On Oct 5, 2010, at 02:04 , Boris Liberman wrote:
On 10/5/2010 9:30 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
I think I will let this slide for now, even though it is a crappy
system
that makes these kinds of side-show shenanigans (worked that into a
sentence) with Pentax's top of the line DA optics.
On Oct 5, 2010, at 10:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: P. J. Alling
On 10/5/2010 7:01 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Well ... not a real car.
I'd get my MG running again, but that's
On 10/6/2010 8:02 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
Boris, the lenses will be two years old next month. If I can get them to
work with a little manual manipulation, which is free, why would I send
them to CRIS to a couple of hundred apiece to have the parts replaced?
Especially so in that I don't use
The E-5 is the same body, essentially, as the E-3, which grew larger
than the E-1 to allow for a much bigger, brighter viewfinder. These
are professional-grade cameras, compactness is a secondary priority.
The K-x, like the Panasonic G1, is designed with different priorities.
They feel teensy and
On 10/5/2010 7:01 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Well ... not a real car.
I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for transportation.
I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too.
From: Larry Colen
On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Problem number 2 is what's really kept it off the road.
Vandals smashed the windshield and driver's side window and I
can't get the broken glass out of the existing interior. I'm
going to have to strip it out and completely
From: P. J. Alling
On 10/5/2010 7:01 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Well ... not a real car.
I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for transportation.
I need to get my
: It ain't like it used to be.
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On 10/5/2010 7:01 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Well
On 10/5/2010 2:01 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
If Pentax's customers lose the perception that Pentax offers superior
value, they will no longer be Pentax's customers.
Very well said indeed. This is probably what I've been trying to tell
all along but did not manage it with proper brevity. I am
On Oct 4, 2010, at 21:54 , Joseph McAllister wrote:
Well PDML'rs, you forced me to break out my DA* 50-135 ƒ2.8 today. I
hadn't used it since I tested it when I bought it almost two years
ago, at least as far as I can recall. I used the DA* 16-50 ƒ2.8 and
the DA* 60-250 ƒ4.0 for all my
On 10/5/2010 9:30 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
I think I will let this slide for now, even though it is a crappy system
that makes these kinds of side-show shenanigans (worked that into a
sentence) with Pentax's top of the line DA optics.
Joe, with all due respect, I think that you might be
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm
interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got
all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in
new things occasionally when
Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm
interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got
all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only
On 10/5/2010 4:14 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm
interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least 100,000
miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when
keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new car.
What has surprised me a bit is that prime lenses choices are
On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:20, Jeffery Smith wrote:
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least
100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only
when keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new
car.
Hell, I
On 6 October 2010 01:19, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting that you say that, Mark. Not recently, if I understand
correctly, you bought into Sony Alpha system with A-850 and lenses.
Doubtless you did some research on the matter before committing your money.
I wonder if part
I find it helpful to keep abreast of what's new, what's problematic,
and what works well. And digital technology progresses rather quickly.
To get the best results for my clients, I want to use the best
options. I also believe in a replacement cycle. As a relatively heavy
volume user, I
On 10/5/2010 4:29 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 6 October 2010 01:19, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting that you say that, Mark. Not recently, if I understand
correctly, you bought into Sony Alpha system with A-850 and lenses.
Doubtless you did some research on the matter before
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/5/2010 4:14 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm
interested in Photography.
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From: Jeffery Smith
Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be.
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least
100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is
only when keeping the old car running
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Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be.
Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why
On 10/5/2010 4:56 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Nope. My research consisted of almost everything but equipment
discussions (on this and in various other fora).
But I do, as Godfrey says,now have pretty much the gear I need to do
the photography I want to do. I see few equipment purchases in
- Original Message -
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be.
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm
interested in Photography. With one or two small
of the air/glass
surfaces of their elements.
Jeffery
On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:29 AM, William Robb wrote:
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From: Jeffery Smith
Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be.
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least
2010/10/5 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
Joe, with all due respect, I think that you might be making a mistake here.
What Boris said.
a) don't buy a lens and let it rot in your basement
b) if a lens is bad and still near warranty end date get it fixed
c) if SDM is bad get it fixed all the
From: Charles Robinson
On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:20, Jeffery Smith wrote:
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at
least 100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one,
and that is only when keeping the old car running costs the same
as a monthly payment on a new
From: P N Stenquist
I find it helpful to keep abreast of what's new, what's problematic,
and what works well. And digital technology progresses rather quickly.
To get the best results for my clients, I want to use the best
options. I also believe in a replacement cycle. As a relatively heavy
On 10/5/2010 12:04 PM, eckinator wrote:
2010/10/5 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com:
Joe, with all due respect, I think that you might be making a mistake here.
What Boris said.
a) don't buy a lens and let it rot in your basement
b) if a lens is bad and still near warranty end date get it fixed
2010/10/5 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Yes, but mostly feelings of rage and disappointment.
you can tell by how far the front element bulges out... fisheye lenses
often tend to have distorted views of reality... there were even cases
of walleye vision reported in scientific
I think you should sell the seperatly, you'll probably only get about
$200 for it with or without the grip. If you can sell the grip
separately it's gravy.
