[Mailman-Users] Re: Cloudmark blacklist

Jayson Smith writes: > Comcast/Charter (found out about that one Saturday night when > trying to reply to a legit individual message) both reject the > message as soon as a blocked server connects, Comcast is really bad for any number of reasons. Unfortunately, if I remember correctly

[Mailman-Users] Re: Cloudmark blacklist

Jayson Smith writes: > What I mean is that I'd love to find a good, reliable smarthost I > can direct my SMTP server on my VPS to use. You could try some of the services listed here: Hosting: https://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services Consulting:

[Mailman-Users] Re: Error member gets when sending to one of my lists?

Mark Sapiro writes: > This issue may be > relevant. qmail.org is currently contentless but still owned by Crynwr Software. So I would guess Russ Nelson[1] has retired from supporting qmail. If you're still using qmail I would migrate off it

[Mailman-Users] Error member gets when sending to one of my lists?

Adam Morris writes: > A member is subscribed to two lists I run. > > He can post to one but gets the following error when posting to the > other list. > SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: The message should indicate which server rejected it. This error depends on the

[Mailman-Users] Everything you need to know about SPF/DKIM but are too mad to ask

Dmitri Maziuk writes: > On 3/12/24 11:40, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > I'm interested what independent mailman-users@ think on technical > > issues of DKIM/SPF, Disclaimer: I'm not an independent user. I am a Mailman developer, a participant in the development of some of the most recent

[Mailman-Users] Cloudmark blacklist

Jayson Smith writes: > I'm getting really tired of these unexplained blacklistings. Does > anyone know of any reliable outgoing Email service providers? What do you mean by that? Gmail for example allows you (or did allow you 18 months ago) to validate an alternate address through the usual

[Mailman-Users] Re: Outlook blocked again, but strange response

Jayson Smith writes: > Update: Sometime in the night, my IP was silently removed from > Microsoft's block list. I've never had that happen, but all's well > that ends well, at least for now. Thanks for the update. Yes, that happens, and for those of us trying to support you all, this lack of

[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-delivery of approved messages

Francis Jayakanth writes: > Transforming to a hosted service would alleviate the technical > burden and ensure the smooth operation of the list. If anyone has > recommendations or experiences with reliable and affordable hosted > services for Mailman list management, I would greatly

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mails are sent in tranches of 100

Andreas Grupp via Mailman-Users writes: Note that this is the wrong list for Mailman 3. This list is for Mailman 2, and you are likely to get inaccurate advice here. You should use mailman-us...@mailman.org in the future. (Don't move this thread there, I think it's mostly over anyway, and we

[Mailman-Users] Attach footer only once?

Tim Houseman writes: > Is it possible for footers to only be attached once? They are only attached once. ;-) The part that's annoying your subscribers is included by your posters. A mailing list should not touch the message body provided by the poster, unless there's a specific rule against

[Mailman-Users] Re: Attach footer only once?

Carl Zwanzig writes: > And unfortunately, solving "people problems" with technology seldom > ends well. I find that using appropriate technology often helps me be a less problematic people. :-) Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list --

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

rich...@karmannghia.org writes: > It's very straight-forward: C'mon, man, Grandpa knows how to tie his shoes. The construction of such an encrypted list not technically terribly complex---as you said yourself, a SMOC. The problems are describing *who* is the adversary, *what* will they do to

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

Juergen Dollinger writes: > We tried encrypted lists some years ago. Have a look at > http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/mailman-pgp-smime/ Thank you for describing your experience! The people side is always hard. I'm not unhopeful though, but it's going to take work, especially good design. > The idea

[Mailman-Users] Non-delivery of approved messages

Francis Jayakanth via Mailman-Users writes: > The list is running on Mailman 2.1.26. If possible you should upgrade Mailman, currently at version 2.1.39. Almost all of the releases since 2.1.26 are primarily oriented to "security" and "reliability" issues. I don't recally any offhand that

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

Hi Richard, Thanks for your followup. Although you suggested taking the conversation private, I want to at least continue for one more post because it's not clear to me that there's demand for this service that is enough to justify the likely substantial cost of development. I don't know how to

