Re: ANTP0102I ESTAB. PAIR FAILED- DEVICES NOT IN SUSPEND

2006-07-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
What is the current state fo the devices? Issue a CQUERY. Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: Heh. Speaking of Java

2006-07-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
I'm thinking it is most likely either an installation or configuration problem. REGION size? Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SSL and IMS Connect

2006-07-20 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi, *** posted in the IMS-L listserver, but no reaction. Hence cross posted in IBM-MAIN RACF-L *** We are currently using IMS V9 and Web Application Servers on Unix that connect to IMS Connect. To ensure that only

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
Through the ISPVCALL STATUS function, I found that the system I'm on is a zArch 2064 with 4 CPUs; however, is there a way I can retrieve [snip] All that being said it could be a 2064-104, 2064-1C4, or a 2064-2C4 depending on features. You can use the command D M=CPU to find your model number.

Re: Mainframe population

2006-07-20 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
I don't suppose the attendants will carry their shops to Baltimore, that's what William asked... (could't resist). Kees. Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:54:59 -0700, George, William (DHS-ITSD) wrote: My wife and I are looking

Re: GDG in deferred roll-in status

2006-07-20 Thread Joe jeffries
Thanks guys, I feel so much better. That's why i couldn't remember the command, there isn't one. There are tons of these at our site and they are all left over from many many moons ago. IE. The one in deferred rollin state is G0049V00 whereas the (say) 2 entries are G0934V00 and G0935V00

Re: 3590E K.

2006-07-20 Thread R.S.
Rugel José wrote: Hi: I have this problem with a new tape 3590E k ( green one ) : CBR4105I No MEDIA3 scratch volumes available in library LIB3494. CBR4196D Job ZAVAZ169, drive 0D02, volser SCRTCH, error code 140169. The code 69 indicates there is no scratch volume MEDIA3,

Re: JES3 to JES2 Migration

2006-07-20 Thread Walter Marguccio
- Original Message Hi, Would anyone have a project plan for doing the above or any pointers to documentation that I would find useful when embarking on such a task? Kind Regards Mark Mark, I found the 'JES3 White Paper' from E.Jaffe very useful to understand the functionalities of

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
It's an interpreted language. And its an OO language which has somewhat more overhead than traditional non-OO languages. Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: GDG in deferred roll-in status

2006-07-20 Thread R.S.
Bruce Black wrote: Can't remember the command to remove the entry from the base but keep the dataset or, for another example get rid altogether. a DEFERRED generation is not really part of the base. In the catalog, there is a GDG sphere record for the base, with all the generations

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
Then the question becomes: Does the JVM tell the z/OS dispatcher move the work from the zAAP to a general CPU while doing a JNI call? Or does it leave it on the zAAP? The JVM marks the task as being zAAP eligible or non-eligible. The dispatcher puts zAAP eligible tasks on the zAAP work unit

Re: JES3 to JES2 Migration

2006-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Walter Marguccio wrote: I found the 'JES3 White Paper' from E.Jaffe very useful to understand the functionalities of both JES, and to see if such migration is worth. I did a presentation some years ago at a customer site here in Germany who wanted to migrate to JES2, too. Eventually, they

RES: JES3 to JES2 Migration

2006-07-20 Thread Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Walter Marguccio wrote: I found the 'JES3 White Paper' from E.Jaffe very useful to understand the functionalities of both JES, and to see if such migration is worth. I did a presentation some years ago at a customer site here in Germany who wanted to migrate to JES2, too. Eventually, they

The 1% Rule

2006-07-20 Thread Bill Richter
Interesting. IBM-MAIN postings probably follow this rule. http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,,1823959,00.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: ANTP0102I ESTAB. PAIR FAILED- DEVICES NOT IN SUSPEND

2006-07-20 Thread JC Jung
Hi, Peter Attached is the command output of CQUERY and D M=DEV(). Please take a look! Much appreciate it in advance. JC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GDG in deferred roll-in status

2006-07-20 Thread John Kington
Joe, IE. The one in deferred rollin state is G0049V00 whereas the (say) 2 entries are G0934V00 and G0935V00 This could happen if G0049V00 was restored by DFSMSdss after it had rolled out of the GDG and the number of generations was already at the limit or the TGTGDS parameter was set or allowed

Re: JES3 to JES2 Migration

2006-07-20 Thread Clark Morris
On 20 Jul 2006 01:38:32 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: - Original Message Hi, Would anyone have a project plan for doing the above or any pointers to documentation that I would find useful when embarking on such a task? Kind Regards Mark Mark, I found the 'JES3 White

