Hi Folks,
I am a long time user of Family Tree Maker and decided to give Legacy a try
as so many have told me that it is the best. There are considerable
differences between the two programs and I would like to hear any
suggestions on what you think is the best way to aquaint myself with the
- Original Message -
From: Jenny M Benson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New User of Legacy seeking advice
Colin Liddell wrote
Any suggestions on how I can improve my knowledge of Legacy
stuck I can ask on the List.{;-)
Colin Liddell
- Original Message -
From: ronald ferguson
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New User of Legacy seeking advice
Colin,
Welcome.
In my experience the best
.
Rich in LA CA
--- Colin Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jenny M Benson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New User of Legacy seeking
advice
to
look in the help files that I hadn't thought about.
When all else fails, there's always this list! (One of Legacy's best user
resources.)
Regards,
Penny in Texas
- Original Message -
From: Colin Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 5:46 AM
Subject
people.
Glen Ballard
P.S. Don't forget to post your messages to the list in Plain text.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin
Liddell
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
are using = that
could be a problem. FTM version? Legacy version?
Leon Chapman
From: Colin Liddell
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New User of Legacy seeking advice
Hi Penny in Texas,
There seem to be a number of people on this list that have moved over from
FTM, I am beginning
.)
I'm still finding out where all the buttons and hootchits are that make the
bells and whistles on Legacy do their thing, but it's not so difficult as to
kill the fun.
Penny who thinks you better enjoy that sun before winter sets in!
- Original Message -
From: Colin
User of Legacy seeking advice
I would give it 48 hours before feeling ignored. Some
people may only access the internet at work or only
not at work.
Rich in LA CA
--- Colin Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Rich,
I wrote to a chap in my State whose name
]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colin
Liddell
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New User of Legacy seeking advice
Hi Penny in Texas,
There seem to be a number of people on this list that have moved over from
FTM, I am
Ron,
Thank you for the answers to my queries, much appreciated.
Colin Liddell
- Original Message -
From: ronald ferguson
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New User of Legacy seeking advice
Colin,
1. Yes you
Hi folks,
Many years ago when I first started researching my family I kept the files
of the different branches seperated as backup then was to floppy disc which
held 1.44Mb and each branch would fit on one floppy.
With today's technology, ie. Cds, DVDs and USB backup drives there is no
finds and delete what you
don't want to keep.
I hope that this helps.
Regards
Anne
NSW
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin
Liddell
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:44 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merging family files
I have just merged two file in Legacy and then ran Check/Repair on the
combined file. The error log gives me the MRIN #229. How do I find this
record.
I know when I am looking for a person associated to a RIN#, I press G and
then type in the RIN# b ut what do I go with MRIN.
Colin.
@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Finding person associated to MRIN number
Click on the Marr List icon (next to the Name List icon). Then type
in the MRIN number (229) in the MRIN field at the top.
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Colin Liddell
Has Legacy ever considered putting out a modified version that suited the UK,
Australia and NZ?
I know The Master Genealogist team did this a few years ago due to similar
problems in their program.
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: ronald ferguson
To:
).
--
Margaret
PS - Please turn off HTML when posting ;-}
On Behalf Of Colin Liddell
Sent: Sunday, 4 May 2008 5:30 p.m.
...
I now have another associated problem. This file info came from another
family member and the husband's surname is unknown and that was written in
where his surname
person associated to MRIN number
Click on the Marr List icon (next to the Name List icon). Then type
in the MRIN number (229) in the MRIN field at the top.
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Colin Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have just merged two file in Legacy and then ran Check
to a name, any name will do -
aldja;dghagh - then it will allow you to delete.
--
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
Colin Liddell wrote:
Ron,
I don't get that option when I right click in his main panel, all I
get are two options
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin
Liddell
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:44 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merging family files, advantages/disadvantages
Hi folks,
Many years ago when I first started researching my family I kept the
files
of the different branches
as a starting point, because that's a way to
get my ancestors as well as my husband's in the same report.
Dede Holden
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Colin Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thank you Elizabeth, I have taken this advice also given by others on
the Group and I am now in the process
Thanks Heather, sounds clear to me.