On 10/5/2010 12:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: P N Stenquist
I find it helpful to keep abreast of what's new, what's problematic,
Feel my wrath, dirty equipment talker!
I had the same thought, actually.
I'll risk incurring the wrath of the people who despise equipment talk to
mention that Pentax still makes a very nice selection of prime lenses
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My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm
interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got
all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in
new things occasionally
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least
100,000
miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when
keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new
car.
Hell, I usually only buy a car AFTER it has 100,000 miles
On Oct 5, 2010, at 10:58 , Bob W wrote:
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at
least
100,000
miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is
only when
keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on
a new
car.
Hell, I
While we can't talk about bodies and lenses, there is always photo bags! And
Godfrey carefully sidestepped the issue of bags. As you are no doubt aware, he
has gone by the name Bagmelda Marcos in the past. ;-)
Jeffery
On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Bob W wrote:
My perspective is simple: I'm
On 10/5/2010 1:56 PM, Bob W wrote:
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm
interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got
all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only
From: Bob W
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least
100,000
miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when
keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new
car.
Hell, I usually only buy a car AFTER it
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Well ... not a real car.
I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for transportation.
I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too. And being a BGT, it actually
makes pretty decent transportation.
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. 230,000 so far on the Subaru Legacy
cars? I can't imagine that I'll ever have a car again.
Yeah, but don't you live somewhere that has decent bus train service,
not
to mention being within walking or cycling distance of most everything you
need?
yes
If I could do that, I
m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new
equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm
interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got
all the equipment I
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed (particularly the LE models). I was thinking more like Sony and
Olympus four-thirds.
My FourThirds kit consists of:
11-22/2.8-3.5
25/1.4
35/3.5 Macro
50/2 Macro
70/2.8 (50/2 + EC14) Macro
100/4 (50/2 + EC20) Macro
Yeah, but what about the bags . . .?
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed (particularly the LE models). I was thinking more like Sony and
Olympus four-thirds.
My FourThirds
On 6 October 2010 04:56, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
we can always talk about cormorants.
Or maybe we could simply rebrand: the Punsters Discuss Mail List?
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On Oct 5, 2010, at 15:43, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Bob W
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least
100,000
miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when
keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new
car.
From: Larry Colen
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Well ... not a real car.
I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for
transportation.
I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too. And being a BGT, it
actually makes pretty decent transportation.
Mine's a MGB
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Well ... not a real car.
I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for transportation.
I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too. And being a BGT, it actually
Shockingly, I have all the bags I need at present too ... although I
have looked at adding the Think Tank Photo Retrospective 10 when the
new body gets in (the E-5 is bulkier than the E-1 and L1 and doesn't
fit what I have particularly well). I had such a mess of bags I threw
my hands up, saved
It has a certain rugged blue-collar look to it.
The E-5 is bigger than the E-1? [groan]. I've gotten so spoiled by the petite
Pentax K-x with the smallish LE lenses, I'm neglecting the E-1 with zooms.
Jeffery
On Oct 5, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Think Tank Photo
On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Larry Colen
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Well ... not a real car.
I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for
transportation.
I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too. And being a BGT, it
actually
On 10/3/2010 7:17 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I really don't have an answer to that. Who would enforce it. When you're
dealing with a Government, it will be a matter health, safety and cost,
and the company's defense will be one of statistics.
If people are dying and the perception is that the
From: Boris Liberman
On 10/3/2010 6:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The discussion seems to have become about Pentax, or any other
manufacturer for that matter, unilaterally extending warranty on product
with a /very/ large number of defective samples. The contract on the
card is no longer in
Well PDML'rs, you forced me to break out my DA* 50-135 ƒ2.8 today. I
hadn't used it since I tested it when I bought it almost two years
ago, at least as far as I can recall. I used the DA* 16-50 ƒ2.8 and
the DA* 60-250 ƒ4.0 for all my canine action shooting. The 16-50 only
occasionally.
Joseph McAllister wrote:
/mild rant on\
Very little for me to disagree with.
