Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-03 Thread Donna Jones
One of the problems with it ... a lot of internal folks had a hard time figuring out why what was on the screen was not what was coming out of their printer. LOL! I take it, by internal folks you mean faculty types with, as one would expect, an education somewhat beyond a high school diploma.

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-03 Thread Jesse Rodgers
One of the problems with it ... a lot of internal folks had a hard time figuring out why what was on the screen was not what was coming out of their printer. LOL! I take it, by internal folks you mean faculty types with, as one would expect, an education somewhat beyond a high school diploma.

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-03 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
There is a few PHP (and php+perl/etc) things out there that do html to pdf but none of them are quite right. One will find that they need to spend a lot of time tweaking their output and if you are printing with complex floats even add additional markup to compensate for bugs. So thats not

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-03 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: There is a few PHP (and php+perl/etc) things out there that do html to pdf but none of them are quite right. One will find that they need to spend a lot of time tweaking their output and if you are printing with complex floats even add additional markup to compensate

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-03 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
Rob O'Rourke wrote: Jixor - Stephen I wrote: There is a few PHP (and php+perl/etc) things out there that do html to pdf but none of them are quite right. One will find that they need to spend a lot of time tweaking their output and if you are printing with complex floats even add additional

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-03 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12/2/2006 09:15 PM, Jesse Rodgers wrote: ... a lot of internal folks had a hard time figuring out why what was on the screen was not what was coming out of their printer. Some people got really upset. They don't mind the click to a print version but the auto-format on print just freaks some

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-02 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/1/06, Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the best way to create serious (from a design-for-print standpoint) web-to-print systems is to install a php-based pdf generator, because at the end of the day no matter how sophisticated web technologies get, printing from within the

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-02 Thread Jesse Rodgers
After browsing some favored CSS sites, some by Standards Evangelist, there seems to be a decline in the use of print styles. Has some movement escaped my research? The University of Waterloo has print CSS that removes the left navigation and changes the layout to 100% from a fixed pixel

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-02 Thread Gene Falck
Hi Jesse, You wrote: The University of Waterloo has print CSS ... ... not printing something that is totally useless on paper - navigation, search box, etc. One of the problems with it ... a lot of internal folks had a hard time figuring out why what was on the screen was not what was coming

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Barney Carroll
CK wrote: Hi, After browsing some favored CSS sites, some by Standards Evangelist, there seems to be a decline in the use of print styles. Has some movement escaped my research? Decline? There are only two truly decent print styles I've ever seen, ala and bbc news. Every wonderful article

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Raphael Martins
Look at http://www.tsa.ind.br they have print styles, and also a php print preview, using the print CSS. Barney Carroll escreveu: CK wrote: Hi, After browsing some favored CSS sites, some by Standards Evangelist, there seems to be a decline in the use of print styles. Has some movement

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Barney Carroll
Raphael Martins wrote: Look at http://www.tsa.ind.br they have print styles, and also a php print preview, using the print CSS. The preview looks decent but the php causes my browser to tell me that 'the page was replaced while you were trying to print it'... Google uses a similar process

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Barney Carroll
The preview looks decent but the php causes my browser to tell me that 'the page was replaced while you were trying to print it'... Google uses a similar process to decent effect - the same policy of just printing the main frame content with the logo and title pasted in at the top. I

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Look at http://www.tsa.ind.br they have print styles, and also a php print preview, using the print CSS. I did that on my site years ago using ASP to find out *later* that browsers already had a Print Preview option :-) --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Raphael Martins
The print preview uses my print styles...but some users don´t even look at it, because of the page´s colours and images. :D Thierry Koblentz escreveu: Look at http://www.tsa.ind.br they have print styles, and also a php print preview, using the print CSS. I did that on my site years ago

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Chris Price
I have intended to build as many of my websites as I can that have printer friendly pages by using print styles. I have a couple of sites that I am particularly pleased with: http://escendency.com/study1.html This page prints out the content of the links that open as popup windows.

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Niels Fröhling
I would love to hear of other well-printed sites though. I strongly believe in css for print but have seen far too few good examples of it. You may try http://grupoamnet.net. You may even select the print-style as alternate style-sheet in FireFox. Ciao Niels

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Katrina
I suspect the best way to create serious (from a design-for-print standpoint) web-to-print systems is to install a php-based pdf generator, because at the end of the day no matter how sophisticated web technologies get, printing from within the browser is always going to leave a world's

Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles

2006-12-01 Thread Donna Jones
Hi, After browsing some favored CSS sites, some by Standards Evangelist, there seems to be a decline in the use of print styles. Has some movement escaped my research? Hi, don't know about the Standards Evangelist but I do think people in general just haven't got there yet. For me, at