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Heather Stovold
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merging family files, advantages/disadvantages
I also use my oldest child.
In Legacy, you
for into
that field to jump to the record you're looking for.
Kris
On Sat, 03 May 2008 23:50:13 -0500, Colin Liddell ca
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just merged two file in Legacy and then ran Check/Repair on the
combined file. The error log gives me the MRIN #229. How do I find this
record.
I
Ron,
Thank you for this info, I will check it out and use it next time,
Colin
- Original Message -
From: Ron Taylor
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Finding person associated to MRIN number
Colin,
Right
I just found that one too.{;-)
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Jenny M Benson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Finding person associated to MRIN number
Kris wrote
There might be an faster, better, easier
).
Elizabeth
Colin Liddell wrote:
Thank you Elizabeth, I have taken this advice also given by others on
the Group and I am now in the process of merging all my files and what
a process it is too.
I note you mention using your oldest child as a starting point for
relationship
What is going on?
I have received 26 copies of this e-mail!
The first copy arrived at 1710hrs and the 26th arrived at 2120hrs.
Has anyone else receive multiple copies of this e-mail.
Colin in Brisbane.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Reg,
I have e-mailed you personally twice now about the Brisbane User Group you
suggested and still have not had a reply.
Don't you answer e-mails addressed to you personally?
Colin in Brisbane.
- Original Message -
From: Reg SHERLOCK
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
That would depend on what package you paid for.
- Original Message -
From: Michelle Crosby
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] release of V. 7
For those of use that purchased V. 6 on line will we be getting the CD/DVD
MessageThe paid version TreePad Pro is much better and not all that
expensive!
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Tim Rosenlof
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:23 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What Happened With Rootsweb Transfer to Legacy
I
Sherry,
Are you saying that there is no way to edit the registry in Vista to change
the installation folder?
If so, another reason for me not to change over from XP Pro.{;-)
Colin who likes to put his programs where he wants and not where Windows say
they have to go!
- Original Message
I have a friend to whom I recommended Legacy, I suggested he use the free
version for a while to see if it would do what he required.
After looking at the type of reports available in Legacy compared to FTM and
PAF he found he could not replicate the All in One Report in the free
version of
correspondence.
Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin
Liddell
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Legacy Charting
Sherry,
Are you saying that there is no way to edit
Ron,
Many thanks for that, I thought I had had a fairly thorough look but
believed I may have missed something.
I will have to keep my fingers crossed that Charting puts out a version with
an All in Report.
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: ronald ferguson
To:
to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin
Liddell
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 3:35 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] All in One Report.
I have a friend to whom I
A little program called System and Internet Washer does the trick.
www.ewasher.net/
$34-95 for the latest version and Free for the earlier version!
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Robert57P via Gmail
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:24 PM
This link worked fine for me, maybe your firewall (if you have one) is not
allowing you to access this link?
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Martell
To: Legacy User Group
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:13 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] What's New in Legacy video
Nothing happens
Interesting. I received my V7 CD and hard copy of the manual last
week but there was no flyer in there about a set of CDs for $32.95.
Would you give me more information on this offer please, ie. which CDs were
on offer for this price?
Colin in a wet Brisbane.
- Original Message
here:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Videos.asp
I've bought them (both sets) and gone through some. Very well done.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Colin Liddell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:25 AM
And it also reminds you of your age when you married.{:-)
At first I thought it was telling me how long I had been married.{;-))
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Wendy Howard
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]
I have just been on the Gould Genealogy website (the people who sell all
things genealogical) and they are advertising version 7 of Legacy.
The interesting thing is they speak of the Australian/New Zealand version
which is supposed to be on the market in July.
I posted a query on the Group
, Australia
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin
Liddell
Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2008 8:37 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy V7 Australian/NZ Version
I have just been on the Gould Genealogy website (the people who sell
Australian/NZ Version
Colin Liddell wrote
The following is the advert on Gould's website.
Legacy 7 is Released
It's been a long time coming, but Legacy 7 has finally been released.
