Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu writes: Levente, I stand by the analogy of GPL's history and the more emotional undertones of the current discussion. Dismissing it won't make it go away. IMHO you are fully right. The fact still is if something is OS it forkable. Maye under certain

[Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports?

2010-08-31 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
I'm working slowly through Seaside, Aida, Pharo etc. I just wonder what you are using to make usable reports. (Be it in electronical form or printed). A related question, how does you interface e.g to let's say OpenOffice or maybe MS Office? Thanks for suggestions. Friedrich -- Q-Software

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks added to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2885 Stef On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:22 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: In Squeak(CogVM): 7-bit ByteString mediumDoc := ByteString new: 4096 streamContents: [ :stream | 4096 timesRepeat: [ stream nextPut: (Character value: 128

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Andreas Raab
Hi - Thanks everyone for the reasoned and civil responses. It is good to see that we can have a disagreement without getting overly personal. Unfortunately, it seems that I'm effectively offered a no-win alternative here; I do not see how any of the discussed alternatives would help me

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
so now we understand why Pharo design is crap :) Sorry I could resist It would be nice if we were a bit more adults. What is strange is that some people catalyze communication problems (me included) but we should live with that. I added your bench to the issue too. Stef On Aug 31, 2010,

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
don;t worry levente Nicolas was sensitive to the fact that you laugh because you consider that our process is close and that I have all the powers, which is false. We proposed in the past to Nicolas to help integrate changes but this is too boring in pharo so I do the dirty work and should

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
snip Yeah, that's why I added the 20 4KB docs / sec number. I really doubt the conversion will be a significant part of the processing time if what you send out is so small you are able to convert 800k messages per second... It depends on the machine/load/etc. I feel like we

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Andreas Raab
On 8/30/2010 1:40 AM, Johan Brichau wrote: I am not a lawyer but as far as I understand this topic, no license means nobody can use the code at all, which contradicts the fact of having it in a public repository (and you being perfectly happy of people using it). Can you please clarify the

Re: [Pharo-project] return character magic?

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
alchemist! Stef On Aug 31, 2010, at 1:20 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: Henrik, you must be a kind of sorcerer or maybe a devil! Nicolas 2010/8/31 Henrik Sperre Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no: On 30.08.2010 22:05, Nicolas Cellier wrote: 2010/8/30 Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 31.08.2010 08:47, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: snip Yeah, that's why I added the 20 4KB docs / sec number. I really doubt the conversion will be a significant part of the processing time if what you send out is so small you are able to convert 800k messages per second... It depends on

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Originally I thought to shut up but today is the last days of summer holidays and I'm a positive thinking so let us try to help My suggestions: - put MIT now - accept other submissions even open the repositories to people that are cool (lukas, philippe, sven) -

[Pharo-project] matchesRegex: multiline

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Ager
Hi, Is there a way to allow the regex '.' (dot) to match line break characters: 'hello regex' matchesRegex: '.*regex'true 'hello regex' matchesRegex: '.*regex'false Thanks Nick ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] matchesRegex: multiline

2010-08-31 Thread Lukas Renggli
In my image the second expression returns true as well. In fact the '.' (dot) matches anything but the null character (see RxMatcher#syntaxAny). Lukas 2010/8/31 Nick Ager nick.a...@gmail.com: Hi, Is there a way to allow the regex '.' (dot) to match line break characters: 'hello regex'

Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-31 Thread Geert Claes
Tudor Girba wrote: ... Some of the icons that you see are shipped with Seaside. The blueish bubble denotes an announcement and is already present in Pharo. ... I like it too. Regarding the icons, is there somewhere a description of all the icons used as some are more

Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool

2010-08-31 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, The simplest way to learn what the icon is saying is to just spawn the hierarchy view of that class, and the top most class that has the same icon is the one that the icon is supposed to be representing :). Cheers, Doru On 31 Aug 2010, at 10:05, Geert Claes wrote: Tudor Girba

[Pharo-project] problems with 12119 and 12120

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I was trying to clean a bit MethodReference and now I broke the merge in Monticello. Now I get all the method with revision changed So what do we do? The changes were to help the integration of the new recentMessages changes 1- rollback because I do not have the time to dive into this part of

Re: [Pharo-project] problems with 12119 and 12120

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
HI guys to lower my stress I removed from the update stream the items related to my MethodReference changes. so please update from 12016 Benjamin I will try to find what is the problem. Stef On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I was trying to clean a bit MethodReference