Re: JES3 to JES2 Migration

2006-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Clark Morris wrote: Yesterday, I read that a new NJE function will be available only in JES2. The JES3 folks have yet to learn that if they are going to justify their higher cost, they have to provide virtually all of the function JES2 does plus the unique JES3 function. I like a lot of the

Re: GDG in deferred roll-in status

2006-07-20 Thread John Kington
Tom, However, there is a flag in the NVR that says I am a deferred generation (probably in the catalog as well) and I don't know what trouble that might cause later. Wouldn't that be the same flag, Bruce? As I understand it, the BCS just points to the volume and everything else is kept in

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Craddock, Chris
Radoslaw writes The memory is not unique design. There are regular DIMMs inside the book. High quality, ECC, good brand, but still same technology as in PC. Memory controllers are probably completely different, but the back-end (DIMMs) are not. The PARTS that are used in the box are pretty

Re: ANTP0102I ESTAB. PAIR FAILED- DEVICES NOT IN SUSPEND

2006-07-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
JC, I may be missing something but your inital question was about device C5A9 and your CQUERY is for device D7FB. Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread R.S.
Craddock, Chris wrote: Radoslaw writes The memory is not unique design. There are regular DIMMs inside the book. High quality, ECC, good brand, but still same technology as in PC. Memory controllers are probably completely different, but the back-end (DIMMs) are not. The PARTS

Re: Why is z series so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread john gilmore
What follows is taken from discussion of the MVCL instruction in the current Principles of Operation: | | As part of the execution of the instruction, the values | of the two length fields are compared for the setting | of the condition code, and a check is made for | destructive overlap of the

Re: Why is z series so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why is z series so CPU poor? snip Architectures are extraordinarily difficult to compare unless

Re: GDG in deferred roll-in status

2006-07-20 Thread Bruce Black
Somethings, like the SMS classes are stored in BOTH the catalog and VVDS. I don't recall if the GDG flag is among them (I'm at home now, no references) now that I am at the office, I verified that there is an attribute byte that is both in the catalog and the NVR (if it is SMS) for GDGs. It

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Bruce Black
There are quite a few reasons, rather than just one single one. The biggie IMO is that z architecture is demonically complex to implement in silicon. It has always amazed me that IBM is able to put out a new processor every year or two with little or no hardware logic errors. I know from

Re: ANTP0102I ESTAB. PAIR FAILED- DEVICES NOT IN SUSPEND

2006-07-20 Thread Bruce Black
What is bizzare is that the ANTP0102I message is clearly documented to apply to MODE(RESYNC) which requires that the pair be in SUSPEND state, but you clearly specified MODE(COPY).Sounds like an IBM bug, either the message is issued incorrectly or it has another undocumented meaning. I

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Kuredjian, Michael
How do we know the number of hardware design errors? With IA32, it's easier to discover these problems because the CPU is used by many people under many operating systems. IBM designs the OS and CPU, making it much easier to cover up any problems that do exist. -Original Message-

LPALST, Duplicate Modules, and Alias Question

2006-07-20 Thread Ken Porowski
I have an LPALST concatenation PRODUCT.LPALIB SYS1.LPALIB In PRODUCT.LPALIB is MODULE1 (no alias) In SYS1.LPALIB is MODULE1 with alias ALIAS1 After IPL (with CLPA of course) I can get to MODULE1 but not to ALIAS1. Because MODULE1 is a duplicate I expect to get it from

Re: FINDIMBD Tool (was Re: z/OS 1.7 VSAM)

2006-07-20 Thread Rex Pommier
I'm hoping Mark Thomen is monitoring the list this morning! :-) I need to resurrect an old post. I'm running FINDIMBD and am seeing something somewhat disturbing. I'm looking for catalogs that have the IMBED parameter on them. Here is the JCL I'm running. // EXEC PGM=FINDIMBD

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
=== -Original Message- From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/20/2006 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

z/Architecture design errors

2006-07-20 Thread john gilmore
Michael Kuredjian writes | How do we know the number of hardware design errors? With IA32, it's easier to | discover these problems because the CPU is used by many people under many | operating systems. IBM designs the OS and CPU, making it much easier to cover up | any problems that do

Re: LPALST, Duplicate Modules, and Alias Question

2006-07-20 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
But would the system even load MODULE1 from SYS1.LPALIB into the LPA being that the module is there from the PRODUCT library? My guess is no. If that is the case, no module, by extension, no alias to the module because there wouldn't be a module for it to alias to. Just a guess. Rex