We have received stock of both the program and the upgrade, and are
taking orders for the Australia/New Zealand
Others on this group have mentioned they are receiving duplicate messages
and today I find I am now receiving the same, something that does not happen
on any other List to which I am subscribed.
Colin.
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Hi Tracy,
Sorry to get you all impatient.{:-)
I had another look at Gould's website and found with further inspection that an
Australian/N.Z. version only meant you get some Australian/N.Z. Cds in the
deal, an off that I will not be taking up.
As I have commented in other posts, the wording on
I am a new user of Legacy and still finding my way. I have come across a
small problem and wondered how others would handle it.
I have just found my ggg grandfather Joseph THOMAS and his wife Grace in the
English 1891 Census living in Hackney, London with their daughter Emily and
husband
- Original Message -
From: Jenny M Benson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census BMD Name changes
Colin Liddell wrote
My question is; how do I handle the different spellings of his surname?
Do I make
- Original Message -
From: Jenny M Benson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census BMD Name changes
Colin Liddell wrote
My father was Baptised Archibald George but was known all his life as
George
I would reckon it was written tongue in cheek.{;-)
Colin in a cooler Brisbane
- Original Message -
From: Marilyn Brenk
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 rumours
Does anyone else realize that there will
It would appear we are getting one for each e-mail received from the List,
just delete them, no doubt the problem will be fixed in due course!
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:18 PM
Subject:
I don't understand why it should take that long to download, the file is
only just over 2.3Mb in size. To my way of thinking it should take just over
20 minutes at your download speed.
Colin in a warm Brisbane.
--
- Original Message -
From: Carl Cox
To:
- Original Message -
From: Mike Fry
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error opening database--could not lock
fileflash drive
jmglover wrote:
This is the message I get when I try to save the Legacy file
- Original Message -
From: Hope Bagot Bees
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:59 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Copying from one file to another
I am trying to compare two different databases, using the split screen.
When I move from one screen to
OK it was worth an ask.{;-)
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Hope Bagot Bees
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Copying from one file to another
No, definitely completely different files.
Colin Liddell wrote
- Original Message -
From: jmglover
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error opening database--could not lock
fileflash drive
Hi Colin,
I should have explained myself better, apologies. I did mean
Subject: [LegacyUG] Users Group in Brisbane??
Hi Colin,
A Legacy Users Group in Brisbane would be wonderful. I've been using
Legacy for a few years, but what I know is 'dangerous'. A lot of these posts
leave my mouth gaping, as to what can be done. I don't understand the value
of the
- Original Message -
From: Karen Hughes
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Users Group in Brisbane??
Colin Liddell wrote:
Subject: [LegacyUG] Users Group in Brisbane??
Hi Colin,
A Legacy Users Group
An interesting response Sherry, all the Lists I belong to complain when
anyone TOP POSTS. They insist that by bottom posting it is all in the
correct sequence and you can follow the replies down the page from others.
But if it is TOP POSTING you require here, I will follow.
A bit like Lumpers
to be there, work permitting!
Duration - officially or unofficially? :) We've been known to go for hours!
Feel free to come and go as you need! Usually by 12 everyone is hungry
but if you need to leave earlier that's fine.
Cheers
Karen.
Colin Liddell wrote:
- Original Message - From: Karen
Robyn,
This website should answer your question.
http://www.hokianga.co.nz/Feature.cfm?WPID=208
Good Luck,
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: RobinH
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] More countries
That's of
/index.aspx),
probably neither are the one Robin has in mind.
Wendy
Kaiwaka, New Zealand (south of Rawene)
- Original Message -
*From:* Colin Liddell cap...@optusnet.com.au
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Sent:* 01/26/2009 8:55:16 PM +1300
*Subject:* [LegacyUG
/
I have left the previous messages so that everyone can follow this.
Kia Ora tatou
Robin Hoare
Rawene
~~~
Colin Liddell wrote:
Wendy,
Herd's Point is on the south side of Hokianga Harbour and is now known
as Rawene.
Colin
Do you mean you have version 1.1 of FTM and you want to convert it to Gedcom
or that you don't have FTM v1.1 and have been given a file from that version
that you want converted?
