Re: Elliott Erwitt

2023-11-30 Thread ann sanfedele
Damn! .. I never met him in person but he wrote a blurb for my book Sign Language in 1992 .. that never got used because he was out of the country when he got the photos .. he sent the quote in to my editor (one of his, of course) saying  "if it's not too late, here's a quote for you"  I

Elliott Erwitt

2023-11-30 Thread Bob W PDML
has died, unfortunately. I met him once after a fascinating and very amusing talk he gave at the National Portrait Gallery in London. He very generously signed a copy of his book Manwatching for me - in Russian - I’d brought it along hoping he’d do that for me so I could give it to a Russian

OT: Life According to Elliott Erwitt

2021-04-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://www.magnumphotos.com/shop/collections/elliott-erwitt-collection Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>* -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Elliott Erwitt Pittsburgh

2017-08-03 Thread Gonz
I used to live in Pittsburgh. From about 1988 till 1998. Very photogenic city, especially at the point where the rivers meet. I used to live near the Ohio river downstream from there and loved to hear the sounds of the festive paddle boats carrying tourists down the river. On Wed, Aug 2, 2017

Re: Elliott Erwitt Pittsburgh

2017-08-02 Thread Paul in MKE
Great photos, great story. Always fun to see mid-20th century photos. Thanks for posting. -p On 8/2/2017 12:30 PM, Gonz wrote: https://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/elliott-erwitts-lost-photographs-of-pittsburgh-at-the-crossroads/?_r=0 -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm

Re: Elliott Erwitt Pittsburgh

2017-08-02 Thread Zos Xavius
I'm from Pittsburgh. Very cool and thank you for sharing! On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Gonz wrote: > https://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/elliott-erwitts-lost-photographs-of-pittsburgh-at-the-crossroads/?_r=0 > > > -- > -- Photography takes an instant out of time,

Elliott Erwitt Pittsburgh

2017-08-02 Thread Gonz
https://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/elliott-erwitts-lost-photographs-of-pittsburgh-at-the-crossroads/?_r=0 -- -- Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding it still. Dorothea Lange -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Elliott Erwitt exhibit

2016-11-29 Thread ann sanfedele
7/2016 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote: Went to see the quite large Elliott Erwitt display at the University of Texas' Harry Ransom center last night. All I can say is Wow! If you can find a way to go see it, do it! So many iconic photographs there. Many with the stories behind the image. Quite spect

Re: Elliott Erwitt exhibit

2016-11-29 Thread Bruce Walker
> >> ann >> >> >> >> On 11/17/2016 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote: >>> >>> Went to see the quite large Elliott Erwitt display at the University >>> of Texas' Harry Ransom center last night. >>> >>> All I can say is Wow! >>>

Re: Elliott Erwitt exhibit

2016-11-29 Thread Gonz
but didn't know about it until after > the opening... which he attended... I'm really sorry I missed the chance to > meet him > > ann > > > > On 11/17/2016 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote: >> >> Went to see the quite large Elliott Erwitt display at the University >> of T

Re: Elliott Erwitt exhibit

2016-11-18 Thread ann sanfedele
send me train fare and I'll be right there :-) I did see a fairly recent exhibit here but didn't know about it until after the opening... which he attended... I'm really sorry I missed the chance to meet him ann On 11/17/2016 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote: Went to see the quite large Elliott Erwitt

Elliott Erwitt exhibit

2016-11-17 Thread Gonz
Went to see the quite large Elliott Erwitt display at the University of Texas' Harry Ransom center last night. All I can say is Wow! If you can find a way to go see it, do it! So many iconic photographs there. Many with the stories behind the image. Quite spectacular. Plus some of the films

Re: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-16 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: they had an exhibition of his work at the Magnum office in London a few weeks ago so I went along to see it. Maybe it's the same one. I was interested to see that they had printed 2 other negs of the Nixon Kruschev encounter

Re: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-14 Thread Boris Liberman
If I would come to Toronto, with all due respect, I will start with seeing you, sir. Otherwise - I totally share your compliments :-). Boris On 11/14/2010 12:22 AM, frank theriault wrote: Well, today was the day I've been waiting for: The first day of Elliott Erwitt - A Survey at Stephen

RE: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-14 Thread Bob W
Well, today was the day I've been waiting for: The first day of Elliott Erwitt - A Survey at Stephen Bulger Gallery on Queen near Ossington here in Toronto: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/elliott-erwitt-in-toronto.html It did not disappoint. It hit all the highlights, from