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Julian Fitzell
2010/8/31 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote: You must be kidding. The freedom to fork is a essential right of open source software: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10379280-16.html

[Pharo-project] About the icons

2010-08-31 Thread Fernando olivero
Regarding the icons, i would like to spend some time during ESUG ( or the spring) merging what i have in Gaucho. Based on the previous work in MenuIcons and ThemeIcons, i've created an icon family importer, where all the icon contents are stored as methods in the corresponding subclass of

Re: [Pharo-project] matchesRegex: multiline

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Ager
Is there a way to allow the regex '.' (dot) to match line break characters: 'hello regex' matchesRegex: '.*regex'true 'hello regex' matchesRegex: '.*regex'false In my image the second expression returns true as well. In fact the '.' (dot) matches anything but the null character

Re: [Pharo-project] matchesRegex: multiline

2010-08-31 Thread Lukas Renggli
Looks like your version is very old, because the change-log in RxParser class#b:whatsNewInThisRelease says: VERSION 1.1a (May 2001) 1. Support for keeping track of multiple subexpressions. 2. Dot (.) matches anything but NUL character, as it should per POSIX spec. 3. Some bug fixes.

Re: [Pharo-project] matchesRegex: multiline

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Ager
On 31 August 2010 10:19, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like your version is very old, because the change-log in RxParser class#b:whatsNewInThisRelease says: VERSION 1.1a (May 2001) 1. Support for keeping track of multiple subexpressions. 2. Dot (.) matches anything but

Re: [Pharo-project] About the icons

2010-08-31 Thread Henrik Johansen
For completeness when it comes to resources, I also have a port of the Assets package found in VisualWorks :) (Not performing very well without the once caching not working though) Cheers, Henry On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:38 35AM, Fernando olivero wrote: Regarding the icons, i would like to spend

Re: [Pharo-project] SerialPort - named ports on Linux

2010-08-31 Thread David T. Lewis
Yes. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:38:09PM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Are the VM changes you mention the ones that exist now in the Linux VM? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On

[Pharo-project] DNU MIMEType#forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault:

2010-08-31 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi, In Pharo-1.1-11411 these MIMEDocument guessTypeFromName: 'pharo.png'. MIMEDocument guessTypeFromExtension: 'png'. give a DNU for MIMEType#forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault: Sven ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU MIMEType#forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault:

2010-08-31 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 08/31/2010 01:58 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Hi, In Pharo-1.1-11411 these MIMEDocument guessTypeFromName: 'pharo.png'. MIMEDocument guessTypeFromExtension: 'png'. give a DNU for MIMEType#forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault: See also:

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
That's all I'll contribute to this discussion for the moment. We're working with intellectual property lawyers to prepare our ESUG talk on open source licensing; hopefully we'll be able to touch on some of this then and have some useful resources for the community as an output. Julian

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU MIMEType#forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault:

2010-08-31 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Philippe, Is it that obvioius ;-) ? Seriously though, I think this is quite easily fixable, but it is hard to get a grip on the implications outside Pharo(Core). Should I propose a patch ? I will first have a look at the 'contributing to pharo' webcast. Sven On 31 Aug 2010, at 14:42,

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU MIMEType#forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault:

2010-08-31 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Well, the issue says 'tagged FIXED an hour ago by StephaneDucasse'. This is a really unfriendly place: one does not have the time to report problems, let alone fix them! Where can I see the fix, my 1.2 is up to date and it fails there too, I see no slice named after the issue and no new

Re: [Pharo-project] problems with 12119 and 12120

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I'm cleaning the scriptloader and update list because there were intertwined fixes. I will redo them in order. We need a scriptable source. Stef On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: HI guys to lower my stress I removed from the update stream the items related to my

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU MIMEType#forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault:

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Well, the issue says 'tagged FIXED an hour ago by StephaneDucasse'. I put fixed because I thought that the file should be integrated. But now I see that marcus already integrated it. sorry for the confusion. Is it correct? I thought

Re: [Pharo-project] Inter-image communication

2010-08-31 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Sean, I added you as a developer to the rST project as well as UbiquiTalk. Noury On 30 août 2010, at 21:29, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: While some of the suggestions (AMQP, STOMP) were over my head, I'm in the process of getting UbiquiTalk to work and already have rST going. But, for my use

Re: [Pharo-project] UbiquiTalk running in Pharo 1.1

2010-08-31 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
cool. Noury On 30 août 2010, at 23:50, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: I haven't done much with it, and there are some deprecation warnings, but it's running. In the attached screenshot, the host 2 entry in the Detected Hosts window is the Squeak 4.1 image running on the right.