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

rich...@karmannghia.org writes: > ...I would hope that all netizens are fully aware (and obviously > not all are) that there is not and cannot be such a thing as "safe > environment for email discussions" with email as now practiced and > to create it requires a serious overhaul of the way

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

Christian Buser via Mailman-Users writes: > Please don’t feed the trolls... I don't have time to visit trolly websites, either. Lucky me, this time! :) :) :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

Sron Dev writes: > Please let me know which platform you'd like me to elaborate on, Me personally? None. I don't have time for theoretical discussions. Maybe somebody else does, you're welcome to pick a platform and hold forth (but see below for venue, this is almost certainly not the right

[Mailman-Users] Security features of Mailman

sanjay jangam writes: > Can you elaborate on the security features of Mailman and how it > ensures a safe environment for email discussions? No. The question is poorly posed. You need to say against what threats you want to protect your discussions. I can say this much: Mailman 3 does try

[Mailman-Users] confirm mails / administrative mails are discarded in mailman3

Georg Schröder writes: > can someone explain this behaviour to me ? > > - I upgraded from 3.3.5 This list is specific to Mailman 2. Some of the Mailman developers are reading it, but some don't, and the majority of Mailman 3 users don't. For broadest audience you should post Mailman 3

[Mailman-Users] Emails not being sent, but showing up in archives?

Seeds of Success writes: > For the last two months or so, the emails that I send out on the > mailman list do not get sent out to the subscribers, but do show up > on the archived threads. I am not very mailman savvy, and have > recently taken over admin roles from someone else. Any guidance

[Mailman-Users] Issues with a DMARC record leading to message being shunted

Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users writes: > The DMARC record for somenet.org is > "v=DMARC1;p=none;pct=100;rua=mailto:postmas...@somenet.org;mailto:postmas...@somenet.org;ri=3600;fo=1;; > which is syntactically incorrect. The extra > ";mailto:postmas...@somenet.org; is wrong, I guess the tag

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

Jim Dory writes: > I've started getting these spamming attacks again so thought I > would dive into trying this recaptcha. I got the keys for V2 > recaptcha from google and put the 2 lines at the bottom of the > mm_cfg.py with proper keys from google. Spelling double > checked. After saving

[Mailman-Users] Updated Drupal user mailman register module (announcement)

Russell Clemings writes: > Because I needed it for a project, I've just updated the "user mailman > register" module for Drupal 9/10. Thank you for the work and for letting us know about it! Yes, IWBNI "somebody" would do the Mailman 3 port, and if you're thinking about it, feel free to get

[Mailman-Users] "This is an ex-Python"

Hi all, I had occasion today to try to duplicate a Python 2 application on a fresh install of Debian 12 "Bookworm". It was a bit of a lift, and I realized just how deprecated Python 2 is. Properly speaking, Python 2 "is no more", "has ceased to be", "bereft of life, it rests in peace", and

[Mailman-Users] Re: Excessive or fatal bounces issue

Florin Pasăre writes: > I would like to ask you where the system What do you mean by "the system"? Mailman? The mail servers (these are the programs that exchange mail between hosts on the Internet)? Your mail client (the program you use to read and send mail)? "Something" between the

[Mailman-Users] Re: Unable to post messages to a Mailman 2 List

Odhiambo Washington writes: > You can use the address rewriting facility of your MTA, but is that even > necessary if the old domain name is gone? "Gone, but not forgotten." That's some network team if they can erase people's address books! The tradeoff is immediate convenience for posters,

[Mailman-Users] Re: Hide list address?

Odhiambo Washington writes: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 4:24?PM ta515eeo0o2--- via Mailman-Users > wrote: > > "I want to change the configuration of the mailing list so that all > > messages are addressed directly to the recipient, and the mailing list name > > does not appear anywhere in

[Mailman-Users] Re: Problems with mailman installation

Nils writes: > I've checked [for logs] in both locations. I even created a > writeable syslog file in chroot to be sure. Neither had any > information. It's been a decade since I looked into the wrapper code, but I suspect that the reason for the odd phrasing about "log will be written" is

[Mailman-Users] Problems with mailman installation

Nils writes: > vhost configuration: This is irrelevant at this point, I think. Apache is calling the cgi so you're past that. > Here is the significant part of the fstab file that provides the > necessary directories in the chroot environment: You're missing the bin directory and Python's