Re: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-14 Thread Bruce Walker
On 10-11-13 5:22 PM, frank theriault wrote: Well, today was the day I've been waiting for: The first day of Elliott Erwitt - A Survey at Stephen Bulger Gallery on Queen near Ossington here in Toronto: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/elliott-erwitt-in-toronto.html It did

RE: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-14 Thread Bob W
[...] I don't quite know how to interpret my reaction to this Erwitt shot: http://www.bulgergallery.com/dynamic/fr_artwork_exhibit_display.asp?Art workID=4108ExhibitID=215 My eyes were immediately drawn to the lower-right corner, and I thought variously: - would *I* clone that out? - if

Re: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Are your /sure/ Mike and Leonid aren't the same person, after all I've never seen them in the same room at the same time. On 11/14/2010 11:33 AM, Bob W wrote: Well, today was the day I've been waiting for: The first day of Elliott Erwitt - A Survey at Stephen Bulger Gallery on Queen near

Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-13 Thread frank theriault
Well, today was the day I've been waiting for: The first day of Elliott Erwitt - A Survey at Stephen Bulger Gallery on Queen near Ossington here in Toronto: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/elliott-erwitt-in-toronto.html It did not disappoint. It hit all the highlights, from

Re: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-13 Thread Miserere
I wonder how long of a drive it is from Boston... --M. On 13 November 2010 17:22, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Well, today was the day I've been waiting for:  The first day of Elliott Erwitt - A Survey at Stephen Bulger Gallery on Queen near Ossington here in Toronto

Re: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
It looks like Frank Theriault in Toronto. Nice self portrait, intended or not. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:22 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Well, today was the day I've been waiting for:  The first day of Elliott Erwitt - A Survey at Stephen Bulger Gallery on Queen near

Re: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto

2010-11-13 Thread Christine Aguila
-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: Elliott Erwitt in Toronto Well, today was the day I've been waiting for: The first day of Elliott Erwitt - A Survey at Stephen Bulger Gallery on Queen near Ossington here in Toronto: http

Re: Elliott Erwitt for life-like snaps...

2008-05-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Bob W wrote: http://www.elliotterwitt.com/lang/index.html Bob My Man! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Elliott Erwitt for life-like snaps...

2008-05-24 Thread ann sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.elliotterwitt.com/lang/index.html BTW, I've just spent the last 1/2 hour watching his photos on my monitor, and I'm changing my mind this guy. Lots of them are tilted. Some of them are

Elliott Erwitt for life-like snaps...

2008-05-23 Thread Bob W
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Re: Elliott Erwitt for life-like snaps...

2008-05-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.elliotterwitt.com/lang/index.html One of my favourite photographers. I've seen them all before, but they're still a treat to see. Thanks! -f -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: Elliott Erwitt for life-like snaps...

2008-05-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.elliotterwitt.com/lang/index.html BTW, I've just spent the last 1/2 hour watching his photos on my monitor, and I'm changing my mind this guy. Lots of them are tilted. Some of them are blurry: some from motion-blur

RE: Elliott Erwitt for life-like snaps...

2008-05-23 Thread Bob W
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.elliotterwitt.com/lang/index.html BTW, I've just spent the last 1/2 hour watching his photos on my monitor, and I'm changing my mind this guy. Lots of them are tilted. Some of them are blurry: some from

Re: Elliott Erwitt for life-like snaps...

2008-05-23 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they'd be far more life-like if he applied some Gaussian blur a bit more often. And that picture of the Lincoln Memorial is completely out of focus and some old guy's head is in the way. So it's not just me then. Whew! cheers,

Re: Elliott Erwitt for life-like snaps...