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: blbrown_teac...@live.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
So what you do is change the drive letter on your Pen drive to say R which
should be a letter that would not normally be used when plugging in your Pen
drive. That way when you plug it into different computers the drive letter
will stay the same. QED.{;-)
Colin.
- Original Message -
- Original Message -
From: Todd Carnes
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BASIC Cleanup
- Original Message -
From: Colin Liddell cap...@optusnet.com.au
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent
/2009 2:49:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cap...@optusnet.com.au writes:
- Original Message -
From: Todd Carnes
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BASIC Cleanup
- Original Message -
From: Colin Liddell
Message -
From: Colin Liddell cap...@optusnet.com.au
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BASIC Cleanup
So what you do is change the drive letter on your Pen drive to say R
which should be a letter that would
We have two Territories as well and Tasmania.{;-)
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Laurence E Stephenson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geo locations
Art Seddon wrote:
Minor problem here - I know that Canada
Charles those files are associated with Photoshop, version 6 in particular I
think.
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Charles.Brasell
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Run Time Error 5
Phil,
I was a bit distressed
John,
First my apologies to the list for a non Legacy topic but I think this may
have something to do with the problem.
I have no wish to start a discussion on which is the best anti virus program
but from my observations I have found Nortons cause more problems than they
fix and if it was
Ron,
This is my last word on this as no doubt there will be a complaint about it
being off topic.
If you look at the third paragraph in my e-mail you will note I mention
stripping the Registry of Nortons. The problem is that you never get it all,
they seem to have the ability to insert
The same way you sent this one.
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Bill Rhodes
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:20 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Question
I just signed up. How do I post questions to the group?
Bill Rhodes
Legacy User Group
- Original Message -
From: Mike Fry
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RINs showing up incorrectly in INDEX and SEARCH for 3
women's married names
ronald ferguson wrote:
As a last resort you could try
] On Behalf
Of Colin Liddell
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:56 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Adopted Child
After some research on the family I discovered that the child was the wife's
sister's son (her nephew) and the wife adopted him after the deaths of their
husbands who both died
...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Colin Liddell
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:02 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Child
Hi Angela,
Many thanks for this info, I will do as you say but will leave the adopted
parents as the preferred couple as he took their name
I have a family in which the last child was adopted. I went in to the
Children's settings and marked her as adopted in relationship to Father and
Mother.
When I run a Potential Problem Report it shows the child as being born more
than 20 years after the parents marriage.
The mother would have
PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted child
Colin Liddell wrote
I have a family in which the last child was adopted. I went in to the
Children's settings and marked her as adopted in relationship to Father
and Mother.
When I run a Potential Problem Report it shows the child as being
I have the Deluxe version and I had a look at what you suggested and I am
still only allowed three tags!
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Bert van Kootwijk
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tags showing
You
three in Familyview. In the
Individual Informationscreen you can see all 9 tags.
You can read all about tags in the Help-files.
Bert
- Original Message -
From: Colin Liddell cap...@optusnet.com.au
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday 22 August 2009 14:28
You will not regret the move Bill, I too gave up on FTM and find Legacy a
much better program!
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: William H. Boswell
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:58 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] PDF Manual Available?
I never put any program on C:, all my programs are installed on another
partition (in my case D:) and I never have any problems.
Legacy installed there without a hitch.
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: Sherry/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September
Ron,
I agree and that is how all my programs are installed, Legacy included.
Colin.
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- Original Message -
From: ronald ferguson
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:25 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Icons on individual screen
John,
I too would be interested to know which software you use to create these
charts, please contact me off list if it is not Legacy.
Colin.
- Original Message -
From: CE Wood
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:06 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG]
I am in the process of merging two files and have a number of persons who
married twice.
In the Merging two Individuals Window I have as an example, John SMITH in
the left hand pane and John SMITH on the right hand pane.
John in the left is married to Mary Jones and they have four children.
- Original Message -
From: Jenny M Benson
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Files
Colin Liddell wrote
I am in the process of merging two files and have a number of persons who
married twice
- Original Message -
From: Dennis M. Kowallek
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Files
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:45:03 +1000, Colin Liddell
cap...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
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