[Mailman-Users] how to change email address

Teijo writes: > Hello, > > > I am unsure how to change my email address where messages of this list > are emailed. Visit https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ and log in ("sign in" at the upper right, using any of your registered email addresses as the user, or

[Mailman-Users] Question regarding message-ids

Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users writes: > I'm sure I can hack something up in Postfix, but is there an easy > way (tm)? Get rid of Exchange. :-) This is not something Mailman should implement in my opinion. The author decided to send a single message to multiple addresses. Evidently that

[Mailman-Users] Problem with outlook.com

pau.bai...@csuc.cat writes: > We have a problem with some Outlook users who on the list return > this error: This is an Outlook problem. With luck somebody here may have an answer, but we are not Outlook experts. You should go to Outlook channels for help. Here's my best guess: The error

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 3 moderator login page as mailman 2.1 one

Mark Sapiro writes: > First the moderator needs to sign up for an account in the web UI > at a URL like https://example.com/accounts/signup/. Then when > logged in, the moderator can visit a URL like > https://example.com/mailman3/lists/ to handle requests. For most people it should just

[Mailman-Users] Re: Excessive or fatal bounces issue

Florin Pasăre writes: > Thank you for your response. I know we should upgrade, but because > of company policies this is not really an option at the moment, Like Carl and Mark, I strongly recommend upgrading to most recent Mailman 2. This is straightforward, and during the process you can get

[Mailman-Users] Excessive or fatal bounces issue

Florin Pasăre writes: > Hello, > I've been having some issues lately. We are using Mailman 2.1.15. Mailman 2.1.15 was released in 2012, ie, long before the AOL/Yahoo "contact list leak" fiasco. This means your lists are unable to dealwith anti-phishing and anti-spam measures adopted by many

[Mailman-Users] Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

Barry S. Finkel writes: > And I wanted to get support from Mark and this list, instead of > from Debian. So, I figured out how to create a package from the > Mailman source. This was on an older version of Mailman, but I > assume that my technique should work with the latest Mailman 2 >

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

rich...@karmannghia.org writes: > (Maybe! How do we know they won't abandon Python3 like they did > Python2? They supported Python 2 for most of a decade after the release of Python 3. Not only does that bode well for longterm Python 3 support, there also will not be another break like Python

[Mailman-Users] Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please?

Steven Jones writes: > I feel the same way, hence still running Mailman2 (on RHEL8). It is > simple and low CPU hit, however Red Hat stops it support in May > 2024. That's fine with us. Mailman 2 is pretty bulletproof and low- maintenance from our point of view too. > Containers are really

[Mailman-Users] moderation queue and member list management weirdness

Hoover Chan writes: > A moderated mailing list where I see items in the moderation queue > but nothing happens after I select the actions to be taken (defer, > approve, delete) and then execute. > > For the same list, I can see the first page of the member list but > can't search for

[Mailman-Users] Can Mailman 2 run on Debian 12?

Thomas Gramstad writes: > We are running quite a few mailing lists here, so it would be a > rather big job changing them all to Mailman 3. At least with Postfix and Exim4, there is experience running Mailman 2 and Mailman 3 in parallel. I recommend you consider installing Mailman 3 and

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

Richard Damon writes: > One configuration error that I remember being able to cause this > sort of issue is if the list is configured with a http:// address, > but the server automatically forwards to https:// then it can lose > the data for the submission. Interesting idea. But I don't

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

Mark Sapiro writes: > Actually, the first 2.1 release was in December, 2002. See > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/7%20Mailman%20history You would You have to admit the early 2.1 release history is extremely confusing. I'm pretty sure I chose the tag that was exactly "2.1".

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.15 doesn't allow admin changes on private lists

Charles Buckley writes: > I experimented with this a bit, and found that I could eliminate > the footer on my public (browsable) list on the same server. So I > tried converting my other private (non-browsable) list to be > browsable, at which point I could eliminate the footer, and then >

[Mailman-Users] Retrieve extra copy of Mailman bounces- report message?