2008-05-23 Thread John Francis
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 05:27:02PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they'd be far more life-like if he applied some Gaussian blur a bit more often. And that picture of the Lincoln Memorial is completely out of focus and some

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
I didn't notice that you'd slagged anyone. However if you'd like... I can't this is too good, technically you got the exposure right on. There's good detail in the dog which is very hard to do while keeping acceptable detail in the shadows, which you also seem to have achieved, (at least as

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:05:26 -0500, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't notice that you'd slagged anyone. However if you'd like... I can't this is too good, technically you got the exposure right on. There's good detail in the dog which is very hard to do while keeping

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
. Regardless of my nit picking, I like the photo. Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/4/2004 3:19:38 PM Subject: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Okay, the EE thing is a joke - it's actually somewhat blasphemous to have

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Too bad, a properly raised Pit Bull or American Staffordshire Terrier is a very amicable beast. In fact my Cocker Spaniel Puppy regularly terrorizes one that belongs to a neighbor. They have a bad reputation in cities in the US because of bad owners training them to fight. Fred Widall wrote:

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Erwitt) - Original Message - From: Fred Widall Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pitbulls are about to become an endangered species in Ontario. Our provincial goverment is about to introduce a total ban on them. Eventually, they will have to ban all dogs

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:38 PM Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Wouldn't it make more sense to ban

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Which answers the question, who would keep a Hyena as a pet, if anyone had bothered to ask it. Caveman wrote: Bah. Try this: http://rotfl.pl/img.php?nigerians2.jpg Bob W wrote: Indeed. Even scarier for me was one day walking through a village in Maramures County to find myself being stalked at

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/11/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: 1) Don't approach a dog you don't know unless it's handler is present and both seem amenable to being approached. 2) Don't ever run from a dog. 3) If a dog is tied out on a chain, there is a good enough chance that it will be dangerous to

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Anders Hultman
Bob W: 5) Don't disturb a dog at it's mealtime. 6) In Romania, carry a big stick. There sure are some scary dogs roaming the streets of Bucarest. And we didn't exactly got less scared of our guide's reassuring words that only quite few of them has rabies... anders -

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, 5) Don't disturb a dog at it's mealtime. 6) In Romania, carry a big stick. There sure are some scary dogs roaming the streets of Bucarest. And we didn't exactly got less scared of our guide's reassuring words that only quite few of them has rabies... Indeed. Even scarier for me was

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/11/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: 6) In Romania, carry a big stick. Sharpened at one end as well? Don't forget the crucifix. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread mike wilson
Hi, John Francis wrote: Oddly enough, there are parts of the world that seem to manage to have an effective, efficient animal control system (rounding up strays, a shelter where abandoned animals may be turned in, etc.), enforcement of laws against animals defecating, all paid for by annual

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Indeed. Even scarier for me was one day walking through a village in Maramures County to find myself being stalked at the centre of a triangle of 3 dogs, all snarling and baring their gums

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Caveman
Bah. Try this: http://rotfl.pl/img.php?nigerians2.jpg Bob W wrote: Indeed. Even scarier for me was one day walking through a village in Maramures County to find myself being stalked at the centre of a triangle of 3 dogs, all snarling and baring their gums in a very alarming way. I was not carrying

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
(an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) I mean ban as in no driving privilege. A fine/surcharge doesn't work. Thats about the third step here. Depends on the driving infraction. William

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 4:45:39 PM, Caveman wrote: Bah. Try this: http://rotfl.pl/img.php?nigerians2.jpg Been there, done that. Great photo though. Well, almost. A couple of my friends were stalked by hyenas in Addis Ababa one night, and had to take refuge in the house of a complete

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, A friend of mine lived in Resolute Bay for a couple of years. One day he was out on the ice hunting Tarmagon when he had the distinct feeling that he was being watched. He looked over his shoulder to see a Polar Bear stalking him. Wasn't carrying toothpaste was he? I heard polar bears

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Hi, A friend of mine lived in Resolute Bay for a couple of years. One day he was out on the ice hunting Tarmagon when he had the distinct feeling that he was being watched. He looked over his

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: frank theriault They (the dogs, that is) were docile as little kitty cats. This has been my experience with the breed as well. Number one in the UK biters (number of bite incidents, severity not counted)league

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
At 22:15 2004.11.04 -0500, you wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 20:56:47 -0600 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Fred Widall Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pitbulls are about to become an endangered species in Ontario. Our provincial

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Stenquist Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Because irresponsible people have cross bred pit bulls to make them vicious, ill-tempered fighting dogs. Perhaps that's not the case in Canada, but it's true in the US. Yes, there are some good ones, but they look exactly like

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/11/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Statistics suggest that the proportion of dangerous pit bulls is quite high, at least in some parts of the US. That is reason to be concerned. The proportion of dangerous red sports cars is quite low. Of course, you could maybe have a red

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Statistics suggest that the proportion of dangerous pit bulls is quite high, at least in some parts of the US. That is reason to be concerned. Sure, statistics can be made to say