Re: [Pharo-project] About the icons

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
icon := IconMorph named: 'apply' size: 16 familyNamed: 'gaucho'. I think that it wouldn't be hard to integrate this into Pharo1.2, to have a standardized manner of requesting icons, managing the forms, and easily importing external icon-families. I would be willing to work on this

Re: [Pharo-project] problems with 12119 and 12120

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I'm sorry to have to revert changes like that but the changes I pushed where destroying packages saved on the server. So now I cannot realy check the changes because of the university cache. But please restart from 12016. Once everything is working I will publish a new image. Stef On

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU MIMEType#forURIReturnSingleMimeTypeOrDefault:

2010-08-31 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 31 Aug 2010, at 16:02, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Well, the issue says 'tagged FIXED an hour ago by StephaneDucasse'. I put fixed because I thought that the file should be integrated. But now I see that marcus already integrated

Re: [Pharo-project] Inter-image communication

2010-08-31 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Noury Bouraqadi-2 wrote: I added you as a developer to the rST project as well as UbiquiTalk. Thanks, I'll copy the files over. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Inter-image-communication-tp2320723p2401752.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive

[Pharo-project] ThemeSettings#menuSelectionColor: should return self

2010-08-31 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I was playing with the new Pro theme, and this bit me hard (crashed my image several times before I found out why): ThemeSettings#menuSelectionColor: should return self not a Color, just like all other setters, otherwise the cascades in UITheme class#newDefaultSettings won't work, although a

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Moose-dev] [seed] New project around the kernel

2010-08-31 Thread Yanni Chiu
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Begin forwarded message: *From: *Nicolas Paez nicop...@gmail.com Hi, I am working in the RMoD team (INRIA) in a project called /Seed/. One of the tasks of the project is to identify those mandatory classes that should be part of Pharo kernel. Would it be

Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports?

2010-08-31 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 08:13 +0200, Friedrich Dominicus escribió: I'm working slowly through Seaside, Aida, Pharo etc. I just wonder what you are using to make usable reports. (Be it in electronical form or printed). A related question, how does you interface e.g to let's say OpenOffice or

Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports? Lyx!

2010-08-31 Thread Ralph Boland
Tab-delimited text is very useful; I tend to see the world in terms of R (http://cran.r-project.org/) data frames, even when I do not plan to involve R. HTML makes a nice way to scroll through data. As for connecting with OpenOffice or (I can't say itg), I find LaTeX to be much nicer to

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Moose-dev] [seed] New project around the kernel

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I know that work now it was difficult to make it work. and for the moment we do not aim a minimal kernel just a kernel. After there are some points hwere starting to do something is important. We looked at GNU Chacharas Pavel Image we are

[Pharo-project] Deleted or renamed behaviors

2010-08-31 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi all, Is there a tool to observe the replacements of renamed or removed methods in Pharo? Because it happened to me several times, when loading a package in Pharo two or three months after I've released something, there are methods removed and I have to search the change comments everywhere

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12118

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
12118 - Redoing from 11217 - Issue 2880: remove WebClient from pharo. Thanks Andreas Raab. - Issue 2878: enhance MethodDictionaryTests. Thanks Guillermo Polito. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] Deleted or renamed behaviors

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
not directly but indeed we should be much more imaginative with our tools. Now I'm spending my time on not really funny or exciting actions so I do not have time to invent new stuff and this is bad. I'm trying to make sure that this situation will change but so far still crawling. This is why

[Pharo-project] call for green tests

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys We should improve. One way is to make sure that all the tests are green. It will help when integrating fixes. So I need your help. DateAndTimeTest (Sean can you have a look?) and a couple of others need our care. The tests of TimeStamp are red but we should remove this

Re: [Pharo-project] Deleted or renamed behaviors

2010-08-31 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Ok, thanks for the reply. I've created a repository in SqS for a tool supporting better tracking of change history http://www.squeaksource.com/ChangeTracker.html please do not hesitate to contact me to join this project. I'm planning to use the OB framework but any suggestions are welcomed.

[Pharo-project] squeaksource seems down...