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Bruce Black
How do we know the number of hardware design errors? With IA32, it's easier to discover these problems because the CPU is used by many people under many operating systems. IBM designs the OS and CPU, making it much easier to cover up any problems that do exist. IA32??? Nothing in the OS is

Re: z/990 and MP effect

2006-07-20 Thread Gerhard Adam
I'm wondering if anyone has any insight into this issue of MP effect differences with the z/990 z/9 book designs. In particular, it is well known that there is a cost associated with adding CP's because of the additional communication/coordination overhead, however ... how has this changed

Re: LPALST, Duplicate Modules, and Alias Question

2006-07-20 Thread Ken Porowski
I guess the question could be rephrased as Are the alias(s) only loaded with the base module and an alias entry itself ignored? -Original Message- Pommier, Rex R. But would the system even load MODULE1 from SYS1.LPALIB into the LPA being that the module is there from the PRODUCT

Re: sort and dcollect

2006-07-20 Thread Frank Yaeger
berwatt wrote: With idcams/dollect, i use : SORT FIELDS=COPY INCLUDE COND=(9,2,CH,EQ,C'D ') OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(79,1,BI,EQ,B'1...'), BUILD=(1,4,29,44,C'IS',121,6)), IFTHEN=(WHEN=(79,1,BI,EQ,B'.1..'), BUILD=(1,4,29,44,C'PS',121,6)),

Re: GDG in deferred roll-in status

2006-07-20 Thread Bruce Black
Where is the content of the BCS documented? Unfortunately, nowhere. There was the infamous Catalog Diagnosis Reference which had catalog and VVDS layouts but the last version was for MVS/XA many years ago, before SMS. I believe that the SMS class names and this SMS attribute byte are the

Re: z/Architecture design errors

2006-07-20 Thread Kuredjian, Michael
I didn't see much cynicism in my comment, although that may be the result of being jaded by my experience with PC manufacturers and their reluctance to admit and correct problems. I'm very used to both hardware and software manufacturers ignoring obvious problems in their products. I may have

Re: z/Architecture design errors

2006-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Kuredjian, Michael wrote: I may have mis-used the term cover-up. What I meant was that they[IBM] could release software patches that specifically avoid making use of broken circuits in silicon. However, I wasn't aware that mainframe developers routinely make use of micro-assembly

Re: Internet Service Retrieval

2006-07-20 Thread Crispin Hugo
I have been using this for the last 4-5 weeks on 5 different z/OS 1.7 systems with no problems at all. I use to get all the service I want or just a PTF. Feel free to contact on the address below, but remember I am in the UK. Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4

Re: [Fwd: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64)]

2006-07-20 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Actually the terminology is much more ambiguous than that. Register size, address size, bus size within CPU, bus size to memory, bus size to peripherals, could all be different bit widths, and physical hardware register sizes don't have to match the register sizes of the hardware

SMPE V3.3 GIMGTPKG

2006-07-20 Thread Ruegsegger, Jeff
Has anyone used internet delivery for a zOS ServerPac? I've downloaded the CustomPac Dialog and am trying to receive my order. The GIMGTPKG will transfer a few datasets but croaks in the middle. I restart the job and it xfers a few more and croaks... Always croaks with TYPE I

Re: Internet Service Retrieval

2006-07-20 Thread Rugen, Len
Use BIG region, like 256M. Make sure your exits allow you to really get it. If you STEPLIB, make sure the HFS/ZFS parts are at the same SMP/E level, it won't run out of MIGLIB with mixed levels, but everything else I trided WILL run out of MIGLIB as before. Add a SYSPRINT DD and look for

Re: 64 bits is a really big number!

2006-07-20 Thread john gilmore
Leif Rundberget (as quoted by Joel C. Ewing) wrote: | Be careful with like terms between the PC(intel) world and the mainframe | world. When someone says they have a 64-bit Intel server (Intel, | Solaris, AMD, etc.), it does not mean that the server can access an | address 64-bits long, the

Re: Internet Service Retrieval

2006-07-20 Thread B Sysprog
What level of SMP are you using? I do not steplib. The region size did not help. Thanks, BK From: Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Internet Service Retrieval Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:08:14 -0500

Re: Internet Service Retrieval

2006-07-20 Thread Rugen, Len
34.07 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Sysprog Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Internet Service Retrieval What level of SMP are you using? I do not steplib. The region size did