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/11/05 Fri PM 02:42:45 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Yes, if it's not per capita of the dog population, then it's exactly what one would expect, since Golden Labs are very common

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 9:27:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number one in the UK biters (number of bite incidents, severity not counted) league Golden Labrador. Alsatian, Dobermann, Pit bull, Rottweiler - none of them in the top ten. Just curious if that ranking is in total number

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/11/05 Fri PM 02:03:39 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 9:27:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number one in the UK biters (number of bite

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, if it's not per capita of the dog population, then it's exactly what one would expect, since Golden Labs are very common in most countries. On Nov 5, 2004, at 9:03 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 9:27:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number one in the UK biters (number of

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote on 11/5/2004, 9:31 AM: snip lots of things about dogs, etc Thanks Bill. I was just composing something along the same lines no need to send it now. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 9:27:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number one in the UK biters (number of bite incidents, severity not counted) league Golden Labrador. Alsatian

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Yes, if it's not per capita of the dog population, then it's exactly what one would expect, since Golden Labs are very common in most countries. Just to be pendantic

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) William Robb wrote on 11/5/2004, 9:31 AM: snip lots of things about dogs, etc Thanks Bill. I was just composing something along the same lines no need to send it now. Yer welcome

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pit bulls were bred from bull terriers as fighting dogs (hence pit) and are, as a breed, not one I would contemplate as a pet. But they are not, by nature, agressive towards

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote on 11/5/2004, 10:01 AM: Just to be pendantic, there is no recognized breed Golden Lab. Golden Retriever. Yellow Lab. William Robb Once again, Bill you beat me to the punch! -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote on 11/5/2004, 10:10 AM: Pit bulls were bred from bull terriers as fighting dogs (hence pit) and are, as a breed, not one I would contemplate as a pet. But they are not, by nature, agressive towards people. No, they were bred to be aggressive towards other dogs.

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bill Owens
If people would take a half day and learn about what makes dogs tick, there would be fewer problems. William Robb AMEN ! Bill

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Statistics suggest that the proportion of dangerous pit bulls is quite high, at least in some parts of the US

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bill Owens
Many people have the same opinion of Rotties, Dobermans and German Shepherds. All of these dogs I've ever met, have basically been big babies. Bill

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pit bulls were bred from bull terriers as fighting dogs (hence pit) and are, as a breed, not one I would contemplate as a pet

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/11/05 Fri PM 03:28:49 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) I'm dogless now, losing both my German Shorthaired Pointer and White German Shepherd to disease, but it still pisses me off when I

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, and it's done frequently and in many jurisdictions. Too many moving violations or accidents and one's license is suspended or revoked. Shel [Original Message] From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wouldn't it make more sense to ban the people who ruin dogs rather than the dogs

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sorry to hear that. Agreed about training. Worst thing to happen here was revoking the law requiring dog licences. too bloody right. They should have put the price up enough to pay for the dogshit to be cleaned up and DNA-tested to identify the dog and its owner, who could then be

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Christian
Bob W wrote on 11/5/2004, 11:45 AM: Hi, Sorry to hear that. Agreed about training. Worst thing to happen here was revoking the law requiring dog licences. too bloody right. They should have put the price up enough to pay for the dogshit to be cleaned up and DNA-tested to

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Caveman
I suggest living room, and using a Cat bulldozer to push it there. Christian wrote: Ever since then if I find dog crap in my yard I put it on the owner's doorstep. Maybe next time I'll put it in their mailbox.

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Sid Barras
Greetings All, To add my 2 cents to the discussion: And to further illustrate how far pittbull hysteria can go-- My oldest daughter has 3 pitt bulls. All of them are big (very big, in fact) cuddly lapdogs. She somehow got involved in the pitt bull rescue organization here in Lake Charles. I

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Hi, Sorry to hear that. Agreed about training. Worst thing to happen here was revoking the law requiring dog licences. too bloody right. They should have put the price up enough to pay for the dogshit to be cleaned up and DNA-tested to identify the dog and its owner, who could

RE: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Sid Barras describes how to become a multi-millionaire by breeding pitt bulls: Here's the rub: when my in-laws found out we had gotten a dog, they were happy-- until Grandma found out it was a pitt bull. Immediately, she told us we had to get rid of the dog. Or else she would never come