2010-08-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
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Re: [Pharo-project] Distinguishing system and user objects

2010-08-31 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 17:29 -0300, Hernán Morales Durand escribió: Hi guys, Given any Pharo image and a (any) package or class category, how do you find if the package/class category belongs to the official image release? Thanks, In a pharo dev image there is a packages.txt that is

Re: [Pharo-project] Distinguishing system and user objects

2010-08-31 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I have been looking at the (horribly named) #timeStamp of methods; if my initials/name appear a substring, then it's a red flag that I might have written it, or at least want to be alerted that I might have unpackaged efforts. The following is a first attempt at releasing the code I use to

Re: [Pharo-project] squeaksource seems down...

2010-08-31 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
It's working now for me. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/squeaksource-seems-down-tp2402271p2402423.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book

2010-08-31 Thread Michael Roberts
Hi, it just so happens I wrote that section on the colab wiki 1) primarily to play around with the wiki engine 2) I was debugging Magma socket issues and I could not find decent cookbook / snippets to illustrate some simple examples and how to test it outside of Pharo itself. I just thought as

Re: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book

2010-08-31 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Michael Roberts-2 wrote: The example snip is only server side. If you follow the sections, you can see I used netcat as the client and illustrated some simple cmd line debugging techniques. the code above whilst it could of course contains bugs and not use the right API is consistent in

[Pharo-project] Memory problems on Windows

2010-08-31 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Hello, I am developing an application which processes and generates a large amount of data. In a recent attempt I encountered an Space is Low error. This is occurring in a Pharo 1.1 image using the latest Pharo and Cog VMs. I am opening the vm with the -memory: 1000 parameter. The below code

[Pharo-project] Serial ports on Linux

2010-08-31 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I have been able to do serial I/O on Windows, but not Linux. Running in a terminal to capture output yields Error while saving old state while trying to open just about any number or name I can think of (including 0 and /dev/ttyS0), but the open method gives no indication that there is a

Re: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book

2010-08-31 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
The deeper question is whether we want to document how things are, or they they *should be* - which is VERY much different from the eventless and timeout ridden design that we have now. It desperately needs to be redesigned. From:

Re: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book

2010-08-31 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 23:59 -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K escribió: The deeper question is whether we want to document how things are, or they they *should be* - which is VERY much different from the eventless and timeout ridden design that we have now. It desperately needs to be redesigned.

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-31 Thread Andreas Raab
Hi Sven - I had a quick look at the failing tests on Pharo and they seem mostly the result of bugs in Pharo's Network package. First, MimeDocumenturl needs to return an instance of Url not a string (check the senders; all users of it expect it to be a Url not a string) so if you change that

Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports?

2010-08-31 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu writes: Tab-delimited text is very useful; I tend to see the world in terms of R (http://cran.r-project.org/) data frames, even when I do not plan to involve R. HTML makes a nice way to scroll through data. As for connecting with OpenOffice or (I can't

Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports?

2010-08-31 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez miguel.c...@gmail.com writes: El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 08:13 +0200, Friedrich Dominicus escribió: I'm working slowly through Seaside, Aida, Pharo etc. I just wonder what you are using to make usable reports. (Be it in electronical form or printed). A related

[Pharo-project] Image file format ?

2010-08-31 Thread James Ladd
Hi All, I'm looking for information on the image file format, something that tells me the layout. A little like this: ++ ! version ! ++ ! count ! ++ etc. I can glean this information from the Squeak C sources but I'm wanting some additional information for

Re: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book

2010-08-31 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I am certainly willing to help with the work, and while I am by no means an expert on sockets, I have seen some good code. As we stand now, it is all but impossible to do things correctly; that will become clear by contrast, but only if people are willing to challenge their ideas. Timeouts

Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports?

2010-08-31 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
No, but Excel (or OpenOffice Calc) can do a nice job of slurping up tab-delimited text. If you give it a chance, LaTeX will ruin you for word processors. Who wants to worry about where stuff goes or in what font? Use markup to describe what you are writing, and let the computer fuss with the

Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports?

2010-08-31 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
If you must push into Excel (it's far easier to let it import from text), you will be using Windows, and therefore could perhaps create something with VBA. VBA for Dummies is a good book; get it with the CD and read what is on the latter (trust me). Know that VBA is designed with what Steve

Re: [Pharo-project] What are you using to write reports?

2010-08-31 Thread Yanni Chiu
Friedrich Dominicus wrote: Well I have thought about LaTex also. But you have to agree an Excel can not make much use of a LaTex document ;-( If you really want MS Excel, then you can easily reverse-engineer the XML format that MS Excel (optionally) uses. Not so long ago, on a paid job, I