Thomas Gramstad writes: > My question is: If I accidentally delete that report message from > Mailman, is there a way I can retrieve or send myself a copy of > it? You can have multiple owners or moderators for the list. Why not just add a mailbox-of-record that you don't actually read

[Mailman-Users] Re: Size limit leads to rejection instead of moderation

Mark Sapiro writes: > The size limit, General Options -> max_message_size will only > result in a message being held. These messages are being rejected > for some other reason. Check Mailman's vette log and/or the > rejected message for the reason. If that doesn't reveal the reason, also

[Mailman-Users] Re: posts building up in /var/spool/mailman/in

Good to know! and thank you for the followup, we do appreciate it! ssaini writes: > > > ``` > > If urllib2.urlopen throws an exception, you need to figure out why. > > Does > > ``` > > wget https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat > > ``` > > retrieve the data? > > After

[Mailman-Users] Re: migrations questions

Mark Sapiro writes: > You need to build a working Mailman 3 installation on the new > server. We recommend following > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html > for that. That is certainly the method I would use, and have several times used. (Caveat I'm also a Mailman

[Mailman-Users] Question: If the list name and a member address are known, can foreign mails be channeled into the list?

Thomas F. Holz writes: > If I know the address of a list member and the address of the mailing > list, I seem to be allowed to write in the list in his place. > Is this correct? Yes, as far as Mailman 2 goes. Mailman 2 doesn't know anything about a user except their address. Mailman 3

[Mailman-Users] post confirmations

Bernie Cosell writes: > This with mailman 2.1.39. And this in response to Gmail's utterly foolish > and > obnoxious "feature" of throwing away an incoming email that appears to be > "from yourself" I agree it's obnoxious, but it's actually dup suppression, not throwing away mail from

[Mailman-Users] Re: Line breaks in monthly reminder emails

Mark Sapiro writes: > If you have the ability to patch Mailman's cron/mailpasswds, this will > do it. Possibly more flexible (but harder to implement and dependent on user MUAs) would be to use format=flowed in Content-Type. --

[Mailman-Users] Re: manage.py not found in virtual environment

Martin Lorenz writes: > >> `python manage.py hyperkitty_import -l stamm ...` > btw. this is, what it says in the docs: > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html I assume you're just pip'ing everything from PyPI, without any version constraints on the command line? If yes, good,

[Mailman-Users] manage.py not found in virtual environment

Martin Lorenz writes: > (venv) mailman@arda:/etc/exim4$ python manage.py hyperkitty_import -l > stammesleit...@list.poc.im > /data/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/stammesleitung.mbox/stammesleitung.mbox > Executive summary: you have to specify an absolute or relative path to manage.py.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Hevy resource footprint forces backdrop to mailman 2.1

Martin Lorenz writes: > so I had to switch to a new provider. The new v-server is > debian-based. the release is bullseye which does still provide > python2 but lacks a few packages that are necessery to install > mailman2.1 I would have to manually install dependencies via pip > instead of

[Mailman-Users] Re: Hevy resource footprint forces backdrop to mailman 2.1

Martin Lorenz writes: > I am afraid, mailman3 needs far too much system resources for this > virtual server. This whole story doesn't make much sense to me. You switched to a new virtual server because Mailman 2 isn't supported but imply that Mailman 3 is, but you can't get support from your

[Mailman-Users] Welcome E-mail Reply To

Omri Kalinsky writes: >     Problem #1: >     One of my friends (who isn't tech savvy and doesn't read > directions) was my guinea pig and successfully joined. The problem is he > tried to send his first e-mail to the list by simply replying to the > welcome e-mail, so he e-mailed

[Mailman-Users] Welcome E-mail Reply To

Omri Kalinsky writes: >     So I just recently purchased a mailman 2.1.39 hosted list from > mailmanlists.org. Feel free to ask questions here, but we are volunteers and have no connection that I know of to mailmanlists.org. If you're paying for support, you should get quicker support from

[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

Odhiambo Washington writes: > 1. I am getting too many messages from cron which I am unable to address > because I am not a perl programmer: I'm not, either. > Useless use of greediness modifier '?' in regex; marked by <-- HERE in > m/^\w+:{1,1}? <-- HERE / at

[Mailman-Users] Search box for archives

Odhiambo Washington writes: > What is the simplest way to add a searchbox for the archives? If you're talking about about Mailman 2's Pipermail, you need to install and configure a separate application. I think HT:Dig is most popular, but I've only used Namazu, which worked well for me.