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread John Francis
mike wilson mused: Bob W wrote: Hi, Sorry to hear that. Agreed about training. Worst thing to happen here was revoking the law requiring dog licences. too bloody right. They should have put the price up enough to pay for the dogshit to be cleaned up and DNA-tested to

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bob W
Hi, And to further illustrate how far pittbull hysteria can go-- [...] when she was a little girl, she saw a playmate mauled by a pitt bull. [...] An illustration over how far people can take hysteria over a breed of dog. I never had anything for or against these dogs, but now I am

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: Okay, the EE thing is a joke - it's actually somewhat blasphemous to have a photo of mine mentioned in the same breath as The Master, but who better to blaspheme but me? vbg. Comments are always welcome - indeed, they are encouraged. Here's the chance for everyone

Cropped Pitbull - was: PAW White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 23:30:08 -0500, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, I would probably have cropped this a bit tighter as I don't feel the rest of what is shown in the image really adds. If a dog can look sad that one surely does. Thanks for your thoughts, Ken, If I were

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Andre Langevin
Yes, nicely Erwittish... Not sure this dog will always enjoy being a pitbull... Andre

Re: Cropped Pitbull - was: PAW White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Wow! Huge improvement. The image is now much more compelling in my opinion. You still get the feeling of the two men ignoring the rather unfortunate dog, and the dog is now much more dominant. I liked it before. I love it now. Paul On Nov 5, 2004, at 4:16 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, 4

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:22:43 -0500, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, You know I gotta love this one, Frank :) EE probably would like it too I never saw a more forlorn looking pitbull and he probably is a sweet dog. Thank you, Ann. I appreciate your thoughts. He seemed

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Treena
to Elliott Erwitt) Many people have the same opinion of Rotties, Dobermans and German Shepherds. All of these dogs I've ever met, have basically been big babies. Bill

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I did a couple of QD adjustments on Frank's pic ... the differences between the two adjusted pics may be subtle, but they do exist. I didn't try to do anything but open up the shadows and tone down the fried highlights and put a little more detail into the dog.

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:36:53 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a couple of QD adjustments on Frank's pic ... the differences between the two adjusted pics may be subtle, but they do exist. I didn't try to do anything but open up the shadows and tone down the fried highlights

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff
QD = Quick and Dirty Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a couple of QD adjustments on Frank's pic ... the differences between the two adjusted pics may be subtle, but they do exist. I didn't try to do anything but open up

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) I wonder exactly who is being hysterical - the person with the horrific past experience, or the person who puts an animal before their family. So if a person has a car accident and absolutely

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Many people have the same opinion of Rotties, Dobermans and German Shepherds. All of these dogs I've ever met, have basically been big babies. In my obedience classes, I have been

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Wouldn't it make more sense to ban the people who ruin dogs rather than the dogs themselves? Using the car/accident analogy, wouldn't it also make more sense to ban the people

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:42:45 -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, if it's not per capita of the dog population [...] Per canita? :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:56:19 -0500, Bill Owens wrote: If people would take a half day and learn about what makes dogs tick, there would be fewer problems. AMEN ! Hell, it's even easier than that. They typically just need to exercise what used to be called common sense. Typically meaning

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:01:38 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QD = Quick and Dirty LOL!! And here I thought you were using some PS lingo or something... vbg cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:56:33 -0500, Christian wrote: Another neighbor's little dogs crap in my front yard all the time. Recently I stepped in it and was livid. Ever since then if I find dog crap in my yard I put it on the owner's doorstep. One of my favorite stories about my dad: When I

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Hell, it's even easier than that. They typically just need to exercise what used to be called common

Re: PAW: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Shel Belinkoff
PS means what? LOL Shel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QD = Quick and Dirty LOL!! And here I thought you were using some PS lingo or something... vbg

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:18 AM Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bob W
Hi, 1) Don't approach a dog you don't know unless it's handler is present and both seem amenable to being approached. 2) Don't ever run from a dog. 3) If a dog is tied out on a chain, there is a good enough chance that it will be dangerous to not approach it, even if it's people are close

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bob W
Hi, I wonder exactly who is being hysterical - the person with the horrific past experience, or the person who puts an animal before their family. So if a person has a car accident and absolutely refuses to allow anyone in their family to ever get into a car again would be, in your mind,

Re: Cropped Pitbull - was: PAW White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 23:30:08 -0500, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, I would probably have cropped this a bit tighter as I don't feel the rest of what is shown in the image really adds. If a dog can look sad that one surely does. Thanks for your

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