:28, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote Chris Jones wrote: ... In other words I cannot spend the summer making gnome-a11y suitable for my needs

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-27 Thread Bill Haneman
. On 26/06/06, Bill Haneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 22:28, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Chris Jones wrote: ... In other words I cannot spend the summer making gnome-a11y suitable for my needs. What I need is a temporary work

Re: Fixing gnome-speech

2006-06-27 Thread Bill Haneman
On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 10:57, Olivier BERT wrote: I'm currently working on Speech Dispatcher backend for Orca. This bypasses the Gnome Speech layer completely. Since Speech Dispatcher offers several speech synthesizers not supported by Gnome Speech, Does Speech Dispatcher support something

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-27 Thread Bill Haneman
method must be found to solve the issue. We'll be able to help you better if you are a little more open to our suggestions. Bill Bill Haneman said: Bear in mind that ANY onscreen keyboard that uses the mouse will fail to work properly when used to pop up menus, etc. via keyboard navigation

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Chris: The answer is, don't implement sticky keys in your keyboard. You should be using the system-wide StickyKeys settings and feature instead (as GOK does). Interfering with the normal operation of the system wide setting (i.e clashing with it as your app does), is itself an accessibility

Re: [Kde-accessibility] Use of gconf key '/desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility' on KDE ?

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
users. best regards Bill On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 13:30, Ashu Sharma wrote: On 6/26/06, Bill Haneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 08:19, Ashu Sharma wrote: Hi, There was discussion about making use of ATK on KDE, rather than

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
on this aspect of gnome-a11y and fix my program so it is not an accessibility violation. I suggest you use the system gconf keys for sticky keys. regards Bill On 26/06/06, Bill Haneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris: The answer is, don't implement sticky keys in your keyboard. You should

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 23:05, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill Haneman wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 22:28, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill, is it an accessibility violation to have unusable accessibility tools? Are you going to say something helpful? OK, I should

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 22:28, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Chris Jones wrote: ... In other words I cannot spend the summer making gnome-a11y suitable for my needs. What I need is a temporary work around until after the SoC when I could find time to work on this aspect of gnome-a11y and

Gnome Accessibility - Bill Haneman will be on leave from 1 April to 1 June, 2006

2006-03-31 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Everyone: As a few of you may already be aware, I will be on a leave of absence for two months, starting immediately after today. In my absence, please direct questions regarding Gnome accessibility to the gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org, and questions specific to accessibility development

Re: Question about Orca and gnopernicus.

2006-03-29 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Satyam: In the case of gnopernicus and orca (which are the two freely available screenreaders for our graphical platform today), as Samuel said, not every user prefers a given screen reader. One of the things which orca provides, which gnopernicus does not, is comprehensive

Re: Festival vs. F-lite disk space requirements

2006-02-24 Thread Bill Haneman
Henrik: I think Flite uses the same file format. ( Will, please correct me if I'm wrong). It also requires a Java JRE, are you planning to include Java in the live CD? BTW, in the past, Java was required for OpenOffice.org accessibility, but that's not true of the latest version. Bill On

Re: Festival vs. F-lite disk space requirements

2006-02-24 Thread Bill Haneman
On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 13:09, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill Haneman wrote: Henrik: I think Flite uses the same file format. ( Will, please correct me if I'm wrong). By same format you mean the same speech files? So what is the main benefit of F-lite, a smaller memory footprint

Re: Gnome question

2006-02-21 Thread Bill Haneman
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 01:21, Davyd Madeley wrote: Quoting Dana Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Will Gnome have some method to disable Slow Keys from constantly popping up when you hold down a key for a few seconds? You can turn this off from the Keyboard Accessibility preferences dialog. As you

Re: Problem with gnopernicus and dectalk

2006-02-13 Thread Bill Haneman
On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 22:27, Luke Yelavich wrote: ... Did you specify the prefix for the gnopernicus configure script? For example ./configure --prefix=/usr? if you didn't, I have a feeling that is why it can't find the DECtalk server but test-speech can. Luke/all: gnopernicus doesn't use

Re: test-speech only works for root

2006-01-26 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Don: This certainly 'smells' like a permissions problem. I believe the Festival gnome-speech server relies on the ability to write to a particular port, perhaps 7000? I am sure someone else on the list can provide that detail. My guess is that root has write access to that port, but

Re: [Fwd: firefox error]

2006-01-24 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Ginn: Thanks for answering Naveen. Could you make sure he knows that the solution of removing GTK_MODULES is a temporary one? We are still telling accessibility users to set this variable in the environment, since they need it in order to make other important applications accessible.