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT Blocking (was AOL list member not receiving list traffic)

Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS writes: > > Is there possibly something somebody could consider spammy in your > > content, such as frequent or repeated announcements of new services or > > invitations to events? Do members ever report the list traffic being > > marked as (potential) spam? Are

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT Blocking (was AOL list member not receiving list traffic)

Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS writes: > AT has now started blocking the IP address of the multiple > auto-forwarding email addresses I set up to get around them blocking the > IP address of my GNU Mailman list. I have to conclude AT wants to get rid of their email provision activity. Is

[Mailman-Users] Re: List Archives

David Andrews writes: > Thanks everyone. This all sounds reasonable except it also identifies > another problem we are having. There is no good search method in > place. The only way to resolve it in Mailman is to upgrade to Mailman 3, and use HyperKitty. As far as I know you can import a

[Mailman-Users] List Archives

David Andrews writes: > I want to delete some lists, but would like to save the archives. > Pipermail saves by month, as I have it configured. Is there a way to > obtain an entire archive at once? Are there tools to convert the > MBOX format to something non-technical people can deal with

[Mailman-Users] AOL list member not receiving list traffic

Jayson Smith writes: > Is AOL known to silently discard mail they think is spam for some > reason? I hope someone with actual experience will speak up, but my take is that it's entirely possible. (Footnotes are of historical interest, but not directly relevant to solutions.) The last time I

[Mailman-Users] Re: B.S. With Google Yellow Boxes and GNU Mailman

Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS writes: > *For now -- problem solved!** Good news! > I will take a look at Mark's DMARC mitigations below also. You may also want to ask Dreamhost if they can enable the ARC protocol for your host. This protocol allows your host to testify which authentication

[Mailman-Users] Re: Change in email routing

Francis Jayakanth via Mailman-Users writes: > I'm told that there are per minute and per hour restrictions of 30 > and 1800 emails respectively (inbound and outbound) on o365. I'm not sure what "limit of 30 emails/minute" means. In the below, I am going to assume it means "addresses to be

[Mailman-Users] Change in email routing

Francis Jayakanth via Mailman-Users writes: > Hi, I'm administering and moderating a list with Mailman version > 2.1.20. This is extremely old. If it works, that's fine, but you're missing 19 releases worth of security fixes, including some quite nasty and easily exploitable ones (like

[Mailman-Users] Managing Lists Remotely

Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users writes: > We're looking at options to manage our mailman3 lists programmatically from > a saas platform we offer. > > The rest api seems like the way to go, but almost everything I read > about it says do not expose this publicly. Use a dedicated encrypted

[Mailman-Users] Re: Flooded with signup requests

Max writes: > I would have expected that Mailman shows the user/bot a message saying: > Hey simon1...@gmail.com, you already have a pending signup request, > please be patient while the moderators are reviewing your request. I don't think that information is readily available to the

[Mailman-Users] Flooded with signup requests

Max writes: > Hi, I'm admin for multiple lists and I am getting flooded with fake > signup requests. As Mark says, stopping email signups is probably a good idea. I wonder if the gmail and yahoo signups are genuine accounts there. If not, checking From alignment (ie, the same domain that is

[Mailman-Users] Malicious Third-Party Unsubscription Requests

Karl Semich writes: > I'm experiencing mailbombing via spoofed unsubscription and > subscription requests from mailman lists. Mostly unsubscription > requests from a mailman 2.1 list. This is an unfortunate consequence of the fundamental design of using access to a mailbox as proof of

[Mailman-Users] Re: HTTPD

Software Info writes: > Just a little update. I just ran > # obhttpd -d -vvv -f obhttpd.conf and > # slowcgi -d -p / > to see if I could get anything that made sense show up on the screen > and the first error I saw was: slowcgi: execve > /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/: Permission denied >