Re: Internet Service Retrieval

2006-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:33:34 -0400, B Sysprog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What level of SMP are you using? I do not steplib. The region size did not help. Thanks, BK I am at 34.10.Did you review the PSP buckets when you installed SMP/E 3.4? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems

Abend -407 in Tivoli Decision Support Ver 1.6.0 data Collection Job

2006-07-20 Thread Ale Eba
Hello List, My current environment is Z/OS V 1.7 and DB2 V 7.1 I am migrating from Tivoli Decision Support for Z/OS Version 1.5.1 to TDS 1.6.0. My problem is when I run data collection job I get a -407 abend . SQLSTATE is 23502 (An insert or update value is null, but the column cannot

Re: z/Architecture design errors

2006-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
The mainframe is very different from the PC in this regard. You might find the chapter on Machine Check Handling in the POO to be interesting. Mainframes are designed with extensive error detection and recovery capabilities. z/OS records error information to LOGREC to assist in fixing

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:45:37 -0400, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are quite a few reasons, rather than just one single one. The biggie IMO is that z architecture is demonically complex to implement in silicon. It has always amazed me that IBM is able to put out a new processor

Re: 64 bits is a really big number!

2006-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:29:48 +, john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Higher fetch width is good, but it can have odd side effects. There were System/360 models for which Load Halfword (LH) was slower than Load (L) not just because of sign propagation but also because LH fetched four or

Re: Heh. Speaking of Java

2006-07-20 Thread Jon Brock
I don't think so, but I will probably try adjusting the REGION size to make sure. Jon snip I'm thinking it is most likely either an installation or configuration problem. REGION size? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

The 1% Rule

2006-07-20 Thread Phil Payne
Over 100,000 pageviews on my site in the last 12 months and just five emails about it. The lurker/poster ratio is well known to anyone who's been a sysop, moderator or administrator on a public forum. 100:1 is pretty good - it's usually worse than that. CompuServe was fun because you could

Re: 64 bits is a really big number!

2006-07-20 Thread Charles Mills
I clearly remember the first (L faster than LH on some machines) but can't comment on the second (64 v. 32). Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

ICSF Co-Processors

2006-07-20 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, I have a question. I have 2 lpars that are sharing the crypto processors in the cpu. Usage domain is 1 and 0 respectively. Is there any reason why only 3 come up on the z/os lpar and 4 come up on the z/OS.e lpar? There are no start up errors on either system that I can see and it has me

Re: ICSF Co-Processors

2006-07-20 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Check the crypto config on the image profile. I would guess that you don't have 0 checked on the candidate list and/or online list. If the candidate list is not checked, I think you have to reactivate the LPAR to add it. Richard Ward, Mike S wrote: Hello all, I have a question. I have 2 lpars

Re: Heh. Speaking of Java

2006-07-20 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:09:25 -0400, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a copy of the stack trace from the Tomcat issue, and I am taking it up with some people who should be able to point me in the right direction. I'm thinking it is most likely either an installation or configuration

Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor?

2006-07-20 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
== -Original Message- From: Gerhard Postpischil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/20/2006 3:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Why is zSeries so CPU poor? Jeffrey D. Smith wrote: When TRAP2/TRAP4 was first

Re: Info-zip on Z/OS 1.6 and up

2006-07-20 Thread Brian Westerman
Thanks, That was the original question. Most of our clients use PKZIP so (originally) it was a question of whether or not it was a problem with the INFO-ZIP software or the installation or the method of transfer. In this case, it turned out to be that we were trying to take a DASD volume

Re: Mainframe population

2006-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
John, Up there is probably Delaware.. the Credit card company(s) all seem to like the legal system there. Ed On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shane On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 09:54 -0700, George,

Re: z/Architecture design errors

2006-07-20 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I think you mis-interpreted John's remarks. He didn't say anything about mainframe developers extensively writing and testing microcode instructions (which is not a documented user interface), but instead extensively writing and testing z-Architecture assembler code (with the High Level

Program Call (PC) routine in AMODE(64)

2006-07-20 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
Greetings, What is the earliest z/OS level that will tolerate ETCRE (Entry Table Create) that has the extended addressing mode (ETDEAM) bit set? Thanks in advance Jeffrey D. Smith Farsight Systems Corporation 24 BURLINGTON DR LONGMONT, CO 80501 303-774-9381 direct 303-709-8153 cell 303-484-6170

Re: Mainframe population

2006-07-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
The greater Washington, D.C., area should probably get a nomination as well. Yes, many people include Baltimore in that equation. :-) - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries Tokyo (Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific) E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]