Re: gnopernicus autogen.sh question

2006-01-20 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Jude: Are you sure you have gnome-common installed? Looks to me as though you are missing the 'gnome-autogen.sh' script which I believe is provided with gnome-common. Gnome-common is a dependency of ALL gnome cvs builds. Bill Jude DaShiell wrote: After having checked gnopernicus and

Re: Dummy speech driver

2006-01-17 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Pedro: While I think this has been suggested before, I think that it is a good idea; especially if it's designed to allow sending the output to a named pipe, serial port, or perhaps even convert to HTTP and send output that way. It would allow more ways to debug the speech output itself.

Re: At-SPI client and server running in different hosts

2005-12-19 Thread Bill Haneman
svs drozo wrote: Hi, I would need to set up an environment in which two different hosts have the two parts of at-spi, I mean, the clients in one of them and the server in the other, is that possible? How can I do it? Hi: If you only want the client to be on one host, and the applications

Re: Testing plan

2005-12-15 Thread Bill Haneman
Henrik/All: Sorry for re-posting the URI for the sanity-test documents, I see now that you referenced them inline. Thanks a bunch! I look forward to reading your test scheme. Bill ___ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list

Re: detailed review of GOK

2005-12-12 Thread Bill Haneman
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Hi all, I've written up a fairly detailed review of GOK here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Reviews/GOK It is meant partially as an introduction to those who don't know the program, but mainly as a critical look that can hopefully stimulate discussion and

Re: detailed review of GOK

2005-12-12 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Henrik: The reason that StickyKeys is needed is not only because of general key combinations like the one you mention (Control-Alt-X) but also because of the interaction with CapsLock, etc. In general the only way to accurately reflect what the X server will do with key events is to ask

Re: [g-a-devel] Unable to run latest CVS snapshot of orca.

2005-12-08 Thread Bill Haneman
or go through a process of killing them one by one. Will On Dec 7, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Bill Haneman wrote: Janina's right of course, just restarting the X server (or logging out!) should have solved the problem. It's probably a good idea to log out and back in after replacing a core

Re: [g-a-devel] Unable to run latest CVS snapshot of orca.

2005-12-07 Thread Bill Haneman
Janina's right of course, just restarting the X server (or logging out!) should have solved the problem. It's probably a good idea to log out and back in after replacing a core component like the at-spi-registry anyway. best regards, Bill Janina Sajka wrote: Luke Yelavich writes: On

Re: Cody's questions and Alexandra's reply

2005-11-30 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Alexandra and Cody: Ada, I think there could be some confusing aspects to your answer, or perhaps you misunderstood Cody... you said: 2. What is teh command to make gnopernicus work with gaim messenger? A: There isn't a special command for your problem. Installing a new version of

Re: [BRLTTY] Braille coding in Gnopernicus

2005-11-29 Thread Bill Haneman
remus draica wrote:... The other problem is that currently, unless I am mistaken, gnopernicus' braille tables are 8 bit tables, and gnopernicus always assumes Latin-1. That's right. Latin-2 is also 8-bit, so in theory the current gnopernicus architecture could handle this, but it

Re: gnome-panel

2005-11-29 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Julian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning, We are developing an application that allows to manipulate the main menu of GNOME desktop using some speech commands GERvoice. After making a study of the possible tools that allow the communication between two applications (the GERvoice

Re: gnopernicus concerns

2005-11-28 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Jason, Cody: About Java and the bridges: As Jason mentioned before, there are two 'java access bridges'. One is for Windows, and if you are running on Windows you will need to make sure your screen reader supports the Java Access Bridge for Windows in order for it to work. If you are

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