[Mailman-Users] HTTPD

Stephen J. Turnbull writes: > I hope that helps, if not, more information about your configuration Also check your logs for the httpd and for Mailman. With a 500, it's likely that Mailman isn't logging much, but it's worth checking. Typically there will be a traceback in the httpd log. St

[Mailman-Users] HTTPD

Software Info writes: > Strangely, I am still getting error 500. Internal Server Error. Has > anyone gotten this pair working together? Any help would be > appreciated. "Have you got this working" questions should probably be addressed to OpenBSD lists. Offhand, I can't recall anyone here

[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem with outlook.com

saran...@intracom-telecom.com writes: > Do you know when this change will be deployed in Mailman3 or > Python3? do i need to issue a bug report in order to speed up > things? This is the "missing hyphen in iso8859-7" issue, right? To answer the question literally, at present we don't want to

[Mailman-Users] Re: How to wrap text in archived messages

David Andrews writes: >. Search worked, and users liked it, but I had another > problem with cPanel, don't even remember what. The cPanel folks said > they would not give me technical support as long as I used HTDIG, Condolences. It's not clear to me that that is any of their business

[Mailman-Users] Re: How to wrap text in archived messages

Mark Sapiro writes: > On 5/25/22 19:32, Mark Dale via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Before I go down this rabbit hole: was there any particular > > reason (back in the day) that Pipermail was favoured (and > > implemented) over MHonArc. > > Mailman was initially implemented by John Viega in the

[Mailman-Users] Mailman3 - from Whoosh to Xapian

Kimmo L. writes: > import xapian > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'xapian' I'm pretty sure this occurs when the Xapian application and its libraries are not installed. xapian-haystack is an adapter from C++ (or maybe C) to Python, it is not a complete installation of the Xapian

[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem with outlook.com

saran...@intracom-telecom.com writes: > /usr/lib/python2.7/encodings/iso8859_7.py, in def getregentry(), > there is a line: name='iso8859-7' which if it is changed to: > name='iso-8859-7' then the encoding is sent correctly and the > emails are received by the Exchange server. Nevertheless,

[Mailman-Users] Re: How to wrap text in archived messages

Mark Dale via Mailman-Users writes: > And of course, any such "nl2br" equivalent will do exactly the same > as wrapping with P tags -- with everything left aligned. Right. I'm not sure that we couldn't do better nowadays with libraries that will handle the same DOM that browsers do, but it

[Mailman-Users] How to wrap text in archived messages

Mark Dale via Mailman-Users writes: > I'm looking for a way to wrap lines in archived messages. Executive summary: There's not really a good way to do this. It's extremely complicated, *especially* in email (as opposed to most "normal" text) because of quoting conventions in email. > With

[Mailman-Users] Re: Double opt-in, Question about adding people to a Mailman list

Mark Sapiro writes: > On 5/22/22 00:17, Jayson Smith wrote: > > I run a Mailman 2 list for an organization of writers with disabilities. > > Recently our president has become concerned that some people wanting to > > join the group may not be responding to the standard Mailman > >

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

Christian Buser via Mailman-Users writes: > You know that in a mailing list everyone should help if he can and > not only consume? Technically correct, but please don't be so antagonistic. > So then, please unsubscribe here. What you do with your own filters is your business, but for the

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

Lucio Chiappetti writes: > On Sun, 15 May 2022, Jon Baron wrote: > > > I am trying to use spamassassin by running everything through > > /etc/procmail, > > Sorru, I do not understand what procmail and spamassassin, intended to > process INCOMING mail, have to do with mailman which is

[Mailman-Users] Re: [ext] How do I send an email to all list admins?

Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users writes: > Ralf Hildebrandt writes: > > How do I send an email to all list admins? > > I have a script I wrote (or rather I’m pretty sure I have one of > Mark’s scripts that I modified :-) that gets the name and address > of every list on our system and

[Mailman-Users] How do I send an email to all list admins?