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On 10/3/2010 2:09 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
/mild rant on\
rant snipped
\mild rant off/
Joe, I agree with most of what you said. I do tend to think that I care
about FF but otherwise, I am getting progressively disillusioned about
the practical improvements in image taking and resulting
I got the K7 because it was much cheaper on the downward side of it
production life. I like it fine. As time has gone by, I find
myself giving a chunk of my fun money to Harley-Davidson, so the
camera money I have will go to lenses. Especially since i have now
decided to keep a DSLR and an
On 10/3/2010 5:47 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
Interesting question about Pentax fixing its problems under
warranty. I do not have sufficient business experience to say for
sure, but it would not surprise me if this were no longer a viable
business model. Companies need to release frequently
As you say, a warranty is a legal contract. You can get from it what
you can under the law. For example, many buildings come with
warranties of 25 years or so. In practice, these warranties are only
good for the most major of problems since you inevitably have to sue
the builder to enforce the
On 10/3/2010 6:21 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
Legal is what you can practically get out of it. The production of
every item these days has factored in the cost of legal issues. If
Pentax or any company can get away with something, it will. This may
be cynical but I trouble putting corporate
On 10/3/2010 12:03 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
On 10/3/2010 5:47 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
Interesting question about Pentax fixing its problems under
warranty. I do not have sufficient business experience to say for
sure, but it would not surprise me if this were no longer a viable
business
I have bought no SDM lenses. I would no doubt be angry if they didn't
work properly, especially if I bought them for that reason. I'm
certainly not defending Pentax. I expect the worst and am usually
rewarded accordingly. ;-)
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 12:41 PM, P. J. Alling
On 10/3/2010 6:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The discussion seems to have become about Pentax, or any other
manufacturer for that matter, unilaterally extending warranty on product
with a /very/ large number of defective samples. The contract on the
card is no longer in question. Pentax has been
On 10/3/2010 12:54 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
On 10/3/2010 6:41 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The discussion seems to have become about Pentax, or any other
manufacturer for that matter, unilaterally extending warranty on product
with a /very/ large number of defective samples. The contract on the
On top of all that, I'm retired on a fixed income that's fixed a
little lower than I'm happy with. If I got to make a choice between
eating and gear acquisition, I think I have enough will-power to do
the right thing.
What, go on a diet?
;-)
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De: John Celio n...@neovenator.com
Para: PDML@pdml.net
Enviado: sáb,2 octubre, 2010 00:00
Asunto: It ain't like it used to be.
I noticed something recently: there is not *nearly* as much discussion
of new Pentax cameras as there was just a few years ago here. I
Whenever a new technology is introduced, there is an explosion of interest
followed by improvements at a rapid pace followed by a plateau where things
sort of stay the same, followed by survival of the fittest as the best things
survive and the others disappear.
This all reminds me of personal
From: Jeffery Smith
Whenever a new technology is introduced, there is an explosion of
interest followed by improvements at a rapid pace followed by a
plateau where things sort of stay the same, followed by survival of
the fittest as the best things survive and the others disappear.
This all
Yeah, it seemed to run in slow motion compared to today's standards, but that
was intentional. Do a search and replace and it would delete the original word
letter by letter, and then type the replacement word letter by letter. No
surprises for us guys who had been using a typewriter for 20
John, I opine that you're plain wrong here.
1. On Russian Penta Club, which I happen to be a member of, although I'm
in a process of leaving, the introduction of K-7 and more recently K-r
and K-5 produced a tremendous amount of correspondence.
2. It seems that Pentax Forums behaves similarly
/mild rant on\
There are many aspects of technology and finance in the trend during
the past decade that influence how exciting or boring a new camera
body from Pentax will be.
No manufacturer can introduce a model that is a show stopper, because
the rapid advances in digital electronics
I noticed something recently: there is not *nearly* as much discussion
of new Pentax cameras as there was just a few years ago here. I
remember threads going for weeks when new products were announced, but
that seems to have been reduced to days or even hours sometimes. It got
me wondering:
I can only speak for myself but I'm just not as interested in hardware
any more as I was last year. I've run low on inspiration, too so that
makes gear even less interesting. These past two days I spent many
hours completely taking apart a Canon film EOS to shoot a Canorama for
the PUG but I ended
On 2/10/10, eckinator, discombobulated, unleashed:
why worry about gear? I need ideas
Mark.
T shirt.
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:00:33
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Subject: It ain't like it used to be.
I noticed something recently: there is not *nearly* as much discussion
of new Pentax cameras as there was just a few years ago here. I
remember threads going
I think the lower level of conversation is due mainly to the more frequent
releases. A new Pentax camera used to come once every decade or so -- well a
bit more often than that but not by much. Now they come every 18 months or so.
Those who are waiting for a 24 x 36 sensor to converse, will be
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:00 -0700, John Celio n...@neovenator.com
wrote:
I noticed something recently: there is not *nearly* as much discussion
of new Pentax cameras as there was just a few years ago here. I
remember threads going for weeks when new products were announced, but
that seems to
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Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:00 -0700, John Celio n...@neovenator.com
wrote:
I noticed something recently: there is not *nearly* as much discussion
of new Pentax cameras as there was just a few
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:24 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
very true. I still look at all of those shots I took in India with the DS and
the FA 20-35 and don't think if only I had another camera.
I'm happy with the shots I get with my K10D. It's the shots I don't
get that bother me.
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On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:24 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
very true. I still look at all of those shots I took in India with the DS and
the FA 20-35
John, this touches on something that I've been thinking, and perhaps even
commented about.
On Oct 1, 2010, at 3:00 PM, John Celio wrote:
I noticed something recently: there is not *nearly* as much discussion
of new Pentax cameras as there was just a few years ago here. I
remember threads
From: John Celio
I noticed something recently: there is not *nearly* as much discussion
of new Pentax cameras as there was just a few years ago here. I
remember threads going for weeks when new products were announced, but
that seems to have been reduced to days or even hours sometimes. It got
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