Ralf Hildebrandt writes: > How do I send an email to all list admins? AFAIK, one by one, or you could make a mailing list for them. I guess you could save them one message by putting your announcement in the welcome message. I think the original idea of the mail...@list.example.net list was

[Mailman-Users] The Hotmail complaint saga continues

Jayson Smith writes: > 1. Is Linode, my VPS provider, also receiving these complaints? If so, > I'm surprised they haven't at least sent me a notice telling me about them. Seems unlikely, both on general principles and since you haven't heard from them. Have you confirmed that these

[Mailman-Users] Re: ARC protocol in Mailman 2?

ed through your Linode host so I can see the complete set. On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 9:06 PM Jayson Smith wrote: > Hi, > > To answer your main question, everything is on one Linode VPS, there's > no networking or separate servers/hosts involved, everything's on one box. > > Jayson >

[Mailman-Users] ARC protocol in Mailman 2?

Jayson Smith writes: > I've recently been playing with the OpenARC milter for Sendmail. IIRC, OpenARC is the sample implementation by the ARC developers. It should be robust. Mailman uses a different implementation based on Python. (You should use an MTA-based implementation if it works

[Mailman-Users] Re: Step by step guide to installing Mailman

Odhiambo Washington writes: > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 7:52 PM Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > Please also note that for some uses and for some people, MM2 is probably > > still the better choice- > Where did I go wrong in my advise to the OP? You didn't. :-) > I actually gave him all the options.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Reply-to addresses

Christian via Mailman-Users writes: > Hi Michael > > I don’t think you have a problem here. The "From:"-address will probably > look like this: > > "Firstname Lastname usern...@domain.com" This isn't true. "domain.com" is replaced by "---" because it's believed that having

[Mailman-Users] Re: Handling non-members in Cgi/options.py

Mark Sapiro writes: > On 2/22/22 10:00, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 2/22/22 05:56, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> I think in both cases you can return the login page with the address > >> filled in. > > > > You are correct and it's trivial to do. I

[Mailman-Users] Re: Handling non-members in Cgi/options.py

Mark Sapiro writes: > There is still a subtle difference in that if the address given is > a member, the login page asks only for a password, but if it's not > a member login page asks for both and address and a password, but I > think that's the best that can be done. I think in both cases

[Mailman-Users] Re: illegal BOM

Executive summary: - There is a BOM in the X-Ham-Report header field. - There is reason to believe that it, and not just any non-ASCII, triggered this rejection. - Disabling the X-Ham-Report field (and possibly an X-Spam-Report field) seems to be the best option. Christian via Mailman-Users

[Mailman-Users] Listservers currently hosted with EMWD - urgent request for assistance

Note: Reply-To set to mailman-us...@mailman3.org. Please check that any replies are addressed to that list, and not mailman-users@python.org. Jonathan, FWIW, I haven't heard anything. I have 3 students submitting MS/PhD theses in less than (checks watch) 18 hours, but after that I'll see if I

[Mailman-Users] Re: Charset chaos

Mark Sapiro writes: > Mailman 2.1 is almost 20 years old and predates the common use of > unicode and utf-8. That's why the German message catalog is > iso-8859-1 encoded. What you did below is the appropriate fix. Speaking to Johannes and those in his situation: To be honest, in the past we

[Mailman-Users] Re: Should CSRF check disregard case of addresses?

Bill Cole writes: > > So this is potentially very complicated. > > Case-squashing domain parts? Not complicated. Simple. This is true if you are talking about following the Internet's rules. I wasn't; I was talking about equivalencing identity tokens that happen to look like email addresses.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Should CSRF check disregard case of addresses?

Mailman-admin writes: > Am 13.12.21 um 12:09 schrieb Sebastian Hagedorn: > > Nov 24 19:33:24 2021 (117276) Form for user x...@smail.uni-koeln.de > > submitted with CSRF token issued for x...@smail.uni-koeln.de. > > > > The only difference is in the case of the email address. I’m no expert

[Mailman-Users] Re: {Spam?} in subject lines.

Barry S. Finkel writes: > Mailman has no method for changing the Subject: line. As you see above, Mailman sure does have a method for changing the Subject field. :-) The problem is that stock Mailman has no idea whether something is spam or not, so neither adding nor removing spam tags makes

[Mailman-Users] Re: setting up mailman lists from the command line

Mark Sapiro writes: > But I'm concerned about what you are trying to do when you say "I'm > thinking I'll script a way for the users to do this." These commands > should only be used by admins. Are you trying to enable users to create > lists? I don't think that's a good idea. I would

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